Let us know what you think!

Spooky

Spooky

Bokusatsu Tenshi

Join Date: Dec 2004

Bellevue, WA

KEA

E/Mo

As you can see by now, we've got most of the site up. However - due to changes in the NDA, we're a bit limited on the content that we can add until the BWE rolls around, but we'd like to be prepared for it when it does happen - so I ask this:

What would you like to see added to the site?
Anything else you'd like to say about what's already there?

Crispie

Crispie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Michigan

Lords of the Dead

Mo/

Add more pics! I was pleased with the format you guys layed out for the site, but was disapointed to find that there was no pics of creatures, armors, etc! Hopefully after this next BWE you guys will have that stuff up

Cicciro

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

Looks great guys, I'll give it the indepth go over later

Darc.Syde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Spirits Of War

Me/Mo

ill post something when i got something to say...

Sausaletus Rex

Sausaletus Rex

Death From Above

Join Date: Dec 2004

Thanks for all the kind words so far.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crispie
Add more pics! I was pleased with the format you guys layed out for the site, but was disapointed to find that there was no pics of creatures, armors, etc! Hopefully after this next BWE you guys will have that stuff up Yes, screenshots are hard to come by outside of the BWEs. And even then most people are more interested in, you know, playing than in snapping shot after shot of different armors and monsters. But, don't worry, next BWE we'll be sure to gather as many as we can while the NDA is lifted. In the meantime, you can check out our gallery which we hope to add to a bit, too, in coming days.

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

Very good! But I think Marksman's Wager is supposed to be Elite. (check your skills list)

THX

THX

Before all else, be armed.

Join Date: Dec 2004

Canada

Thanks, I made it elite .

We will be updating the skills throughout the week (NDA permitting).

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

Quote:
Originally Posted by THX
Thanks, I made it elite .

We will be updating the skills throughout the week (NDA permitting).
awesome. this is probably gonna be my next "hmm i need to make a build where should i look for the skills?" site.

Reaper2k3

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

im just posting, like the old school kind of style though

Sesshomaru

Sesshomaru

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2005

The color scheme is very nice guys.
-claps-

bobert

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

TX

R/Me

awesome site, like it very much

Exception

Exception

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2005

the site is awesome. the information is detailed, and there's a lot of stuff i haven't seen on the other fansites, such as listings of the npcs in every city, and the explorable areas every city is linked to. also, navigation is clear and very well designed imo. i'm not sure if it would be a violation of the NDA, but i've always wanted to see maps to the bosses.

Spooky

Spooky

Bokusatsu Tenshi

Join Date: Dec 2004

Bellevue, WA

KEA

E/Mo

As Saus said, we'll be adding in a lot of missing images right after the BWE, so any of the places where you might see a [?] skill image (or one of the old images), it won't be that way for long.
We're going to flesh out that images for creatures as well - so hopefully they aren't feeling too camera shy - we've got a lot of shutterbugging to do.
But again - thanks for all the kind words so far. A lot of time and effort has gone into this site, but reading what people have to say has made it worth it.

BlackArrow

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

Great site guys!

I have pics of Mind Burn, Water Trident, Illusionary Weaponry, Echo, and Clumsiness for the Dec BWE if you want to use them in your skill lists. The quality might not be good enough though.

SpineLok

SpineLok

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Seattle, WA

Fantastic job fellas. I was going to post my comments on the Guild Hall forums but the thread was closed. Any how, I must say that I really appriciate all the info this site offers. I will definitely be frequenting this site for all my technical info. Keep up the great work!!

This Site ROCKS!!

Just checked out the Bosses Section... Its great, very well laid out, and I love how you have links from the boss pages to their corresponding areas in Tyra. Can't wait to see more!

Shinsei

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Denmark

Great site!

As for things i would like to see on the site....well, I've always been a big fan of the Korean flash work they all manage to overload their sites with. Would be nice to see a neat little flash menu, or a maybe just as a welcome page to the main site (not the forum). Ofcourse this is far from a priority, would just be a neat little addition. Seems like you covered all the content tbh. Good work.

IceD'Bear

IceD'Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Awoken Myth [MYTH]

Mo/

Great site by great people, I realy like it

And the arcade, whooo

The only thing I don't like about the site is the skill list, you have to click to much to see all the skill details. I prefer it the way Knight Templars have it, you can quickly browse trough skills.

Necrotic

Necrotic

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

The mists

Co-founder of Knights of the Phoenix

N/

I think you folks are doing a great job so far...I especially like the earth tones, it makes it much easier on the eyes to read here....as opposed to another forum I frequent.

LoneDust

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Good work on the contents and layout. They look really neat and clean. I'm book marking this place as well

I have to agree with IceD'Bear on the skill listing. It feels like right now the effort required to view the skills is excessive. You have to do a lot of clicking to see skill detail, and you have to open seperate tabs to compare skills from another attribute.

GhostRaptor

GhostRaptor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Brighton, UK

As expected when I found out who was helping out with this site ... great work, very detailed. Really excellent work. The only thing I'd comment on is that in many of the sections there is a lot of clicking involved to get to what you want, which isn't ideal.

Diablo

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Nice work on the site, goodluck with it.

Cicciro

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

As one of the more informative sites out there, you have already taken on quite the task. However, I offer you a challenge. One of the best fan sites for an MMORPG ever created was uo.stratics.com. Players submitted many guides over the years dedicated to each individual skill. There are tables for everything you could imagine. The site is soley informative for Ultima Online, and in my opinion, it hasn't been matched since.

Most of the information has changed over the years so a lot of the guides were updated by non-original writers or removed, but new ones have popped up.

http://uo.stratics.com

It was the official UO information site as far as the players were concerned. It was where you sent new players. It was where you went when you couldn't remember something. The forums left something to be desired, but class specific forums and skill specific forums were always topped off with as much information as you could want.

If you want to strive to reach that, I applaud you. If not, this is still a great site which I see growing greatly in the future. Good luck guys!

Narcism

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ottawa, ON, Canada

Mostly Harmless

W/

Site looks great.. though.. one of my pet peeves would be how long it takes to get to the skill database, the words are so small and similar it takes too long to find out about a skill (imo).

But great job!

Sicarius Eneco

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Belgium

Great job on the site, cept for some missing pics like menioned before. Very informative site this goes to my favorites right away.

I hope the future of this site will be very bright

Sausaletus Rex

Sausaletus Rex

Death From Above

Join Date: Dec 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cicciro
As one of the more informative sites out there, you have already taken on quite the task. However, I offer you a challenge. One of the best fan sites for an MMORPG ever created was uo.stratics.com. Players submitted many guides over the years dedicated to each individual skill. There are tables for everything you could imagine. The site is soley informative for Ultima Online, and in my opinion, it hasn't been matched since.
That's not a bad site to try and emulate, no. The problem right now though is that tricky NDA. Remember Stratics operated in an environment with a game past release. Our game here is still in development and the information we can release about it is limited. We have a wealth of information, probably the most information that any developing game has ever allowed to be made public but we can't write walkthroughs or publish mission maps and a lot of other things that we'd like to do, not until the game is released.

Not only that, the information is subject to a lot of change. Say someone wrote a guide to Ascalon City back around E3? Do you know how many changes the place has gone through since then? I don't, I can't even remember what the place was called way back when, but every time the city changed you'd have to rewrite that article. It's a lot of work to keep something like that up-to-date and I think most sites don't bother with much more than the surface information given how volitile the game still is. Why bother to really dig into things if you're not sure they'll still be the same tomorrow? And why dig since you can't really talk about it fully anyway due to the NDA?

That said, however, what we've done here is to create a framework which we can fill later on. Our CMS (that's the main page with our armor compendium and skills database and more) is easy to add to and expand. We can easily include walkthroughs and area maps and detailed skill breakdowns and the rest once we actually can have them. Right now, because we have to skimp on the details due to the NDA and all, we're concentrating elsewhere. We can't break the latest skill updates or talk about, say, that nifty Old Ascalon area but what we can do is talk about things like strategy, like how to make a build, like what are the mechanics that underpin the game, so that and more is what we're working on right now. Not the precise details that someone playing day in and day out would need but the sort of background information that will help people get better at playing the game. As for what we'll do in the future I'll just say that we've got plans and ambitions around here and hopefully you'll all like the results.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcism
Site looks great.. though.. one of my pet peeves would be how long it takes to get to the skill database, the words are so small and similar it takes too long to find out about a skill (imo). Hey, Narc. Nice to see you here.

Yes, searching throgh the CMS can take a bit of getting used to because it's mostly text baesed at the moment. Maybe in the future we'll have a more graphics intensive front or index page to help people hop around as well as some places where it's easy to get information at a glance (There's no pages yet that would, for example, let you see every skill an Elementalist can learn. It's all chopped up into attribute lines). However, you can increase the font size on your browser so the words are easier to read, that can help.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcism
Site looks great.. though.. one of my pet peeves would be how long it takes to get to the skill database, the words are so small and similar it takes too long to find out about a skill (imo). We will add a page that lets you see all skills - both by profession and by category - on one page. Its a bit tricky to create so give us a bit of time on that

BBB

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

York, UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooky
As you can see by now, we've got most of the site up. However - due to changes in the NDA, we're a bit limited on the content that we can add until the BWE rolls around, but we'd like to be prepared for it when it does happen - so I ask this:

What would you like to see added to the site?
Anything else you'd like to say about what's already there? Mission Guides

And Mapping of Different missions and explorable areas like what type of monsters you'll find and if theres any bosses and if there is a boss what skills does it use etc etc etc. Plus all the things other Fansites have.

Could also have PvP guides and GvG guides so basicly you map each level and like explain whats good about it??? meh idk
You could also like pimp Ensign out and let people hire him for GvG's and stuff LMFAO i know i'd pay atleast a minor vigor rune to have him on my team

And general guides too etc from the newbies and erm stuff and err more stuff and errmm like a downloads section with like things you can download in... yea...

And if you include any of my great ideas you gotta have a little with thanks to bbb for his great idea.

Aladdar

Aladdar

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2005

mission guides are planned, but as stated we can't really do much with that until closer to release as things are changing every time you turn around.

We do have boss information though here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/bosses-of-tyria-id30.php

check it out.

BBB

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

York, UK

Quote:
mission guides are planned, Yea.... i bet they're planned now....

.php? thats a virus!!111

Spooky

Spooky

Bokusatsu Tenshi

Join Date: Dec 2004

Bellevue, WA

KEA

E/Mo

Quote:
One of the best fan sites for an MMORPG ever created was uo.stratics.com. I used to work there myself, I believe I was there for somewhere around a year.

As for mission guides: There's only so much detail that we're allowed to give, we can keep things mostly general such as they are now .. but an actual walkthrough is offlimits, according to Gaile.

Eragon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2005

My house

Awesome site, awesome members, what else could one ask for? Oh that's right, can I have a cookie?

bobert

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

TX

R/Me

maybe y'all could put up more forum boards?

like strageties (maybe even class specific)
or a suggestion board for the site and/or GW itself

i think that there are a lot of other board topics that can be made, but i just threw out a couple.

awesome site btw

Spooky

Spooky

Bokusatsu Tenshi

Join Date: Dec 2004

Bellevue, WA

KEA

E/Mo

We'll most likely be adding more forums as time goes on, but getting a board started at first can be a slow process. If we have too many forums, things get spread a little too thin and are likely to remain inactive. Once we're at a point where we can foster and sustain things, then we can spread out a little more.

Firax

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Obsidian Kings [TOK]

E/R

I poked around the site alittle bit, and I must say I'm impressed. That's alot of information.

Concidering NDA, my only complaint is that I keep trying to click on the little images next to the text... and nothing happens. (Make them into links? Please? )

~Firax

THX

THX

Before all else, be armed.

Join Date: Dec 2004

Canada

Bobert, I believe, for the moment, we are going to keep the number of boards relatively limited. We'd like to have the information centralized in one main forum instead of distributing the discussions into various categories. The way I see it, many posts/threads get lost in shuffle if they are not located in the "popular" section, we can circumvent this rather easily with a semi-central forum; it also might encourage quality participation.
If we notice a feeling of clutter, we will add the necessary categories. This may be referred to as one of our many test projects

Firax, I'm going to try and link the images. I cannot promise anything though

Aladdar

Aladdar

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2005

I guess you could say we're in open beta now.

God I'm a nerd.

FrogDevourer

FrogDevourer

on a GW break until C4

Join Date: Feb 2005

In your shadow

Servants of Fortuna

Glad to see interesting and knowledgeable people for a change. I was bored of reading the same threads again and again in other boards.

The site looks great. Lots of interesting information. Keep up the good work !

Small comment : getting to the information is sometimes long and clumsy (lots of clicks involved). You can't display a whole skill profession/tree. I like to compare similar skills (e.g : Air spells). So my suggestion would be to add larger skill lists (or complex requests by profession or trees...) to the skill-specific pages.

Just one minor question. Your list shows that Stone Daggers has been updated on December 31, 2004. As far as I can recall, there is a newer version on gwonline with no recharge time. Right ? Well, I guess the skill update is already on its way.

THX

THX

Before all else, be armed.

Join Date: Dec 2004

Canada

We will be making some of the content appear in full fledged lists as soon as we get the technical side sorted. As for the skills, they are due for an update; probably will get an overhaul later this week. The date presented is a bit misleading though, it does not indicate when the last update occurred; merely when the skill was originally added (i.e., it is pretty pointless). So, I suppose it is something else we will need to alter

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Remember also that skill changes are happening all the time, and right now those changes are often considered leaks. Stone Daggers is one of those cases, as is the elite status of Marksman's Wager. Those particular tidbits might be perfectly ok, and they might not be. The point is that our admins can't just hop in game and check a skill for you like they could a month ago. Now skill updates are done during BWEs, and from questionable leaks. You don't have to like that policy, but that's what Gaile has decreed, and since people with original access to the information are under NDA we don't have a choice in this matter.

Basically, just look at the skill lists to get a general idea of what a skill does, but don't trust the numbers, because they very well could have changed but no one can tell you.

Peace,
-CxE

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon
Awesome site, awesome members, what else could one ask for? Oh that's right, can I have a cookie? Sorry no - I need those cookies to keep programming.