[CotN] Instant Travel: Cross-Campaign Travel - Improvements and Discussion

madmonarch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

PvE

E/

/signed

Thought about easier maptravel just yesterday ^_^

tmakinen

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

E/

/signed

Two possible methods of implementing the from-anywhere-to-anywhere-in-one-warp feature:

1. Make the map screen tabbed with your current map as the initial selection. You can switch between maps by clicking the respective tab.

2. Add a 'maps' icon (or use the existing ship icon) to one corner of the map screen, with a pull-down menu / selection widget / whatever of all maps.

In both cases, you can either make ineligible maps unselectable, or show them with a disclaimer like 'You haven't unlocked any locations on this map' or 'You must have Guild Wars: Factions to unlock locations on this map'. I agree that it would be a good incentive to get the missing campaigns when you see all that virgin territory just waiting to be exploited

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

Agreed. great idea, i hate having to go through LA, Kamadan, and Kenieg Center just to go to one location.

/signed

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenreaper3
i am sooo tired of being in the realm of torment...and wanting to go to lets say droks... i have to leave the realm of torment... leave nightfall...then map to droks... this is VERY frustrating with only 500 ram lol

i say:

make a little arrow at the bottom/corner of the screen and it says "Cantha" or "Elona" or "Tyria" or a little bar at the top that u can chose what campaign u want the map screen to show...

or have it like when chosing a district

then, the map screen changes, and u can warp from ANYWHERE to ANYWHERE (as long as u have the town/campaign)

PLEASE i am tired of long loads to go to one place... i stopped plaing my warrior because he was in droks and needed to be in realm of torment...just cause i was to impatient for the long loads...

PLZ SIGN THIS



/sign


i know what u mead done this way too much especially with a dialup connection its pure Kain and Chaos


~concerned dialup 56 modem fan ^_^

Apache.Scythe

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

D/Mo

/signed

i think it would be effective when choosing a character from the character select menu. i am often finding myself changing chars and mapping from one campaign to another to help a mate

Nornagest

Nornagest

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

Gemeinschaft der Streiter Innos

R/

At least there should be a way to directly travel to the Realm of Torment, but your suggestion is even better.

/signed

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

/Signed over and over

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

/Signed

here's a situation I see often. I gather up my guildies to do a mission, say in Nightfall (with 8 people). I leave guild hall, and then realize that I'm in, say, Cantha. I teleport to Kamadan and my party is too big. Then I have to travel there myself (to the mission), go to guild hall, pick up my party members, then leave.

Evil Genius

Evil Genius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Australia

Mo/

/signed

I have no problem with load times or internet speeds but it still annoying to go from Realm of Torment to elsewhere ... and i can empathize with others.

Quote:
My pc is equivilent to what Anet built Gw's on. Dual Core 5ghz, 3gb Ram, Radeon Sapphire (latest TOP-Line Graphics) 1ghz Net connection.
Lol. 5ghz dual core: You must be using water cooling.
Radeon Sapphire: This has no real meaning on how good the card is.
1 ghz net connection: ???? Wireless is generally 2.4ghz .... download/upload speed is given in megabits/second.

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

/signed


Would make mapping on a slow college internet alot easier.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

/signed again

I would be nice to be able to go from one map to the other with out a ton of spawning in hellish towns.

~the rat~

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Just think in the poor people that have to go from the Eye of the North to Domain of Anguish and back...

4 transitions when you want to go to one place! 5 minutes when you just need 10 seconds there! T-T...

Whirlwind

Whirlwind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wolven Empire

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasuke The Betrayer
/Signed

here's a situation I see often. I gather up my guildies to do a mission, say in Nightfall (with 8 people). I leave guild hall, and then realize that I'm in, say, Cantha. I teleport to Kamadan and my party is too big. Then I have to travel there myself (to the mission), go to guild hall, pick up my party members, then leave.
Oh I HATE it when i have to split up a group to move between campaigns, i mean wth is that lol? Anet wants it to be a 'team' game yet they use this flawed design of 4 person groups in main citys requiring you to split up to move a group through them and re form on the other side.. ingenius !!!!!!!!

And moving to realm of torment is stupid in itself, muchless from another campaign !!

/SIGNED

Whirlwind

Whirlwind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wolven Empire

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Just think in the poor people that have to go from the Eye of the North to Domain of Anguish and back...

4 transitions when you want to go to one place! 5 minutes when you just need 10 seconds there! T-T...

Gw:en to kamadan, to torment, to DoA, back to "regular" nightfall, to kamadan, to Gw:en,. Then when you get back to Gw:en you still have to zone again to get to w/e zone you came from.

Thats 7 times you zone to go to one area and back, design flaw? You tell me !

/SIGNED

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

solution would be only imo, if anet would give us finally a 3D- turnable Globe World Map..

but this can't Anet do, until they have decided, when the world of tyria will be finally complete and no new continents will be implemented, to create a full 3D globe world map.

Such a 3D World Globe Map would be imo the best thing...there would be no need anymore to switsch between maps of single continents, no u just turn around then your 3D glove and then you can zoom in ever at the point, where you want to look at closer..then u zoom out again, turn your glove a bit further to the next continent and then you zoom again in.

Such a 3D-Map would give the players also a much better feelign about, how big our game world really is, compared to our earth ^^..is Tyria bigger then Earth, or smaller XD That would be a question, that could be easily shown with a 3D Globe of tyria as World Map
When this comes not for GW1, then i hope really Anet will give us such an innovative World map in GW2

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
solution would be only imo, if anet would give us finally a 3D- turnable Globe World Map..
For GW1 map tabs would work. Simply click on tab and change to elona or cantha, then map to where you want. It shouldnt be to hard to add. I would hope that its not a lot of programming.

The Globe would be nice but I am practical in something.

~the rat~

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Yeah, tabs or arrows, or even use the current icons.
With the current icon, it would be like this:
- Start in Prophecies.
- Want to go to the Gate of Abaddon?
- Use the boat, the menu is shown. Select 'Nightfall', the Nightfall map is show instead of traveling to Kamadan. Then use the Vortex, and the Torment map is shown instead of traveling to the Gate of Torment. Now use the Gate of Abaddon icon, and the Travel starts.
- Now you are in the Gate of Torment.
- Want to got to Doomlore Shrine?
- Use the , the Nightfall map is show, use the Asuran Gate, the Tyrian map is shown, and then use the Doonlore Shrien icon. Travel Starts.
- Now you are in Doomlore Shrine.
- Want to go to Inner Sanctum?
- Use the boat, the Factions map is Shown, use the Inner Sanctum icon. Travel starts.

See? No need to new GUI items, just make them have different behavior. Show instead of travel.

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

/signed for tabs or flipping.

Kubik2000

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

GODS

Mo/Me

I think that the best would be just tome swich buttons lets say in the left corner of each map (GWP, GWF,GWN & island) so u could simply select to which region I would like to teleport to. They should be visible also when map is zoomed out like ship travel and gwen travel button's.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

imo the battle islands could be also placed as outpost icons onto the normal world map....

i saw from the begin on really no sense in giving the battle island an own mini map, which is zoomed in much more to the islands...


the tyria world map needs so or so finally a FIX..so that these ugly black lines on the sides will disappear and that the map becomes again hozizontal based.... and not vertical ....i still hope that Anet will implement someday with another add on some new content in foram of increasing the world map with new explorable areas to the west and east to get rid of these 2 big black terrable lines and to make out of the world map again a world map as it was..before Eye of the North ...


these 2 big black lines let the world map look absolutely ugly

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Awesome Nuke
Exemple : You're in your Guild Hall, you want to travel to Henge of Denravi.

-Press M
-Click on the Boat, then select Lion's Arch (or it could be written "Continent of Tyria")
-Map of Battle Isles fades out
-Map of Continent of Tyria fades in

-You double click Henge of Denravi
-Voila
/signed

.....

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
/signed

.....
i would love it if it worked like that.....

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

There is no need for more or new icons. The already existing ones can be used.

Click the boat, select 'Tyria', Tyria is shown, focused in the shouthern part .
You are in Elona, Click the Vortex, The Torment is show.
You are in Factions, Click the Asura gate, Tyria is Shown, focused in the northern part.

Done, easy as a pie.

dts720666

dts720666

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

E/Me

/signed

I would love to see this.

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Awesome Nuke
Here's how the current travelling between 'maps' works (maps being Cantha, Tyria and PvP isles)

You choose the port city to where you want to travel, then map. After that, you map to another destination.

If I'm in Market Place (Cantha) and want to get to Ascalon City (Tyria), that makes 2 loadings, which isnt efficient IMO.

What I'm suggesting is to make it so when you select a port city, then the map for that port city fades in or whatever, then you can select what outpost you'd like to travel to.

Exemple : You're in your Guild Hall, you want to travel to Henge of Denravi.

-Press M
-Click on the Boat, then select Lion's Arch (or it could be written "Continent of Tyria")
-Map of Battle Isles fades out
-Map of Continent of Tyria fades in
-You double click Henge of Denravi
-Voila

Would be much more efficient this way and we would save a load time (people with fast computers dont mind this, but people with lower end machines might end up saving 30+ seconds per travel.)

Hope I made this clear Quite simple to implement and so much more efficient way of Travelling between continents.

Thanks!
that is exatlcy what i have been dieing for... its even worse with NF now...
imagine this:

u have 500 ram
ur in Droknar's Fordge.
You want to go to Abbadons Gate.

just to get there, u need to:

open map

map to nightfall

wait 3 minutes to load (remember, 500 ram)

open map again

map to the vortex

wait another 3 or so minutes

open map AGAIN

map to Abbadons Gate

wait 3 minutes to load



IF WE HAD INSTANT TRAVEL:


Open Map

Click "Contenitent of Elona" or W/E

Click "Vortex"

(oh btw, idea for vortex:when u click it, it fades into/out of realm of torment)

Click "Abbadons Gate"

and ur done


/signed to auto travel FTW

U Wanna Die

U Wanna Die

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

W/Mo

i mean it is a little annoying, but it beats overloading to random parts. "Shoot i meant Realm of Torment, not Maguma Jungle!"

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by U Wanna Die
i mean it is a little annoying, but it beats overloading to random parts. "Shoot i meant Realm of Torment, not Maguma Jungle!"
im sorry i dont get it...how do u click realm of torment.. which is in elona.. and top of the map

with muguma jungle (which is an area, u cant port to "the muguma jungle")...which is in tyria, on the far left middle...


i just dont get ur post...

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

The only reason I can think against this is map icons being loaded when you travel to a certain region.

So if you clicked to travel to Elona from Tyria you'll se Tyrian icons there.

But I doubt anyone caring about that or it being hard to fix.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenreaper3

wait 3 minutes to load (remember, 500 ram)
I am assuming by "500" you mean "512 Megabytes" since 500 would be very hard to get. I personally have a Gig (1024 megs, for everyone that doesn't know) and my load times are only at about 7 seconds, albiet, I am running on cable, but a friend of mine with dial-up runs at about 45 seconds per load with 1 gb.

Point of my post: 3 minutes is very unreasonable. Only with dial-up and 256mb of ram, you might have 3 minutes of load time, if it's your first load ever.

Real point of my post: Please don't exaggerate.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I have 512 and sometimes I get more than 2 minutes.

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
The only reason I can think against this is map icons being loaded when you travel to a certain region.

So if you clicked to travel to Elona from Tyria you'll se Tyrian icons there.

But I doubt anyone caring about that or it being hard to fix.
it would probally just fade out, when u click travel to elona, then fade back in with a nightfall map...

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

not needed

/notsigned

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
not needed

/notsigned
why not? just cause u might have 2 gigs of ram, and load in half a second, others dont... some have dial up + 100 year old computer + 512 ram... and think of all that load?


it is needed ><

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
not needed

/notsigned
Needed.

Having to go from Doomlore-Kamadan-Vortex-Gate of Anguish and waiting for all those load times is something that just doesn't need to be like that, and could easily be remedied.

By the way, nice thread necromancy, Milthran.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenreaper3
why not? just cause u might have 2 gigs of ram, and load in half a second, others dont... some have dial up + 100 year old computer + 512 ram... and think of all that load?


it is needed ><

sorry ... still

/notsigned

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

definitely /signed it's a pain in the ass to go from LA to DoA, first go to Kamadan then to portal then to DoA, it's just very inefficient.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Yes, I know. Three whole mouse clicks is such a pain.

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

another thought about this i had was what if there a tab in the hero's panel that said "travel" and then it would have 4 drop down menus "Tryia" "Cantha" "Elona" "Battle Is" so you pull down a menu and pick a town/arena the only place that wouldn't have this or would have a scaled down version would be pre.

tipiak

tipiak

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Hellsace

F*ck Yeah Ion Cannons [dBal]

W/

/signed too

I might just not have an überpc but it takes some times to load the big cities : 30 secondes to 1 minutes or more depending on the number of people in the city. Quite annoying.

bathazard

bathazard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

/signed really good idea!