I'm a lvl 14 R/W and my Stalker Temple is lvl 14 as well. I've had the same problem as a couple of you now I'm finally to areas post-sear where I can tame new animals, and now that I'm ready to dump her on a Tamer, I find myself attached to her. Stupid cat. Plus, if I tamed a snow wolf it'd start at 5. I'm sure that it does level up faster until it catches up to me, but how long will I have to run around so that he can level up before I can get back to the game proper?
Ah well, I suppose it doesn't matter too much, as I need to run around solo for a while anyway and get some gold. Good chance to level up pet back in Old Ascalon area if I choose to get a new one.
I'm able to solo with Temple quite well and always have been. It seems to me people are trying to look at a pet as a second character when they decide to dump it as useless. I see it as being a second weapon. Between my bow and my Stalker, I do good damage. Also, just as I have skills tied into my bow, so too do I have skills to make my stalker a more effective weapon. I love being a Ranger.
Welcome to the Zoo....PETS PETS!
Ardus Shadowmane
Phoenix Denfer
After reading about "Oink" here I just had to see for myself what it would be like to have a warthog.
Let me say, wtihout a doubt, this pet ranks up there huge on the cuteness scale. I just love how "Pork Chop" head butts the enemy.
Here's my pre searing elementist at Piken Square with her new little friend.
edited to add: I'm not following about feral lunge. It appears to be working for me as I see the cat draw blood much more prominantly after the last update. What clues were you seeing that indicated it was a problem? *plesae don't read that as anything but a geniune inquirey as I would like to understand better how to determine if a spell/attack is working the way it should.* Thank you in advance - Phoenix
Let me say, wtihout a doubt, this pet ranks up there huge on the cuteness scale. I just love how "Pork Chop" head butts the enemy.
Here's my pre searing elementist at Piken Square with her new little friend.
edited to add: I'm not following about feral lunge. It appears to be working for me as I see the cat draw blood much more prominantly after the last update. What clues were you seeing that indicated it was a problem? *plesae don't read that as anything but a geniune inquirey as I would like to understand better how to determine if a spell/attack is working the way it should.* Thank you in advance - Phoenix
Rhedd
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edited to add: I'm not following about feral lunge. It appears to be working for me as I see the cat draw blood much more prominantly after the last update. What clues were you seeing that indicated it was a problem? *plesae don't read that as anything but a geniune inquirey as I would like to understand better how to determine if a spell/attack is working the way it should.* Thank you in advance - Phoenix
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Your question didn't seem like anything other than a question. I don't know why anyone would take it any other way. ^-^
According to the skill description, Feral Lunge, at my level (9 Beastmastery) should make an opponent bleed (slowly lose life, with a pink life bar) for 16 seconds.
I never actually timed it before the lastest update, but I'd say it probably did just that.
The very first time I logged in after the update, I noticed that monsters were ceasing to bleed (life bar went back to red, no slow life degen) after a VERY short time, and I was wondering what they were doing to cancel it all of a sudden.
Well, experimentation has shown that they aren't doing anything, of course. (I don't even know if there is a skill to cancel bleeding.)
The bleeding effect now lasts exactly 3 seconds, regardless of your level. Three seconds just happens to be the minimum time for the spell, so everyone is getting a bleeding effect as if they had a zero in Beastmastery.
As I said, it seemed to work fine before they "fixed" it.
Does anyone have any idea what the percieved problem with it was before the update? Has anyone had a problem in the past? I'd love to know what they thought they were doing. ^-^
And Phoenix, try it out and count how long it lasts. Just watch how long the target's life bar stays pink and drops. Do a number of tests to make sure. If it's lasting longer than 3 seconds for you, PLEASE let us know.
Darkest Dawn
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Granted, early in the game, say as far as Kryta, it isn't as big a liability, but since entering Kryta, it just wasn't worth it to me. I understand some want to be a beast master, and buff out their pet, but I think that later in the game it is better to buff yourself out and go with other peeps on the difficult missions. If you're just farming, or want to solo, np. However if you are in a group of humans on a mission, I don't want my pet's death to cause me to become ineffective long enough to get my team killed. Therefore I'm at an impasse.
Ardus Shadowmane
I've never found my pet dying to be a big problem. The only time Temple has dropped dead on me is if she got completely mobbed and beat to death before I could heal her. Right now I have four BM skills, two WS and two Marksmanship skills in my tree, and I find myself doing a great job. I (atm) use Feral Lunge, Charm (as I have to, which is the one thing that bugs me. Once I've tamed the pet, I don't see why I have to keep charm in my bar to keep my pet...), Comfort Animal, and the burst of speed one the name of which currently escapes me. Skills I use for myself are Penetrating Shot, Favorable Wind, Ignite Arrows and Pindown. I seem to hold my own in a group, not saying I'm the be-all end-all or anything, but I'm appreciated. Temple on her own did plenty to hold her own in my eyes, and to those I grouped with. If they would ever fix the bleed for Feral Lunge that they broke with the last update, my pet would do even more damage.
Ardus Shadowmane
Last night after I had read this thread and went home, I grouped for a bit with my cousin, helped him push through into Kryta. Then, just before going to bed, I took a deep breath, transported to Ascalon, closed my eyes, and gave Temple to Jarrel the Tamer. *le trickle of a single tear* She was a great pet, and a strong companion and will be missed.
Then I jumped back to the Shiverpeaks and netted myself a Snow Wolf. Haven't started working with him yet, was too tired, I'll do that tonight. I'll let you all know if my lingering sadness over the loss of my first pet is a worthy price to pay to switch pets. LOL.
I love being a Ranger.
Then I jumped back to the Shiverpeaks and netted myself a Snow Wolf. Haven't started working with him yet, was too tired, I'll do that tonight. I'll let you all know if my lingering sadness over the loss of my first pet is a worthy price to pay to switch pets. LOL.
I love being a Ranger.
Rhedd
Ardus, congratulations and condolences on your new pet. Just remember, those guys promise that Temple will retire to a nice, new home where she'll be fed every day WITHOUT having to fight ettins. ^-^
Your setup sounds about like mine. I really see no reason to use any of my secondary class skills. Rangers are plenty versitile on their own.
And a big, fat, YAY for the folks at Arena Net! Feral Lunge is now fixed, and it didn't take a month for them to do it! Beastmasters rejoice.
Your setup sounds about like mine. I really see no reason to use any of my secondary class skills. Rangers are plenty versitile on their own.
And a big, fat, YAY for the folks at Arena Net! Feral Lunge is now fixed, and it didn't take a month for them to do it! Beastmasters rejoice.
Ardus Shadowmane
Thanks, Rhedd, I greatly appreciate it. We need to start a I-traded-my-pet in support group or something. LOL
Yeah, I noticed not long after posting that message that they updated to fix feral lunge. Have you tried it and verified it yet, or going off of the description of the update? I haven't had a chance to yet, just got home. My plan after finishing in the forum is to do just that.
I agree, Rangers are versatile on their own. I've enjoyed playing one thus far.
Yeah, I noticed not long after posting that message that they updated to fix feral lunge. Have you tried it and verified it yet, or going off of the description of the update? I haven't had a chance to yet, just got home. My plan after finishing in the forum is to do just that.
I agree, Rangers are versatile on their own. I've enjoyed playing one thus far.
Phoenix Denfer
Ardus, let us know how the wolf is working out. One of my guildmates and I have a matched set of Rangers you might say. We made them originally back during the first WPE, and they are still our favorite characters to role play as.
We have Stalkers right now, but I think we plan to trade for Bear when we start questing in the Shiverpeaks. I'm trying not to get attached to that cat, but it does get very hard when you put the effort into training. I agree the pets don't die nearly as often as they did unless they get seriously mobbed.
I tried to test feral lunge today, but the npc's were too low a level evidently and despite trying to not wipe them out too soon and let the cat deal with it, I just didn't see anything happen on the life bar. Makes me think it was deactivated briefly until they applied the patch.
I'll have to check again tomorrow now that the patch is done. Rhedd's comments are reassuring. ;-)
We have Stalkers right now, but I think we plan to trade for Bear when we start questing in the Shiverpeaks. I'm trying not to get attached to that cat, but it does get very hard when you put the effort into training. I agree the pets don't die nearly as often as they did unless they get seriously mobbed.
I tried to test feral lunge today, but the npc's were too low a level evidently and despite trying to not wipe them out too soon and let the cat deal with it, I just didn't see anything happen on the life bar. Makes me think it was deactivated briefly until they applied the patch.
I'll have to check again tomorrow now that the patch is done. Rhedd's comments are reassuring. ;-)
Ardus Shadowmane
I'll keep you guys updated. I keep hearing conflicting views on whether or not different pets have different statistics. *le shug*
I tested feral lunge. While I didn't count to the 16 seconds it says enemies bleed for, it definitely worked for longer than before the patch. It seems to be working just fine and dandy!
I tested feral lunge. While I didn't count to the 16 seconds it says enemies bleed for, it definitely worked for longer than before the patch. It seems to be working just fine and dandy!
Mr. Matt
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Your setup sounds about like mine. I really see no reason to use any of my secondary class skills. Rangers are plenty versitile on their own.
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It is no less funny seeing a Strider take down trolls than it is seeing it take down Charr
Nocere Moriari
can u get the rabbit??????
Mr. Matt
Unfortunately not. I had visions of a rabbit like the one in Monty Python, but alas, 'tis not meant to be...
Rhedd
You're welcome, Ardus. Unfortunately, I couldn't join your support group, because I'll live and die without giving up Redwing for adoption. ^-^ I need help. heheh
Don't you hate that Old Ascalon quest where you'd have to give up your pet to complete it? I skipped it, of course. Luckily, I didn't need the skills anyway.
I'm sure this info is a little late, now, but yes, I've verified the Feral Lunge working. Mine lasts 18 seconds now, and I admit to not actually counting it all the way to 18, because nothing has lasted that long, but yeah, I'd say its working. Things bleed until they die. That's all I care about!
Heck with the rabbit, I want to tame a frog in Lion's Arch. heheh
I THINK, as far as I can find out, the only difference between pets is the TYPE of damage they do. Other than that, they're equal at an equal level. No way to verify it, but that's what I believe to be true.
Don't you hate that Old Ascalon quest where you'd have to give up your pet to complete it? I skipped it, of course. Luckily, I didn't need the skills anyway.
I'm sure this info is a little late, now, but yes, I've verified the Feral Lunge working. Mine lasts 18 seconds now, and I admit to not actually counting it all the way to 18, because nothing has lasted that long, but yeah, I'd say its working. Things bleed until they die. That's all I care about!
Heck with the rabbit, I want to tame a frog in Lion's Arch. heheh
I THINK, as far as I can find out, the only difference between pets is the TYPE of damage they do. Other than that, they're equal at an equal level. No way to verify it, but that's what I believe to be true.
Silmor
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Ardus Shadowmane
Rhedd--That quest where you have to give up your pet did have me worried. I finally ended up biting the bullet and decided to complete it. And do you know what happened? I got the XP and skills (Hunter's Shot is awesome), but for some reason Master Ranger Nente didn't actually take my pet from me. It was quite odd. It's a moot point now that I've traded her in anyway, but oh well.
I'm finding that my new pet is levelling up fairly quickly as he started out 1/3 of my level. I guess that makes sense. It makes me feel better about deciding to try another animal. Right now I'm running around getting him levelled up. I don't want to continue with missions until he's competent enough to hold his own.
I'm finding that my new pet is levelling up fairly quickly as he started out 1/3 of my level. I guess that makes sense. It makes me feel better about deciding to try another animal. Right now I'm running around getting him levelled up. I don't want to continue with missions until he's competent enough to hold his own.
DrSLUGFly
I've seen non-hostile spiders in the Maguuma Jungle (or near there). Has anyone tried to charm Joe? That would be awesome! Also, I don't get the talk of "secret location" for the warthog... I saw dozens of them in pre-sear, mostly near the abby.
When I go post-sear in a few days I'm getting a couple guildies to rush me to the Crystal Desert (avoiding exp, looting and quests along the way) so I can get a lizard who will level alongside me when I go back and do the quests. I don't want to be level 20 with a level 5 lizard fighting level 24+ mobs.
When I go post-sear in a few days I'm getting a couple guildies to rush me to the Crystal Desert (avoiding exp, looting and quests along the way) so I can get a lizard who will level alongside me when I go back and do the quests. I don't want to be level 20 with a level 5 lizard fighting level 24+ mobs.
Darkest Dawn
BTW, I have a snow wolf as one of my pets. I really enjoy it. Let us know how you fare!
It was tough to turn in a level 13 stalker for a level 5 snow wolf, but now my new pet is up to level 12!
It was tough to turn in a level 13 stalker for a level 5 snow wolf, but now my new pet is up to level 12!
Draven Nasir
If anyone needs assistance on getting a Black bear - I can assist and know where to get them.
Ardus Shadowmane
Darkest Dawn--Yeah, that was the level my stalker was at when I turned it in. I didn't get much chance to train it last night, only got it up to level 8, but I'll continue tonight probably.
Draven--Where do you get bears? That's my long-term goal, but I haven't seen any post-sear. I'm just at Lion's Arch at the moment, so I guessed that I'm just not far enough along yet.
Draven--Where do you get bears? That's my long-term goal, but I haven't seen any post-sear. I'm just at Lion's Arch at the moment, so I guessed that I'm just not far enough along yet.
EvilWizard
Sorry if post is repetitive as I didnt read through... See attachment
Phoenix Denfer
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If anyone needs assistance on getting a Black bear - I can assist and know where to get them.
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Yes please share ;-) We hope to make shiverpeaks this weekend with the coop missions...can you get to the southern end on foot or did they make them more common throughout the mountains?
Thank you in advance.
Mr. Matt
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Also, I don't get the talk of "secret location" for the warthog... I saw dozens of them in pre-sear, mostly near the abby.
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Draven Nasir
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Darkest Dawn--Yeah, that was the level my stalker was at when I turned it in. I didn't get much chance to train it last night, only got it up to level 8, but I'll continue tonight probably.
Draven--Where do you get bears? That's my long-term goal, but I haven't seen any post-sear. I'm just at Lion's Arch at the moment, so I guessed that I'm just not far enough along yet. |
Draven Nasir
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Yes please share ;-) We hope to make shiverpeaks this weekend with the coop missions...can you get to the southern end on foot or did they make them more common throughout the mountains?
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Eclectic
Anything special we need to know about taming the bear out there?
Ogg
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Anything special we need to know about taming the bear out there?
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Pets are strange creatures in a sense that they gain exp even when they are dead. I've leveled few pets up, and usually when I'm doing that, I skip comfort animal all together, and let it die in first fight. I've had pet gain a level from halfway across a zone several times.
Doing some quick calculations from those stats shown for pets, it seems each and every pet is the same at lvl 20, at least al and damage. There's two things which make bears and spiders bit better than rest of pets, namely their special attacks, which happen from time to time. Bears have Brutal Mauling, which seems to do about same amount of damage as regular attack, maybe bit more, and spiders occasionally poison their foes.
At the moment, I'm happy with my lvl 20 bear, although I havent had it with me on missions in a long time, as it tends to die extremely fast after certain point in the game. And can't even think of bringing it into Underworld of FoW.
Rayawni
I too had a warthog "Piglet" but I decided to delete my char so I could have a space if need be to make a new one.
Does anyone who has spiders have any screenies? I would like to see what those look like.
Does anyone who has spiders have any screenies? I would like to see what those look like.
Eclectic
Well, I did it last night. Turned in my pet and went to Beacon's Perch where I got level 10 henchmen (and no pet!) to take on the level 24s of Lornar's. Surprisingly we managed to kill the early ones and move on, but before I could find the bear we got wiped. I ended up using sprint and leaving my henchmen as fodder to be chewed up and finally got to the bear, though not before getting wurm'd just before charming him the first time.
So are you sure they level up when they're dead? That would be a big help not having to keep res'ing him and then having him die in the middle of a fight and resetting my bar. I'd been wondering how to level him back up and thought I'd have to go solo level 8s or something.
So are you sure they level up when they're dead? That would be a big help not having to keep res'ing him and then having him die in the middle of a fight and resetting my bar. I'd been wondering how to level him back up and thought I'd have to go solo level 8s or something.
Algren Cole
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Pre searing.. I can confirm this because i captured the normal wolf..
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ya I captured a normal wolf in pre-sear. I still have him...he's my buddy.
he's a lvl 14...I'm on 13...my pet is better at Guild Wars than I am
Ginko
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&page=1&pp=25
This is a complte list of pets and where to find them.
--Ginko
This is a complte list of pets and where to find them.
--Ginko
Gedscho
about the warthogs:
there is a special trick if you want to get it out of the super secret(pre sear) location that is NOT north of the wall: when leaving town, think of a name. If it likes the name, it will be there, if not, it will be not.
Thats why my monks hog is called Buddha.
there is a special trick if you want to get it out of the super secret(pre sear) location that is NOT north of the wall: when leaving town, think of a name. If it likes the name, it will be there, if not, it will be not.
Thats why my monks hog is called Buddha.