+40% axe better than HoD?

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Has anybody tried if the double grip trick works on the axe that is available from collector Leighton Cranford in North Kryta Province? This is a Battle Axe of Fortitude, but it also has +15% dmg vs. undead, so there may be a "hidden" grip of Deathbane.

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
Has anybody tried if the double grip trick works on the axe that is available from collector Leighton Cranford in North Kryta Province? This is a Battle Axe of Fortitude, but it also has +15% dmg vs. undead, so there may be a "hidden" grip of Deathbane.
Yes, but your info is wrong. It has a constant +3 vs Undead, and it doesn't work. I'm trying to find crappy hammer grips for two hammers in Ascalon at the moment, to see if those work.
Though I doubt it because both also have +25% vs Charr mods. Probably going to be a waste of money again, but hey, I have to do something with it
From what I've seen from collector's weapons on guildwiki, there are no other weapons with similar mods.

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by unienaule
However, I would stake my life that there is a penalty to it, like -10 armor while attacking, -5 energy, or -1 energy regeneration.
Your life is safe .

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

the simplest way to nerf this is to leave the axe as a reward, disable the double haft bug, and then put a cap on the max enchantments can be extended via mod, just like how speed buffs, degen, regen are all capped.

Lord Mendes

Lord Mendes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Derka-Derka Land

Steel Phoenix (StP)

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
the simplest way to nerf this is to leave the axe as a reward, disable the double haft bug, and then put a cap on the max enchantments can be extended via mod, just like how speed buffs, degen, regen are all capped.
Amen!

Itok

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
the simplest way to nerf this is to leave the axe as a reward, disable the double haft bug, and then put a cap on the max enchantments can be extended via mod, just like how speed buffs, degen, regen are all capped.
From the outside and in a perfect world, this'd rock. Easy peasay Japanesey. A li wiggel the nose and *BAM* it's done.

In A'Net/NCSoft they may only be able to remove all mellee weapons wiith two mods. Or, maybe that'd be too tough/complicated/time consuming to dig down to and they'll need to write a tool to parse the db and pull the data needed. Then double check the data and sort it out.

None the less, I must echo those before me, in that A'Net/NCSoft need to remove this axe completely (from quest & all ingame copies). I haven't done HoH but as someone recent;y posteed, SB on the ghosty makees me shake my head. I can only imagine how the recipients feel . . . .

OR, A'Net/NCSoft can stuff our i/g stockings with a 40% axe, removed rockm older, HoD sword and some dwarven brew/ Well, a few Dwarven brews.

Hey, come on, I'm Irish!!!

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

there is many way to remove something from database. not really need to do all the removal at once,

but instead they can just add a line of code in the game which will trigger auto trash the axe once a player used it.

boxcarracers052

boxcarracers052

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Cellmates

Mo/Me

I agree this should be taken out, BUT LET ME SELL MINE FIRST!

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

I'm 99% sure that this will be nerfed, much like the HoD Ascalon Bow was nerfed. For those of you that don't remember that lesser known one, if you had one pre-SF update, when you downloaded the update GW permanently changed the bow to another type with other mods.

This will likely be the case, in that the axe will allow you to have one grip on it at a time, and it will be one of the enchanting mods.

If you have these axes (or the axe grips of enchanting that are in such high of demand) - SELL THEM NOW!!!!

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Even if it is not nerfed....i would suggest selling asap for each person that has it. The will be such surplus if they dont delete it that prices will plummet cause everyoen will have one. And if they nerf it and not delete it, there are so many in existence it wont really matter. nefing will just mean that within 3-4 weeeks oif the nerf axe grip prices will drop. Thus dropping the price of the axe. I sold a 40% the other day easy for 40 ecto...had trouble selling 40% yesterday for 30 ecto because everyone has one. And this was spamming evewrywhere for quiet a long time. The grip prices have peaked and will level out and drop a bit soon. Simple economics.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Its rediculous how much i sold my 39% one for friday/early saturday.... 100k + 60 ectos in ascalon to a farmer that wanted one for his monk. These are goign for about the same in LA.

I have a 38% and a 40% one, as well as a +60 and a +30/+5 armor. These all work incredibly well, but i agree that they are way too overpowered. we actually knew about them for a while and ran them in pvp builds, hoping that this wouldnt get out. Prot monks love these as a 31 second prot spirit or a 19 second aegis is very sweet.

edited origional post as i got my days mixed up thinkign today was sunday for some dumb reason, i apologize

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I highly doubt 39% went for that much when people are spamming WTS 39% 25 ecto and getting no replys all day. But good job trying to jack up the price before u sell yours.

Toll Booth Willie

Toll Booth Willie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

tn, usa

E/Mo

Blah I'm not even bothering to do the quest and get one.
They have to fix it or leave it at this point. Too many ppl have them already and they are way overpowered. Sorry for the people who are spending their money on them and gratz to those who are raking in the cash off selling them.
Will laugh if they end up with a non max dam axe +20% enchant that they paid 600k+ for.

No matter what action they take at this point they will lose players.

Fix the bug where only one works, people are mad they lost alot of money
Remove the item, people are mad they lost even more money and time
Leave the item in and PvP becomes unbalanced
Make them limited edition and you add one more reason for new ppl to not even bother to start this game, as if the farming nerfs weren't enough.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mack The Barbarian
I highly doubt 39% went for that much when people are spamming WTS 39% 25 ecto and getting no replys all day. But good job trying to jack up the price before u sell yours.
would u like to ask the 5 other guildies that were on when the guy joined the party and the trade was done? I can get you their IGN's if youd like.

Go stand in La d1 american and watch the useless spams for this axe with worse stats going for about the same price.

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

[QUOTE=MistressYichi]Its rediculous how much i sold my 39% one for yesterday.... 100k + 60 ectos in ascalon to a farmer that wanted one for his monk. These are goign for about the same in LA.QUOTE]

Go to LA before you make stupid comments like that.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Dark Alley [dR]

Umm i was. for like 3 hours last night. so was another 7 members of the guild selling/giving away stuff that we no longer needed. so yes i can say that they went for that high, as i sold one, 2 other guildies sold one. and that wasnt what the price was set at, it was what we were offered.

there were 5 other guildmates in my party as we had just ran a new guildmate to lions arch on his 3rd char. So yes i do have validation because a guildmate of mine took screens of what his sold for. In ascalon, i was giving away useless things that i didnt need and buying unid'd axes trying for enchanting grips. had another guildmate doign the same thing in my party and a few others online. they all saw what i was offered for it and came to watch the trade.

but your welcome to keep wasting my time with things that just because you dont agree or were there to see it, automatically it isnt true.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toll Booth Willie
Leave the item in and PvP becomes unbalanced
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not quite true.

one change in code not allowing them to be equipped in arenas.

after the hysteria goes down you have a nice gold sink that has no effect on pvp

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Hey go try to sell one now. Last night i saw 3 auctions of people spamming 40% for sale for 40 ecto ....one sold...mine. The other 2 i asked them if they got any hits for the 40 ecto and they said no. That was around 7-10:00pm CST. Today the 38% axe...which was anywhere from 100k and 5 ecto to 100k and 10 ecto yesterday...was being spammed in LA for 130k. Now you tell me that prices arent dropping on these faster than expected. I hope peopel didnt invest too much.

Yichi

Yichi

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Dark Alley [dR]

As i said, Mine was sold early saturday when the axe grips were going insane in price, i dont knwo what they are going for today or late last night, btu this was the cast late friday night/early saturday morning when i sold mine. heres proof from earlier in the thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jtchans
This is sick:

Now if someone had 2 of those on that axe, its very easy to see why someone who didnt knwo better would offer the amount that i had offered for mine. I posted mine because i needed some cash to buy a rune for my ranger, i was no where near expecting to get what i did for it.

(edited origional post as i got my days mixed up. i sold mine early saturday morning/late friday night, whatever at around 5am Central time)

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Now go ask the guy is anyone has bought that grip. I JUST asked a guy whos spamming WTS 40% enchant axe for the past 2 days what his highest offer he has gotten...100k and 23 ecto. I can go ingame and say "selling 40% axe for 100k and 70 ecto" doesnt mean anyone gonna buy it. And no one will. I have also seen 20% grips going for 100k today. 19% 70k

Yichi

Yichi

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Dark Alley [dR]

I never spammed that amount is what im saying. thats what someone offered me for mine. 2 other guildmated recieved similar offers when they posted theirs for sale. This is my exact comment:

WTS 39% enchanting axe. wisp offer

that was all. I was expecting to get maybe 30-40k for it just simply because of the enchanting grips. I was never asking for the price i recieved for it

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

Vokur's Staff for 50k!? I bought mine today for 7k plus 250 Wood and 8 Vellum .

greenlantern

greenlantern

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OA

Absolutely amazing, I saw the 40% axe on Friday for the first time and asked how this was possible. The guy said it was a bugged drop, of coarse I didn't believe him because it was blue and was low dmg. I went and researched it and found that it could be made. I have a few unmodded and a few modded so, I’m not out a lot if they just remove the axe. My prediction is that they will Nerf the axe (I'm guessing Thursday with the Christmas update[updates seem to always be on Thursday]) by allowing only one haft, this will be done to all of them in the game IMO.

I can’t believe how fast ppl found out about this and went crazy over the weekend, and now it’s almost over.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Dark Alley [dR]

good. now maybe i can buy an axe grip for a normal price... i spent like 100k on unid'd axes tryign to get enchanting grips, luckly i did get a 19 and an 18 so i have another axe before they get rid of it

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Yeah soon they will be back to normal. 39% axe was 30 ecto 40% 40 ecto but guy said he's beeen trying to sell for 40 ecto for 2 days now with no luck.

Neverind....Just saw 40% ench axe...b/o 250k. And this was being spammed so no one took him up on that offer too quick.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
I'm 99% sure that this will be nerfed, much like the HoD Ascalon Bow was nerfed. For those of you that don't remember that lesser known one, if you had one pre-SF update, when you downloaded the update GW permanently changed the bow to another type with other mods.
*glances at his two HoD bows with their natural +10 armor*

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Oh, and I finally completed my +10 armor axe

5k for each axe grip so if it gets destroyed, it's only a 10k loss which is easy enough to make back.

If it doesn't get destroyed, I'm on my way to gear better than what I have (Morgriff's Staff).

DarkZeal

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/Me

Well I myself made 2 +38%s for about 100k total in grips. Traded one for a perfect Longsword, so at least I got my initial investment back.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

What I find curious is the people who have "concerns" about this exploit (let's call it for what it is shall we?) happen to have the axes themselves, or sold them, or modded them and so forth.

Stealthy Trapper

Stealthy Trapper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Cincinnati, Ohio

Knights Assassins [Kill]

R/

oh and not to mention that axe grips of enchantings are starting to go through the roof in prices. I have seen even ones as low as 15% go for 100k in the past few days. its insane, here we go again.

The Yoink

The Yoink

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Knights of the Ring

Mo/W

now now.. the thing to do (if it is even possible) is make it so two of the same mods don't stack (so you only get a 20% enchant bonus) BUT make this particular quest item (and ONLY this quest item) salvagable...... yes, there will STILL be a collective groan, but maybe not QUITE as bad...

maybe make it possible to salvage BOTH mods from the item? Who knows? but I'm not sure how hard Anet is going to work at catering to players exploiting a bug

Eonwe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

New Jersey

Idiot Savants

All of the people who spent tons of money on these items are going to be pretty pissed when they eliminate the second grip. They're not going to simply leave it in the game.

AncientPC

AncientPC

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Ascalon 1

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eonwe
All of the people who spent tons of money on these items are going to be pretty pissed when they eliminate the second grip. They're not going to simply leave it in the game.
I don't know, has A.net ever removed an overpowered item from the game? So far they've only prevented the people from getting newer copies, but never older copies afaik.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

All I can say is, do not spend a lot of money or a lot of time trying to get this axe, for it will be gone shortly. And yes, speaking to Mike O'Brien tonight, I believe that "gone" means both newly generated as well as previously generated versions. In other words, this Uber Axe of Doooom will turn into a Nice But Normal-ish Axe in the very near (I'd say within 24-48 hours) future.

FazeDx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

i think it got nerfed. i just got it and now it read. "axe of fortitude" (dont know what kind of axe it is.) So im guesing the changed to the staying mod to be Charrslaying not Fort. Don't flame me if im wrong..

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Thanks for the post Gaile

kimo the healer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

ucsb

E/Me

better sell fast, lol.

NowTumi

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
All I can say is, do not spend a lot of money or a lot of time trying to get this axe, for it will be gone shortly. And yes, speaking to Mike O'Brien tonight, I believe that "gone" means both newly generated as well as previously generated versions. In other words, this Uber Axe of Doooom will turn into a Nice But Normal-ish Axe in the very near (I'd say within 24-48 hours) future.
cool. this kind of axe is hurting pvp so much.

herzog_zwei

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
All I can say is, do not spend a lot of money or a lot of time trying to get this axe, for it will be gone shortly. And yes, speaking to Mike O'Brien tonight, I believe that "gone" means both newly generated as well as previously generated versions. In other words, this Uber Axe of Doooom will turn into a Nice But Normal-ish Axe in the very near (I'd say within 24-48 hours) future.
straight from the horses mouth, so to speak

sirelricthemad

sirelricthemad

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Grotto

Crusaders of Valhalla [Odin]

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
All I can say is, do not spend a lot of money or a lot of time trying to get this axe, for it will be gone shortly. And yes, speaking to Mike O'Brien tonight, I believe that "gone" means both newly generated as well as previously generated versions. In other words, this Uber Axe of Doooom will turn into a Nice But Normal-ish Axe in the very near (I'd say within 24-48 hours) future.
Finally we can return to some sense of normalcy Thanks for the confirmation Gaile.