Are there no mature people playing this game?

I can FUlly AGree to all of this except the Monthly Fee, i MYself have the same problems with Looking for Ature players for pvp. but a monthly fee not every1 can afford that. inculding me. In pvp i find every1 jsut blaming others. or i meet new players and they are just overall stupid. or like u said just go around hitting on people with nothing decent about them. most people on this game are very imature andand no respect for others at all. they speak with no care for aynthing except wat they want. the few friends i have elft in ym guild i think hmm 5 memebrs left outa 60. i booted every1 that acts as u say. for thefew left i would willingly give u 4 ectos free or 50k if u needed it. i dont mind going broke helping people but its how others dont apreciate anything. never a thanks. os in return i am left with the only 5 people i can trust in this game to be respectful and apreciative to watwe do.

So i cant gvg no more owell. i was creating a build to fully repalace edenials. taht will own monks no mater wat if done properly. without the proper players i gave 50-60 people 2 weeks to get 8 skills. i can understand work and everything. but 8 skills is 2 hours max tog et them.

so im ;eft to these few players. yesterday i was showing a guy a hieldof mine u know im the kinda guy taht trusts a person till they screw taht up themself. i respect peopels rights. but i dropped it on hthe ground for him to c the stats, hes at the edge of my agro circle so im thinking why not. he uses the assasin skill "return and nabs my 20k shield" im like w/e i told him keep it then i know u wont give it back. and no point to whining. this game is rather said none the less. comunity is wat makes these games. until u find a group of players atleast afew this game is hopeless. i dont HoH becuz people discriminate Rank and then the others suck. my first time to HA i amde it to HoH and never went after that. To join a decent gvg guild they have these rediculus requirements of 250k faction or ank 6. every now and then i find were they look for true skill. and test u in a scrimmage or so. not buy simpel numbers u can buy.

part of the problem is that you're not looking in the right place. advertising in game has never been a good way to get mature players since most mature players have already settled into a good guild/alliance. the ones that are left behind (the "pugs" so to speak) are the ones you'd rather not play with.

the second part of the problem is that you are trying to get into pvp, which is a highly competitive environment. thus, there will be egos and rude behavior that will get in the way in a lot of pvp guilds.

honestly, the best course of action is to shop around. being on guru is already a first step. browse through the forum and take note of who the mature/helpful posters are and try to look at what guild/alliance they are in. most times, likeminded people will tend to stick together. after a while, you'll start to recognize personalities of posters and frequently seen guild tags. you might want to pm them to inquire about their guild policies and if they are recruiting.

Sorry to hear that OP, but this game is about PVP. Most of the PVP guilds I have seen are full of tension and pissed off people. People demanding that no one make any mistakes... etc. You see this when you go to Tombs or Elite missions. People demanding that you have a specific build or get out. The developers have unfortunately made a game for Elitism and recently confessed to it.

Can you show me where they said that?

Anyways I left the PvP area a long time ago and was better off for it. Way to many bad players there with "FAME" (like I give a rip). I blame the PvPr's for the assassin hate because they can't think outside the box and they all made an assassin for PvE thinking it was easy. (heh Monsters don’t rage quit) They are too hung up on roles and not for having fun or an original thought. Then there are the FF types who want you to boost their ego through FF. My suggestion is to look for a guild you and your husband can contribute to there are many out there that have husband and wife teams that don’t talk sex and drugs.

BTW I get compliments for maturity all of the time and then they ask my age... I say I'm 35 and proud to be a gamer. They then get all immature and say "WTF are you doing here?" Least they believe people my age actually make this game.

It seems ArenaNet has taken that feedback to heart. "We've learned some lessons from that, and going forward, we want to be designing things so that they're much more friendly for the casual players. We don't want to make certain areas of the world off-limits," said O'Brien

http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/724/724616p3.html

I wish ignore made the character dissappear with their text. Now that would be an improvment. Personally I'm tired of dealing with the products of weekend binges, these kids could not have all been planned.

There's a reason the character can't disappear when you ignore them...it's called "PvP", and I'd rather not die because I ignored someone and can't see them in the battle.

Erm, other than the monthly fee part of your post, I whole-heartedly agree.

Let's just say GW community is red iris flowers compared to those of WoW. So if you ever get tired of unsuccessfull abortion products in GW, go play WoW for a month and you'll want to adopt em afterwards.

I think the level of stupidity/maturity is the same, its just that with current technology it is much easier for people to interact and communicate. so it just feels that way because we are exposed to it more.

As far as maturity levels in GW go, join a good guild. Makes a world of difference.

As someone said before, I don't think anyone really cares if you guys are married or not, that would be like saying "Hi I'm the best person in the games brother" No one wants to know, just get a decent pvp guild and learn your style.

I tend to mentally filter out the trench mouth or uncheck the channels I don't want to read. MMO is a harsh environment and not for the easily shocked.

If I'm just henchin then I move to someplace quiet like the int'l server which is almost too quiet - just about spooky potty quiet.

Mature? I'm probably among the oldest playin the game.

No,there are not.

See thats the whole problem,at least 80% but i think 90% are either assholes,selfish jerks or kids.

The community just sucks but there are nice guys around who do want an organized team,im one of those and i can say that i dont even bother acting nice since i expect some lameass comment in return for my kindness,im nice to others yes but friggin hard to contact or get as a long-term ally.

The bottom line:Most are just immature jerks and those who arnt probably keep hidden from public view.

On a side note i have been paired in pvp arenas and missions alike with incompetent,stubborn,foolish or childish persons,yet on very rare occasions i do manage to rally such a group to do stuff according to a plan i make in my mind,it works because they usually have no idea what there doing anyway!

Yes, it was a redundant statement. That said who cares about pvp. I'm so tired of hearing people whine about pvp being effected if this is done, or that is done. PVP is not worth my time or effort.

Now to those getting mad, how does it feel to be written off based on your game choice? Not too good does it? Now you have an idea how pve people feel when pvpr's act like they are the only players in the game. No offense xiaotsu, just using your words to drive home a point.

The monthly fee has nothing to do with the amount of childish and rude people in MMORPG. I think that there will be more kids who are rude if there is a monthly fee. Why? Because the ones that will be able to play are the spoiled ones who gets things for free from their rich parents.

I have not run into many childish people in GW. And I love PuGs aside from the guild that I am in. Once I do, I just set them in my ignore box.

Demanding ppl to concentrate on the fight and looking for ways to improve the team by asking them what skills they could take is normal. And tension? Of course there has to be a lvl of tension before you start the fight. It's not about being Elitist, but demanding that everyone does his/her best.

@ OP:
Just look for a Guild and join it if you think it suits you. If not, just leave. That's how I've been playing this game and I've seen lots of guilds, both good/mature ones and bad/childish/immature ones.

And in the end: like the sun needs the night to be it's counterpart, this community needs the immature and rude ppl so we will KNOW what we dislike.

I feel as follows..

I payed to play gw, not to raise the kids of parents that cannot disipline their children as a result of not caring or too busy. And those that are not technically children should be banned after the second offense. Trash talk is one thing, hate speak, racial slurs, obscenties, sexual inuendo, and alike are the passtime of the seriously disturbed or the drastically immature, regardless of chronological age. I'm over 40 and still say Sir, or Maam, etc.. I was raised right, to be respectful. I'm no saint mind you, but I cannot see any reasonable purpose served by people being as nasty as they want to be, just because they think they can.

its not that 90% are selfish jerks, im sure they are fine to their real life friends that play but to anonymous people who they will never know and never see they just dont feel the need to extend certain kindnesses. if a friend pee's you off you take it on the chin, if a complete stranger does it then you either leave them to it (quit a group in these situations) or retaliate, and as text is the only form of retaliation then yeah 90% of people will be abusive in that situation.

Just ignor them... not that hard.

I agree, but a monthly fee is'nt going to eliminate egos, look at wow, it's about a millions times worse.

Most of my guild is younger, but not all of them are immature. As a matter of fact most of the older guys in my guild are the *stay at home smoke pot get offensive all-the-time* types. I love playing with a lot of my guildies, but I would really like to find a better group of people that have given up on the ego salad tossing bs. Oh well, there's a few here and there. Perhaps this is a good chance to form up a mature guild? I could probably grab a dozen people. We could call it Guru Dot Com (tm)

I resent the statement about the mountain dew, as i'm an avid mountain dew code red drinker, just because we get a hell of a sugar rush and super hyper doesn't mean we're bad people does it?

on subject, there are many mature players out there you're just looking in the wrong areas that's all, and congrats on the husband/wife team play, there are many more out there like yourself with the husband/wife teams, heck the guild i'm in the, the original guild leaders were a husband wife team and for the husbands birthday she got him FoW armor and for hers he got her FoW armor.

I drink Dew as well... I don't think you're the type I was refering to. To clarify: the people who won't shut up because of the sugar/caffeine rush.

The fact is its a diverse community. Made up of lots of people who are different. Wishing the immature (your definition or mine?) would go away is really rather silly. You won't play with potheads, I hate carebears, my friend hates people who waste time with frivolous chat and the list goes on.

All you can do is find ways to play with people you like. Take some time to maintain your friends list. When you play with somebody you like, add them. Try to do things with them from time to time. And above all, get in a guild with likeminded people. If you look hard, cant find one, and think your vision has something to offer then start a guild yourself. That can be extremely rewarding and/or rather humbling when you realize that your version of in game paradise is not the same as everybody elses.

Probably, not everybody will agree with me, but trying to change the culture of a whole game is a bit like trying to move a mountain. Better to just find ways to enjoy the game as is than spend your time railing against all those "morons" who don't think we way I do. There are rather a lot of them :-)

cheers,
pin

PS. I haven't noticed a big difference of the people in PvP and PvE. Perhaps higher level PvPers can be a bit harsher in their criticism but there are good and bad people in both.

I agree with you on all points, Guild Wars DOES have a rather large number of extremely immature people. These people can be tolerated if you have enough patience though. I admit I am only 14, but I think if myself as one of the mature players in Guild Wars. The PvP problems you stated do stem from that immaturity, but I believe also come from the Elitism that has infested this game. The idea that if you if go to "N" area and dont use "X" build automatically makes you a noob is disgusting. Most of these Elitists are old players who have STILL not developed a sense of tolerance for other's ideas and opinions. Unfortunately there is nothing that we can do to solve this problem, until perhaps the waning days of GW when all the chapters have been released. By then I would hope that most of them have moved on to the next craze. Until that happens, if it ever does, we just have to continue to remember not to act like them and just ignore it. That's the only choice we are given, IMO.


EDIT: The above poster explains better than I did that there is really nothing we can do to change it, we just have to live with it.

The game should have this label..

/sarcasm on

"Feeling left out, tired of being ignored at home, school and/or work, well we have a new place for you to call home! It's called MMORPG, as long as you can afford the entry fee, you can act anyway you want to. You can talk dirty to strangers, ask for sexual favors, bully, insult,lie cheat, steal, and more to your hearts conent. No monthly fees, just pay and jump right in. *warning: failure to fit in will put you on the receiving end of the aforementioned greif but hey, who cares what happens to those that society deems unworthy anyway!"

/sarcasm off

I would also like to note that [U]anyone[U] who says all the immature players are kids is dealing in a massive generalization and is commpletely and totally wrong.
I realize that what I just typed is in itself a massive generalization, but by the evidence of this thread, there ARE some younger players that do have a sense of maturity, myself included, which therefore makes the statement undeniably true.

On a final note, I would like to say that the guilds with age limits/requirements are only hurting themselves. As they recruit with that age requirement 1. They are depriving their guild from the mature young players and 2. They encourage the older immature ones to be more immature because they are "better" than the young ones not allowed in.

*rubs eyes*

A mature adult, now I've seen everything.

You might want to re-read pindun's post. I'm pretty sure their point is that "it" is all matter of perspective.

Agreed, some ruin it for all.

I honestly cannot say I share the experiences the vast majority of you seem to have. 90% of the PUG's I am in (and I play with them during most of my playing time) seem focused on the game at hand and rather than diverting attention to talking about sex, drawing anatomical body parts on the mini map, drugs, or anything like that. I get arguments/cursing that flare up as a result of poor playing but even so, it is caused by failure in game rather than unfounded, unprovoked immaturity. Most of the immaturity I see is people who degrade others for spamming and not using proper english. Very mature -_-.

I'm only sixteen years old, and it also irks me to see many of the older players characterize a large part of the player base as "immature", some even not accepting younger players into guilds. People deeming others immature for not using the right builds, asking for help, asking for money, or burning someone for using bad grammar are hypocritical in every way. How many times have we all seen "Kurzick alliance recruiting! Looking for members/18+ only/mature/friendly/ pm me!" Sometimes I wonder if the rash generalizations these so called mature people make are any reflection of their true maturity level.

I consider myself a mature person overall, and I would say I'm nice to others in game. I've found that by helping those players who might be regarded as less mature through nice gestures and such will never result in an ungrateful response. If I see someone asking for help while the "mature" players say "get a life, nerd!" or " or something like that I help the guy out, and he is usually grateful and if I ask him to be a bit more civil, he usually obliges. These are real people in game, and I think some of them just need a bit of egging on oblige to what we'd call civil behavior.

I realize that =). It is perspective, but how we must deal with it is the same.

Hi,

Just to let you know. I play and in fact more than my husband does. I too get some comments but usually I don't tell anyone.

I find if I do, some immature (personality not age) person I assume male will want to 'instruct' me on how to play the game. Ahhhhhh! Idiot I got to level 20 all by myself!!!

As for the guild well we belong to a very small one made up of friends.

Good luck.

jm