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Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
they capture the bear pretty far back in the game... where they don't break charm.
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Welcome to the Zoo....PETS PETS!
Wired
Deagol
Bears are very hard to tame in pre-searing. Apparently they reappear late in the game, much easier to tame.
=HT=Ingram
BTW u can get a pretty good Warthog pre searing... In the northlands area... So team up early with some ranger and go get one. they are not hard to find... And they are very fast exp gainers and have a better then ave attack speed.
Phaedrus
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Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
I wonder what pet are in those special areas that is unlock by the favor of god... Anet did say there are special pet for it.
oh one more thing... pet increase in size as they lv up... my partner's wolf is like... bigger than he is now lol |
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=HT=Ingram
I'm pretty sure you can find those Lizard Pets over in Ettin's back area... near ventari's dell... It was either there or dry top. I dont remember for sure but that is where we found them during the betas... Not too hard to charm. but they are level 15 at capture... Can't beat that...
Tomo
Well, i have a level 7 moa bird with me now on my new account, hes about a 1000xp behind me ^^. I also would love to have the monty python style rabbit, lol. Maybe you have to kill it first, with the "holy hand grenade" lmao. Also, i was wondering, would a animal captured at level 1, then trained to level 15, beat the same monster if it was captured at level 15 ?
Also, to the rangers out there, do you have any points in beast mastery ? Or do you simply have the pet ? or do you have a small amount of points in it ?
Also, to the rangers out there, do you have any points in beast mastery ? Or do you simply have the pet ? or do you have a small amount of points in it ?
Pevil Lihatuh
i did have some in beast mastery; i've since put them all into expertise, wilderness survival and marksmanship
however in 3 levels time when i reach 20, im gonna redo all my attributes completely, and try out a beastmaster. See how it goes. If not I have a necro/ranger who's going down the minion route so could try it with him too
however in 3 levels time when i reach 20, im gonna redo all my attributes completely, and try out a beastmaster. See how it goes. If not I have a necro/ranger who's going down the minion route so could try it with him too
Valerius
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Pevil Lihatuh
im guessing not to be honest. although i did hear a rumour that if you heal your pet a lot, it will become more defensive (more hp etc) and if you dont heal it much it will become more agressive (less hp but attack faster) or something like that. So there could be a difference tehre.
But this has not been confirmed by anyone so don't take my word on that
But this has not been confirmed by anyone so don't take my word on that
Deagol
Buy Guild Wars and get a Tamagotci for free :-)
rerard
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Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh
lol the ultima online pet taming is the best :P
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As far as pet exp I think they get exp any time you get exp, my cat has been about half a level behind me pretty much since I got it. THe only skill I have that hasnt been mentioned is the feral lunge which is a DOT.
Pevil Lihatuh
lol i'd agree except i play a free shard which has gone waaaaaaay downhill. but never mind :P and lol at tamagotchi comment
pets are weird... mine started 3 or 4 levels below me... now its constantly around half a level behind me (im level 17 and 64%, the pet has just reached level 17)... as long as it keeps up and stays useful, i'm happy
pets are weird... mine started 3 or 4 levels below me... now its constantly around half a level behind me (im level 17 and 64%, the pet has just reached level 17)... as long as it keeps up and stays useful, i'm happy
Ignotus
I've tried taming bears in pre-searing Wizards Folley and Regent Valley, but they break the charm. Is it possible to tame a bear pre-searing?
Btw, has anyone ever tried to tame the bull that you kill for the mesmer quest outside pre-searing Ascalon?
Btw, has anyone ever tried to tame the bull that you kill for the mesmer quest outside pre-searing Ascalon?
Deagol
The reason pets are trailing you is that
1) They don't get exp from quests.
2) The exp you get for killing monsters depend on the difference in level between you and the monster. Thus, as long as you are higher level than your pet, the pet will get more exp than you. If you are much higher lvl than the pet, the pet will level very fast.
1) They don't get exp from quests.
2) The exp you get for killing monsters depend on the difference in level between you and the monster. Thus, as long as you are higher level than your pet, the pet will get more exp than you. If you are much higher lvl than the pet, the pet will level very fast.
Valerius
when pets die.... do they get a DP% ?
Pevil Lihatuh
i have no idea to be honest with you, although i haven't noticed my pet being any more 'useless' after i have to res it...
So69be
This is what it states in the Guide
Animal Lvl Dmg Armor
Strider 1 Prc 3-5 AC 3
Wolf 2 Sla 4-6 AC 6
Warthog 2 Blunt 4-6 AC 6
Moa Bird 3 Sla 5-8 AC 9
Melandrus Stalker 5 Sla 6-10 AC15
Snow Wolf 5 Sla 6-10 AC15
Lynx 5 Sla 6-10 AC15
Warthog 5 Blunt 6-10 AC15
Dune Lizard 5 Prc 6-10 AC15
Black Bear 5 Sla 6-10 AC15
Elder Black Widow 20 Prc 17-29 AC60
So clearly the black widow is better
Animal Lvl Dmg Armor
Strider 1 Prc 3-5 AC 3
Wolf 2 Sla 4-6 AC 6
Warthog 2 Blunt 4-6 AC 6
Moa Bird 3 Sla 5-8 AC 9
Melandrus Stalker 5 Sla 6-10 AC15
Snow Wolf 5 Sla 6-10 AC15
Lynx 5 Sla 6-10 AC15
Warthog 5 Blunt 6-10 AC15
Dune Lizard 5 Prc 6-10 AC15
Black Bear 5 Sla 6-10 AC15
Elder Black Widow 20 Prc 17-29 AC60
So clearly the black widow is better
kungfumonkey2
That doesnt seem right, you compared lvl 6 animals to lvl 20 animals. We would have to see all the animals at lvl 20 to know which is best. I think the guide is telling at what lvl the animals are when you catch them.
sojen
Heres an old picture I have on my lizard pet for those who wants to see a lizard. The lizard is standing on the right side. Sorry, don't have a nicer picture which shows the full body. Maybe another time when I remember to take a picture of it.
ImagoX
Wow... where do you find the Spider? It would be perfect for my Necro/Ranger...
And, am I reading the chart right? Are Snow Wolves basically indentical to the Stalker? Because I have my Stalker already levelled to 7 alongside me.
And, am I reading the chart right? Are Snow Wolves basically indentical to the Stalker? Because I have my Stalker already levelled to 7 alongside me.
ComMan
Warthogs are in post-searing too, just not until Magumma Jungle.
I don't think there's actually a difference between pet stats, just cosmetic.
I also don't think they do noticable damage (but my Beast Mastery is really low and I haven't messed with the pet skill tree). They're handy as free damage over time, but all too often I've had one die right when an enemy us rezzing. Your team will get rightfully pissed when you fail to get that Distracting Shot off because your pet died.
They're a cool idea, but they need to be made worthwhile. If they didn't penalize you so much for having a pet (risk of the skill disable, waste of a skill slot), then I'd be more tempted to use mine. As it stands, they're just a gimmick that Rangers had to have because every other RPG has them.
PS- there's an NPC with a pet spider, but I've never seen a player with one.
I don't think there's actually a difference between pet stats, just cosmetic.
I also don't think they do noticable damage (but my Beast Mastery is really low and I haven't messed with the pet skill tree). They're handy as free damage over time, but all too often I've had one die right when an enemy us rezzing. Your team will get rightfully pissed when you fail to get that Distracting Shot off because your pet died.
They're a cool idea, but they need to be made worthwhile. If they didn't penalize you so much for having a pet (risk of the skill disable, waste of a skill slot), then I'd be more tempted to use mine. As it stands, they're just a gimmick that Rangers had to have because every other RPG has them.
PS- there's an NPC with a pet spider, but I've never seen a player with one.
Rhedd
You really shouldn't judge a pet's effectiveness if you admit to having a "really low" Beast Mastery.
I'm lvl 15 with a 9 Beastmastery and a lvl 15 Moa. I carry a max damage bow and my noble chicken can deal nearly as much damage as I can over time. Add an attack that causes bleeding for almost 20 seconds and another that gives him a base damage reduction of 9, and his tanking ability is DEFINITELY worth the 'wasted' skill slot to have a pet.
He's the reason I've done many of my quests completely solo, without even henchmen.
Like any skill, though, you need to specialize in it a bit if you expect it to be really effective.
Pets are underrated. And they're cute, too. Mine eats worms. ^_^
I'm lvl 15 with a 9 Beastmastery and a lvl 15 Moa. I carry a max damage bow and my noble chicken can deal nearly as much damage as I can over time. Add an attack that causes bleeding for almost 20 seconds and another that gives him a base damage reduction of 9, and his tanking ability is DEFINITELY worth the 'wasted' skill slot to have a pet.
He's the reason I've done many of my quests completely solo, without even henchmen.
Like any skill, though, you need to specialize in it a bit if you expect it to be really effective.
Pets are underrated. And they're cute, too. Mine eats worms. ^_^
Morat
I think pets are very underrated. I often join PUGs where the rangers don't even have one with them, or they don't equip comfort animal so it dies 1 time and is useless. People! If you don't res your pet he will never level! Mine is now level 18 and he's awesome. Just a stalker but something very special - I get a free meatshie-err.. Warrior when I go into parties. Also I was in a PUG with 4 Rangers, each with a pet and the damage they put onto a target was just insane 
They are also fun in the PvP arenas. If you set 2-3 pets on one warrior, that warrior is STUCK still ready for the eles to cremate
Take your pet wherever you go and res him as soon as it is safe to do so. In the long run you'll be happy you did.
when I go into parties. Also I was in a PUG with 4 Rangers, each with a pet and the damage they put onto a target was just insane They are also fun in the PvP arenas. If you set 2-3 pets on one warrior, that warrior is STUCK still ready for the eles to cremate
Take your pet wherever you go and res him as soon as it is safe to do so. In the long run you'll be happy you did.
Korgy
You can find Black Widows deep in UW.
Weezer_Blue
spider... capturable in underworld. saw a cool screen of one.
s4nder
Black Widows can be tamed in the Underworld. According to a research in gwonline.net all pets have the exact same stats at the same levels. They tested different pets and found out all of them have an AL of 60 (at lvl 20) and attack approximately every 2.1 seconds. AL 60 means that they have the same armor as casters... it's like having a mesmer or an elementalist tank for you. Beast Mastery greatly enhances pet damage though, so if you want your pet to hurt someone, get BM up to 10-12.
I used a warthog until lvl it was level 20, then tamed a lizard and got it to 20 aswell. Pets are fun but in the end they don't really do anything for the 2-3 slots wasted on them. My level 20 lizard still died constantly, even with buffs and despite the fact that I always took most of the hits as a warrior. The damage they do is almost unnoticable aswell. So I remade my warrior and joined the W/Mo croud.
As much as I'd like to have a pet companion, once you meet the hydras you'll see what I mean. I couldn't use my skills most of the time because either the pet had just died or I had just ressed it. In conclusion, as of now, pets aren't worth it. What I'd like to see is pets using skills that drain their OWN damn energy. Why do I have to waste MY energy so the PET can bleed someone?! Pets need to be rethought and improved or fewer and fewer people will ever use them.
I used a warthog until lvl it was level 20, then tamed a lizard and got it to 20 aswell. Pets are fun but in the end they don't really do anything for the 2-3 slots wasted on them. My level 20 lizard still died constantly, even with buffs and despite the fact that I always took most of the hits as a warrior. The damage they do is almost unnoticable aswell. So I remade my warrior and joined the W/Mo croud.
As much as I'd like to have a pet companion, once you meet the hydras you'll see what I mean. I couldn't use my skills most of the time because either the pet had just died or I had just ressed it. In conclusion, as of now, pets aren't worth it. What I'd like to see is pets using skills that drain their OWN damn energy. Why do I have to waste MY energy so the PET can bleed someone?! Pets need to be rethought and improved or fewer and fewer people will ever use them.
Willy Rockwell
my wolf Snowball takes -70 damage with each bite and I just bought a major Beast Mastery rune. Can't wait to see how that affects his performance.
A good pet is at least equal to an extra henchman.
A good pet is at least equal to an extra henchman.
womble
Valerius:
I've seen it said they do. Hard to tell, though, when there's no data displayed as to damage dished or sustained...
S4nder:
? I got to the Hydras last night, and I (E/R 12, firestorm, eruption, fireball, with Firemagic 9, Beast Mastery 3) and my Stalker (Lv11) took out a hydra without me having to cast any Flares at all. Burma was taking great chunks out of the beastie's life monitor.
There's a Boss in Traveller's Vale on a Mammoth... the entire party had wiped except for one, and Burma was beating the Boss on her own (I got to watch, lying dead) before the sole party member got back to help her...
Pets aren't necessarily useless, but I imagine it's possible that there's a way of them developing so they don't work so well. Since there's no direct feedback on what they do, it's really hard to tell what the truth is.
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There's a Boss in Traveller's Vale on a Mammoth... the entire party had wiped except for one, and Burma was beating the Boss on her own (I got to watch, lying dead) before the sole party member got back to help her...
Pets aren't necessarily useless, but I imagine it's possible that there's a way of them developing so they don't work so well. Since there's no direct feedback on what they do, it's really hard to tell what the truth is.
Silent
After recently releasing my lvl 20 stalker into the care of Jarrel I picked up a snow wolf called Fang. The problem I've noticed is whenever I fight low level enemys such as the stone summit etc, I don't receive any XP does this mean that Fang is also receiving 0 XP because it's incredibly hard to keep him alive in the crystal desert.
Phoenix Denfer
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Like any skill, though, you need to specialize in it a bit if you expect it to be really effective.
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I was first very upset about this "change since beta" but then I started to put points into beast mastery and find "attacks" to use. The one I'm using now, my cat can heal himself, so it takes some of the burden off of me to stop to heal him in battle.
When I started paying attention to my pet and devising ways to use him as part of my defence instead of a kinda nice tag along, I was amazed how effective they can be. My last mission with the guild I would use him to help pull warriors away from our monk and elementist or to deal damage in a group that I was using chaos storm on.
I also believe they do level faster as they become more effective in combat. I'm a lvl 12 ranger and he is a lvl 11 now. The same is true of my me/r and her pet.
Truly, if you really don't wish to specialize in beast mastery, you are much better off not equipping the pet at all, as a low level pet with no attacks becomes more a burden then a help. Probably again a reason why so many do abandon them later in the higher level areas.
Mr. Matt
I've had many pets. Stalker (obviously), Strider, Wolf... you name it. Except for the rare ones. I personally prefer the Strider best. Not for any practical reason, but just because he looks cool and makes a really funny noise when attacking. Plus there's no end to the humour of seeing a goofy-looking retarded dodo taking down a brutish warrior beast like a Charr with little to no difficulty 
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I'm just irritated that you can get so attached to the little critters. I keep trying to give away ol' Squawkie to a tamer so that I can charm a different animal to try for a while, but I just can't bring myself to do it. And whenever he dies in battle, I get angry and the monster that did it and make it my life's mission to kill it... weird, I think, to get so attached to something which doesn't exist.
I'm just irritated that you can get so attached to the little critters. I keep trying to give away ol' Squawkie to a tamer so that I can charm a different animal to try for a while, but I just can't bring myself to do it. And whenever he dies in battle, I get angry and the monster that did it and make it my life's mission to kill it... weird, I think, to get so attached to something which doesn't exist.
Phoenix Denfer
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I'm just irritated that you can get so attached to the little critters. I keep trying to give away ol' Squawkie to a tamer so that I can charm a different animal to try for a while, but I just can't bring myself to do it. And whenever he dies in battle, I get angry and the monster that did it and make it my life's mission to kill it... weird, I think, to get so attached to something which doesn't exist.
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I was thinking the exact same thing. I was planning on getting rid of my stalker as soon as I could get a snow wolf or bear, but now I'm getting attached.
My Ranger will prolly get a wolf or a bear, my mesmer will prolly keep her cat, and yes, the moa rocks. LOL That was my first pet in beta, and I still think nothing is visually funnier to watch. Well, maybe the spider, if I ever get to see one.
Axelia
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when pets die.... do they get a DP% ?
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Axelia
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so can someone plz answer my question....
do pets get experience from rewards after completing a quest? cause... if so... i want to get a pet now... so i can get it the exp from quests... but if not... then i ll wait a lil' longer |
Rhedd
Yep, you sure do get attached to the little guys. Giving Redfeather away is completely unthinkable. Of course, I think a Moa is cooler than a wolf, anyway. ^-^
No, pets don't get a DP.
Pets seem to level up very quickly until they catch up to you. Since catching up with me, mine's consistently stayed about a quarter of a level behind me.
I know I've said this already, but It bears being illustrated with an example: No warrior would expect to do anything decent with a hammer if he had a hammer skill of 2 and zero hammer skills on his bar, yet that's what people seem to expect out of pets. Beastmastery is an area of expertise, just like anything else, it's useful if used correctly.
When the time came, I did the Althea's Ashes quest solo. No other players, NO henchmen. Just me and a giant chicken. I almost felt he could've done it without me. ^-^
Another funny anectdote; Yesterday we had a FIFTEEN MINUTE battle (no lie, 15 min!) with a self-healing boss. Again, just me and Redwing. He tanked, I did everything I could. It was hilarious, how long it went on, but eventually we took it down. Again, if he hadn't been with me, my only option would've been running.
No, pets don't get a DP.
Pets seem to level up very quickly until they catch up to you. Since catching up with me, mine's consistently stayed about a quarter of a level behind me.
I know I've said this already, but It bears being illustrated with an example: No warrior would expect to do anything decent with a hammer if he had a hammer skill of 2 and zero hammer skills on his bar, yet that's what people seem to expect out of pets. Beastmastery is an area of expertise, just like anything else, it's useful if used correctly.
When the time came, I did the Althea's Ashes quest solo. No other players, NO henchmen. Just me and a giant chicken. I almost felt he could've done it without me. ^-^
Another funny anectdote; Yesterday we had a FIFTEEN MINUTE battle (no lie, 15 min!) with a self-healing boss. Again, just me and Redwing. He tanked, I did everything I could. It was hilarious, how long it went on, but eventually we took it down. Again, if he hadn't been with me, my only option would've been running.
WRATHCHILD
i have the black widow. it poped out of a chest in uw. it starts level 20 and is just all around bad ass. i have killed unskilled players with nothing but pet skills. There not to easy to get but worth the time to get.
pet knockdown is evil and no one ever sees it coming.
pet knockdown is evil and no one ever sees it coming.
Silmor
Until ArenaNet gets around to fixing it, Feral Lunge is a very ineffective DoT since it will only cause 3 seconds of bleeding right now regardless of Beast Mastery level, even though the skill description advertises a much longer duration for higher attribute level.
doomhorn
My bear
Does anyone know what Brutal Mauling does? Haven't figured out the use of it other than taking forever to cast.
Does anyone know what Brutal Mauling does? Haven't figured out the use of it other than taking forever to cast.
Rhedd
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Until ArenaNet gets around to fixing it, Feral Lunge is a very ineffective DoT since it will only cause 3 seconds of bleeding right now regardless of Beast Mastery level, even though the skill description advertises a much longer duration for higher attribute level.
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The funny thing is, it worked just fine for me before this last update, in which they specifically said they'd "fixed a problem" with it.
Makes me really wonder what the problem WAS. Was it working too well or something? Government standards on the minimum number of bugs in a game that GW wasn't meeting? What? ^-^
I sent a bug report a while ago. Hope you have too.
MoldyRiceFrenzy
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spiders can't be tamed; if you try it then all you get is the message "That is not an animal"
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