Here is a firsthand report on Chinese griffon farming in Augury International 1. I was able to team with a Chinese monk named Tc Chaos Bb. Tc is a professional gamer, his job is to farm for griffons, and he works alongside many other Chinese players doing the same thing.
As soon as we left Augury, Tc cast Blessed Aura, Balthazar’s Spirit, Mending, and Protective Spirit. During combat he also used Shield of Judgement, Symbol of Wrath and Healing Breeze. That’s seven of his skills, I don’t know what the 8th one is.
Tc ran south right past all the scorpions. He did stop to kill minotaurs when he found them in a group. When he got to where the griffons are, he ran around agroing every griffon and every minotaur he could find. They ALL surrounded him at the same time. As far as I could tell, his health never dropped below 100% the entire time. Soon, every minotaur and griffon lay dead and he picked up the drops and returned to Augury. The trip took less than 10 minutes.
My thanks to Tc for allowing me to join him on his hunt. I hope I didn’t get in his way with my feeble attempts to help. It was a real privilege to be allowed into the secret world of Chinese farming.
Thanks Tc....your friend Willy
Chinese farming in Augury Int - an inside report
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
please dont encourage these people.....
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Here is a link to the NY Times article, called Ogre to Slay? Outsource It to Chinese
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/09/te...94&partner=AOL
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/09/te...94&partner=AOL
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I don't know specifically about your new friend's situation, but you should be aware that
-often these farmers work for pennies a day in sweatshop conditions, very much in keeping with more traditional third world sweatshops in the garment industry.
-the practice of selling in game gold for real world money violates the EULA, and in certain jursidictions, may also be against the law
-on a much more mundane level, this practice skews the in-game economy, and indirectly, forces the game developers' hand into making updates which have historically at least, been unpopular.
I might try and curb my enthusiam for the phenomenom, if I were you. There's nothing about the build or skillset that isn't common knowledge and practice. The companies that employ these individuals, or use bots, do so solely to translate in-game currency and items into real world cash for their own profit.
-often these farmers work for pennies a day in sweatshop conditions, very much in keeping with more traditional third world sweatshops in the garment industry.
-the practice of selling in game gold for real world money violates the EULA, and in certain jursidictions, may also be against the law
-on a much more mundane level, this practice skews the in-game economy, and indirectly, forces the game developers' hand into making updates which have historically at least, been unpopular.
I might try and curb my enthusiam for the phenomenom, if I were you. There's nothing about the build or skillset that isn't common knowledge and practice. The companies that employ these individuals, or use bots, do so solely to translate in-game currency and items into real world cash for their own profit.
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Originally Posted by sleazeh
I don't know specifically about your new friend's situation, but you should be aware that
-often these farmers work for pennies a day in sweatshop conditions, very much in keeping with more traditional third world sweatshops in the garment industry. |
And you gotta admit that it this kind of "sweatshop" would sure beat an industrial one!
Not that I support the farming at all - I agree that it ruins the game economy and is of questionable legality and ethics - but you should have your facts straight

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I'm well aware of the ethical and legal questions involved in discussing the phenomenon of Asian game farming, that is why I started the thread "Mystery in Augury Int 1" and why I made an effort to learn more about it from the inside.
I would hardly call this player my "new friend" as he will probably get in trouble for sharing his world with me. For that reason I feel compelled to honor his generosity and skill...otherwise his life is not one we would envy.
Further, I doubt his build is "common knowledge". I watched this player single-handedly defeat over 30 griffons and minotaurs simultaneously without seeing his health slip at all. While I believe the practice of selling virtual currency violates the spirit of the game and ruins the economy for honest players, I respect the skill of this one player who allowed me to witness his farming.
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I would hardly call this player my "new friend" as he will probably get in trouble for sharing his world with me. For that reason I feel compelled to honor his generosity and skill...otherwise his life is not one we would envy.
Further, I doubt his build is "common knowledge". I watched this player single-handedly defeat over 30 griffons and minotaurs simultaneously without seeing his health slip at all. While I believe the practice of selling virtual currency violates the spirit of the game and ruins the economy for honest players, I respect the skill of this one player who allowed me to witness his farming.
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I contend that the build is in fact, common knowledge and widely used.
I also contend that justifying sweatshop labour with the argument that "it's better than nothing" is no justification at all.
Edit: I'm including a link to a thread here from a while ago that illustrates some of the realities of farm houses:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=40543
I also contend that justifying sweatshop labour with the argument that "it's better than nothing" is no justification at all.
Edit: I'm including a link to a thread here from a while ago that illustrates some of the realities of farm houses:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=40543
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
do any search on the "Invinci Monk" builds. since the aoe nerf they added shield of judgement. no difference otherwise as its the same skills and stats and items.
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ok most ask what it is. there are a few modified builds that were EXACTICALLY like this one used even before the aoe patch. a guildmate in my old guild use this build with every skill that you listed. i have screenshots at home of the equipment and the conversation where they stated the skilsl and attributes. if you look hard enough you can find a build very similar if not exacticalyl like this one. they arent some nuclear secret or something.....
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Originally Posted by unienaule
If you actually had done that search, you would have found, instead of it being common knowledge, most people either 1)Ask what it is ...
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And to the OP: What I said above. Solo Monking is pretty old by now.
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From our perspective there are many human rights violations in some parts of Asia and China in particular. I notice how much people focus on what is going on over there and sweat shops and bots and farming and blah. I know sometimes E-Bay and in game purchasing is brought up, but it seems to me this is much more looked over since it's in our back yard. There would be NO farming and botting for items if rich western gamers didn't buy these items. This is something we have much more control over than what is happening in a highly controlled country outside of our direct jurisdiction. We can have a direct influence on this by not purchasing gold and items from websites that sell these. Ebay isn't even the main source of this, but sites set up solely for this purpose. When we as an American or European server community really care about this problem we will stop it on our end and then it will stop on their end.
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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher
What I want to know is if this guy himself said that he was a "professional farmer" working for a sweat shop that sells gold on Ebay..... or just an assumption that he does just because he's Chinese.
I mean there's a lot of idiots that think Chinese player = farming Ebay seller. |
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Originally Posted by sleazeh
I don't know specifically about your new friend's situation, but you should be aware that
-often these farmers work for pennies a day in sweatshop conditions, very much in keeping with more traditional third world sweatshops in the garment industry. -the practice of selling in game gold for real world money violates the EULA, and in certain jursidictions, may also be against the law -on a much more mundane level, this practice skews the in-game economy, and indirectly, forces the game developers' hand into making updates which have historically at least, been unpopular. I might try and curb my enthusiam for the phenomenom, if I were you. There's nothing about the build or skillset that isn't common knowledge and practice. The companies that employ these individuals, or use bots, do so solely to translate in-game currency and items into real world cash for their own profit. |
