Zealous - what's the point?

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Barinthus
Barinthus
Krytan Explorer
#1
I fail to understand why would someone want to have a Zealous weapon.

If I understood this right - basically a Zealous weapon means while I'm wielding it my energy regen rate goes down by 1 and with every hit I land I only gain 1 energy.

Correct?

So I'd imagine for most playes this is not a good deal. The only way I can see how would someone want a Zealous weapon would be a player with a warrior profession since there's ways to increase one's attacking speed such as frenzy. But warriors don't really use energy that much, right? I wouldn't know - I deleted my warrior at level 8 and made a monk instead.

Anyway I'm curious why would people want a Zealous weapon.
MMSDome
MMSDome
Raged Out
#2
well in my line of buisness, farming, you need it. I will have up to 30 forest minatours on me at once. I spend 5 energy using cyclone axe to get 30 energy in return getting 1 energy from a hit. Zealous is the bestest
F
Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#3
Zealous is mostly for Rangers.

Beleive it or not, a ranger can get more energy from Zealous than that pip of energy..and the energy is given on a per hit basis, not per second, so its much more controlable.

It really is hard to understand the benefits until you put it in your bow and try it..

Lets take an example w/o Zealous:

32 Energy to start.
uses Dual Shot at full expertise decrease -4 energy.
28 energy.
Your energy regen gives you +2 energy back dudring this process.

30 energy is your final count.

With Zealous:
32 to start.
Dual shot is -4 and +2 at once, so a net of -2.
30 energy,
and you gain ~1 (1.something actually) energy back from regen.

31, almost 32, energy is your final count.


If you count that over several shots - your saving major energy.
Barinthus
Barinthus
Krytan Explorer
#4
Ahh! I didn't think of attacks that do group attacks such as those you named - cyclone axe and dual shot.

Thanks for clarifying this up

Suppose I was using dual shot with kindle arrow (forgot whether if its that or ignite, the one that does damage to nearby foes), would I get energy from kindle's damage or only dual shot's damage?
Elena
Elena
Desert Nomad
#5
only dual shot
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#6
barrage + zealous shortbow = Fun
Olfin Bedwere
Olfin Bedwere
Krytan Explorer
#7
Because of Adrenaline, Warriors start with less energy, so you have to use your energy skills to get your adrenaline skills going. That`s why warriors uses Gladiator armor for the extra energy. I only use Zealous xxx of Fortitudes.
Sol_Vie
Sol_Vie
Desert Nomad
#8
Heh, Hundred Blades is another way to gain energy... It strikes each enemy twice as compared to the one time Cyclone hits. (I'm also looking for a zealous sword hilt if anyone has one. Whisper me please. Sorry for the semi-hijack)
Doctor Rhino
Doctor Rhino
Banned
#9
I like my zealous axe for farming because of cyclone and everything, but there are alot of -1 energy regen skills I want to stack with mending, and I have to take different things instead :P
master koa
master koa
Ascalonian Squire
#10
Is zealous at all good with a sword (no hundred blades). Im a w/mo that uses healing breeze for health regen.
Farin
Farin
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
I think it's a great mod. Unlike vampiric, you're actually gaining energy. If you look at it like this: Each pip of regeneration means 1 energy every 3 seconds. (.33 per second) Average, swords and axes swing every 1.5 seconds. Add a speed buff and you're practically gaining three times more energy.
g
gou
Lion's Arch Merchant
#12
zealous gives energy in the mere act of attacking, you don't have to land a hit (eg through blind)
also good for the spirit shackles mind wrack combo, as long as you don't use an energy skill you never hit 0 energy so the wrack doesn't hurt.
S
Supremacy Of Malice
Academy Page
#13
its exelent for some griffon farming builds
F
Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by gou
zealous gives energy in the mere act of attacking, you don't have to land a hit (eg through blind)
also good for the spirit shackles mind wrack combo, as long as you don't use an energy skill you never hit 0 energy so the wrack doesn't hurt.
I only gain 1 energy per actual HIT (like the mod says ingame) - So I wanna know where you are getting these super-zealous mods o_O
Epinephrine
Epinephrine
Master of Beasts
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaZoO
I think it's a great mod. Unlike vampiric, you're actually gaining energy. If you look at it like this: Each pip of regeneration means 1 energy every 3 seconds. (.33 per second) Average, swords and axes swing every 1.5 seconds. Add a speed buff and you're practically gaining three times more energy.
Axes and swords swing at 1/1.33seconds., so you sacrifice .33 energy per second to get .75 energy per second, a gain of .42 energy per second, or 1.26 pips. If you use a speed buff to hit every .888 seconds it is even better, but you need to pay off the speed buff too.
Shimus DarkRaven
Shimus DarkRaven
Desert Nomad
#16
All math aside, all extra hits aside..why would someone want it? More simply, while two pips IS steady, people are greedy and want more mana, faster, when it matters. It's not that hard to understand! ^_^

--The Shim
VGJustice
VGJustice
Desert Nomad
#17
A Zealous mod mixed with any attack increasing abbility (Tiger's Fury, Flurry, Frenzy, Lightning Reflexes, etc.) will dramaticly boost your energy recovery. You don't need a melee area attack for the energy boost, just boost your attack speed. 2 birds with 1 stone!
Dahnel
Dahnel
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by VGJustice
A Zealous mod mixed with any attack increasing abbility (Tiger's Fury, Flurry, Frenzy, Lightning Reflexes, etc.) will dramaticly boost your energy recovery. You don't need a melee area attack for the energy boost, just boost your attack speed. 2 birds with 1 stone!
dont forget the overflowing adrenaline to ... 3 birds !
VGJustice
VGJustice
Desert Nomad
#19
how could I forget! :O
Barinthus
Barinthus
Krytan Explorer
#20
Sweet. I definitely will have to experiment with Zealous stuff when I get the opportunity. However what about caster types? Examples has been given for warriors and rangers. What about a healing monk? An elementalist? Mesmer?

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