+40% axe better than HoD?
Vhayr
I was under the impression that the +15% damage always weapons were intentional.
DarkZeal
They were beta test weapons that people kept, Anet didn't remove them when the game launched to the public.
CKaz
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Originally Posted by devilru
Could this mean that Emo's will return seeing as Ether renewal will last for a decent amount of time with this axe?
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CKaz
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Originally Posted by Whispering Siren
tell you one thing - i am going to closely inspect every single quest item i get from now on...
who knows how many items out there are bugged like is? |
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Caleb The Pontiff
In the context of my original message, it was clear to me that when they state "While at this time we do not have a specific time frame for a fix to this issue, you can be certain that it will be addressed." they are stating that the currently circulating axes will be addressed. . |
they stopped new from entering the game.
they did not yank or nerf existing ones in circulation.
they dont even consider it big enough an issue to pull it from circulation as i just got one
CKaz
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Originally Posted by DarkZeal
They were beta test weapons that people kept, Anet didn't remove them when the game launched to the public.
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And then they have GvG that is supposed to be a level playing field, while having this and other items existing but no longer available
Epinephrine
I still find it disgusting that ANet would remove the ability to get something without removing the copies in existence.
Either leave something in or kill all copies - don't make "limited edition" weapons worth a fortune. Remove all HoD, Scavenger axes etc...
Either leave something in or kill all copies - don't make "limited edition" weapons worth a fortune. Remove all HoD, Scavenger axes etc...
Maxiemonster
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
I still find it disgusting that ANet would remove the ability to get something without removing the copies in existence.
Either leave something in or kill all copies - don't make "limited edition" weapons worth a fortune. Remove all HoD, Scavenger axes etc... |
Draeco_Smash
Just looking at this thread...
so can anyone tell me what A net finally did to nerf this???
thnx
so can anyone tell me what A net finally did to nerf this???
thnx
Whispering Siren
nothing, yet. (to my knowledge)...
people are speculating that when business opens on monday (pacific time) - there will be a fix. what will they do? we can only guess.
people are speculating that when business opens on monday (pacific time) - there will be a fix. what will they do? we can only guess.
Caleb
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
substitute overpowered HOD sword for axe.
they stopped new from entering the game. they did not yank or nerf existing ones in circulation. they dont even consider it big enough an issue to pull it from circulation as i just got one |
To not see the difference there is amazing. At this point it's all conjecture and opinion, so I will step out of the thread until we see Anet's official response via update, hopefully tomorrow.
Former Ruling
:\ People need money sinks - they wont remove stuff like this totally.
I'm interested in next year already.
When Halloween comes back around and the Horseman either come back to sell their Mad King wares again, or the price of said items will go UP UP UP during that season.
You'd think by the millionth time an item has became limited that people wouldnt care, especially if it isn't game breakingly broken. But in another game, they did a test. There was this useless item barely anyone cared to even keep when they completed the little "quest" to get it. Much like the silly quest rewards in Guild Wars - Merchant fonder. All they did was Sticky a post on their official forums on their site that the item was no longer going to be given upon completion of said task, and not only that, but existing ones no longer have any effect. People like Who cares right? Nope...In ten minutes, the item has the 5th most expensive item in the game. about 15 minutes later they erased that post and repalced it saying that it was just a hoax to test the market.
my Money sink thoery is proven already - an hour after SoA Axes became public knowledge - You couldnt get Enchant mods for under 100k...At even the NOTION of having something that might get nerfed later on and helps - They didnt hesitate to drop their entire bank accounts to get them. Ectos were selling all over the palce, and they were down 2k in the trader. I dont know about today though.
I'm interested in next year already.
When Halloween comes back around and the Horseman either come back to sell their Mad King wares again, or the price of said items will go UP UP UP during that season.
You'd think by the millionth time an item has became limited that people wouldnt care, especially if it isn't game breakingly broken. But in another game, they did a test. There was this useless item barely anyone cared to even keep when they completed the little "quest" to get it. Much like the silly quest rewards in Guild Wars - Merchant fonder. All they did was Sticky a post on their official forums on their site that the item was no longer going to be given upon completion of said task, and not only that, but existing ones no longer have any effect. People like Who cares right? Nope...In ten minutes, the item has the 5th most expensive item in the game. about 15 minutes later they erased that post and repalced it saying that it was just a hoax to test the market.
my Money sink thoery is proven already - an hour after SoA Axes became public knowledge - You couldnt get Enchant mods for under 100k...At even the NOTION of having something that might get nerfed later on and helps - They didnt hesitate to drop their entire bank accounts to get them. Ectos were selling all over the palce, and they were down 2k in the trader. I dont know about today though.
AncientPC
Ectos are 8.5k / 11k at trader.
I spent quite a bit of money buying HoD swords (I've only played for two months, so by the time I started playing they were extinct). I would be extremely pissed if A.net removed them with no compensation.
In fact, these axes are crapping all over my HoD swords and they have lost their value which in turn means I'm losing money.
I spent quite a bit of money buying HoD swords (I've only played for two months, so by the time I started playing they were extinct). I would be extremely pissed if A.net removed them with no compensation.
In fact, these axes are crapping all over my HoD swords and they have lost their value which in turn means I'm losing money.
eom
ahahahahaha!!
edit ps
that must have been hilarious after some guy spent his whole bank on one.
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Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Nope...In ten minutes, the item has the 5th most expensive item in the game. about 15 minutes later they erased that post and repalced it saying that it was just a hoax to test the market.
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that must have been hilarious after some guy spent his whole bank on one.
Maxiemonster
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Originally Posted by eom
ahahahahaha
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Tigris Of Gaul
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Originally Posted by DarkZeal
They were beta test weapons that people kept, Anet didn't remove them when the game launched to the public.
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Racthoh
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Originally Posted by SirJackassIII
I just tried something out, I don't know if it was done before.
The collector outside Nolani Academy offered a similar Staff (Cruel Staff of Fortitude, +20 HP, +25% damage vs Charr) so I tried slapping 2 cheap staff wrappings on to see if it would work. It doesn't. So basically, the Axe is the only one doing that, making it bugged. It could very well be due to the value of the Charrslaying mod that it failed though. I've also noticed there are 2 hammers outside Ascalon that also have similar mods, might be worth my time checking those out as well. Although even if those work in the same way, they are still inferior to the axe. |
Interesting how with this axe you can basically make yourself a second shield vs physical or magical. I imagine having +14AL against the elements might make it easier to heal against a spike in some circumstances. Laugh at IWAY when you're sitting there with +14AL against they're axes... and their pets.
diablo96789
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Originally Posted by perfect
I'm pretty sure that if you stick two 20% enchant mods on it that you dont get a 40% longer enchant, just 2 chances at a 20% longer.
Make sure you understand that before blowing all your money on it. |
Geirroed
Another possibility to "fix" this issue would be to make these axes (or all questitems, if they can't keep track of those specific ones) PvE-only just as you can't put your PvP-Weapons in your storage.
This wouldn't render them completly useless (a lot less valuable though), but make PvP balanced again.
Just my 2 cents...
Greetings Geirröd
This wouldn't render them completly useless (a lot less valuable though), but make PvP balanced again.
Just my 2 cents...
Greetings Geirröd
Ensign
Each of the enchanting mods affects the enchantment separately, adding N seconds to the enchantment. Then Blessed Aura affects this overall, modified duration.
16 Divine Spellbreaker (18 seconds base) with Blessed Aura works as follows with the axe:
18s * 1.20 = 21.6 rounds to 22 seconds, for +4 seconds from the enchanting part. With two 20% parts, each adds +4 seconds for 26 seconds base.
Blessed Aura works on that rounded, 26 second figure. At 37% longer enchantments, that's a 35.62, rounded to 36 second Spellbreaker.
Peace,
-CxE
16 Divine Spellbreaker (18 seconds base) with Blessed Aura works as follows with the axe:
18s * 1.20 = 21.6 rounds to 22 seconds, for +4 seconds from the enchanting part. With two 20% parts, each adds +4 seconds for 26 seconds base.
Blessed Aura works on that rounded, 26 second figure. At 37% longer enchantments, that's a 35.62, rounded to 36 second Spellbreaker.
Peace,
-CxE
Mahanaxar
If they don't remove it COMPLETELY asap, they will definitely lose their very little credibility left about arguments like "game balance" and "economy balance".
dansamy
36s spellbreaker. Imagine 3 monks echoing spellbreaker. That's 6 spellbreakers on the team. Each one lasting 36s. For 30s, spells against 75% of your team will fail. Add in 2 Aegis for a 50% chance to block attacks.
menelik_seth
So wats a HoD sword? Sorry for the question, I'm just having a hard time keeping up with all these acronyms the pros use.
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vv--- Thanks Loviatar for the Answer boy do I feel foolish lol
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vv--- Thanks Loviatar for the Answer
boy do I feel foolish lol
Loviatar
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So wats a HoD sword? Sorry for the question, I'm just having a hard time keeping up with all these acronyms the pros use.
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Henge of Denravi
eom
something like Henge of Denravi --- it's where you got the sword before they nerfed it.`
I think it has a built in +5 energy on top of the 2 mods you can put on.
plus, it's a discontinued item, so people pay big dough for it.
I think it has a built in +5 energy on top of the 2 mods you can put on.
plus, it's a discontinued item, so people pay big dough for it.
Draeco_Smash
Guess Im gonna have to get myself atleast two just incase it turns out like the
HoD sword....
HoD sword....
eom
hah! did you put that on there?
what other kinds of hafts are there?
the prefix is a haft, right?
what other kinds of hafts are there?
the prefix is a haft, right?
Sereng Amaranth
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Originally Posted by OrangeArrow
 60 hp axe is possible blah its harder to get junk axe mods then you think and it seems that on those axes after the 2 orginal axe mods that the last 2 applied axe mods stay on the axe |
mehot
This game started to blow. The price for item is ridiculous. How a noob like me can get any thing with the price like 200k for a 20% enchant axe upgrade becuase some moron come up with this. Seriously do i have to ebay to play the game. GOOD BY all and gl to yall. ps
m me if u want my ectosssss
m me if u want my ectosssss
pearhk
luckily i still didnt made/bought one (actually i cant afford the grips.... 
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i "sensed" ANet will delete this axe like some ppl in this thread do
for those who still think this axe wont be removed
becoz HoD sword, permanant dmg weapons still exist
pls identify whats a BUG and an exploit is
HoD sword and permanent dmg bouns are NOT bugs imo
)i "sensed" ANet will delete this axe like some ppl in this thread do
for those who still think this axe wont be removed
becoz HoD sword, permanant dmg weapons still exist
pls identify whats a BUG and an exploit is
HoD sword and permanent dmg bouns are NOT bugs imo
Fyre Brand
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
I still find it disgusting that ANet would remove the ability to get something without removing the copies in existence.
Either leave something in or kill all copies - don't make "limited edition" weapons worth a fortune. Remove all HoD, Scavenger axes etc... |
Red Locust
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Originally Posted by mehot
This game started to blow. The price for item is ridiculous. How a noob like me can get any thing with the price like 200k for a 20% enchant axe upgrade becuase some moron come up with this. Seriously do i have to ebay to play the game. GOOD BY all and gl to yall. ps
m me if u want my ectosssss |
The only thing this axe is going to do is piss people off for a few more seconds during the final minutes of HoH when you slap a fat spellbreaker on the ghostly. And only for a few more days, since ANet will obviously do something about this very soon.
kade
Some interesting comments here ::blushes at how many posts his thread has gotten:: A little off topic but good discussion, I think we can at least all agree that it will be interesting to see how ANet handles this situation. Personally im gonna wait it out before buying/selling any of these axes.
also,
my ign is: Kadeshi Vaygr, pm me ill hold on to your ectos til you decide to come back to the uberness that is GW
also,
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ps
m me if u want my ectosssss |
Vhayr
So you can't find the +whatever% damage always weapons any more?
I found a +14% one the other day.
I found a +14% one the other day.
Amok
yes but it probably has -5 energy or -10 armor while attacking or something no? i think the people above were talking about +% damage with no negatives
The Yoink
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Originally Posted by Vhayr
So you can't find the +whatever% damage always weapons any more?
I found a +14% one the other day. |
unienaule
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Originally Posted by Vhayr
So you can't find the +whatever% damage always weapons any more?
I found a +14% one the other day. |
Makkert
There used to be such weapons (unconditional damage). Have they been taken out of the game completely, or are they circulating like the HoD swords?
Haven't heard about them for a long time in a selling thread.
Haven't heard about them for a long time in a selling thread.
unienaule
Yes, there are still a few. The more, uh, "Common" variety is the weapons with a zealous mod on them, which back in the day glitched with the weapons that were 15/-1 so it only had -1, instead of -2. However, I do believe seeing somewhere recently a 13% always no negatives sword. I just hope they delete every last one of the glitched axes.