+40% axe better than HoD?
art_
bah. ah well, i bought earlier so i didn't spend too much on grips.
But then i didn't have very much to spend...
But then i didn't have very much to spend...
Makkert
To everyone that now complains about the fact that the 40% axe will be taken out:
Do you really think its fair to gain an unintended advantage? And not just a small advantage,this was in no way good for gamebalance. The HoD sword is a different case in that it didn't overwrite any 'gamelaws', but was used in a different way then probably expected (not claiming to approve of the decision made by ANet how to handle the HoD sword), but this axe was wrecking every enchantment skill. For long term balance, this was the best decision. Anyone hopping in when Chapter 2 came out would else be in an inferior position to long time players if they nerfed it like HoD sword.
So you spend a lot of money on it? And you had NO idea that this could possibly be nerfed? I do not believe it, sorry. The possibility of it being nerfed has been explicitly mentioned on this forum multiple times. And even if you didn't read that, you could have had a gutfeeling this was not intended. Its a shame that you lost a large amount of money, but what is more worth: gamebalance or your virtual money?
Now, if you want to complain about paying to much, be my guest.
*grabs popcorn*
~ Makkert the Mediocre Meany
Do you really think its fair to gain an unintended advantage? And not just a small advantage,this was in no way good for gamebalance. The HoD sword is a different case in that it didn't overwrite any 'gamelaws', but was used in a different way then probably expected (not claiming to approve of the decision made by ANet how to handle the HoD sword), but this axe was wrecking every enchantment skill. For long term balance, this was the best decision. Anyone hopping in when Chapter 2 came out would else be in an inferior position to long time players if they nerfed it like HoD sword.
So you spend a lot of money on it? And you had NO idea that this could possibly be nerfed? I do not believe it, sorry. The possibility of it being nerfed has been explicitly mentioned on this forum multiple times. And even if you didn't read that, you could have had a gutfeeling this was not intended. Its a shame that you lost a large amount of money, but what is more worth: gamebalance or your virtual money?
Now, if you want to complain about paying to much, be my guest.
*grabs popcorn*
~ Makkert the Mediocre Meany
Lord Mendes
i feel sorry for the people that invested some huge amounts of plat on these. SELL THEM ALL FAST!!!! however people r still selling 18 percent enchant grips for 60k in europe (not a diss i swear i have nothing against europeans) so im guessing only half the people that r following this trend r aware of Gaile's "warning".
drogrin
sell them fast? that would just mean that someone else will lose a lot of money, b/c you screw him.
thats no solution.
maybe Anet replaces each bugged axe with 100k gold? :P
thats no solution.
maybe Anet replaces each bugged axe with 100k gold? :P
D3file
i broke even
The Yoink
Parades for A-net, the axe is gone! Why do I care, you ask? Well, no more:
"WTB: Axe Grips of Enchanting 15-20%, whisper me price"
spammed in EVERY single district in EVERY single town ALL the time..
"WTB: Axe Grips of Enchanting 15-20%, whisper me price"
spammed in EVERY single district in EVERY single town ALL the time..
allience
well it better get nerfed since i just sold mine for same price that i bought =/
koneko
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
All I can say is, do not spend a lot of money or a lot of time trying to get this axe, for it will be gone shortly. And yes, speaking to Mike O'Brien tonight, I believe that "gone" means both newly generated as well as previously generated versions. In other words, this Uber Axe of Doooom will turn into a Nice But Normal-ish Axe in the very near (I'd say within 24-48 hours) future.
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So glad I didn't get caught up in the hype and frantic "WTB AXE GRIP MODS PST ME!!!111shiftone1" fever. All I've actually lost due to this "SoA axe" has been...an hour or so of my time.
Xunlai Master
Hey Gaile Gray, can u pls ask arenanet to let us keep the customized items?? i used 62 ectos (i wasted like 2x 10/10 n 4x 30hp cos i didnt know how to make 60hp axe) on perfect upgrades.. not to resell for profit but to keep, cos i like this game.
i customized all the axes i made. can we at least keep the customized ones?
Or at least keep the hp modded ones?? HOD axe is still around u know. i can live without 40% enchant axe.
i customized all the axes i made. can we at least keep the customized ones?
Or at least keep the hp modded ones?? HOD axe is still around u know. i can live without 40% enchant axe.
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
All I can say is, do not spend a lot of money or a lot of time trying to get this axe, for it will be gone shortly. And yes, speaking to Mike O'Brien tonight, I believe that "gone" means both newly generated as well as previously generated versions. In other words, this Uber Axe of Doooom will turn into a Nice But Normal-ish Axe in the very near (I'd say within 24-48 hours) future.
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Props to you A-Net!!!
jray14
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Originally Posted by Zakarr
40% last longer hammer isn't so good because you can't use artifacts or any off-hand items. Losing +12 energy and few other mods is pretty bad.
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Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by Fade Away
I'm kinda upset about losing tons of gold.
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You lost the bet. I'm a gambler in real life, but I don't complain when I lose.
jray14
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Originally Posted by Xunlai Master
u can make 40% enchant axe by puting 2x 20% enchanting on..
but how do u make 60hp axe???? i put 30hp n made 55hp axe, then i put another 30hp on 55hp axe n got 30hp axe.. |
Jetdoc
60HP axes don't exist, only 55HP axes. Even the HoD axe, if I remember correctly, had an inherent +25 HP mod on it, not a +30. So, you put one grip on it and whammo - +55 HP.
Xenrath
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You will not exploit any bug in Guild Wars and you will not communicate the existence of any such exploitable bug (bugs that grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits) either directly or through public posting, to any other user of Guild Wars. Bugs should be promptly reported via 'Ask a Question' at http://support.guildwars.com. |
Only an idiot is going to argue about this one. It's blatantly a bugged item (not the same as Hod crafter items)
Hells Vengeance
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
This is my exact comment:
WTS 39% enchanting axe. wisp offer that was all. I was expecting to get maybe 30-40k for it just simply because of the enchanting grips. I was never asking for the price i recieved for it |
jray14
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
60HP axes don't exist, only 55HP axes. Even the HoD axe, if I remember correctly, had an inherent +25 HP mod on it, not a +30. So, you put one grip on it and whammo - +55 HP.
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wolver1ne
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Originally Posted by Hells Vengeance
Wow if your expecting it to be that low can I buy one from you fro 40k!
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Yichi
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Originally Posted by Hells Vengeance
Wow if your expecting it to be that low can I buy one from you fro 40k!
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Xenrath
Just a thought: everyone who has been selling/buying/using this axe (with a view to modifying it as described/selling it modified) has been breaking the rules of conduct. Just be glad Anet aren't throwing bans around (not that they won't, they might still do...)
Katch
I'm sure there is probabally something mildly profound to say about it being nearly Christmas and having our toys taken away...
dansamy
I sure hope they don't start swinging the ban-stck. I'm guilty. I'll admit it. I had to see if it really added up to +40% or not. Add in Blessed Aura and my prot enchants were lasting almost 2x as long. My jaw just dropped.
Yichi
Theres a vast majority of people that have them/use them. hopefully the ban stick will stay on the shelf
Xenrath
Well a few hundred people don't count as the vast majority (in a game of millions of customers). The point is made though, nobody is in any position to complain about what Anet does from this point onwards, since they set the rules before you even bought the game.
capitalist
Shopping List Friday Afternoon at the Chinese Market:
18% Grip x 6 = 18k
19% Grip x 3 = 16k
20% Axe (salvage) = 5k
Selling a Quest Reward with a couple of enchanting grips... Priceless
Yeah, I made a lot of money with this...
18% Grip x 6 = 18k
19% Grip x 3 = 16k
20% Axe (salvage) = 5k
Selling a Quest Reward with a couple of enchanting grips... Priceless
Yeah, I made a lot of money with this...
Hell Marauder
I bought grips on Saturday and sold my enchant axe on Sunday, after knowing this item will significantly unbalance pvp. There is a fine line between an item that gives a slight advantage and one gives too much power, especially one that's made by players themselves and not by ANET.
dansamy
Capitalism ftw, eh?
Sharpe_116
The only thing im consered with now is. Will a-net really start banning?? considering that more than 80% of gw's population has contributed to this glitched axe.... Would they really destroy their whole population? and the other thing.... when are people going to realize this is a quest item??? i see people selling the axe plain for 25k, 23k. a-net should not DISCONTINUE. SHOULD NOT. because then the prices will fly through the roof for the axe. They should not take it outa the game and leave all these players who played 200k+ in the dust....... so what should they do? nothing..... since absoulutly evryone can get this axe... why discontinue it? everyone has the ablility to get it. its not gold or anything, takes 30 min? so whats the problem. Its not unbalanced since everyone can get it, its not over powered cuz everyone can get it.... the only problem i see is pvp, and that can ezily be fixed by adding a pvp +40 enchant or +55 health axe as a weapon :S
Loviatar
NOW THAT IT DOESNT MATTER.......A SECRET
to all who spent hours doing the *DEFEND THE WALL* mission to get the *SCAVENGERS IN THE RUINS* quest for the axe
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS TALK TO SQUIRE ZACHERY AND GO BACK FOR THE AXE QUEST.
THAT was Tyduses quest NOT the mission.
15-20 minutes turn around and a quick run (level 1-2) to the sanitarium and back out to the guy without a fight
to all who spent hours doing the *DEFEND THE WALL* mission to get the *SCAVENGERS IN THE RUINS* quest for the axe
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS TALK TO SQUIRE ZACHERY AND GO BACK FOR THE AXE QUEST.
THAT was Tyduses quest NOT the mission.
15-20 minutes turn around and a quick run (level 1-2) to the sanitarium and back out to the guy without a fight
Lord Mendes
I hope they dont ban any1 for this. Can u imagine all the elite gw players get banned because they bought a few enchant grips.
EDIT: By elite i mean those of u that bid thousands of ectos on perfect crystalines and that have abt 9 rank.
EDIT: By elite i mean those of u that bid thousands of ectos on perfect crystalines and that have abt 9 rank.
Xenrath
Oh come on, where did you make up that 80% figure from? The majority of players won't have it, and certainly not with double enchantment mods. Quite frankly the majority could not/cannot afford it. It's a bug. It's broken. It has been and is being exploited. Not how it's supposed to be. The ones who spent a lot of money on it knew full well they were paying/gambling on this exploit. Why else would they pay such extreme amounts if they didn't realise it was going to be clobbered?? They gambled and they lost. Anet would be very much in their rights to swing the ban stick around, and would be right to do so (read the rules as quoted above). As I said just be happy and glad they're not going down that path (that we're aware of, not confirmed yet)
Axe grips formerly worth 10-15k suddenly selling for 100k+ in a day? Modded version selling for up to 900k in some cases? Not even John McEnroe would question this one.
Axe grips formerly worth 10-15k suddenly selling for 100k+ in a day? Modded version selling for up to 900k in some cases? Not even John McEnroe would question this one.
jray14
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Originally Posted by Sharpe_116
The only thing im consered with now is. Will a-net really start banning?? considering that more than 80% of gw's population has contributed to this glitched axe.... Would they really destroy their whole population? and the other thing.... when are people going to realize this is a quest item??? i see people selling the axe plain for 25k, 23k. a-net should not DISCONTINUE. SHOULD NOT. because then the prices will fly through the roof for the axe. They should not take it outa the game and leave all these players who played 200k+ in the dust....... so what should they do? nothing..... since absoulutly evryone can get this axe... why discontinue it? everyone has the ablility to get it. its not gold or anything, takes 30 min? so whats the problem. Its not unbalanced since everyone can get it, its not over powered cuz everyone can get it.... the only problem i see is pvp, and that can ezily be fixed by adding a pvp +40 enchant or +55 health axe as a weapon :S
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Sharpe_116
well i still tottaly dis-agree with the whole idea of banning everyone . btw, would anyone mind reffering me to a link of the rules of a-net and guild wars lmfao??? i cant decide if i should delete all my axes before a-net does something
Lord Mendes
i just sold mine (only had 1). No use keeping it since u know it is going to be modified and it might get u in some trouble with A.net.
Hell Marauder
Banning people? Nah, you don't ban people who put food on your table and gave you your paycheck. ANET only ban people who pose as a serious threat to the public. Just remember we are the reasons ANET exist, not the other way around. So don't get paranoid about banning.
CKaz
and you got that # how, a popular thread on a board?
I got a couple of the quest axes just in case Anet left them in the game but didnt allow you to get it any more (alla HoD) which I think would have been a mistake. In general they seem to do a good job but they can goof up
it's obviously a bug, overpowered, and was going to get removed.
banning could apply to those who profited and/or used this (modded enchanted) axe but probably too many have touched this to make that viable.
but there's sooo many more casual players, those who didnt have the cash, or really care to jump into the exploit the haft game.
I'm glad Gaile spoke up about it now. As for the market game, some played and won [big], some played and lost [big] - but either way you had to know the risk was huge. Some just sat back and now have a good chuckle too
I got a couple of the quest axes just in case Anet left them in the game but didnt allow you to get it any more (alla HoD) which I think would have been a mistake. In general they seem to do a good job but they can goof up
it's obviously a bug, overpowered, and was going to get removed.
banning could apply to those who profited and/or used this (modded enchanted) axe but probably too many have touched this to make that viable.
but there's sooo many more casual players, those who didnt have the cash, or really care to jump into the exploit the haft game.
I'm glad Gaile spoke up about it now. As for the market game, some played and won [big], some played and lost [big] - but either way you had to know the risk was huge. Some just sat back and now have a good chuckle too
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Originally Posted by Sharpe_116
The only thing im consered with now is. Will a-net really start banning?? considering that more than 80% of gw's population has contributed to this glitched axe.... Would they really destroy their whole population? and the other thing.... when are people going to realize this is a quest item??? i see people selling the axe plain for 25k, 23k. a-net should not DISCONTINUE. SHOULD NOT. because then the prices will fly through the roof for the axe. They should not take it outa the game and leave all these players who played 200k+ in the dust....... so what should they do? nothing..... since absoulutly evryone can get this axe... why discontinue it? everyone has the ablility to get it. its not gold or anything, takes 30 min? so whats the problem. Its not unbalanced since everyone can get it, its not over powered cuz everyone can get it.... the only problem i see is pvp, and that can ezily be fixed by adding a pvp +40 enchant or +55 health axe as a weapon :S
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Lord Mendes
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Originally Posted by Sharpe_116
a-net should not DISCONTINUE. SHOULD NOT.
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Why not?
should they just keep an axe with 2 hafts (or grips lol, not sure which)
Lord Mendes
haha 49 people watching the live downfall of the SoA axe!
I love gw
I love gw
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Fade Away
Well this sucks.
Now I'm down about 40-50k and I can't sell them because everywhere I got some idiot yells at me to tell me I'm stupid. I'm kinda upset about losing tons of gold. *sigh* |
stop your whineing already.
according to your other post you make 50k in one day.
BFD on your loss
capitalist
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Originally Posted by dansamy
Capitalism ftw, eh?
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