Candy Canes

Dixie Wrecked2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

GODS

If you haven't noticed, and I'm sure you have, the last couple of days people have been going crazy for Winter items, mostly the special weapons and candy cane shards. What I haven't been able to understand, is why people are paying so much money for these things. They're so simple to acquire, and don't take much time at all to find. I've made over 25,000 in 2 days of playing from selling candy cane shards alone. People are buying them for 500-1000. I havent been on in 2 days, so im sure the price is much lower now, if they're still even being sold.
Another thing I havent come to understand is why people arent going crazy for Candy Canes. A candy cane removes your death penalty while in battle. I dont know about you, but when I'm in the UW or FoW and we accidently attack too many guys, me, as well as my teammates will end up with a 30%+ death penalty. Eating a candy cane would erase that, and that helps a lot. I'm not sure, but im forcasting that the price of a candy cane will increase greatly in the next couple of weeks/months. Hold on to them now, i bet you'll be able to get 100g a piece for these later in the game. I've managed to get about 250+ of them so far, just from killing gargoyles and grawl outside of sardelac and Surmia. 100g might not seem like a lot to some people, but for someone like me w/ only 45,000g in storage, its a lot.

So save your candy canes. I think they'll be worth a lot in the future!

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

what if they decide to remove the "remove dp" effect after winterday?

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

They won't. It's the point of the item. It's like removing the ability of eggnog to make your vision wobbly. It's not useable in PvP, so it's not a balance issue. The effect will stay.

Wasteland Squidget

Wasteland Squidget

I'm back?

Join Date: Sep 2005

Here.

Delta Formation [DF]

W/E

Hopefully not - because it makes already easy PvE that much easier. Some of my most entertaining experiences in PvE were when myself or my party were heavily DPed and had to get extremely tactical in taking down the large groups of mobs.

Vaga

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Yeah it is pretty stupid that they made PvE even easier. Whats the point of calling it a "penalty" if many players will never experience this disadvantage again. They could re-name it to the "haha you missed out on the winter event" effect.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaga
Yeah it is pretty stupid that they made PvE even easier. Whats the point of calling it a "penalty" if many players will never experience this disadvantage again.
The canes will run out, and I doubt many people will farm them constantly. Also, DP isn't crippling in PvE. PvE is easy even at 30% dp

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
and I doubt many people will farm them constantly
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randome stuff to get the board to let me post

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

You know what's reaaaally nice?

Making 180k off of this update, <3 @ having multiple accounts & 2 being in euro servers:

'WTS Candy Cane Weapons [sword, axe, wand, staff, hammer, bow!] Whisper me!'

-ten thousand whispers later- *grins at storage stuffed with gold*

greatest thing was I gunna sell for ~10k each, but people we're offering 30 and so on, sold a set for my friend and made him 175k. woo.

ecirbaf

ecirbaf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

And they are self-use only , apparently.

It's probably most useful for warriors and elementalists who need a large pool of health or energy, and where even -15% DP is detrimental. In other instances, unless your DP is really bad, the Candy Canes would be wasted.

Dixie Wrecked2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

GODS

Yes I realize PvE isnt that difficult, but in certain situations, like in FoW or the UW, DP can make gameplay slow down a lot. I'll be selling these later on, you'll see. I bet ill make 25,000+ off of 250 canes.

eom

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie Wrecked2
If you haven't noticed, and I'm sure you have, the last couple of days people have been going crazy for Winter items, mostly the special weapons and candy cane shards. What I haven't been able to understand, is why people are paying so much money for these things. They're so simple to acquire, and don't take much time at all to find. I've made over 25,000 in 2 days of playing from selling candy cane shards alone. People are buying them for 500-1000. I havent been on in 2 days, so im sure the price is much lower now, if they're still even being sold.
Another thing I havent come to understand is why people arent going crazy for Candy Canes. A candy cane removes your death penalty while in battle. I dont know about you, but when I'm in the UW or FoW and we accidently attack too many guys, me, as well as my teammates will end up with a 30%+ death penalty. Eating a candy cane would erase that, and that helps a lot. I'm not sure, but im forcasting that the price of a candy cane will increase greatly in the next couple of weeks/months. Hold on to them now, i bet you'll be able to get 100g a piece for these later in the game. I've managed to get about 250+ of them so far, just from killing gargoyles and grawl outside of sardelac and Surmia. 100g might not seem like a lot to some people, but for someone like me w/ only 45,000g in storage, its a lot.

So save your candy canes. I think they'll be worth a lot in the future!

well, I must have killed 1000 monsters w/o a cc shard drop, so i gave up and bought all mine, if that answers your initial question.
secondly, people are farming the f*** out of candy canes, and they are already worth 100 at the very least.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by eom
well, I must have killed 1000 monsters w/o a cc shard drop, so i gave up and bought all mine, if that answers your initial question.
secondly, people are farming the f*** out of candy canes, and they are already worth 100 at the very least.
1000 monsters? WHAT...

I killed Charr for maybe an hour, and Got ~12 Shards. Used all the Charr carvings on gifts, and got ~4 shards from the gifts..

And I consider my runs alittle unlucky at some points..

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

FYI...outside surmia is the best place for shards and items that wintersday collectors want

eom

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

ok, probably wasn't 1000.

killed big packs of grawl 3 times outside sardelac, then a bunch of stone elementals after the grawl stopped spawning.

went to piken and chewed up a few screens of charr to althea's ashes.

not one drop.

28 carvings, though.

opened about a dozen gifts w/no shards.

Mo/R9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Gold Coast, Australia

Mo/R

Ok, I'll admit it, I'm one of those ignorant people who hasn't played Guild Wars for months and needs to be told how the snowman quest works. I also have no idea about how to aquire candy cane shards. I have searched the wonderful internet a few times, but have failed to find anything to aid me. Can anyone assist me?

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=98115

Mo/R9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Gold Coast, Australia

Mo/R

Oops. Dunno how I missed that, thanks.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghostlyranger
what if they decide to remove the "remove dp" effect after winterday?
Oh, because you only really need the candy cane with those Enchanted Snowmen hench since they stink so bad?

gotenks

gotenks

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

None

W/R

well they are already going for 100g+.. If I manage to get some I wont even look to use them before the expansion.. I might need them at that time for that new beacons - droks kind run or may be new areas like UW, FoW or SF

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

They make a nice addition to my monk's inventory

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

been farming these a lot over wintersday. I have almost a whole 10 slot bag full of stacks of 250 of these. i got one more to go they come in handy for idiot pugs in places liek THK or Fissure....

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Well I have to say it's, unfortunately, already beginning. I was in a FoW group last night, some of us died and were res'd. Somewhere along the way I (or someone) talked about the candy canes removing DP.

Now instead of being a decent team player, helping the team become more effective again/remove the DP, one guy decides so kindly to offer candy canes for 250g. Sigh. Ok it's peanuts given the area, but still, how incredibly selfish. I didn't have any on me at the time, but I didn't pay for it for want of not encouraging this lameness. It sits right up there with people trying to scam others to continue missions or monks who won't heal unless paid. I really hope this doesn't continue, I know people are greedy selfish sob's but that took the biscuit.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

i was doing a fow run the other day after they came out. we had this HORRID necro that just did nothign but be an aggro monkey and died a lot. I gave him a whole stack of them and said here, youll need these.

I always carry them with me now as they can be very useful. the hint is to not use them al lthe time. only use them when you have 30% or more dp as 15% isnt all that harming to you. it is a setback, but not life threatening.

AxeMe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Atlanta

HEX

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenrath
Well I have to say it's, unfortunately, already beginning. I was in a FoW group last night, some of us died and were res'd. Somewhere along the way I (or someone) talked about the candy canes removing DP.

Now instead of being a decent team player, helping the team become more effective again/remove the DP, one guy decides so kindly to offer candy canes for 250g. Sigh. Ok it's peanuts given the area, but still, how incredibly selfish. I didn't have any on me at the time, but I didn't pay for it for want of not encouraging this lameness. It sits right up there with people trying to scam others to continue missions or monks who won't heal unless paid. I really hope this doesn't continue, I know people are greedy selfish sob's but that took the biscuit.
Actually I agree with you but I even feel rotten it comes time to use a key in FOW. I usually have plenty of keys since chests there seem to be worthwhile. When people offer to pay, I accept the money. But - in almost every case - I'll receive whispers from at least one person with no gold asking for a key. It's impossible for me to turn them down.

razorback fossil

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

Dark Angels of Destruction

E/Mo

i got like 50 candy canes from farming in ascalon for the grawl necklaces and gargoyle skulls from the presents maybe later that day still had them went to uw with some guildies and some other people we almost cleared out like 99% of uw before one of us had to go (i love candy canes) whenever one of us died didn't use any until we got to 60% dp then we got rid of about half with candy canes and then worked the other part off they are good so in uw, fow, and sf i ain't greedy specially if it can get me the drops it did in uw my group got like almost 2-3 ectos each throughout hte whole area and the gold alone was good like 1k in gold and then the items brought in another 2-3k but ya the candy canes are good for when you got like 45-60% dp never use them if you have less just my thought for em

Lashyr

Lashyr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Netherlands

Guardians of the Grail [GotG]

E/Mo

Razorback fossil use punctuation marks, thats what they are for.
I usually farm outside Bergen Hotsprings in Nebo Terrace and the Cursed Lands. I farm for Decayed Orr Emblems which are 3 for one winteritem. It takes some time but the udead are fun to kill, better than charrs, and sometimes even dorp other nice things.

Apple

Apple

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Mo

hint for candy cane farmers?

Decayed orr emblems, GoK...

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I got 101 and still counting... should i stock up on eggnogs too?

Jade

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

I'm trying to stock up on at least 250 spiked eggnog so I can throw one hella big New Years bash. I should be able to keep most people happy with 250, don't you think? That and I want to see if I can drink enough to make my monk pass out.

Total Disfunction

Total Disfunction

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Alabama USA

Onslaught Of Hero's [XoO]

There is an Item you can trade 2 of for 1 winter item and I get 20 a run!

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

I just managed to get 250 candy canes, going to stock up some more for later.

nirhan shadowmauler

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

potland,oregon

Through the eyes of the dragon [eyes]

E/W

if spiked eggnog is like dwarven ale i dunno. i drank about 100 once on my warrior and all it did was really RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up my monitor for an hour.

Mo/R9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Gold Coast, Australia

Mo/R

Hey guys, just wondering, have the shards stopped dropping? I've been killing stuff in all of the places (cleared an entire zone of charr and grawl) that people have said they drop frequently in, yet I have received nothing for my effort, not a single shard has dropped. If anyone could spare a few shards for a wand to go with my gingerbread focus, I'd really appreciate it.

yangster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Asian Syndicate

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo/R9
Hey guys, just wondering, have the shards stopped dropping? I've been killing stuff in all of the places (cleared an entire zone of charr and grawl) that people have said they drop frequently in, yet I have received nothing for my effort, not a single shard has dropped. If anyone could spare a few shards for a wand to go with my gingerbread focus, I'd really appreciate it.
Do some gargoyle runs. I always get a couple of shards during those runs.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by yangster
Do some gargoyle runs. I always get a couple of shards during those runs.
i just got 3 shards so they are still dropping

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

yep get about 13 skulls(13 candy canes) and 2-3 shards per run.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

There are a few in my guild that are stockpiling candy canes in anticipation of the price going up. I've got enough for myself, mostly for fissure/UW runs, or when I go henching to skill cap.

And yes, I feel bad for anyone who misses out on these candy canes. But their loss will be someone elses gain.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

Working on my second stack of 250, although I cant see myself using them that often. Probably sell them when the price hits around say... 2k ?

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

I've always found gargoyle runs outside Nolani Academy to be the best, since the collector only takes 1 skull per item in Ascalon, and that is a good ratio

I take my ranger, and it is really quite fun ... EoE bombing FTW!

Ranger/Mo:
Barrage
Dodge
Whirling Defense
Lightning Reflexes
Storm Chaser
Edge of Extinction
Troll Unguent
Holy Veil

Attribs are something like:
Marks (whatever is required for your bow) mine is 10
BM 8 (i switch to a +4 superior BM mask to cast spirit, then switch back)
Wilderness 10+
Expertise 10+

(sorry I don't have exact build, i'm at work! )

Basically I do two groups, the ones at the bottom of the first stairs and the little boss that's there, then move on to the ones to the north. You want to spam troll unguent (as surprisingly enough, the short conjure phantasms will wear away at you after a while), dodge when you're not burdened to move a bit faster, and once you get a group balled up nice and close, I throw on the BM mask, cast EoE, then switch back to my marks. mask and barrage the closest, clustered group ... once you kill 4 or 5 (usually 2 or 3 shots at most with barrage) the rest just domino and die.

Average 3-4 candy cane shards a run, 16-25 skulls a run, with the average run taking in the 3-5 minute range.

And yes, to someone's post a few back: candy canes are *very* useful in the UW and FoW when you have a crummy PUG ... plus they give you minty fresh breath

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Iowerth
I've always found gargoyle runs...
I do exactly what you do except I carry Live Vacariously, Conjure Phantasm is no longer a problem when you heal +-40HP per Barrage. Its Imagined Burden that gives me the most problems, makes this run at least a minute longer. I've considered bringing Hex Breaker just because of it.

One thing that bothers me about EoE though, if it kills gargoyles that you havent aggroed they wont drop anything.