Livingston's Guide to becoming a Grandmaster Canthan Cartographer! (No Map Checks)

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

This title is pure BS, the fog system is crap, there are places in which even checking the 100% map and your map you don't notice the difference.

I'm at 99.9% atm, using also the Eredon exploit, of course without JQ and the Overlook, I've checked every map and spots and I can't see anything noticeable.

I'm sure that my 0.1% is somewhere in a place I already reached, and when I was there facing some wall my mouse was not pointed in the right direction and I missed it ...

I give up trying, there are 2 HUGE areas like Overlook and JQ which will easily give me much more than 0.1%, so I'll patiently wait to find a group for JQ or the next event.

I spent too much time chasing the bits created by some A.net a$$hole. I want to enjoy a videogame, not feel an idiot nerd.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Sry double post ...

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

Looong long time ago, but the link to the "full map" on post #1 seems to have got garbled.

It should be http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars...Ytyrian_HI.jpg

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

OK, I've done, yesterday I was in JQ with 2 computers and my main character on Luxon side and a character of my 2nd accout on kurz side, spamming in my guild/alliance chat and begging all people in my f-list to help me enter the f***ing mission, when all of a sudden it started and 10 secs later I was GMC.

First of all thx to Livingston for the maps and especially for the commonly missed spots, without them I would have never been able to get this title.

But this only confirms how badly designed is Cantha GMC:

- you don't have any clue from the game of what you need to do to complete it

- the fog system is total crap and very misleading, for a lot of spots you never know if what you see on the map is fog or some cleared area

- some points are unfogged only if you go in 1 precise spot and with the mouse oriented in the right direction, otherwise you miss them

- areas that count for the title are closed or cannot be accessed by a single player (I believe to Livingston that they're not strictly required, but without them it becomes pure crazyness, it's like to say that you don't need a computer to handle the mathematical model of a missile because you can do the calculations with pen and paper)

- and many many other idiot things that only the mind of an a$$hole nerd computer programmer can have invented.


So the only viable way is to use an external resource like gwguru. And this is fundamentally wrong.


Now I need 1 more title to KoBD, I hope that Elona will be a different story, otherwise I'll go for sunspear.

Ormiel

Ormiel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Europe

[OLA]

R/

Hi all. I have 95% cantha map and I don't know where I can find last 5% . JQ is hard to explore ;/. Anyone can help me and scan my map?
Thx in advanced .

GWaddict

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Siege Turtles

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ormiel
Hi all. I have 95% cantha map and I don't know where I can find last 5% . JQ is hard to explore ;/. Anyone can help me and scan my map?
Thx in advanced . You do know that its VERY hard to see what your missing if you can't zoom in on it right?

Hanok Odbrook

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

Has anybody noticed a change in % since the update that made the Undercity a separate area for mapping? My first four characters (2 Tyrians and 2 Canthans) are at 99.2-99.3% and had this area explored prior to the update. My Elonian is only at 98.6% and reached Cantha after the update. Comparing maps between characters only shows slight differences for the Imperial Sanctum area (oddly enough my Elonian has all of the non-exploitable area cleared).

I have cleared the Monestary Overlook with each character and only need the Jade Quarry area. Has anyone else noticed any discrepancies like this while mapping. I have also noticed that two characters exploring the exact same area will often be 0.2% different for the title - i.e. the party leader will be .2% ahead in the title progression than the other party members, even if they had unfogged areas first.

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace

Alasse Carnesir

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire

The Knights of Fortitude

R/N

Im at 93.8% and need a hand with all bits i may have missed that arent PVP areas. Thanx.

Nash Vegas

Nash Vegas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

he. i have been using your maps for reference, but now when I click on them I get an error message from the hosting site

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

Thanks so much for this thread! I kept it minimized the entire time I was finishing up Cantha, and it was VERY helpful.

My Tyrian character was able to finish using the open boardwalk this past weekend, and did not have to resort to doing any exploits.

I feel sorta bad for the Luxon team I was on in Ft Aspenwood, for .. sorta running around instead of protting the turtles, but the team won anyway, so hopefully no hard feelings.

Legendary Cartographer now!!! Thank you!!!

pnumm

pnumm

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Crystal Overlook!

[CPSU]

Rt/R

Wow, 100% that easily? I must have been lucky with JQ, beceause I don't even have half of mourning veil falls yet.

Lady Ana Stacia

Lady Ana Stacia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Germany

Beware of our Temper [BooT]

Me/


Another successful GMC using Livingstons Guides

Thank you Livingston for all the hard work on your guides and outings! You will truly be missed!

Draconian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

Eaglescliffe

Ferrets Unity Of Rouges (FUR)

W/Mo

good guide there, i will use it, i only recently got my 60% title, aiming for grandmaster, but i have to go round everywhere with hench, and the enamies can be annoying while wall hugging, any suggestions??

=D

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draconian
good guide there, i will use it, i only recently got my 60% title, aiming for grandmaster, but i have to go round everywhere with hench, and the enamies can be annoying while wall hugging, any suggestions??

=D I have two words for you: Nightfall and Heroes.

I feel like I kind of cheated because I got my last 25% or so in Cantha using heroes and henches whilst scraping walls. I'm more impressed with those who completed 100% without heroes!!

Tyria seemed a lot easier to me, because there were so many zones I could run and scrape by myself with no fighting. In Cantha, I did have to fight a lot more. Heroes ftw.

Good luck.

If you don't want to buy another campaign to get this title, just follow the first page of this thread, it should be enough.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Woooot!



Thank you soooo much livingston.

Elthanor

Elthanor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

IL

A/W

Dang, im so close :|

Could someone help me

lord nihil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Decadence of Grandure

Mo/Me

i have been trying to get this title for about a mounth now.. (95,1%)
can i post my map here and and get someone to pinpoint the places i miss?
if so here is my map


thank you
Nihil

Cirandel

Cirandel

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Finland

[FAR]

R/

Thanks for all those maps in this guide! Just what I needed.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Thanks for the guide.
I did not use much, just hugged the wall and some more, but found one or two spots that made the difference.

And thanks for people submitting 100% maps.
Comparing made my exploration easier.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

I know some people have problems with finding the missing spots.
I have some advice.
- Read posting #1 a couple of times.
- Look at the full screen map at #1 and compare those to your screen (minimap)
- Look at the posting #2 and clear all differences!
- It is possible to compare with the zoomed-out (whole) map and a graphics program (like GIMP), just like the Tyrian and Elona maps.
When you zoom to 200% you can see when there is a difference.
It's sometimes hard to notice the difference, sometimes it's fog.
However, there is a slight difference between fog and unmapped areas.
With a trained eye you can see them at 100%, but they are easier to spot at 200%.

This should get you to 100%.

I think someone is running a Canthan exploration service, don't remember who.

Cirandel

Cirandel

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Finland

[FAR]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elthanor
Dang, im so close :|

Could someone help me I was able to find these missing spots (blue means I'm unsure):
Elthanor's map

Druuna Lightbringer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

[FA]

Mo/

well i'm stuck at 98.1% and i can't find the last % i cant gat access too JQ
but i doubt that will yiel the last %...
so if anyone can help me i would be most delighted

my map is 1280x1024
hope it will help..

kind regards
Druuna

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Druuna, I think Shenzun Tunnels is still covered on your map (west of Sunjian District). Don't know if that's 1.9%, but it's a lot.

Druuna Lightbringer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

[FA]

Mo/

great! it got me .5% so now im that closer
is it true that there is something like 103% total?

kind regards
Druuna

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

I don't know if Cantha is like 103%.
I know I don't have the starting area and a chunk below the final mission outpost. Also I have a few spots in the city here and there, but according to other posts, one of them can't be explored anymore (used to be explored from undercity).
I think that around 101% is more realistic, but then I'm no expert.

Druuna Lightbringer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

[FA]

Mo/

i have huged walls from here to eternity and i still can get the last %
i have tryed the photoshop thing but i cant get it to work for me

i dont wanna spam u guys with posts and maps...but i added my lasted map
can someone please help me?
it would make this wallhugging girl very happy

kind regards
Druuna

Cirandel

Cirandel

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Finland

[FAR]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Druuna Lightbringer
i have huged walls from here to eternity and i still can get the last %
i have tryed the photoshop thing but i cant get it to work for me

i dont wanna spam u guys with posts and maps...but i added my lasted map
can someone please help me?
it would make this wallhugging girl very happy

kind regards
Druuna There you go Blue means I'm unsure.

Druuna Lightbringer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

[FA]

Mo/

Thank u all for helping me out!!
i got some walls that needs a closer look


"hugs"
Druuna

Daldaen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Surpassing the Ordinary [Epic]

Mo/A

I've been at 96% explored in Cantha for some time and I think now is the right time to finish it off, I can't seem to find the locations I'm missing so I was wondering if you all could help. Here is an image in 1024x768, thanks in advance!

http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x...rent=gw167.jpg

Lavitz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

War Force Clan [WFC]

N/Me

im at 98.4% and i cant seem to find anymore that i need on my own. i havnt been able to get into the Jade Quarry in the past week so i know i dont have that but i know its possible to get the title without that so could someone help me out. much appreciated.

edit - i guess it would help if i put the map in here... lol

Freeze_XJ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dutchable Country

Myth of the Phoenix [Myth]

Mo/N

Lavitz n Daldaen, enjoy scouting

Legolas Sindarijns

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

Arvin

R/

I would tnx Livingston and others for this great thread, Ive used it and now I am stuck on the last 0,5% I have tried everything and searched the whole map and cant get more then 99,5% explored

I hope someone can help me out.. that would be great!

here is a picture of my map:


Sorry for my bad English.

Cirandel

Cirandel

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Finland

[FAR]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Legolas Sindarijns

I hope someone can help me out.. that would be great!


Sorry for my bad English. Here you go You asked in the game, here's the answer: I open both maps with Irfanview. zoom them very close, set them exactly in the same spot and start switching. Spots jump out.

Legolas Sindarijns

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

Arvin

R/

Thanks Cirandel for your hard work.. I hope I can get the last 0,5% now
Verty tnx!!

Edit: got 100% now! Tnx to Cirandel!

Freeze_XJ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dutchable Country

Myth of the Phoenix [Myth]

Mo/N

@ Lavitz : one of these areas is Fort Aspenwood, it's like the Jade Quarry, but a slightly higher chance of getting in. Just enter from the Luxon side, and you should be OK.
The other one is the so-called Ereddon Terrace exploit, which should give you an 'end-of-the-world' view, and approx .4% extra. As you have some other places left to do as well, i'd say 100% is not that bad now. Good luck

Circus Midget

Circus Midget

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Right behind you

A/

I'm at 99.7 and I can't find the last percent....but I also don't know how to put the screenshots of my map on here....can anyone help?

Lavitz, it looks like you don't have shing jea arena...you may want to go into there

Lavitz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

War Force Clan [WFC]

N/Me

Wooo! got the erredon terrace exploit, the small bit of Fort Aspenwood i didnt have, and i actually got into jade quarry. TWICE!!! once on each side. and that netted me the 100%. now i have the legendary cartographer title! WOOOO!!!

thanks a lot to all who helped. if it wasnt for the guru forums i never would have gotten any of the 3 titles.

Argentino

Argentino

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Gmt+1

N/

I made it, 100% map exploration!!!!!
It took me some time, comparing maps, hugging walls, hugging walls and hugging walls...

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread, it was a huge help!!!

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

What are all the current 'exploits' in Cantha?

There's the Necrotic Traversal in Raisu Palace (I think that's the place), Death's Charge in Eredon Terrace.

What else?

[EDIT: also, can the Death's Retreat exploit be used anywhere else?]