The Future of Hydra farming my w/mo riposte build

Cash

Cash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Bound By Wild Desire [Wild]

Quote:
Originally Posted by karuna the wisper
i use solid w/me build

ele resis
dollyak
WY
riposte
deadly riposte
VIM
heal sig
desperation blow

and strengt to att 15 to get the dollyak in 20 sec so u cant be knok down.... and i dont use heal sig. i spread conditions all around and use VIM so it is guite easy very similar to what i use:

sever
gash
ViM
riptose
deadly riptose
dolyak
ele resist
sprint (just to make the run faster- use heal sig/watch yourself if just starting)

i go with 16 tact (NASTY riptoses!), 12 strength, 9 swords (so bleeding and deep wound last longer plus the added damage from normal attacks), and 3 inspiration. dont need heal sig as you can easily pull off 272 point heals with ViM between 3 bleeders with one wounded. trick is to switch hydras when you see the one youre on already has a condition.

havent tried the W/Mo version yet, but this build goes hella-fast. use to use the zero swords build with W/Me but this one beats it hands down for speed.

also for those who need/sell crafting materials- those claws salvage into around 5 scales per and if you take out the griffons in the area too, the wings give ya a good number of feathers.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

I've been re-writing the guide, gonna do more on it soon

Mister Sparco

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dutch Guild of Honor [DGOH]

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this is what i use:
war/mes

Elemental Resistance (ER)
Wacth Yourself (WY)
Dolyak Signet (DS)
Sever Artery
Gash
Epidemic
Victory Is Mine (VIM)
Healing Signet (in case VIM is still recharging)

the key is to keep up ER, WY, DS
use both conditions -> epidemic - VIM

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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I'm sure someone has though of this but using Auspicious Parry for an elite? Well if you have factions that is. I'll post some pictures. But ya 4 Adrenaline for the price of 1 ..... respan it and repeat.

Great update on the first page Don't Feel No Pain.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

yeah it sounds realy good, .... grr i not got factions, then swap deadly riposte for watchyourself i thinks

BmeiX

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Toronto

Saved

W/Mo

j/w how u get 14tactics and 15str and 9healing..

i put 9healing then add +4 str runes hat+sup rune then I put rest into tactics.. but I only get 10 levels then add the sup rune its 13tactics >_> u did typo? or how u do it?

joncoish

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

who cares if the thread gets off topic a bit? Seems like you guys are being a bit anal about it. Get lives!

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by BmeiX
j/w how u get 14tactics and 15str and 9healing..

i put 9healing then add +4 str runes hat+sup rune then I put rest into tactics.. but I only get 10 levels then add the sup rune its 13tactics >_> u did typo? or how u do it? im pretty sure i had that , anyways yeah 13, 15, 10 is good

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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DOH!!! Auspicious Parry is stance... it works.. sort of but it's not as fast... blah.... (i) can't do more then 3 at a time -(

SoraHawk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

uh sory noob here ^^;;

so is this build used to just make money off off of drops ( i think farming is just hunting monsters for money/drops, no?) or is it actually a build that u can use for like...anything?

again sorry.

druggedchimp

druggedchimp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

you deserve a pat on the back

Blow Up Doll

Blow Up Doll

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Oxford - England

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcello99
Hmm it would be cool if you could fit hundred blades in there because look at it this way-- if you're getting all this health from constantly hitting hydras you would swing twice which would give you the health you normally get with two hits and then you swing once at every target. Try taking a second weapon set using a 3/1 vamp axe - that will boost your life stealing and you can use cyclone (nice non elite alternative for hundred blades)

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoraHawk
uh sory noob here ^^;;

so is this build used to just make money off off of drops ( i think farming is just hunting monsters for money/drops, no?) or is it actually a build that u can use for like...anything?

again sorry. this build is "mainly" for hydra... but i can give you a list of what it does work on...........(if you see the first page it shows how the build alters for differnt foes)

the template is realy



furious sword of defence (this can work well with a clean 2-3 dmg sword lol)

-2-2 (stance/enchatned) sheild is best realy (a normal 16 armor sheild is good too)

15 strength (+4)
13 tactics (+3) = (if your beginning try with 11 tactics (+1) for higher health)
10 healing

flurry
riposte
-blank-
*elite* = (defy pain/healing hands/gladiators defence)
doylak sigit
vigerous spirit
live vicously
balthzars spirit

will mainly work on....

grawls =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = gladiators defence)

griffons =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = gladiators defence)

trolls =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = gladiators defence)

azure shadows =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = gladiators defence)

enchanteds =====(blank = deadly riposte, elite = defy pain)

hydra's =====(blank = deadly riposte, elite = defy pain)

mangho hydra's =====(blank = watchyourself, elite = defy pain)

sand giants =====(blank = deadly riposte, elite = healing hands)

turda giants =====(blank = deadly riposte, elite = gladiators defence)

XiLeF

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/Mo

lol i just tried this build today and its so easy. i can already take out 1 hydra at a time and im level 14 and havent got defy pain or riposte (have the other 6 though).

been powerlevelling on minotaurs, cant find anything better though

im using victos blade and an eternal shield btw, should i not be?

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

victors blade seems ok, and welll an eternal sheild should be good too... its not the type of sheild lol, its the stats.... a 16 armor sehild is nice.. but if your gonna get pricy on your qquipment you should go into....

sheilds with -2 dmg (either stance or encahtned... or both -2-2)

and as for sword..

i prefer furious swords for the hydra with my build... since you get more ripostes in.... but a vampiric blade is ok since it increases your healing...

vancha

vancha

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

Its time for ya to get factions dude!!
Just because its exams time, doesnt mean ya cant have fun at the same time

Raiin Maker

Raiin Maker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

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this is the best build ever... shame i have farmed the area dry...

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Very nice build


I use these equipments, hydras hit only 16 with meteor and fireball, 20 with inferno.. very funny

Elthair

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

W/D

I actually came up with the same... But I've only been killing Ettins with it lol

sh4ft3d

sh4ft3d

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...

Frank Ought To Monk [FotM]

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EXCITEMENT!!!!! Buff to LV

fashion07

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

I get the pefect axe from Hydra, 15^50% foes33,+30HP req9
but I have a question on this build, I tried to solo outside of Port sledge
they do disease, I have no idea, cannot solo them. some monk in there.

Pinball Wizard

Pinball Wizard

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Ontario, Canada

W/E

Sorry to be n00b, but I am going to use this build, but, when I have 11 Tactics and 11 strength, I do not have enough skill points for 9 healing. And I am level 20.

karunpav

karunpav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinball Wizard
Sorry to be n00b, but I am going to use this build, but, when I have 11 Tactics and 11 strength, I do not have enough skill points for 9 healing. And I am level 20. Have you done both attribute point quests?

Pinball Wizard

Pinball Wizard

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Ontario, Canada

W/E

Wow i'm smart. Thanks lol.

Garo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

W/Mo

What are the 2 attribute quests? I know of the Hero's Challenge in Drok's but what is the 2nd one?

k0rg

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

Holy Dragons (HOLY)

W/N

this build works amazingly good! Had no problems in picking up the build and had no problems with killing hydras. Only thing is that im sometimes short on energy and my attributes become messed up, I can't get them correct according to the build. But thats not much of a problem since it is a great build

ikepdx

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garo
What are the 2 attribute quests? I know of the Hero's Challenge in Drok's but what is the 2nd one? Annelle Fipps in Destiny's Gorge gives you "The Forgotten Ones". The quest rewarder gives you "Forgotten Wisdom" (I think that's the name) and that quest is for 15 attribute points.

slyguy700

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

WA

aero snakes

W/Mo

where do you get vigerous spirit & live vicously i cant find em on guild wiki...

xblitzkrieg

xblitzkrieg

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Short Bus

W/Mo

I can't seem to get 11 Strength, 11 Tactics, and 9 Healing... Yes, I have done both attribute quests, so I have 200 attribute points. I have a Strength Helm with a Superior Strength Rune... I also have a Superior Tactics Rune... Why won't it work?

slyguy700

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

WA

aero snakes

W/Mo

yay, after about a week i finally got all skills to do it, (i was at lions arch when i saw this build) and ive gone thru sanctum cay, crystal desert, the mountains, and now im in old ascalon (had to get to yaks bend for vigerous spirit, or mabye it was live viciously... well one of the too. and i went through the mountains to get there, i mean like past sorrows furnace, and well, ive tried it, made about 3k gold (in items) in about an hour, but i died like 10 times. (i did go to town every so often) and i cant seem to handly 4+ hydras, i still need 2nd attrib quest, and to get runes. and a diff sword, but its pretty good considering i now have a source of income

Da Lar Nat Ruler

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Slovakia

Samurai GuildX

W/Mo

DUde... Brilliant build ... but I keep dieing even before I activate defy pain and I have everything you posted there...

Anyway...
I have 2 magnificent questions...
1: how do you lure like 5 or 6 hydras? because they are always in groups of 3 or sometimes 4... becuse when you have dolyak on its hard to move to get to the other group and if you dont activate dolyak signet youl be knocked down by their damm meteors...

2: Where are the growls located and the other creatures?

plae

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

SLAY

A/Mo

This build is totally awesome i get between 5k and 7k a run. the biggest group i encountered was 9 and killed them so easily double thumbs up I luv it.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

27/10/06 - after nightfall update

Dont worry .... be happpy


loook look no changes to build... no changes by nerf

only a better dealy riposte!


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2...m/hydra1-1.jpg

Fox Reeveheart

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

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I didn't have defy pain nor could my computer go long enough for me to cap it without overheating, so i used endure and it worked out alright, i suppose defy would be better though....

and your right about what kind of sword to use ^_^ hydra slaying candy cane swords rock!

edit: sup/minor/major vig runes cost too much, so i bought 3 vitae runes.

PHoenix is cool

PHoenix is cool

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

NZ

Ashes of The Phoenix

W/Mo

Eh, I think the Grawl and that have strip enchantment. So thats kinda hard.

asp1988

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Marshlands of 'The Wilds'

Chese Eaters of America

great build you've made there, i tested it out on hydras with glads to start with. It worked but not so well, then capped defy and gave it a go and bam! toasted the hydras. Though the drops were fairly dismal, is it really worthwhile farming them? I then tried it on trolls and found that it took quite some time as instead of glads or W/E builds, the riposites only damamged one at a time and caused most to flee and regen health. Any tips on avoiding the troll fleeing would be greatly appreciated as this seems to be a problem with every build i've tried out so far.
ps. Nice Work!

Darkpower Alchemist

Darkpower Alchemist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

NYC

The Circle Of Nine[NINE]

E/N

W/Mes can perform the same thing, like this:

[skill=card]Defy Pain[/skill][skill=card]Deadly Riposte[/skill][skill=card]Gash[/skill][skill=card]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill=card]Riposte[/skill][skill=card]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill=card]Mantra of Flame[/skill][skill=card]Lion's Comfort[/skill]

This build is just as effective against hydras,and keeps the killing quicker due to the fact that the sword attribute is still capable of being significatly higher due to the fact that Inspiration doesn't take major investments in this particular build or its derivatives to be effective.

Also, you can use various stances from inspiration to augment your farming builds against other foes.

As for fleeing foes, that is the AI defending itself, so the best bet would be to use W/Mes and [skill=card]Physical Resistance[/skill] along with the build I posted. Tactic at 12,Sword at 14, and strength at 9(8+1) and the rest in inspriration.

Doubefoot

Doubefoot

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

In a cardboard box

Guild of Drunken Masters [Lush]

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Wow I hate you :P I'm gonna have to try this, any idea if this is better than IDS farming?

bored-.-bored

bored-.-bored

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Behind You...

X Team Slayers X

Can u do this in HM no i havnt check rest of thread as there is 18pages -.-

Doubefoot

Doubefoot

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

In a cardboard box

Guild of Drunken Masters [Lush]

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Also, will Glads def work better than defy pain? I mean ti could work, but I don't really like that skill as much <_<