The Future of Hydra farming my w/mo riposte build

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

10 Dec 2005 at 20:14 - 1

Me updated = 27/10/06 - after nightfall update

Dont worry .... be happpy

loook look no changes to build... no changes by nerf

only a better dealy riposte!

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found this build very effective, and cheap... it requires no fancy axes/swords, you could do this build with a 1-2 dmg sword

ok heres the build

Armor

platemail/weaven/dragon (90 armor)....
sentinal (100 armor) if trualy the best ... if you've got factions

Runes

suprior/major/minor vigor
suprior tactics
suprior strength

your helm should be +1 strength too

you should had done both attribute quests

Attributes

8 healing (yep your healing source, if your having a hard time lower your tactics and inscrease healing)

15 strength (11+4) (this is for defy pain + doylak sigit, with 15 strength you will have
14 tactics (11+3) (your dmg output, the higher the tactics , the faster your kills)

Skills

Flurry (this will inscrease your adrenaline gain + healing)
Riposte (your primary dmg.. spam it like an idiot)
deadly riposte (your secondary dmg)
defy pain {elite} (your savior

keep on at all times when facing more than 3)
doylak sigit... = god...lol... keep on at all times when fighting hydra
vigerious spirit ... its required after 3 hydra
live vicously (keep on from when you leave augury... then forever)
balthzars spirit (same as live vicously)

the ideal (not neccary setup)

furious sword of warding/defence is your best bet

good 16 armor sheild (if rich have + armor vs fire)

ok once u leave augury rock at north exit spack blathzars spirit on and live vicasouly.

dont worry about energy when u run into the hydra with even 0 energy it will be fine.

as soon as u run into a group doylak sigit before fireball/metoer hit u (u should know when after a bit of farming) once or if u have 5 energy cast vigerous spirit, and by now they should had started to move into you and you health should be around 1/2 or 3/4 depending on the size of the group you faced.

start slashing away at the nearest enimie and do defy pain and then flurry and then spam the hell out of riposte and deadly risposte.

Flurry is very important, without it you have less healing over time and less dmg given out, you should be able to keep it on at all times with 4+ hydra

doyalk sigit should be on at all times too, and defy pain

if riposte/deadly riposte kills the hydra you are slashing instantly change target to keep the healing + adrenal gain going. and continue. this kills them nice and fast and if you do it right your healing>dmg and you will build yourself up to like your max health.

takes practice but you'll get the hang of it

the normal design of teh build
15 strength (+4)
14 tactics (+3) = (if your beginning try with 11 tactics (+1) for higher health)
8 healing

flurry
riposte
-blank-
*elite* = (defy pain/healing hands/gladiators defence)
doylak sigit
vigerous spirit
live vicously
balthzars spirit/sprint (if you take sprint you must take a zealous sword)

will mainly work on....

grawls =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = gladiators defence)

griffons =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = gladiators defence)

trolls =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = gladiators defence, swap balthzars spirit for sprint and take zealous hilted sword)

azure shadows =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = gladiators defence, swap balthzars spirit for sprint and take zealous hilted sword)

enchanteds =====(blank = deadly riposte, elite = defy pain)

hydra's =====(blank = deadly riposte, elite = defy pain)

mangho hydra's =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = defy pain)

sand giants =====(blank = deadly riposte, elite = healing hands)

turda giants =====(blank = deadly riposte, elite = gladiators defence)

Enigmatics

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tenafly, NJ

Defenders of Rillanon

W/Mo

10 Dec 2005 at 22:54 - 2

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dont bother with underworld it would work there on the aaxte if they didn't use ripsote and deady riposte. That, and their ungodly 100-300 damage strikes that Dolyak Signet will scarcely negate.

Good build though -tanking 8 hydras is a feat. And creative, since you have 0 attribute points for your weapon.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

10 Dec 2005 at 23:27 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enigmatics

That, and their ungodly 100-300 damage strikes that Dolyak Signet will scarcely negate.

Good build though -tanking 8 hydras is a feat. And creative, since you have 0 attribute points for your weapon. *cough* 12 hydra

*cough* 15 grawls + 20 crones ( i dont kill the crones )
*cough* enchanted hammers
*cough* 6 mangh hydra
*cough* trolls
*cough* i acauly do have a cold

Meric Hellhammer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

11 Dec 2005 at 07:56 - 4

Just want to say i tried the build tonight and it works amazingly. I'm surprized how user friendly it is. I think i took down 5 at a time with only like 5 min of practice with it. The hardest part of it for me was capping defy pain

i give it a thumbs up

Meric Hellhammer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

11 Dec 2005 at 07:57 - 5

oh yeah btw what kind of stuff do u get from hyrdas the best thing i got was a blue dye

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

11 Dec 2005 at 10:27 - 6

i've got black dyes , mainly ele stuff i got like tons of staffs and wands and a few weapons , but i enjoy farming with it and it works other places as shown above. some serious practice and u will be able to take 10. love the fact that the more u hi the more u heal, and gain adrenaline for riposts , so it's balanced.

NEW PICS:

6 hydra: (my fav)
hydra 6.JPG
6 dead hydra.JPG
8 hydra:
8 hydra.JPG
8 dead hydra.JPG

Reve2uk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/N

12 Dec 2005 at 10:47 - 7

how long dose it take for you to kill a group of hyrda's

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

12 Dec 2005 at 12:00 - 8

quite fast , realy fast......

emm 1 min for like 3 hydra

2 mins for like 6-8

Ye new update in the build:

if u want to take on the mangh hydra use watch yourself insted of deadly riposte.

and if u want to take bigger groups of hydra 12+ do that on them too.

u only get like once chance on the run to get that many at once.

Marcello99

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hi Jinx Rage [Jinx]

13 Dec 2005 at 01:52 - 9

Hmm it would be cool if you could fit hundred blades in there because look at it this way-- if you're getting all this health from constantly hitting hydras you would swing twice which would give you the health you normally get with two hits and then you swing once at every target.

If you have 6 hydras on you it goes this way:

Vigorous Spirit adds +10 to health regain and let's say Live Vicariously gives you +15. That is 25 health regain on one hit. Now 25x2 (You hit Hundred blades) that's 50 health, then if you 6 hydras INCLUDING the one you just hit 25x6 is 150. 150+ 50 = 200 health stolen. If you don't hit the target you just swung at twice you have retained 175 health. That's alot of health taken away. The higher Liver Vicariously is and Vigorous spirit is, the more health you will steal.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

13 Dec 2005 at 08:03 - 10

well defy pain is a must on big groups

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

13 Dec 2005 at 10:29 - 11

You can also do this with Gladiators Defense and / or Healing Breeze.

Defy Pain, like Endure Pain, can be a lifesaver, but if you forget about a superior rune, you can really ignore it. It should not be necessary.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

13 Dec 2005 at 15:00 - 12

tryed it with glad defence it's ok but..................i prefer this + the other suprior rune = more dmg on ripostes

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

13 Dec 2005 at 15:04 - 13

hahaha all he wanted was to show his rank 3 ^^

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

13 Dec 2005 at 17:40 - 14

ROFL why the helll ahaaahaaa

Reve2uk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/N

13 Dec 2005 at 18:41 - 15

how dose the build work agasted manhgo hydras and flesh golems at the same time?

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

13 Dec 2005 at 19:11 - 16

not flesh golems i lure the manhgo hydra to my house ... i mean *cough*......lingering curse is a real bummer

ps..*i'm realy tired*

wahaaay i'm high council :P

Knight of Honor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Titans

W/Mo

14 Dec 2005 at 00:16 - 17

dude this build is awesome just tried it 5 min ago no practice killed 6 hydras at once thx alot

took me like 2-4 min to kill all 6 maybe less didnt count but it was fast

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

14 Dec 2005 at 07:41 - 18

wahaay someone likes it!

Battle Torn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scotland

W/Mo

14 Dec 2005 at 08:51 - 19

I tried this too.... works a treat and easy to use. I had a little prob with the energy managment so I tried healing breeze and not vigerous spirit and mending (with vamp sword) and not deadly riposte cos for some reason I could take larger groups this way. +8 +3 -1 each hit using live vicariously and vamp mod with flurry was a good +10hp each hit

and breeze between riposte was good regen combined with this and I could take em down pretty quick too

good job

ps: where are those mangh hydra at?

bemo03

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Old Saybrook/Connecticut/USA

Blades of Ages

W/Mo

14 Dec 2005 at 09:03 - 20

i just tried it as well. very easy to use and very rewarding. very nice

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

14 Dec 2005 at 12:51 - 21

Quote:

ps: where are those mangh hydra at? outside ember light camp , u need to pulll them away from thier route because of the flesh golems

update pics:

LOL things can get a wee bit stressful:

getting stressed.JPG
ahh much better.JPG

bobmcclune

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Terd Eaters Association [YUM]

W/R

14 Dec 2005 at 16:42 - 22

Capping Defy Pain? Where is the easier place to get this? I want to try out this build tonight....and YOU really have NO points in Sword?

Oh...what kind of armor do you use?

chone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Heeding the Call

14 Dec 2005 at 17:36 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobmcclune

Capping Defy Pain? Where is the easier place to get this? I want to try out this build tonight....and YOU really have NO points in Sword?

Oh...what kind of armor do you use? Defy Pain can be captured in the Frozen Forest from Obrhit Barkwood. I'd suggest starting from Copperhammer Mines. Points into Swordmanship don't matter because you don't use any sword attacks.

I suppose the armor doesn't matter, as long as you have a piece of Ascalon/Knights for absorb. It looks like dont feel no pain uses full platemail + Ascalon boots.

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

14 Dec 2005 at 17:41 - 24

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Originally Posted by Marcello99

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

14 Dec 2005 at 18:37 - 25

Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

well incase u wondering i dont acauly try to kill the hydra i am slashing , i'm like a paracite doing 3 dmg on every slah gaining 20 health every time and adrenaline for ripostes. and then using them agaisn't near hydra!!

bobmcclune

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Terd Eaters Association [YUM]

W/R

14 Dec 2005 at 20:25 - 26

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well incase u wondering i dont acauly try to kill the hydra i am slashing , i'm like a paracite doing 3 dmg on every slah gaining 20 health every time and adrenaline for ripostes. and then using them agaisn't near hydra!! I figured that...however with your current build how many attribute points do you have left over...I am trying to create my own, and I am researching what others have done...so it can expedite the process and in the mean time create a successful build.

I will share any findings.

KoniaX

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Washington

The Army of One

W/P

15 Dec 2005 at 02:03 - 27

this build is quite amazing... ive gotten at least 100k worth of items off this build in the first week of doing this.... u are a god!

death fuzzy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nefarius Union

15 Dec 2005 at 02:58 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobmcclune

I figured that...however with your current build how many attribute points do you have left over...I am trying to create my own, and I am researching what others have done...so it can expedite the process and in the mean time create a successful build.

I will share any findings. you have 1 point left over (which i put into smiting :wub

im using his build now, its pretty good
it definitely takes some getting used to. i need to remember to save adrenaline for defy pain cus i always die.

anyways, so far ive made around 5k in cash from drops, a lot of xp and my first 'good' drop is a fiery spatha. lol
i would have more if i didnt disconnect 5 minutes into the trip

thanks man. this build is pretty sweet

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

15 Dec 2005 at 08:38 - 29

hmmmm i can think of any other ways of improving it but putting watchv yourself on insted of deadly riposte that will make it a bit better with defence but kill slower emm.........

WolflordUlrik

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

League of Enders

W/N

15 Dec 2005 at 09:37 - 30

Dude, change your name to Turok.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

15 Dec 2005 at 16:05 - 31

LOL!!!!! yep hehehehehehe

lasteele

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

danger room

R/W

15 Dec 2005 at 16:37 - 32

nice build!!I wasn't a beleiver until about 10 minutes ago.How does it work in GvG or have you tried it at all?

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

15 Dec 2005 at 16:43 - 33

i dont think it would work in gvg ROFL

Hiryu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Moa Birds

W/R

15 Dec 2005 at 16:51 - 34

A little slow for my tastes, but very easy to use.

Plus you can get most of those skills early with a Drok run. Props.

lasteele

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

danger room

R/W

15 Dec 2005 at 16:58 - 35

You wanna laugh on the floor but you dont have a clue if it works.Hmmm...sounds like all you do is farm.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

15 Dec 2005 at 17:04 - 36

i know how gvg works and i do hoh aswell as farming and it just wont stand a chance in gvg or any other pvp when it's anti melee

Hiryu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Moa Birds

W/R

15 Dec 2005 at 17:12 - 37

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You wanna laugh on the floor but you dont have a clue if it works.Hmmm...sounds like all you do is farm. I'm already laughing on the floor.

dont feel no pain's right. It wouldn't stand a chance in GvG against any half-competent team. Don't even bother trying it.

Only absolute idiots target self-preserving Warriors in GvG/PvP. Especially if they can't do any good damage. This build can't do damage unless the enemy "attacks" you --- ie: tries to harm you using a weapon. Even worse, the skills Riposte and Deadly Riposte only reflect damage back at the enemy when you're standing right next to you. Who cares if you have a ton of armor if the enemy doesn't bother hitting you because you're not even a threat? This build isn't even suited for flag running. Plus, armor ignoring spells and conditions will shred this build. "Obsidian Flame in 3...2...1..." = dead W/Mo.

The build was designed specifically for farming, so it's not so good in other environments... sorta like how an Invincimonk in GvG isn't so good.

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

15 Dec 2005 at 17:17 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by chone

Defy Pain can be captured in the Frozen Forest from Obrhit Barkwood. I'd suggest starting from Copperhammer Mines. Points into Swordmanship don't matter because you don't use any sword attacks.

I suppose the armor doesn't matter, as long as you have a piece of Ascalon/Knights for absorb. It looks like dont feel no pain uses full platemail + Ascalon boots.

Try south of beacon's perch, just a little bit below the first res point. 1/4 chance the boss will spawn there, only a few enemies in the way. BTW I capped this skill with henches and a random person with ripostes at level 14. The henches all died, and I still had the boss and 2 ice imps to deal with. Ripostes are just so awesome though, I was able to kill it and cap.

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Originally Posted by Marcello99

lasteele

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

danger room

R/W

15 Dec 2005 at 17:19 - 39

either way i still give you props on your build for farming.Its one of the best i have ever seen.You have any suggestions on a KD W/MO farming grenths and sorrows.This is my my build as of to date:counter blow
hammer bash
irresistable blow
crushing blow
bonetti's defense
dwarven battle stance
mending
bane signet

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

15 Dec 2005 at 17:21 - 40

OMG, i have the exact same sword, but its rq 7, 15>50 and plus 30 health

btw, if ur into griffon farming talk to kvndoom.. he is the leading hydra farmer on these forums :P