Elite mission sucks

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ogami_ito
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
I don't mean that the mission is designed bad. Its just too hard to do with a pick-up group. I tried doing the elites. I read up on it on this forum and at GW wiki. So my warrior is now a tank with skills I almost never use, like deadly reaposte, etc. My monk healed me and the elementalist nuked and I worked to make sure that I had agro and I didn't over-agro. So we were cool. But everyone else (in the other rooms) keeps dying at the beginning, then bailing. WTF? Its almost as bad as trying to organize for an instance in Wow. At least in Wow, when you sign-off you are at the same place next time you sign on. So there is sort of a penalty (however minor) for leaving the group. It seems that a 12 person group, there is no penalty.

I sort of feel thatthe elite missions are not worth it. Not with a PuG anyway. Too frustrating.
Zakarr
Zakarr
Jungle Guide
#2
They are not meant for public access. Maybe Anet wanted to show why they are limited. It is just waste of time with random people.
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Enchanted Warrior
Wilds Pathfinder
#3
Re: "The deep"

I'm a level 20 warrior, with over 1 mill in exp. 100 infused armor, with 14 strength and 16 swordsmanship. 506 health with weapons equipped. Ssaki's sword, customized, and bronze sheild with +30 ehalth and -5 reduced damage. Superior aborb in chest and leggings. I died in one hit.

Waste of time, avoid it if you want my opinion.
Rok
Rok
Lion's Arch Merchant
#4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior
Re: "The deep"

I'm a level 20 warrior, with over 1 mill in exp. 100 infused armor, with 14 strength and 16 swordsmanship. 506 health with weapons equipped. Ssaki's sword, customized, and bronze sheild with +30 ehalth and -5 reduced damage. Superior aborb in chest and leggings. I died in one hit.

Waste of time, avoid it if you want my opinion.
No tactics FTL

Deep needs KD Tanks, not sword swinging n00bs - good thing you were infused though, that helps A Lot
Stockholm
Stockholm
Desert Nomad
#5
TEAM WORK. thats the key in the elit missions.
Tachyon
Tachyon
Forge Runner
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior
Superior aborb in chest and leggings.
You do realise that they don't stack, don't you? You only need one Superior Absorption, the other one on your legs is a waste of time!
Xx Invictus xX
Xx Invictus xX
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
and in urgoz theres these little suicide things where one hit kills you ... maybe thats where u were
Count Feanor
Count Feanor
Krytan Explorer
#8
How does infusion help? I thought that was just for the Mursaat in Prophesies.
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kimo the healer
Frost Gate Guardian
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior
Re: "The deep"

I'm a level 20 warrior, with over 1 mill in exp. 100 infused armor, with 14 strength and 16 swordsmanship. 506 health with weapons equipped. Ssaki's sword, customized, and bronze sheild with +30 ehalth and -5 reduced damage. Superior aborb in chest and leggings. I died in one hit.

Waste of time, avoid it if you want my opinion.
You may have the best equipment, but i don't think you know how to use it. No warrior should die in 1 hit, i hope you are exagerating. Otherwise, you suck bad. As you can see, your 1 mill exp means absolutely nothing. Yes, this is a hard mission (hence elite mission). Why don't u try it a few more times before deeming it "waste of time".
Divinus Stella
Divinus Stella
Desert Nomad
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior
Re: "The deep"

I'm a level 20 warrior, with over 1 mill in exp. 100 infused armor, with 14 strength and 16 swordsmanship. 506 health with weapons equipped. Ssaki's sword, customized, and bronze sheild with +30 ehalth and -5 reduced damage. Superior aborb in chest and leggings. I died in one hit.

Waste of time, avoid it if you want my opinion.
wow, 1million exp and you didnt have WY or DS? or even a stance?
I dont think the mission is at fault.
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swiftygem
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
I wouldn't mind them being extra hard. But I do mind them being so long. I tried Urgoz as a monk and after 2 hours my eyes were hurting from all the staring at the 12 slot party window, and still we weren't even halfway through.
But yeah, this looks like a good opportunity to make everyone happy, sort of. Those who always wanted to know how the hell do those mysterious elite missions look like will now know, and they'll stick to the good old non-elite PvE. That's my plan anyway
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azuresun
Frost Gate Guardian
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior
Re: "The deep"

I'm a level 20 warrior, with over 1 mill in exp. 100 infused armor, with 14 strength and 16 swordsmanship. 506 health with weapons equipped. Ssaki's sword, customized, and bronze sheild with +30 ehalth and -5 reduced damage. Superior aborb in chest and leggings. I died in one hit.

Waste of time, avoid it if you want my opinion.
I believe this was intended as "humor".
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by ogami_ito
I don't mean that the mission is designed bad. Its just too hard to do with a pick-up group. I tried doing the elites. I read up on it on this forum and at GW wiki. So my warrior is now a tank with skills I almost never use, like deadly reaposte, etc. My monk healed me and the elementalist nuked and I worked to make sure that I had agro and I didn't over-agro. So we were cool. But everyone else (in the other rooms) keeps dying at the beginning, then bailing. WTF? Its almost as bad as trying to organize for an instance in Wow. At least in Wow, when you sign-off you are at the same place next time you sign on. So there is sort of a penalty (however minor) for leaving the group. It seems that a 12 person group, there is no penalty.

I sort of feel thatthe elite missions are not worth it. Not with a PuG anyway. Too frustrating.
two words: Pugs SUCK.

If you want to enjoy the elite missions do the following: Go only with your friends.

Seriously...it doesnt seem like the problem is with the mission, but rather with the people you've been dealing with.
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by azuresun
I believe this was intended as "humor".
Check his profession.

Anyways, there are crappy PuGs. In one PuG I was just in, One of the Monks was 55 (and still had a Healing skillbar. I don't know how that works) and the Ele didn't have Meteor Shower or even any AoE (he just spammed Immolate and Flare)

I err7ed. But somehow I don't feel guilty.

Bad PuGs exist, but Enchanted Warrior is a good example why they don't work.
bakabum
bakabum
Academy Page
#15
Dear god i hope that was a joke... I've only failed the deep once... on my first try, and that was because they were just teaching me the spawn locations and such... Since then, i've been able to 8man it over and over... W/A Recall ftw.
Sir Skullcrasher
Sir Skullcrasher
Furnace Stoker
#16
go with guildie group or friends? I'm doing elite mission all day tomorrow!
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lagrand1
Wilds Pathfinder
#17
Unfortunately, I don't think it was meant as humor. These missions are totally different from most pve experiences. You need to set up specifically to counter what you will find here.

Not wanting to flame Enchanted Warrior, but other than absorb and vigor, a tank should NEVER have a superior rune, much less a superior rune and a major rune. Without tactics, you lose. Period.
Azrael1309
Azrael1309
Academy Page
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rok
good thing you were infused though, that helps A Lot
Quote:
Originally Posted by Count Feanor
How does infusion help?
I think Rok was being sarcastic.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior
with over 1 mill in exp.
Its amazing what Troll hunting will do. 1 mil xp almost means nothing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior
Superior aborb in chest and leggings.
I don't know about everyone else, but the runes my warrior has are Strength, Tactics, Vigor, Absorbtion, and a Weapon Mastery. You cut something out that could give you a slight edge for an extra Absorb rune that does absolutely nothing.
sLiceR
sLiceR
Lion's Arch Merchant
#19
I pugged happily in the Deep/Urgoz until this event, always made to the boss and killed it without problems (except one time when I err'd 7 at the last room).

Today, I wanted to experiment the double drop thing so I went to the Deep: a lot of players didn't have a clue of what to do, and some of their builds sucked horribly.
The team fall apart at the Aspect of Scorpion Room. I suggest you do not try to play elite mission with pug in this weeked, because you will most likely be loosing your time.
Jetdoc
Jetdoc
Hell's Protector
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by azuresun
I believe this was intended as "humor".
I really hope so, given Enchanted Warrior's other "humorous" post...

Otherwise, I hold out little hope for the typical PuG whammo when I get on tonight.