Why are ingame traders so stupid?

I just don't get it... Traders today are getting dumber and dumber. For example, I had a spare sskai sword for sale. I'm going to KC and advertising " WTS Sskais Sword" .... I get whisped "price"?, I said "offer?", he replied " nvm" .... now wtf is this, trading? So I think to myself - I will advertise with a price " WTS Sskai Sword 14k", than I get whisped "how much?" ... What did I forget to mention? If I replied 14k - no thx... O______O ... So I saw this guy spamming "wtb sskai sword 15k"... well later I found him and he said he wtb It. I said - 14k is a deal, he replied - "no 12k".. So I asked him why would he do that since he spammed he pays 15k... Than he replied " 11k" ... now what kind of an idiot is that? AND notice this - after I called him a lousy trader, he said "okay I buy just don't call me names"... So I decided that he realised It would be a good deal lol. Went to him and he showed me another copy of the green, so that I can be sure that he eventually bought it. Now that pisses me off - not only he didn't buy it, but he wasted my time. Ignore list... Than I went in KC - someone said " i buy".... Okay I went to him and I saw some items getting lined up in his part of the trade panel. So I said - It's 14k, I don't need items... Trading session canceled.... OKAY, move on. Went to the Forge. Someone said that want's to BUY it. Well one more time I get some items infront of me... I showed him my hammers so that he can understand that I don't need his. Well trading session canceled. MOVE ON... Finally went back to KC and just stared spamming wts sskai sword 14k until eventually some guy came to see it and paid 13k for it.


Earlier that day I sold the same sword at 15k and it took me exactly 2 minutes with a pretty fast trading. Why must I meet the other kind of... "traders".... :////

Basiclly, try to put yourself at the otherguys place. Doesn't matter IF selling or buying - Imagine your offer goes to you, how'd you react? BE REASONABLE and act like you are not a bot... -.o

People, LEARN TO TRADE!!!!


Oh, forgot to mention one thing... WTH means "no noobs" in the adverts??? Have you ever thought about the fact that even a noob, anyone with real money can have virtual money...? And someone can always give money to a "noob"... If that noob offers you the money u want, would your advert still mean anything to you? And how do you seperate noobs from non-noobs when you trade? If someone tries to actually TRADE and bargain with lower prices, I consider him noob? I don't mean lowballing... I mean slight changes... But hey - no noobs 100k + 10 ecto!! ok ok

This is why we need an auction house.

But imagine a world without forums and auctions to trade with... It's all about ingame traders...

This has nothing to do with auction houses, this is just retarted players.

TBH, there should be a basic english test before you can enter english districts.

Welcome to the world of Internet, n_n.

There is always bad seeds here and there, it's just the way it works.

Some of these guys are pretty dumb. I say WTS 15^50 Hammer, they trade me, offer a 15^50 hammer and say price. Like wth, I said WTS not WTB. Anyways, trading in game is a big hassle. Since theres a bunch of spam nobody reads what you said, some people are just idiots, etc.

Less signal to noise ratio if you sell at one of the trading posts, either here or at gwonline....I've sold some items in these places in less than 15 minutes, during the day at work. People who lurk there will generally pay a lot more than you'd expect, so auction it and add a ridiculous sum for buy out. Some lack the patience to bid and will just buy your item. I got 15K armor doing this.

when i was actively trading, i used the ventari's sell forums and the guru auctions to sell. saved time and allowed me to (usually) avoid fools like what the OP encountered ingame.
and if anyone randomly opened a trade window with me ingame and put some items up, i clicked submit and accept and they always cancelled the trade and went away. (i thought they were giving me gifts. )

It's not about the way they speak, I can understand even though it sometimes annoys me. It's about the way they communicate - they barely do...

ok normally i try to ignore the player oriented rants, but i mean sheesh, they asked you the price when you said it?! My god what is wrong with the players.

That one doesn't mean they're stupid. In fact, the trade channel gets spammed so much that someone is bound to misread that WTS with a WTB because these messages are scrolling around so fast. They can't afford to scroll up and read it again slowly because the trade market is such a fast market. If they don't take the initiative to trade immediately, the item is gone and sold, or the buyer has already found another seller.

But I have to agree with those players who waste your time by doing other horrid things, by that I mean REPEATEDLY.

But I don't mind showing the item to people so that they can check the stats before buying. Some sellers refuse to show me the items they're selling. Why??? For the sake of common sense, why??? How the heck am I supposed to know what you're giving to me if you don't want to show it to me?

I always assume those type of people to be scammers at most.

Traders,those where either dumb or smart,dumb for just not getting it or smart for trying to manipulate you to sell it for less,depends on there intentions.

I do that all the time. I mean, they didn't PM me before hand or talk to me, so obviously they must be offering these wondering unid gold items to me for free

I think the main reason things are the way they are is because it's an unregulated "industry". Without further regulation or help from ANet, I'm afraid it's going to remain this way for a long long time to come.

Bwahaha nice!One sold me some nice daggers for cheap that way though so ofcourse i didnt screw around with him,was a to good opportunity to throw away.

Ive quite possibly had the worst traders ever. I had around 9 people in a row go "how much" Me: "100+30" "No thanks" [Cancel]. Even when i advertise a price everytime in capitalized text it seems everyone asks for prices. Ive gotten ignored by probably 30-40 people the last week due to the fact that i get pissed and b**ch out each person that does it trying to get in their head to read the WHOLE post. But anyways just giving my experience in my in game trading.

I was hanging round in Ascalon english discrict waiting for a guild mate and I saw someone saying wts minipet titan 20k. Good deal I though and as I had 20k in my storage I whispered him I'd buy. So we met by storage and he put up a trade window. After a while I could see he had put something in the window but hadn't pressed submit so I couldn't see it. I asked him to press submit so I could check what it was and then I'd put up my money. No response. So I asked him again and he whispered back 'no worth too much' , closed the window and run off.
He then started spamming it again and so I whispered him and said 'do you want to sell it?', he replied 'yes' so I said 'i'll buy it then'. But no response from him.
A little while later I could see a few more people saying the same things I had said in local so it was obvious he was trying it with other people.
Ok wtf was the point? He didn't seem like a scammer and seemed to really want to sell it for real. But if he had a minipet and didn't know how to use the trade system then he must have got it as a present. But then he must have been over a year old and surly he must have learnt how to use the trade system within that time.
It was just a baffling episode for everyone concecered I think.

bacardi, sometimes you come across ppl who for whatever reason, forget to press the submit button and wait til they see your side of the trade. has happened to me numerous times when i'm buying things ingame. usually after i click submit to offer the payment, they click submit as well. well they have to in order for the trade to proceed. then just check the item before accepting.

I really hate sellers who say "offer" and when you offer just ignore you as your price is too low for them or sellers who wont haggle.

You know what I really h8 about some in game traders? When you're selling a nice or perf item, and someone whispers "Hey I'll take it". Then instead of gold/ectos, they attempt to get your item buy trading a bunch of worthless blue/purp crap and then argue with you that their items are worth your item. I mean when I say "WTS", that doesn't mean I want to trade.