kvndoom
3/1 Vampiric Axe of Enchanting, of course. The serious agriculturalist would settle for no less.carnivore
Tainted Poon
kvndoom
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why did you tell everyone your build?
Because this "game based on skill" is actually a "game based on money." So here are the skills to make money. I have a little bit of change saved up, but I'm not arrogant about it, and if anyone else wants to work towards their retirement fund before further "adjustments" are made, so be it.
pbspectre
i've considered doing this...what armor/runes/shield are you using?
pagansaint
Looks to be a set of Plate with a knights piece, it appears he only has 20 energy.
And he is probably using some damage reducing shield with +hp st3ady
thanks! ill go try it out
Experiment_Jon
Wow...How'd you get your inventory to look like that? I hate having to switch between backpack-beltpouch-bag-bag... Thats awesome...I gotta go figure out how to do that now.
Jczech
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Wow...How'd you get your inventory to look like that? I hate having to switch between backpack-beltpouch-bag-bag... Thats awesome...I gotta go figure out how to do that now.
F9.
Hydra farming is overrated. Anyone with even the smallest amount of skill could do it 
kvndoom
Sorry you can't see Etterwyn too well, her being on fire and all.
Armor is Wyvern from head to legs, and Knight's boots. Wyvern is 85 AL against elemental, so I went with that over my usual Gladiator's set, since I don't need a lot of energy anyway. Shield is Thorgall's, by far the cheapest of the Green shields, req 9 strength, -2 damage enchanted.
FrogDevourer
Killing only with cyclone axe (10 axe / 12 str) and Shield of Judgmenent (9 smiting)? How much time does it take to kill a group of hydrae?
kvndoom
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Killing only with cyclone axe (10 axe / 12 str) and Shield of Judgmenent (9 smiting)? How much time does it take to kill a group of hydrae?
Longer than pre- 11/10, that's for sure. Probably a little over a minute per group now, vice 30-40 seconds per group that it was before last week. The Vamp mod helps, since it takes away 3 health from them per hit. The size of the group doesn't really matter, since Cyclone and Shield both distribute the love somewhat evenly. Shield of Judgement is your real money maker, which is why I need a new axe to put more points in Smiting. At Smiting 12, it was 41 damage per attack for 18 seconds, 22 with a 20% enchant mod. You'd be surprised just how much damage that could do, especially since Hydrae are immune to knockdown.
Now that I have a spare set of armor, I'm gonna buy a set of Superior Runes and make a 105/55hp warrior for the hell of it and go hunting. Results TBA. xb0vv
can i ask what nmber 6,7 and 8 skills are.
Alone)
I think that skill 7 is shields up? Maybe? I would think about using something more like... oh wait. Dolyak's Signet is up there.
Skill 6 should be Dolyak Signet. Ajantis
6 = Dolyak Signet
7 = Watch Yourself! 8 = Shield of Judgement [E]
Farin
Doylak Signet, Watch Yourself! and Shield of Judgment in that order.
Loviatar it took 11 seconds for these bad boys eles do it also
fullmental
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Loviatar
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dragons gullet ?
where else do they swarm like flies
note that i was emboldened to try to beat my best of 5 at once and got swarmed by 7 with the predictable results. i hope they enjoyed dinner (or a light snack) wat my name is
for famring hydras i jsut use my solo build
it can be used for necro ele mesmer or nehting with 4 energy regen full amror with 5 supieors on it no helath regen -50 grim cesta weapon of ur choice you use healing breeze blank blank protection spirt essence bond balthazars spirt mending watchful spirt the blanks are for the damage skills ur gonna use if ur ele i perfer inferno and flame burst necro i say spiteful spirt works great cuz it doenst make them run off cuz its not aoe but seems like it and mesmer i got no clue. the key is 2 not forget 2 cast protection spirt cuz then they only do 5 damage if u got 55 health. I can farm like 12 hydras at a time no problem. have max of ur stats on ur damage skills 10 protection 9 healing and then the superiors u decide 2 use. Have fun trying it out
dont feel no pain
man there are so many farmable builds out there like i use a earth build to farm hydra's and sand drakes and i have taken 10+ hydra in less than a minite u just got to focus on 1 attribute and forget the monk parts ( i only have orisen of healing)(and mending + balthzars spirit)
megaforcetkd
what is skill number 1? sry for being such a noob :P
yangster
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what is skill number 1? sry for being such a noob :P
Balthazar spirit.
xb0vv
I tried this build out and died in the first 5 seconds, could you explian to me how this works, and maybe produce steps on which spells to cast first...
The griffon build was easy to catch up on but htis is another story for me..
kvndoom
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I tried this build out and died in the first 5 seconds, could you explian to me how this works, and maybe produce steps on which spells to cast first... The griffon build was easy to catch up on but htis is another story for me.. Oops! Fell asleep on the couch before I finished typing, sorry. You've gotta hit Dolyak Sig once you've gotten the Hydras aggroed. The armor + staying on your feet is critical for surviving. Keep Dolyak and Watch Yourself active at all times while fighting, paying close attention to the 2 seconds of downtime for DS. That small window can get you killed if you're not careful. Cast Vigorous Spirit when necessary, and cast Shield of Judgement when you get as many enemies in melee range as possible. Usually you won't be able to get more than 4 at a time in melee range because of their wide bodies (damn I miss AoE), but SoJ won't do you a lick of good if they're not pecking at you. You'll appreciate its efficiency whenyou see it in action.
Manfred
My w/e sword-using griffon farmer farms pretty much as well as anything, but I guess i'll switch tactics after i finish capping the last 3 ele elites.
Kyle
I tried to farm hydras. Dont know if it was my luck. got tired of doing griffons and all that so i went out the other way. Took on a decent group of hydras. No problem fighting them. Just they dropped crap or nothing f or me. I took at least 5 and got maybe 2 pickups. Just my bad luck or is it usualy better than that
kvndoom
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I tried to farm hydras. Dont know if it was my luck. got tired of doing griffons and all that so i went out the other way. Took on a decent group of hydras. No problem fighting them. Just they dropped crap or nothing f or me. I took at least 5 and got maybe 2 pickups. Just my bad luck or is it usualy better than that
My builds are for zone-clearing. I'm not much for the lather-rinse-repeat Griffon run. If you notice my screenshot, I had trophies from devourers, Minotaurs, Sand Elementals, Sand Drakes, and was even starting to take on Scarabs more than I used to. I like(d) to go out in a zone and wax just about everything from one end to the other. So when I refer to good drops, it's from my perspective of killing alll the 30+ Hydras in Skyward Reach before re-zoning. You'll probably get more goodies in less time with Griffons, but that's because of their proximity to the town and their concentration of numbers in a small area. I just prefer to fight Hydras. This build works fine with Griffons and Minotaurs too, I just don't hunt them that often.
Let me add a few things while I'm on. Someone who read this PM'ed me in-game and we went hunting together yesterday. It was cool, and he had fun and was happy to see how it was done. It never crossed my mind before then that not everybody in the desert is going to have Droknar's armor and Shield of Judgement.  At the very least, you should have desert collector's armor. It's 80AL and will serve you well until you get to the Forge and can afford the Wyvern / Knights combo. It's also cheap to get. 5 of this, 5 of that, find the collectors... I don't believe the guy I was helping yesterday had that high armor yet because he was taking as much damage from 1 Hydra as I was from 4. It's worth the time and trouble to get the collector's armor. Shield of Judgement is a hard cap. Getting to it and capping it is a chore. Conversely, you can cap Gladiator's Defense directly after beating all the desert missions and ascending. It's not as effective, but will still help considerably. Just put your points into Tactics instead of Smiting to get the full 10 seconds of Gladiator's. And use either an axe grip of defense +5 or warding +7 until you actually have SoJ and need longer enchant times. Either of those will noticably further reduce the damage from the fire spells. There are 2 collectors outside of Serenity Temple (one's close by, one's a little walk) who sell 6-16 req. 3 axes. One of them has a 10% fast skill recharge rate. It used to be 15%, which would have been even better. Its penalty is -10 armor when attacking. I haven't bought one to experiment with yet, but I did get and mod one of the other "plain" ones to lower my Axe Mastery and beef up Smiting. The guaranteed damage from Shield of Judgement will far outweigh the potential 12 extra points from a max axe. John.Whorfin
For those of you that dislike monk farming...
12 curses 11 strength 12 tactics Sharpe_116
lol. KVNDOOM I LOVE U. build is really good, and i still cant beleive teh big ass fuss over the aoe nerf... just boost up sheild and ur good to go. BTW. this is a very very good warrior/monk solo build. but if i may suggest a m/me which would have a much much bigger effect. The bacis 55 build, but take out 2 spells (non important ones) and slap in arcane echo and sheild of judgement. take down groups much faster
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kvndoom
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For those of you that dislike monk farming...
12 curses 11 strength 12 tactics Sweet! I somehow expect Spiteful Spirit to receive the same "treatment" as Zealot's Fire pretty soon, mainly because it's being used in the UW duo builds. But I like to see creativity and other ways to make it work. Great job! What other W/x builds are people having success with? Reve2uk
I use spitefull spirte on a 55 monk and along with life shpion cast on mutipler ppl and some other skills you can take out all the old stuff. Only thing you have to watch out when doing UW is to make sure the aataxe don't intrupt u, and make sure u cast spitefull of the darkness before they get to u.
Sharpe_116
i know a warrior ele, but im not telllllliiiiiing
. also know warrior mezzzz )))) AND KVNDOOM. u comment on his idea and not mine!!!! .... now im just gunna go out and make a build better then urs >
John.Whorfin
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Sweet! I somehow expect Spiteful Spirit to receive the same "treatment" as Zealot's Fire pretty soon, mainly because it's being used in the UW duo builds. But I like to see creativity and other ways to make it work. Great job! What other W/x builds are people having success with?
The next round of AI 'improvements' will likely make mobs stop attacking/casting when hexed with SS/Backfire/...
Here's a W/E build. Nothing like +105 armor to take the edge off 12 Earth 11 Strength 12 Tactics
l Selling God l
Sorry to ask, but whee are u farming these hydras?
kvndoom
New build today: The Lawnmower Woman:
 The most important thing about my enchants is that they require no attribute points in any monk skills to be effective. +2 regen (+1 with the axe I'm using, but still enough), +1 energy per enemy attack, no matter what. That leaves the Warrior stats free to be buffed. No Gladiator's Defense? Yup, that's right. You can substitute Gladiator's for Flourish if you want to, but when I had it, I found I really wasn't using it at all. Against griffs and minotaurs it would be the better Elite, probably. An axe grip of +5 defense would be more universal than a +7 Warding, but I wanted to minimize the fire damage. With Dolyak and WY up, it's down to 16 per meteor / fireball. Quite manageable. No lie, I almost never healed at all, regardless of the size of the group. In fact, I'd probably do better with Endure Pain than heal sig, because 200+ instant HP will get me out of a pinch long enough to finish a tough mob. But Flourish means you can deal some serious pain quickly. Desperation Blow - Cyclone - Flourish - Desperation Blow - Cyclone, all in a few seconds. And you can get in another Cyclone, and by that time Flourish and DB are almost ready again. I call this "Lawnmower" for a reason. You really have to try it and see it to appreciate it. It kills REALLY fast. Especially when DB lands a deep wound or bleeding. 25% of the time it's as good as Eviscerate and doesn't take up an elite spot. Works for me... Of course, you can substitute DB with Power Attack or pretty much any non-adrenaline melee attack. I just like DB because of the possibility of deep wound or bleeding.
m30wc0w
Sorry for the n00b question but what skills are those? I love this build and I want to follow it
kvndoom
Come on, it's all here for the looking...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/class/6-warrior http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/class/3-monk Rufio Lostboy
i do hydras with my invinci-spitefullspirit-necro, can take around 8-9 rahter fast, but they don't seem quite profitable to me .. it IS fun though
Sharpe_116
kvndoom, nice new build, but i think glads or soj would do better :P, STILL VERY GOOD
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