[Petition] Profession Changer ~ Guild Hall & Hero window [H]
Tuoba Hturt Eht
The Night Fall Preview Event has confirmed the functionalities of the "K" "Skills & Attributes" window.
The ability to change our secondary professions without having to go through any loading screens is confirmed.
I hereby express my utmost gratitude to ANET.
ANET, thank you for listening.
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Commentary
With reference to these 2 threads:
01-30-2006 | Kai Nui | Final Straw On Secondary
05-10-2006 | Lord Pharoah | Profession Changer in Guild Hall, Change 2nd Profession on "Hero window" [H]
Can we finally have a similiar function when Night Fall is released?
With the original 6 Core Professions, plus 2 Factions Professions, plus 2 more Night Fall Professions, that would be a total of 10 different Professions.
Please do not make us map zone that many times when we need to change our secondary Professions.
The least they can do is to provide a Profession Changer in the Guild Hall. I don't care if it costs 100,000 gold, I am definitely getting one for my Guild Hall.
Of course, it would best if they just let us change our secondary Profession via the Hero Menu [H]
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Proposed new features:
1. Profession Changer in Guild Hall
- PvP-only characters can change freely
- PvE characters can only change if they unlocked it
2. Change Profession through Hero Window [H]
- PvP-only characters can change freely
- PvE characters can only change if they unlocked it, plus
- They completed various special profession quests in each chapter
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You like either one or both of the above mentioned features to be included in the release of Night Fall.
Yes (Signed) / No (Un-Signed)
Yes (Signed)
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Tuoba Hturt Eht, plasmasword (2), Satai Katalya, Sheol, Kimikio, Nate Is God, Saphatorael, King Kong, the_baron, etain, boenan, Jin Of Stealth (2), ChuckNorrispwns, BenO_Under, RuPee (2), Neo Nugget, CC|Alter, omny, Kareem, NightOwl, Arcador, sassoonssamson, LuxA, Tark Alkerk, WhiteZombie, Suuk, onerabbit, SaGGGan, Gawayne, Makkert, Fender, SpeedyKQ, platinumfoil, Tomcat01, TheDrake, dudehere120, Zexion, The truth itself (2), Fenril Atrum, Kijik Oni Hanryuu, Mr.Deflok, Run Red Run, DOCB22, Lethorn Maeran, Rogier, funbun, mudy, stiffler, pigdestroyer, angry_irish_man, T Lo, =HT=Ingram (1), Sylphon (1), Jedimagician (1), Li Tian, Kai Nui, Sir Mad (1), Cowboy, bamm bamm bamm (2), Shadowfrost, Lord Aro (Prefer 2, fine with 1), MooseyFate, Clord, zelira, pharaos, brokenmonkey, Cynn Evennia, Yoda66 (1), unmatchedfury, Bocjo Bassannn, Doug Warren, Batou of Nine, nugzta, Toxic RD, UBS, Ss Executioner, Nexium, Marty Silverblade (1), Kong (1), llsektorll, SilentAssassin, Opeth, Mr. G (1), Mordakai, sdrawkcab11, eohjay (1), Franco, dexploratio (1), Shadow_7, The Fat Guy, Chief, Soldat, Gagonaka, Nanood, fleshvirus, Pinna, Dfx Gladiator, Shoeth, Underworld Calling, AlienFromBeyond, Mixos, Drunkn Munky, Stranger The Ranger, Lethorn Maeran, Jecht Scye
No (Un-Signed)
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Jin Of Stealth (1), merdle, DeathShadowX, Yoda66 (2), SaucE, Knightsaber Sith
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Please state reasons if you are against this.
Discuss.
The ability to change our secondary professions without having to go through any loading screens is confirmed.
I hereby express my utmost gratitude to ANET.
ANET, thank you for listening.
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Commentary
With reference to these 2 threads:
01-30-2006 | Kai Nui | Final Straw On Secondary
05-10-2006 | Lord Pharoah | Profession Changer in Guild Hall, Change 2nd Profession on "Hero window" [H]
Can we finally have a similiar function when Night Fall is released?
With the original 6 Core Professions, plus 2 Factions Professions, plus 2 more Night Fall Professions, that would be a total of 10 different Professions.
Please do not make us map zone that many times when we need to change our secondary Professions.
The least they can do is to provide a Profession Changer in the Guild Hall. I don't care if it costs 100,000 gold, I am definitely getting one for my Guild Hall.
Of course, it would best if they just let us change our secondary Profession via the Hero Menu [H]
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Proposed new features:
1. Profession Changer in Guild Hall
- PvP-only characters can change freely
- PvE characters can only change if they unlocked it
2. Change Profession through Hero Window [H]
- PvP-only characters can change freely
- PvE characters can only change if they unlocked it, plus
- They completed various special profession quests in each chapter
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You like either one or both of the above mentioned features to be included in the release of Night Fall.
Yes (Signed) / No (Un-Signed)
Yes (Signed)
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Tuoba Hturt Eht, plasmasword (2), Satai Katalya, Sheol, Kimikio, Nate Is God, Saphatorael, King Kong, the_baron, etain, boenan, Jin Of Stealth (2), ChuckNorrispwns, BenO_Under, RuPee (2), Neo Nugget, CC|Alter, omny, Kareem, NightOwl, Arcador, sassoonssamson, LuxA, Tark Alkerk, WhiteZombie, Suuk, onerabbit, SaGGGan, Gawayne, Makkert, Fender, SpeedyKQ, platinumfoil, Tomcat01, TheDrake, dudehere120, Zexion, The truth itself (2), Fenril Atrum, Kijik Oni Hanryuu, Mr.Deflok, Run Red Run, DOCB22, Lethorn Maeran, Rogier, funbun, mudy, stiffler, pigdestroyer, angry_irish_man, T Lo, =HT=Ingram (1), Sylphon (1), Jedimagician (1), Li Tian, Kai Nui, Sir Mad (1), Cowboy, bamm bamm bamm (2), Shadowfrost, Lord Aro (Prefer 2, fine with 1), MooseyFate, Clord, zelira, pharaos, brokenmonkey, Cynn Evennia, Yoda66 (1), unmatchedfury, Bocjo Bassannn, Doug Warren, Batou of Nine, nugzta, Toxic RD, UBS, Ss Executioner, Nexium, Marty Silverblade (1), Kong (1), llsektorll, SilentAssassin, Opeth, Mr. G (1), Mordakai, sdrawkcab11, eohjay (1), Franco, dexploratio (1), Shadow_7, The Fat Guy, Chief, Soldat, Gagonaka, Nanood, fleshvirus, Pinna, Dfx Gladiator, Shoeth, Underworld Calling, AlienFromBeyond, Mixos, Drunkn Munky, Stranger The Ranger, Lethorn Maeran, Jecht Scye
No (Un-Signed)
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Jin Of Stealth (1), merdle, DeathShadowX, Yoda66 (2), SaucE, Knightsaber Sith
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Please state reasons if you are against this.
Discuss.
plasmasword
While we're on the subject of things in the [H] window, I'll repost a thread I made a while back that got no negative feedback but was never taken into consideration. Button in [H] Window to reset stats to 0.
/signed to change profession/stats in H window.
/signed to change profession/stats in H window.
Satai Katalya
obviously restrictions will need to be in place for such a thinglike opening them up first and being lvl 20.
/signed
/signed
Sheol
/signed
Hate having to map all the time ^_^;
Hate having to map all the time ^_^;
Kimikio
/signed
Nate Is God
/signed, hate mapping all over to change my profession, or paying 500 gold each time.
Saphatorael
/signed and @Nate, it's a one-time 'fee', after you've changed to one particular secondary once, you won't need to pay again to change to that.
King Kong
/signed
Would love to have it on the Hero screen!!! Time you map all over the place and get back, your lost favor
Would love to have it on the Hero screen!!! Time you map all over the place and get back, your lost favor
the_baron
/signed mapping is a pain
etain
/signed
boenan
i think they should re-instate the -path quests... i.e. Monk's Path, Warrior's Path, etc etc... and include those that you have already achieved for free at a Profession changer. If you haven't achieved any, then you must pay 500gp to change...
/sign
to include a profession selector or attribute clear in [H]
/sign
to include a profession changer in Guild Hall.
/sign
to include a profession selector or attribute clear in [H]
/sign
to include a profession changer in Guild Hall.
Jin Of Stealth
Have you not played factions? You can change ur 2nd proffesion in no time at Senji's Corner. Its not even 1 minute to do that. IDK why all of you are complaining. Although I would like to have more in certain areas that are past Ascention (Droknar's).
I don't think having a profession changer in Guild Hall is a good idea. Cuz then the little lvl 2's will be switching all the time.
/notsigned Profession changer in Guild Hall
I do think however that changing in the Hero window could be a good idea(only if you've been ascended, done the quests to do so...(Profecies) or gotten to Senji's corner(Factions) You would also have to pay either each time to change it, or have like a one time fee of say....1 platinum, that sounds fair to the peeps that always are changing, and also doesn't effect peeps that don't change soo often
/signed Profession changer in Hero window
I don't think having a profession changer in Guild Hall is a good idea. Cuz then the little lvl 2's will be switching all the time.
/notsigned Profession changer in Guild Hall
I do think however that changing in the Hero window could be a good idea(only if you've been ascended, done the quests to do so...(Profecies) or gotten to Senji's corner(Factions) You would also have to pay either each time to change it, or have like a one time fee of say....1 platinum, that sounds fair to the peeps that always are changing, and also doesn't effect peeps that don't change soo often
/signed Profession changer in Hero window
ChuckNorrispwns
/Signed for both
@ Jin - It is a good idea, the mapping back and forth on ships is frustrating, and you would have to unlock either that crystal desert place, Senji's, or the new place in NF if they dont do this.
Maybe it should cost 200Gp or something to be able to change for the first time on each new secondary.
@ Jin - It is a good idea, the mapping back and forth on ships is frustrating, and you would have to unlock either that crystal desert place, Senji's, or the new place in NF if they dont do this.
Maybe it should cost 200Gp or something to be able to change for the first time on each new secondary.
BenO_Under
/signed
RuPee
/signed for profession changer in [H]
but of course there has to be prerequisites such as ascending and being level 20 etc.
but of course there has to be prerequisites such as ascending and being level 20 etc.
Trylo
i dont mind the H thing BUT
Guild Halls cator to all versions of the game, the same guild hall. Proph. only can receive Kurz/Lux/Imperial/monastery guilds. No that is not the main point. Since factions also has the exact same guilds, having a proffesion NPC in the guild hall would allow a factions only person to go to the guild hall and switch to a Nightfall only secondary without paying the $50. Therefore, anet losing money. And i dont think they are gunna switch the battle isles any time soon, because everyone can always get to them, no matter what expansion.
Guild Halls cator to all versions of the game, the same guild hall. Proph. only can receive Kurz/Lux/Imperial/monastery guilds. No that is not the main point. Since factions also has the exact same guilds, having a proffesion NPC in the guild hall would allow a factions only person to go to the guild hall and switch to a Nightfall only secondary without paying the $50. Therefore, anet losing money. And i dont think they are gunna switch the battle isles any time soon, because everyone can always get to them, no matter what expansion.
Neo Nugget
/Signed
Im too lazy to do the missions to change in desert and dont really like tohe senji's corner paying to change thing...although it is easier.
Im too lazy to do the missions to change in desert and dont really like tohe senji's corner paying to change thing...although it is easier.
CC|Alter
So very /signed
omny
/Signed, IF only profs unlocked at Senji's or xxxxxx's path quests are available. Or you could make people have to unlock them all to be able to change in GH.
OR, 500gp to unlock (like @ Senji's), but prerequisite of level 20.
OR, 500gp to unlock (like @ Senji's), but prerequisite of level 20.
Kareem
/SIGNED
I'm always changing professions constantly, It's a big hassle D;
I'm always changing professions constantly, It's a big hassle D;
NightOwl
Yes, absolutely. /signed
Arcador
Yes I also agree, it will be a releave
/signed (I hate to type this)
/signed (I hate to type this)
sassoonssamson
/signed
good idea
good idea
Sab
Convenient.
/Signed.
/Signed.
Tark Alkerk
i agree on both counts
having to map from ur guild hall 2 senjis/desert and back again is really annoying and frusrating, but i belive that u should only be allowed to do it when you are ascended and done the required path missions or in factions if u are wei no su.
i think though that only pvp charecters shoud be able to change from the hero menu.
rerolling just because your ele/mo not ele/mes is annoying.
/signed
having to map from ur guild hall 2 senjis/desert and back again is really annoying and frusrating, but i belive that u should only be allowed to do it when you are ascended and done the required path missions or in factions if u are wei no su.
i think though that only pvp charecters shoud be able to change from the hero menu.
rerolling just because your ele/mo not ele/mes is annoying.
/signed
WhiteZombie
/signed for the hero window one.
each secondary would be 'unlocked' when you did either the path quests in prophecies or paid your 500g in senjis (and whatever they do for it in nightfall). it would be character based...
for sense of completion, pvp characters should be able to use it all the time, but their unlocks are account based, ie, if you own all chapters you can switch to all character secondaries, including 'no second profession'.
each secondary would be 'unlocked' when you did either the path quests in prophecies or paid your 500g in senjis (and whatever they do for it in nightfall). it would be character based...
for sense of completion, pvp characters should be able to use it all the time, but their unlocks are account based, ie, if you own all chapters you can switch to all character secondaries, including 'no second profession'.
Suuk
/signed, both proposals.
RTSFirebat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jin Of Stealth
Have you not played factions? You can change ur 2nd proffesion in no time at Senji's Corner. Its not even 1 minute to do that. IDK why all of you are complaining. Although I would like to have more in certain areas that are past Ascention (Droknar's).
I don't think having a profession changer in Guild Hall is a good idea. Cuz then the little lvl 2's will be switching all the time. /notsigned Profession changer in Guild Hall |
You know that it costs 500g each time to change your secondary profession at Senji's Corner of the 1st time... its expensive.
Plus you need to map there just like the desert area constantly to change.
As for lvl 2's changing their professions that would not be an issue. People have already suggested limits such as lvl 20 only, etc...
At the end of the day its annoying as hell having to map about. A Guild Profession changing would be much better.
sassoonssamson
Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
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You know that it costs 500g each time to change your secondary profession at Senji's Corner... its expensive if you change often. As for lvl 2's changing their professions that would not be an issue. People have already suggested limits such as lvl 20 only, etc... At the end of the day its annoying as hell having to map about. A Guild Profession changing would be much better. |
it cost 500 gold
Shit didnt pay attention to that I was changing quite frequently
majoho
totally not needed, people are just too damn lazy
I mean it takes 2 mins to change professions in factions, with mapping.
I mean it takes 2 mins to change professions in factions, with mapping.
majoho
Quote:
Originally Posted by sassoonssamson
it cost 500 gold
Shit didnt pay attention to that I was changing quite frequently |
onerabbit
/signed!
i love the idea!, always going on to my guild about getting a prof changer in guild hall.
i love the idea!, always going on to my guild about getting a prof changer in guild hall.
SaGGGan
/signed
should also be available for pvp chars
should also be available for pvp chars
RTSFirebat
Quote:
Originally Posted by majoho
totally not needed, people are just too damn lazy
I mean it takes 2 mins to change professions in factions, with mapping. |
Gawayne
/sign both ideas
And when you're organizing a group for an ELite Mission? Then someone says "Oh, it should be better if you came with build XX instead of YY, could you change classes?". Then you go all the to Senji's, change the profession, go to the GH of an ally and wait somebody come to ferry you there. That's pretty annoying.
And i won't say anything about rerolling PvP character just to change your secondary since that takes a whole Era. I just can't get the same appearence everytime and... well... i tend to take sometime chosing them. =D
And when you're organizing a group for an ELite Mission? Then someone says "Oh, it should be better if you came with build XX instead of YY, could you change classes?". Then you go all the to Senji's, change the profession, go to the GH of an ally and wait somebody come to ferry you there. That's pretty annoying.
And i won't say anything about rerolling PvP character just to change your secondary since that takes a whole Era. I just can't get the same appearence everytime and... well... i tend to take sometime chosing them. =D
RTSFirebat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawayne
And i won't say anything about rerolling PvP character just to change your secondary since that takes a whole Era. I just can't get the same appearence everytime and... well... i tend to take sometime chosing them. =D
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Makkert
/signed
Fender
/signed
Tuoba Hturt Eht
Updated original post with signatures and slightly revised the post.
The following lines of text has been added:
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Proposed new features:
1. Profession Changer in Guild Hall
- PvP-only characters can change freely
- PvE characters can only change if they unlocked it
2. Change Profession through Hero Window [H]
- PvP-only characters can change freely
- PvE characters can only change if they unlocked it, plus
- They completed various special profession quests in each chapter
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Jin Of Stealth,
"I don't think having a profession changer in Guild Hall is a good idea. Cuz then the little lvl 2's will be switching all the time."
As stated by the others, this will not be an issue, obviously level 2s PvE characters who have not "unlocked" their secondary professions will be unable to use the services offered by the Guild Hall's Profession Changer.
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Trylo,
having a proffesion NPC in the guild hall would allow a factions only person to go to the guild hall and switch to a Nightfall only secondary without paying the $50.
The "factions only person" can only switch to a Nightfall only Secondary Profession if the "factions only person" has first unlocked the Nightfall only Secondary Professions in the Nightfall PvE campaign.
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majoho,
"totally not needed, people are just too damn lazy
I mean it takes 2 mins to change professions in factions, with mapping."
As more ANET rolls out more chapters in the future, and the total number of Professions increases, this feature will become a neccessity.
Time is previous, being more time efficient does not equal to being lazy.
The following lines of text has been added:
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Proposed new features:
1. Profession Changer in Guild Hall
- PvP-only characters can change freely
- PvE characters can only change if they unlocked it
2. Change Profession through Hero Window [H]
- PvP-only characters can change freely
- PvE characters can only change if they unlocked it, plus
- They completed various special profession quests in each chapter
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Jin Of Stealth,
"I don't think having a profession changer in Guild Hall is a good idea. Cuz then the little lvl 2's will be switching all the time."
As stated by the others, this will not be an issue, obviously level 2s PvE characters who have not "unlocked" their secondary professions will be unable to use the services offered by the Guild Hall's Profession Changer.
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Trylo,
having a proffesion NPC in the guild hall would allow a factions only person to go to the guild hall and switch to a Nightfall only secondary without paying the $50.
The "factions only person" can only switch to a Nightfall only Secondary Profession if the "factions only person" has first unlocked the Nightfall only Secondary Professions in the Nightfall PvE campaign.
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majoho,
"totally not needed, people are just too damn lazy
I mean it takes 2 mins to change professions in factions, with mapping."
As more ANET rolls out more chapters in the future, and the total number of Professions increases, this feature will become a neccessity.
Time is previous, being more time efficient does not equal to being lazy.
SpeedyKQ
/signed
I'd prefer it in the Hero Window, but either would be an improvement.
I'd prefer it in the Hero Window, but either would be an improvement.