I know this has probably been brought up before, but after searching several key words I could not locate it.
But I find it rather pathetic actually that although gold drops when picked up are evenly distributed amongst party members that Arena hasn't yet seen fit to Automatically Distribute the Gold Drops amongst the party members. Therefore saving us players a lot of time doing something that should be automatic (just as Experience Points are distributed amongst party members{including Henchmen} Automatically) Of course any "Adventurer(s)" would stop and pick up currency seeing as currency doesn't add to encumberance, Items that add to Encumberance(Storage space) I can see being " left behind ". But Gold(Currency) would never be "left behind" by any " Adventurer(s)"
So my Gameplay Suggestion to Arena is: Please just make Gold Drops distributed amongst the party automatically instead of making us have to manually stop and pick it up. My humble opinion is if "I" have to stop and "Physically" pick it up then the Gold should be "MINE" and not shared with the party, especially Henchmen. I'm all for the party sharing the Gold but firmly believe it should be an Automatic system( I mean why can't the Henchmen pick it up too, why must it always be me{When traveling with just Hench}).
This Suggestion is basically to save time as I have noticed how much time we have spent picking up Gold.
Automatic Dispersal of Gold Drops Among Party
Ensabah Nur
Loviatar
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I know this has probably been brought up before, but after searching several key words I could not locate it.
But I find it rather pathetic actually that although gold drops when picked up are evenly distributed amongst party members that Arena hasn't yet seen fit to Automatically Distribute the Gold Drops amongst the party members. . |
hey guy if your time is so valuable just leave the *chump change* on the ground and get on with the show.maybe its not *chump change*??
then quit bitching about having to pick it up.
talk about lazy
Ensabah Nur
hmmm, I don't recall my OP calling it "Chump Change". And it's actually not about laziness it's more in the desire to expedite the gameplay process so "we" can go about adventuring (enjoying the game) just a little bit faster.
Obviously you wasn't taught "If ya don't have anything nice to say , keep ya trap shut."
Obviously you wasn't taught "If ya don't have anything nice to say , keep ya trap shut."
Struth
Though, If bring up something worthy of being called lazy, you should accept the fact that people are gonna call you lazy!
Dude, that is pretty lazy, if you dont have time to pick it up, then you dont deserve the gold.
(Wallet warping, now thated be nice. No more pick-pockets, now theyll just have to have telekinesis and poof, all your moneys gone!)
Dude, that is pretty lazy, if you dont have time to pick it up, then you dont deserve the gold.
(Wallet warping, now thated be nice. No more pick-pockets, now theyll just have to have telekinesis and poof, all your moneys gone!)
DeanBB
What about dead party members? When I'm running with guildies we make a point of waiting for anyone who is down to be rezzed before picking up gold, so they get their fair share.
Otherwise I like the idea. I hate holding alt and looking back to see a pile of gold left behind and having to backtrack to get it. I'm the kind of packrat player who picks up everything.
Otherwise I like the idea. I hate holding alt and looking back to see a pile of gold left behind and having to backtrack to get it. I'm the kind of packrat player who picks up everything.
munch the punani
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I mean why can't the Henchmen pick it up too, why must it always be me
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Mordakai
Uhh, Henchies DO get Green Items... you just can't see them. 
I think that's the point of the OP:
If items are automatically distributed to Henchies, then why isn't Gold?
I suppose the reason being that it's nice to see how much Gold is dropping, although it is annoying running around and picking it up.
Idea: Like XP, a Gold amount flashes whenever gold is dropped.
I like anything that saves Mouse clicks....
I think that's the point of the OP:
If items are automatically distributed to Henchies, then why isn't Gold?
I suppose the reason being that it's nice to see how much Gold is dropping, although it is annoying running around and picking it up.
Idea: Like XP, a Gold amount flashes whenever gold is dropped.
I like anything that saves Mouse clicks....
darkdragon99
yeah think of the mouses mouses have feelings too
Loviatar
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I sort of agree on this one. Should be possible that Henchmen pich up cash too. But should they then also pick up items? You'd be pretty anoyed if Stefan pick up that nice green item that you were looking for in the first place right?
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henchies get their share but it is done behind your back so you dont see the henchie get that fellblade and 2 blobs of ecto while you got glittering dust.they thought it would make people mad.
TO THE OP
SINCE YOU DID NOT MENTION IF IT WAS/WAS NOT *CHUMP CHANGE* I COVERED BOTH CASES.
READING COMPREHENSION 101 FOR YOU
and if the idea stinks dont expect people to pile flowers on it
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Ensabah Nur
I know this has probably been brought up before, but after searching several key words I could not locate it.
But I find it rather pathetic actually that although gold drops when picked up are evenly distributed amongst party members that Arena hasn't yet seen fit to Automatically Distribute the Gold Drops amongst the party members. Therefore saving us players a lot of time doing something that should be automatic (just as Experience Points are distributed amongst party members{including Henchmen} Automatically) Of course any "Adventurer(s)" would stop and pick up currency seeing as currency doesn't add to encumberance, Items that add to Encumberance(Storage space) I can see being " left behind ". But Gold(Currency) would never be "left behind" by any " Adventurer(s)" So my Gameplay Suggestion to Arena is: Please just make Gold Drops distributed amongst the party automatically instead of making us have to manually stop and pick it up. My humble opinion is if "I" have to stop and "Physically" pick it up then the Gold should be "MINE" and not shared with the party, especially Henchmen. I'm all for the party sharing the Gold but firmly believe it should be an Automatic system( I mean why can't the Henchmen pick it up too, why must it always be me{When traveling with just Hench}). This Suggestion is basically to save time as I have noticed how much time we have spent picking up Gold. |
Pity this isn't one of those times.
/not signed
Ensabah Nur
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I've seen some pretty valid complaints filed about glaringly obvious problems or oversights before.
Pity this isn't one of those times. /not signed |
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TO THE OPSINCE YOU DID NOT MENTION IF IT WAS/WAS NOT *CHUMP CHANGE* I COVERED BOTH CASES. READING COMPREHENSION 101 FOR YOU and if the idea stinks dont expect people to pile flowers on it |
Basic Common Sense 100 for you.
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Idea: Like XP, a Gold amount flashes whenever gold is dropped.
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Constructive Criticism and improvements on an idea are always welcome, people bashing an idea because " they don't like it for no apparent reason other than to not like it" will be rebutted.
darkdragon99
i'm sorry but i don't need a new butt
Nighteye
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Though, If bring up something worthy of being called lazy, you should accept the fact that people are gonna call you lazy!
Dude, that is pretty lazy, if you dont have time to pick it up, then you dont deserve the gold. |
NatalieD
It is not laziness to prefer simple convenience over unnecessary clicking.
Loviatar
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OH WOW ! way to cover your butt Loviatar, BTW the idea doesn't stink seeing as in this and other forums more people are for the idea than against.
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you actually think taking into account two possible options is *covering my butt* when you didnt specify how much you valued the gold?if i only assumed one possibility you would probably have said sloppy thinking (and been right)
it is still very lazy.
why not have everything including items auto pickup same as Dungeon Seige with one click?
maybe auto salvage the least valuable items to make room perhaps?
jesh
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(Wallet warping, now thated be nice. No more pick-pockets, now theyll just have to have telekinesis and poof, all your moneys gone!)
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Being lazy is letting the rest of the party pick up all the gold.
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I've tried that recently. Funny enough, no one else bothered to pick it up either, so I ended up doubling back, cause dang it, I want it if no one else does.
Ensabah Nur
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you actually think taking into account two possible options is *covering my butt* when you didnt specify how much you valued the gold?if i only assumed one possibility you would probably have said sloppy thinking (and been right) it is still very lazy. why not have everything including items auto pickup same as Dungeon Seige with one click? maybe auto salvage the least valuable items to make room perhaps? |
As to why not making everything auto pickup, I answered that in my OP. Because Items are an encumberance issue and are assigned to certain players whereas Gold is shared amongst the entire party no matter who picks it up.
And honestly laziness has very little to do with the subject, it's more inconvienced, others get it why is the concept so difficult for you to understand?
And please if ya gonna post stay ON TOPIC, you started drifting there with talk about auto salvage. FYI many other people would like to see a single button/key to pick up all items in an area. I did not mention this in my OP, because that wasn't what I was "suggesting".
If you actually have a "VALID" reason for not wanting the suggestion implemented in game , by all means say so.( You haven't as of yet.) " I don't like it" is not a VALID reason. If not STFU. Thank you.
KANE OG
Just pick the crap up and get on with it. You don't see pennies and nickels jumping into your pocket when you walk down the sidewalk. Stop being so lazy and just click. Are you afraid to battle those last two bosses hovering over your drop, or what? Sheesh.....
Ensabah Nur
* Heavy sigh* Kane, please see my last sentence in my previous post.
Naprius
/signed.. ive already got RSI i dont want more by picking up the petty cash...
(but i still want it, its cash godsdammit.)
(but i still want it, its cash godsdammit.)
Vilaptca
Though really you don't have any valid reasons to put this in the game either.
/unsigned
/unsigned
Ensabah Nur
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Though really you don't have any valid reasons to put this in the game either.
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Please people if you cannot come up with valid/logical reasons for dismissing the ideas/game suggestions posted in forums ignore the threads and move along.
Sheesh, Some of you can be compared to those that said back in the 1800's that we had already discovered anything worth being discovered. By all means let's stop progress before we advance civilization too much.
Loviatar
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your idea of saving tima and effort seems (at least to some) as being lazy.
either your time and effort is worth more than the gold and you leave it and go on
or it is worth picking up.
you would like a valid reason for having to pick it up?
here we go
you may have seen other threads with the topic of *carrots* for people to go after to show progress in the game.
gold on the ground is one of those *carrots*
you actually see a tangible reward for your effort.
with your way all those monsters that only dropped a pile of gold but no other object would have people going *i fought 5 minutes and got nothing?* unless they happened to remember to check their inventory and then happened to have kept a running tally so they knew how much (if any) gold they got.
is that a valid reason to keep gold for people to pick up?
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You don't think so? Everyday most of us search for ways to save time and effort in most everything we do. Why wouldn't we want to save time and effort in GW?
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your idea of saving tima and effort seems (at least to some) as being lazy.
either your time and effort is worth more than the gold and you leave it and go on
or it is worth picking up.
you would like a valid reason for having to pick it up?
here we go
you may have seen other threads with the topic of *carrots* for people to go after to show progress in the game.
gold on the ground is one of those *carrots*
you actually see a tangible reward for your effort.
with your way all those monsters that only dropped a pile of gold but no other object would have people going *i fought 5 minutes and got nothing?* unless they happened to remember to check their inventory and then happened to have kept a running tally so they knew how much (if any) gold they got.
is that a valid reason to keep gold for people to pick up?
Ensabah Nur
Not really Loviatar as you would still see how much gold your party shared everytime an enemy dropped gold because the message would still appear you just wouldn't have to manually pick it up. So you would still recognize your "Carrot"
I reiterate (<which means state again)
Please people if you cannot come up with valid/logical reasons for dismissing the ideas/game suggestions posted in forums ignore the threads and move along.
I reiterate (<which means state again)
Please people if you cannot come up with valid/logical reasons for dismissing the ideas/game suggestions posted in forums ignore the threads and move along.
Vilaptca
If you think thats such a valid reason for doing it with gold, why not items as well? In fact, why don't we start the game at level 20 with the whole game finished and all skills unlocked. Really, you should come up with some valid reasons first before you tell everyone else to come up with some valid reasons why not.
Ensabah Nur
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If you think thats such a valid reason for doing it with gold, why not items as well? In fact, why don't we start the game at level 20 with the whole game finished and all skills unlocked. Really, you should come up with some valid reasons first before you tell everyone else to come up with some valid reasons why not.
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A) I have mentioned why not to do the same with items in my OP.
B) Again yet another reply that drifts OT and still has no valid reason why the suggestion should not be implemented.
C) The valid reasons FOR implementing this suggestion was in my OP and more posts after : IE; save time and effort. How many times will you need to read this before you understand?
FYI in another Forum , I have a poll along with this very suggestion and ATM there are 72% of the votes for implementing and only 28% against. So mayhaps you can figure it out now. It's a decent idea that the MAJORITY would like to see implemented.
Loviatar
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It's a decent idea that the MAJORITY would like to see implemented.
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there is still a much more satisfying sense of picking up a pile of gold than seeing a little message saying x amount of gold has been added to your account.question i have is why are you in such a hurry that you feel the few seconds picking up gold is bothersome?
also do you have any idea how miniscule your so called MAJORITY actually is?
MSecorsky
Of course, there's always that little dude in Dungeon Seige that runs around and collects stuff for you... that was moderately entertaining... but you still got to see your stuff on the ground.
Vilaptca
Fine, I'll post something constructive.
What does this do for the game? How does it improve the game? If this were to be implemented how would it affect the game? Have you seen this done in another game before, and how did it work out?
At the moment, the only reasoning I can see for this is that you're lazy. Not to offend you in any way, but this looks incredibly lazy.
I've played the whole game through with all four of my characters, and almost 95% of the time, someone is picking up the gold. For most of this game you are playing with an average of 6 people. The chance that all 6 people are quite lazy and won't pick up the gold is silly. There is always someone who runs around picking everything up. I've grouped with people who will run away from a fight to go pick up gold we missed.
I can't see any purpose to this being in the game. Are you grouping with henchmen? I have all the time recently. My lag is horrible lately and I don't want to play with people who might complain about me not pulling my weight so I farm SF and GF. I clear the whole place and then go around and pick up anything I missed, typically its gold.
I can imagine the game without having to pick up items. In PUGs, we already have a problem with Warriors running off and attacking the next mob before the casters are ready, imagine how much faster they do it when they have nothing to waste time doing.
Your valid reason of saving time is kind of silly. You'll save maybe 4-5 seconds on a whole mission from not picking up your gold. Wow. I can almost go do something with that time.
If you'd like to link to the post on another forum that had so many people wanting it, that'd be nice. I'd like to see how many people those percentages are based off of and what their reasons are for wanting this besides just "to save time."
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Just rereading this and it sounds sort of like I'm trying to start a flame war...which I'm not...
What does this do for the game? How does it improve the game? If this were to be implemented how would it affect the game? Have you seen this done in another game before, and how did it work out?
At the moment, the only reasoning I can see for this is that you're lazy. Not to offend you in any way, but this looks incredibly lazy.
I've played the whole game through with all four of my characters, and almost 95% of the time, someone is picking up the gold. For most of this game you are playing with an average of 6 people. The chance that all 6 people are quite lazy and won't pick up the gold is silly. There is always someone who runs around picking everything up. I've grouped with people who will run away from a fight to go pick up gold we missed.
I can't see any purpose to this being in the game. Are you grouping with henchmen? I have all the time recently. My lag is horrible lately and I don't want to play with people who might complain about me not pulling my weight so I farm SF and GF. I clear the whole place and then go around and pick up anything I missed, typically its gold.
I can imagine the game without having to pick up items. In PUGs, we already have a problem with Warriors running off and attacking the next mob before the casters are ready, imagine how much faster they do it when they have nothing to waste time doing.
Your valid reason of saving time is kind of silly. You'll save maybe 4-5 seconds on a whole mission from not picking up your gold. Wow. I can almost go do something with that time.
If you'd like to link to the post on another forum that had so many people wanting it, that'd be nice. I'd like to see how many people those percentages are based off of and what their reasons are for wanting this besides just "to save time."
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Just rereading this and it sounds sort of like I'm trying to start a flame war...which I'm not...
Loviatar
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It's a decent idea that the MAJORITY would like to see implemented.
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GOODIEi had a hunch which forum would lean toward getting as little as possible out of PVE and there it was.
the poll is at TGH which is very pvp oriented.
nice wide open sample.
lets have the same poll at GWOnline and check it out
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25 people
http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/showthread.php?t=33009
Sereng Amaranth
I would love to be able to see a henchie pick up a glob of ecto. That would mean I don't have to suffer through another PUG ever again!
Ensabah Nur
OK, you don't like TGH well let's look at the results here:
Of the 16 different people that have posted;
6 have mentioned favoring the idea
1 has decided against(Loviatar)
7 posters have actually had No Opinon one way or the other
and 2 just wanted to call me Lazy(Struth & KaneOG) {Loviatar started by just wanting to call me lazy but decided to dislike it because.. well only he/she knows why?}
So even here the Majority has been in favor of the Gameplay Suggestion, hmmmmm. Please stop while you're behind.
Of the 16 different people that have posted;
6 have mentioned favoring the idea
1 has decided against(Loviatar)
7 posters have actually had No Opinon one way or the other
and 2 just wanted to call me Lazy(Struth & KaneOG) {Loviatar started by just wanting to call me lazy but decided to dislike it because.. well only he/she knows why?}
So even here the Majority has been in favor of the Gameplay Suggestion, hmmmmm. Please stop while you're behind.
Zaklex
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I would love to be able to see a henchie pick up a glob of ecto. That would mean I don't have to suffer through another PUG ever again!
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And to stay on topic, it is lazy if you can't be bothered to click on the gold to pick it up, since you already have to click on items that drop, that millisecond it takes to click on the gold is really going to add up. No matter how many polls you put up and how many people agree with it won't happen, you're only wasting your time asking for such a game mechanic.
MSecorsky
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OK, you don't like TGH well let's look at the results here:
Of the 16 different people that have posted; 6 have mentioned favoring the idea 1 has decided against(Loviatar) 7 posters have actually had No Opinon one way or the other and 2 just wanted to call me Lazy(Struth & KaneOG) {Loviatar started by just wanting to call me lazy but decided to dislike it because.. well only he/she knows why?} So even here the Majority has been in favor of the Gameplay Suggestion, hmmmmm. Please stop while you're behind. |
jesh
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You'll never see it because henches aren't allowed in UW, the choice of characters is just for arguments sake, not a statement of fact.
And to stay on topic, it is lazy if you can't be bothered to click on the gold to pick it up, since you already have to click on items that drop, that millisecond it takes to click on the gold is really going to add up. No matter how many polls you put up and how many people agree with it won't happen, you're only wasting your time asking for such a game mechanic. |
Uh what? It's not a bad idea, though it may not be ground breaking, earth shattering super new territory. There's no reason that it shouldn't be in chapter 2, or sooner.
jimmyhats
the OP keeps asking people to make valid points against his idea... but whenever someone DOES, he just says it wasnt valid and asks them to move on... could you be more full of yourself?
this is a stupid idea. and im not going to explain why. now the OP can at least be justified when he bitchs about this post.
this is a stupid idea. and im not going to explain why. now the OP can at least be justified when he bitchs about this post.
ancient_chozo
I like this idea. It's not lazy; in much the same way that using direct deposit to get paid in real life is not lazy.
With that being said, though, I still wouldn't want to see it implemented. My girlfriend and I play the game together, and, for some reason (don't ask me why, I don't know), she enjoys picking up the piles of gold. I play as a warrior and she plays as an elementalist, and although I'm usually right next to the gold when it drops, I leave it there for her to pick up (in fact, I've been yelled at a couple of times because I didn't leave gold on the ground
). It's such a simple thing, and yet if she weren't able to do it, I know that she wouldn't enjoy the game as much.
I'd guess that there are other people like this, and why take out that little bit of fun for those people just to add some unneeded convenience?
With that being said, though, I still wouldn't want to see it implemented. My girlfriend and I play the game together, and, for some reason (don't ask me why, I don't know), she enjoys picking up the piles of gold. I play as a warrior and she plays as an elementalist, and although I'm usually right next to the gold when it drops, I leave it there for her to pick up (in fact, I've been yelled at a couple of times because I didn't leave gold on the ground
). It's such a simple thing, and yet if she weren't able to do it, I know that she wouldn't enjoy the game as much.I'd guess that there are other people like this, and why take out that little bit of fun for those people just to add some unneeded convenience?
Ensabah Nur
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the OP keeps asking people to make valid points against his idea... but whenever someone DOES, he just says it wasnt valid and asks them to move on... could you be more full of yourself?
this is a stupid idea. and im not going to explain why. now the OP can at least be justified when he bitchs about this post. |
Jimmy it may behoove you to know the definition of a word before using it. Also, when I stated this-
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Jesh, I never said it was groundbreaking, just something I and apparently the majority of a few others (according to the posts/replies) would like the devs to consider.
I fully understand Ancient Chozo's POV. IE:Carrots
And Zaklex are you the decision making Dev for Arena? I didn't think so, so you can not say "It'll never happen " with any authority can you?
jimmyhats
oh i fully understand what "valid" means... however validity is subjective... just because you do not feel that someones point was vaild, does not mean that it wasnt.
and in the case of this thread, "you are lazy" is a valid point, because your suggestion is so utterly asinine.
also, i wanted you to thank you for the speedy reply to my first post, and for proving how truly full of yourself you really are.
and in the case of this thread, "you are lazy" is a valid point, because your suggestion is so utterly asinine.
also, i wanted you to thank you for the speedy reply to my first post, and for proving how truly full of yourself you really are.
Ensabah Nur
*Heavy Sigh* "Some people you just can't reach." - Unknown
Jimmy, obviously you need to pick up a dictionary and lookup the words you didn't understand in the definition of Valid.
As for me being "Lazy" I work over 40 hours a week and raise 5 kids, so anywhere I can cut time/effort, then yea I'm Lazy. Which is still not a VALID counterpoint.
And as for my rapid response to your eloquent reply making me "Full of myself" I work 40 + hours a week and raise 5 kids so my internet time varies(as does yours 2 am & 2 pm).
I am done with you, because I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. more than Nuff Said
Jimmy, obviously you need to pick up a dictionary and lookup the words you didn't understand in the definition of Valid.
As for me being "Lazy" I work over 40 hours a week and raise 5 kids, so anywhere I can cut time/effort, then yea I'm Lazy. Which is still not a VALID counterpoint.
And as for my rapid response to your eloquent reply making me "Full of myself" I work 40 + hours a week and raise 5 kids so my internet time varies(as does yours 2 am & 2 pm).
I am done with you, because I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
more than Nuff Said