FOW Abuse

Unfortunately "high level areas" means "ok follow this EXACTLY and you'll finish it", its more about how well you can follow instructions over how well you can think up strategys and play on demand. Id like to see a mission that has several variants and somehow forces the player to think on demand. Maybe some AI that are not as dumb as bricks?

Damit dude read my post I have had ALL the nessassary items multiple times but it dont mean a thing when I could have bought it all on ebay anyway sheeesh!

Im sure they can do it if they focus on PVE for once!!!

It means you look good.

Obsidian Armor means one thing: You have gold/ectos/shards to spend.

Making it harder to get doesnt change that fact that someone will find a way to get it efficienly and farm it to shit.

Its a money sink, it always has been. its not a badge of skill or "leetness".

First of all, does it really matter that "noobs" are wearing FOW armor? If wearing a type of armor is your way of feeling "elite" then well I dont know what to tell you...

Second, How would changing the way you get FOW prevent so called noobs from getting the armor too?

Exactly. The whole armor thing is all about that, the look. GW doesn't punish you much if you prefer wearing collector's armor or...well, 1.5k armor from Kaineng & Drok.

On the other hand, GW also doesn't give you anything much if you prefer wearing oh-so-expensive-yet-sometimes-look-bad FoW armor. It's just you and your own style.

Take some of those titles/armors as examples, survivor title is admirable to someone, but not to me and someone else because of some reasons (let's not going into that). And as you said, I and some other people admire those who have FoW armor, but you don't because some of your reasons.

Even if Anet introduces something unique, some people who couldn't get the thing would still complain and belittling those who could. So, what's the point?

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Arrrggg You dont read do you :

what is the problem with fow armor?...............

no matter what ANET does there will be n00bs and ebayers tha twill get a hold of it. and wanna know what i think? "elite" armors were made ONLY to show off your "financial status" in the game, this is why they have the same mods as 1.5k armors. so yes if omeone wants to show off how rotch they are they buy the armnor for that.

show off skill? well you have the titles, /rank, and common cence. what do you want? when you in town ppl gather around you and /cheer?

anyways, its just anouter flaming thread......

Duh WTF do you think this thread was about.

I certainly did not start it as one but boy Im burning hot now!!

do people still consider 15k armors "elite" in the first place...

ever since ive played the game ive always felt that you just had to pay more for cooler looking skins... hence why they are harder to get...

i don't get into these "elite" clichs...

just cuz u have rare anything doesn't say elite in my mind it just shows that the person is fortunate...

it really only takes a few good drops to turn around into enough money to afford these luxuries... and any newb has the same chance to be fortunate as the most experienced addictive player in GW

Put a 3 fold requirement on entering said area to get the armor. A set amount of exp is needed, a set amount of time played on that character is needed, and a set amount of time for having that character created is needed.

So, only those with (sample numbers) 2 Million Exp, 300 Hours on their character, and a 6 month lifespan on their character, could enter this area in addition to the requirements you already put in place. Yes, I know none of those alone are measurements of skill or whatever, but if you add all three of those, chances are people will play their character enough to kill the 6 month time span (added to prevent afking while logged in to hit the 300 hour mark) and while playing for 6 months a normal person playing 2 hours a day can easily make that. The exp is added so that the person had to have at least gone outside and either killed or watched someone kill some monsters.

Umm, already happening. Group was offering to take people to the Forgemaster for a price, something over 100K, promising that they would not have to do anything except wait for the quests to be finished.

Ok let me try to counter some of your points I could find

I'd still imagine some good guild groups could be able to drag his friends' "newly-made character" through all these quests and what not, and get the armor in the end.

And then his friend happens to be a complete jerk, and can't really listen to the team/do whatever he's supposed to be doing, and also happens to love PUG-ing, with your oh-so-leet armor on himself as well.

So much for leet armor on non-noob huh?

Nope, see above. Or try wearing Canthan 15k set instead. But that'd still mean nothing.

to an ebayer it sounds like this:

#1-6 month lifespan on their character: buy a used account with an old character

#2-2 Million Exp: alot of PWR lvl or see #1


#3-300 hour: afk or see #1

thats my whole point take the materials and the money out of elite armors and make people earn them with thier SKILL, roll players know the best loot is never in town but at the bottom of a dungeon that took many trials and skills to reach guild wars could do the same FT merchants the good stuff is much harder to get!!

*Giggles*

And then we would see another thread titled "l33t armor Abuse". Rinse and repeat.

OK, so one question why are you so against my suggestion

your argument sounds a lot like the one's used by people that don't want to change the social security system, everyone admits there's a problem but doesn't want to change the status quo, okay so what's your suggestion????

I recognize Avarre....