What TIME IS IT?!

kreg

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

All,

First time poster...howdy!

Please excuse me if this has already been mentioned, or is already in game, but how about an in-game CLOCK! WoW had one and i thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. (altho the rest of the game was a level-treadmill with very pretty graphics and unresponsive developers...but i digress.)

I don't know how many times i have to quit the game just to see what time it is. (yes, i know a clock in my computer room would solve the problem, but that's not the point.)

SO, is there a clock built-in the game, or does anyone else have any thoughts on the matter?


be careful out there,

-k

NoseJob

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Me/E

Uhm, well......a clock in your computer room?

Horogan Sivoris

Horogan Sivoris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

UK baby

This has been suggested before, I don't mind if it is or isn't implemented, but I think many people would be happy.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Yeah it's kinda annoying, playing almost all bnet games for years I get

"Invalid Command" like crazy when I try to do /time. Then because I'm not thinking I think I typed it wrong so I do it again.

/time
Invalid Command
/time
Invalid Command
/time
Invalid Command
/ti.... oh...

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoseJob
Uhm, well......a clock in your computer room?
Windowed mode is yer best friend

Mimu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

England, UK

Call of Destiny [call]

It would be useful when planning events..

For example, If you have a guild where some members are American, some English and some Australian..You could just say "Our meeting is at 7pm GWST (Guild wars standard time. )"

That way, it eliminates all of the annoying time zone differences.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

No "in-game command" to display that basic info?

Arkhaine

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

just click the little wondowed button whem you want to check and then when you see the time hit it again and your back in fullscreen

r0tc0d

r0tc0d

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

Or hit up a little ALT+TAB.... Guild Wars works perfectly... unlike several other games.

Mallich

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

House Delletore

Me/R

Actually although it's really not a huge thing this was truly the only thing I REALLY liked about WoW. It's nice to not have to minimize your screen just to check the time, and then you know that everyone is working off the same time.

Great Suggestion!

thaumaturge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mo/Me

Heh, the only thing you liked about WOW was that it told the time? Must have been a great game lol.

Dagbiker

Dagbiker

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Join Date: May 2005

Maryland

that would be cool, and it might leed to great things, such as weather, and day and night effects

Mallich

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

House Delletore

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by thaumaturge
Heh, the only thing you liked about WOW was that it told the time? Must have been a great game lol.
It's sad but yeah, there wasn't that much that I liked about that game... I just don't like games where I have to level for hundreds upon hundreds of hours before I can truly PvP, which is much of why I play these games. (and the PvP in WoW just isn't that great)

Witchblade

Witchblade

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Join Date: May 2005

WoW isn't that great yeah
"Suxx" d be more appropriate

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
Windowed mode is yer best friend
Only if you want the game to run like crap.

Adding a realtime clock which gets the time from your PC would be great.

But better idea would be a Time-Online clock... must have played for 6 hours yesterday and didn't even think about it. Would like to be to keep track of my gametime.

Luggage

Luggage

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

sweden

Crap? yea I guess 39fps is crap for a 1311x794 (wtf? :P) running on my main 1600x1200 monitor, with trillian , moonabies map and winamp on the other.

Tho I admit that I have to turn of AA in windowed mode tho.

And this isn't a very high end machine at all.

Witchblade

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Only if you want the game to run like crap.

Adding a realtime clock which gets the time from your PC would be great.

But better idea would be a Time-Online clock... must have played for 6 hours yesterday and didn't even think about it. Would like to be to keep track of my gametime.
Game running like crap? Never got that prob..
GW runnin' in WM + forums winamp msn and sometime other game at the same time..runnin perfectly

Horogan Sivoris

Horogan Sivoris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

UK baby

I want them to put beats back in. I love beats.

(beats = internet time)

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
Game running like crap? Never got that prob..
GW runnin' in WM + forums winamp msn and sometime other game at the same time..runnin perfectly
So does mine buddy boy, so stop commenting like I have a issue with mine, since it doesn't.

My point is that there are people with low specs machines playing this game as Windows Mode may not work well for them.

Not everyone has a uber gaming machine. Most people have low-med range ones.

Witchblade

Witchblade

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Join Date: May 2005

Yep u r right..sry

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
Yep u r right..sry
Think of the low level people... hehe

Elurian

Elurian

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Join Date: May 2005

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err my computer is at least 5 years old and it runs GW just fine in windowed mode I have no idea what you're referring to as running like crap just doesn't make sense to me.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elurian
err my computer is at least 5 years old and it runs GW just fine in windowed mode I have no idea what you're referring to as running like crap just doesn't make sense to me.
How old it is isn't the point, more of an age of hardware point-of-view... GW maybe be different but most games tend to run worse in Windowed Mode.

If you don't know what I referring to, you must never have played a large 3D game in windows mode.

NOW BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE...

Needless to say ALT+TABBING and Windowed Mode is a easy solution, but I'm sure programing in a simple clock is better in the long term.

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

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Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

You know, if you ever find yourself wondering what time it is, I would say it is time to buy a watch.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsmith
You know, if you ever find yourself wondering what time it is, I would say it is time to buy a watch.
Maybe so, but that hans't added to the thread now has it? Almost every MMOnline Game I've played as a clock or timer of somesort.

Witchblade

Witchblade

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsmith
You know, if you ever find yourself wondering what time it is, I would say it is time to buy a watch.
U mean using something not PC-related? how weird

kreg

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

ahh Sartre...

anywho, all good suggestions. Sure i could put a clock in the room (as i noted), wear a watch, or Alt-Tab (hey, never thought it would work as so many games misbehave, but cool to know!), but again, i'm just mentioning the "cool factor" of being able to (as in WoW) roll my mouse over the map and see my local time, maybe just pulled from my rig or a server or whatever.

As Mallich said, this was actually one of the few things i saw in WoW that made me go "Wow...why doesn't EVERY game have this?!". heck, even if it could be incorporated as a timestamp feature for chat...i dunno. Seems fairly easy, but if it's not added, then here's to hoping some sort of GuildWars Alternate UI (like Cosmos for WoW) will add some sort of functionality like this.

-k

Dreamsmith

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Minnesota

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Maybe so, but that hans't added to the thread now has it?
It has, actually, much more so than your own post, although apparently my point has gone over your head.

Quote:
Almost every MMOnline Game I've played as a clock or timer of somesort.
Now there's a silly reason to do something. Would you like a list of things that GW does differently from almost every other online game? It's a huge list. Merely pointing out that others do things differently does not constitute anything even remotely close to a sensible argument.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kreg
As Mallich said, this was actually one of the few things i saw in WoW that made me go "Wow...why doesn't EVERY game have this?!".
Because it's non-immersive. In fact, quite the opposite. In an MMORPG where game time follows real time, it makes sense. In a game like GW, it doesn't -- it pulls you away from the illusion.

There's a reason why you don't usually find clocks on the wall in a casino, too. Pretty close to the same reason, actually. It detracts from the experience of being in "another world" of sorts. Since GW doesn't make more money the longer you stay in, unlike a casino, there's no profit motive here, it's simply the desire to not constantly spoil the illusion.

StormWater

StormWater

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Murrieta, CA

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The on-screen clock could be added without bothering those who want to immerse themselves so deeply into the world of the game without those unpleasant reminders of reality, such as waking up a spouse as you climb into bed at 2 a.m., going to work/school on 3 hours of sleep, etc.

Make the clock optional, just like all the other info screens.

Jackell

Jackell

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Buffalo NY

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I don't really see that much of a point in it, but as long as you can turn it off I can't see it doing any harm. So, why are people jumping all over it and insulting it?

Personally, any little tweak like this that doesn't affect the gameplay and balance, that you have the option to use or not, I can't really see a problem in, so I'm all for it.

After all, if it won't affect your gameplay experience at all, why not something to help other people out?

Dreamsmith

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Minnesota

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I agree, if you can turn it off, it doesn't do any harm. Other than the fact that you're now asking the developers to solve a problem for you that you can easily solve yourself with something a simple as a watch, or a cheap desk clock.

I just find it amusing when people whine to developers to solve problems they can already, easily solve themselves. My clock, my watch, my cellphone, my PDA, good grief it seems like everything I own has a clock on it. Does anyone really need yet another clock? Can't we find something actually useful for the devs to go work on?

Jackell

Jackell

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Buffalo NY

None at the moment

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsmith
Can't we find something actually useful for the devs to go work on?
Well, I'm sure they have interns to do all their bitch work. :P

kreg

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsmith
Because it's non-immersive. In fact, quite the opposite. In an MMORPG where game time follows real time, it makes sense. In a game like GW, it doesn't -- it pulls you away from the illusion.

There's a reason why you don't usually find clocks on the wall in a casino, too. Pretty close to the same reason, actually. It detracts from the experience of being in "another world" of sorts. Since GW doesn't make more money the longer you stay in, unlike a casino, there's no profit motive here, it's simply the desire to not constantly spoil the illusion.

Yeah, not like the incredibly immersive feel and sense of being in "another world" that macros like dancing and rock/paper/scissors add to the game...

-k

Nicholai Phoenix

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I think a clock would be a nice feature, yes getting a desk clock would solve it... but some people are too lazy to actully go buy one =P
They can have another check box in the options menu asking if you want the clock to appear when you mouse over the map, and also if they do put it in, as someone stated earlier, knowing how long youv been online would be nice, they could put that under the time like:
[Time]
[How long youv been playing]
I think that would be nice... or just type /time and it tells you that in the chat box, ether or, I think its a good idea.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsmith
It has, actually, much more so than your own post, although apparently my point has gone over your head.


Now there's a silly reason to do something. Would you like a list of things that GW does differently from almost every other online game? It's a huge list. Merely pointing out that others do things differently does not constitute anything even remotely close to a sensible argument.


Because it's non-immersive. In fact, quite the opposite. In an MMORPG where game time follows real time, it makes sense. In a game like GW, it doesn't -- it pulls you away from the illusion.

There's a reason why you don't usually find clocks on the wall in a casino, too. Pretty close to the same reason, actually. It detracts from the experience of being in "another world" of sorts. Since GW doesn't make more money the longer you stay in, unlike a casino, there's no profit motive here, it's simply the desire to not constantly spoil the illusion.
That is possibly the most negative reply I've ever seen. Most your posts seem to be you complaining about anything people say. Needless to say your high post count doesn't make you a know it all.

GW doesn't "pull me into another world" its a Hack and Slash game, and with few direct Role play elements doesn't really allow me to join "another" world so to speak. Only game that's done that for me was UO years ago.

Most people agree a very basic time/gametime timer would be handy and easy to implement, and yes it would be easy to element. So lets see some more positive.

Arrow Whisper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Windowed mode, and alt+tab works like a true windows program should. Not like say.........EverQuest and some other games that would cause you to crash.

Galatea

Galatea

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Join Date: Feb 2005

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Just bumping this - I was about to start a new thread, but figured it'd be covered to death by now.

I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult for them to add, but I'd like to see a /time or /clock print the following:

Real time: Wed. 6-8-2005 11:47 a.m. PST, Mouvelian time: Day 43, 1072 AE, Zephyr Season, Air Alignment

I mean, there IS a Mouvelian calendar in the game manual, after all, and I'd like to see it play a part in the actual game as well - so not only would we know when it is in our game time, we'd know real life time without having to look away or reach for your clock, whatever..

Plus maybe later one day, the devs can implement quests available only during the Zephyr season for example, etc.

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

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Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

my pc is ancient (2 years... lol, that's almost prehistoric) and windowed mode means super slow for everything... when in windowed mode surfing the net is like trying to play the newest cutting edge game as far as lag and such...

I would welcome an ingame clock (especially one that had GW time and your local time as was mentioned).

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

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Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Galatea
Plus maybe later one day, the devs can implement quests available only during the Zephyr season for example, etc.
They already do this, for example, Riverside Province is only playable at night (game time).

Do keep in mind that there's no "game time" ongoing like there would be in an MMORPG. For some people, it's two years ago relative to others. Your current "game time" depends on where you are, and it's always that time at that location, since that's the time that the event in question occurs in the overall story.

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

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Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

lol, my first run through PvE pickup groups had me going on foot to all these crazy locations and I did all the missions out of order. I rescued people I had earlier killed, delivered secret messages to folks I already knew where spies... surreal...