DDOS Attack

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Yeah, our server is under a DDOS attack so just make yourself and me feel better while inserting your very own curse word here to describe people that do this.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I was wondering what was going on. it's holding up pretty well though.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Yeah, sadly give it a few minutes. You'll get a Page Cannot be Displayed error.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

I got a 404 once. Other times it was just really slow loading times and the forum's skin would sometimes "vanish", making it look highly white and unprofessional.

Kaleb_Thunderblade

Kaleb_Thunderblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Europe

The order of F.u.b.a.r.

W/Me

Oo' that would explain the Time outs i have been geting.

kill the attackers!

art_

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hmm. Wondering who has a grudge against gwg.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Inde

how much do you want to bet it is a script kiddie with a grudge at being banned?

i think *script kiddie* is a good curse word

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by art_
Hmm. Wondering who has a grudge against gwg.
*looks at GWOnlinet* ;O ! lol, just kidding.

And for whoever doesn't know what DDOS means, well, there's quite a few definitions:

# A type of denial of service attack in which an attacker uses malicious code installed on various computers to attack a single target. An attacker may use this method to have a greater effect on the target than is possible with a single attacking machine.

# On the Internet, a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack is one in which a multitude of compromised systems attack a single target, thereby causing denial of service for users of the targeted system. The flood of incoming messages to the target system essentially forces it to shut down, thereby denying service to the system to legitimate users.

# Distributed DoS, denial of service attack made simultaneously from various directions

# A denial of service (DoS) attack floods a network with an overwhelming amount of traffic, slowing its response time for legitimate traffic or grinding it to a halt completely. The more common attacks use built-in “features” of the TCP/IP protocol to create exponential amounts of network traffic.

# A denial-of-service attack (also, DoS attack) is an attack on a computer system or network that causes a loss of service to users, typically the loss of network connectivity and services by consuming the bandwidth of the victim network or overloading the computational resources of the victim system.

^^ Explains the 250+ Guests on the forums right now? Lol ;\

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

If we were a low-budget place running on the admin's lappy, then is it possible that you could trace the IP address back to the source? Norton's Firewall does that. If it successfully blocks an attack, it gives you the IP address (and even a general location, if memory serves).

Maybe GW Ogaming is it? Or maybe some bum who just hates all MMORPGs because he got scammed back in his EQ Golden Years.

art_

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
Inde

how much do you want to bet it is a script kiddie with a grudge at being banned?

i think *script kiddie* is a good curse word
How many people have access to enough host computers to bring down the site. Considering this site is barely ever down in my experience in comparison to gwo, the server mustn't be near max load most of the time.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

LOL, stay away from the site feedback forum!!! I like people who think that No, we have our share of problems just like any other site. Some weeks are good, others are bad.

art_

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

lol XD

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldin
If we were a low-budget place running on the admin's lappy, then is it possible that you could trace the IP address back to the source? Norton's Firewall does that. If it successfully blocks an attack, it gives you the IP address (and even a general location, if memory serves).

Maybe GW Ogaming is it? Or maybe some bum who just hates all MMORPGs because he got scammed back in his EQ Golden Years.
That sort of information could (should?) be in the WHM (WebHost Manager) of GWGuru.com...

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

Hmm. Anyway, had another 404 moment a while ago. Apparently 'tis still going in bursts. Nice technical conversation about this thread, though.
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A good word would be ACFanboi, or Association Conflicts Fanboy. AC is the new arch enemy of Guild Wars. 'Tis like GW but on a smaller scale.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Yes, it is happening in bursts. I'll keep you all updated though

TheCrazyFinn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Blood Lord

W/R

DDoS attacks are inherently immune to tracing, as they come from a large number of machines, large enough that it's impractical to block all of them.

DOS attacks can be traced and shut down easily though.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Arghhhh death to the hackers!

Vel Satis

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

No guild as yet

Someone posted an interesting thread about a back door into UW just before the site went down which is now gone, is this a result of the attack?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Death to fake hackers. >.>;

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

As we continue to work on it... good news. It's not us they hate L2Guru is the focus. Of course, it doesn't help us but hey, I'm just glad it wasn't someone from GWG. Focus on the positive!

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

I'm guessing someone on another fan site doesn't like how well loves GWguru is.

I'd look at recently banned members if i was you Inde.

Whoever it is, it's not funny and is ruining Chippmas stop it now.

EDIT: bah i pressed the post button 20 minutes ago

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

Death to the old Internet which allows abuse, you could avoid with new network systems.

I think computer usage with Internet connection should require some kind of "driving license" so there wouldn't be that much security issues to exploit because people would realize to update their firewalls, operating system, virus and spyware scanners, etc.

Also death to the stupid abusers who don't realize to focus their attacks to the targets which would cause larger, maybe global attention. Usually only script kiddies tease relatively small sites because they can't do better. :roll:

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Some guy really doesn't want any people to be able to overbid him lol. How many hours left in the auction? 16?

What do we do next?

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

sad to hear.
Best of luck to all, especially Inde.
Someone aparantly has nothing better to do then bring a non-commercial fansite hard times.
Sadness to the maximum.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Damn.. You seriously need a better provider

My brother's site got DDOS'ed too, and the provider where he used to be got lots of damage to the system. But at his new provider (XS4all), he gets DDOS'ed all the time, but he never had any problems at all.

schutz

schutz

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

wales

W/Me

Script Kiddies!

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

DDOS attacks have brought down even large sites such as MSN, Yahoo, Microsoft.com. It should be over, but sometimes a server can only take so much.

Ray

Ray

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Denmark

F***ing S*** **** * ** * **** * *** ** * * *!!!!!"¤#"%% ** *f*** S** B****.

STOP IT! I want a fast loading site, not slowpoking >;/

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Inde and all the mods.. could it be peoples that you guys banned and just feel like being a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing moron and trying to hack the guru site?

Its not a solid theory or proof, but most of the time hacker do this for fun or for revenge!

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Yes Sir, we share a server with l2guru. Apparently someone got banned over there and threw a temper tantrum.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

i hate hackers... why can't you geeks or nerds or whatever you are.. go away and learn something useful.. before i find your dumbasses and beat you to Iraq!

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Well, I can think of several adjectives ... but most of them would probably look something like this:

GO RED ENGINE GO RED ENGINE GO RED ENGINE GO

... so i'll just make it simple and a tad more polite by saying:

GET A LIFE YOU LOSER! (to whoever DDOS'ed us)

That is all

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher
i hate hackers... why can't you geeks or nerds or whatever you are.. go away and learn something useful.. before i find your dumbasses and beat you to Iraq!
The problem of DDOS is the fact that everyone can do it. If you try searching for a DDOS program for 30 minutes, you'll find one, and can bring down sites with ease. This is how all those stupid guys react to getting banned for example.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

GWG shares with most, if not all Guru sites, I guess. WoW...perhaps? WoW is full of whiners, since it's the most popular MMORPG - bringing forth higher chances for idiots to go crazy. If you can trace the IP of the attacker, maybe have the L2 admin search member profiles for that IP (you can do so in the admin control panel) and see if there's one. That can be done with IPB. I'm not sure if we run on invision...

Sendai

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

question: how many machines are used to create a ddos attack ? can't you just block (firewall) the ip used by theses machines ?

art_

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldin
GWG shares with most, if not all Guru sites, I guess. WoW...perhaps? WoW is full of whiners, since it's the most popular MMORPG - bringing forth higher chances for idiots to go crazy. If you can trace the IP of the attacker, maybe have the L2 admin search member profiles for that IP (you can do so in the admin control panel) and see if there's one. That can be done with IPB. I'm not sure if we run on invision...
Isn't invision just a different forum software? this being vBulletin. Or am i getting totally confused again ^^

DvM

DvM

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Vlaardingen, The Netherlands

Survivor Squad[SS]

sorry i did not read everything, but what is a DDOS attack? in simple english? My english is not that good. But is a DDOS attack something where like a script presses F5 a few 100? 1000? times a seconds on multiple computers to shut a site down as the server gets flooded with request which on time shut down the server? if so, my english is better then i thought ^^

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
Yeah, our server is under a DDOS attack so just make yourself and me feel better while inserting your very own curse word here to describe people that do this.
poo slingers

badd

badd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Philly

W/Mo

frigget hukers

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by DvM
sorry i did not read everything, but what is a DDOS attack? in simple english? My english is not that good. But is a DDOS attack something where like a script presses F5 a few 100? 1000? times a seconds on multiple computers to shut a site down as the server gets flooded with request which on time shut down the server? if so, my english is better then i thought ^^
A DDOS attack is when someone who stutters forces all Windows machines on a network to work in command-prompt-only mode.