Livingston's Guide to becoming a Grandmaster Canthan Cartographer! (No Map Checks)
Abnaxus
This title is pure BS, the fog system is crap, there are places in which even checking the 100% map and your map you don't notice the difference.
I'm at 99.9% atm, using also the Eredon exploit, of course without JQ and the Overlook, I've checked every map and spots and I can't see anything noticeable.
I'm sure that my 0.1% is somewhere in a place I already reached, and when I was there facing some wall my mouse was not pointed in the right direction and I missed it ...
I give up trying, there are 2 HUGE areas like Overlook and JQ which will easily give me much more than 0.1%, so I'll patiently wait to find a group for JQ or the next event.
I spent too much time chasing the bits created by some A.net a$$hole. I want to enjoy a videogame, not feel an idiot nerd.
I'm at 99.9% atm, using also the Eredon exploit, of course without JQ and the Overlook, I've checked every map and spots and I can't see anything noticeable.
I'm sure that my 0.1% is somewhere in a place I already reached, and when I was there facing some wall my mouse was not pointed in the right direction and I missed it ...
I give up trying, there are 2 HUGE areas like Overlook and JQ which will easily give me much more than 0.1%, so I'll patiently wait to find a group for JQ or the next event.
I spent too much time chasing the bits created by some A.net a$$hole. I want to enjoy a videogame, not feel an idiot nerd.
Abnaxus
Sry double post ...
Snograt
Looong long time ago, but the link to the "full map" on post #1 seems to have got garbled.
It should be http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars...Ytyrian_HI.jpg
It should be http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars...Ytyrian_HI.jpg
Abnaxus
OK, I've done, yesterday I was in JQ with 2 computers and my main character on Luxon side and a character of my 2nd accout on kurz side, spamming in my guild/alliance chat and begging all people in my f-list to help me enter the f***ing mission, when all of a sudden it started and 10 secs later I was GMC.
First of all thx to Livingston for the maps and especially for the commonly missed spots, without them I would have never been able to get this title.
But this only confirms how badly designed is Cantha GMC:
- you don't have any clue from the game of what you need to do to complete it
- the fog system is total crap and very misleading, for a lot of spots you never know if what you see on the map is fog or some cleared area
- some points are unfogged only if you go in 1 precise spot and with the mouse oriented in the right direction, otherwise you miss them
- areas that count for the title are closed or cannot be accessed by a single player (I believe to Livingston that they're not strictly required, but without them it becomes pure crazyness, it's like to say that you don't need a computer to handle the mathematical model of a missile because you can do the calculations with pen and paper)
- and many many other idiot things that only the mind of an a$$hole nerd computer programmer can have invented.
So the only viable way is to use an external resource like gwguru. And this is fundamentally wrong.
Now I need 1 more title to KoBD, I hope that Elona will be a different story, otherwise I'll go for sunspear.
First of all thx to Livingston for the maps and especially for the commonly missed spots, without them I would have never been able to get this title.
But this only confirms how badly designed is Cantha GMC:
- you don't have any clue from the game of what you need to do to complete it
- the fog system is total crap and very misleading, for a lot of spots you never know if what you see on the map is fog or some cleared area
- some points are unfogged only if you go in 1 precise spot and with the mouse oriented in the right direction, otherwise you miss them
- areas that count for the title are closed or cannot be accessed by a single player (I believe to Livingston that they're not strictly required, but without them it becomes pure crazyness, it's like to say that you don't need a computer to handle the mathematical model of a missile because you can do the calculations with pen and paper)
- and many many other idiot things that only the mind of an a$$hole nerd computer programmer can have invented.
So the only viable way is to use an external resource like gwguru. And this is fundamentally wrong.
Now I need 1 more title to KoBD, I hope that Elona will be a different story, otherwise I'll go for sunspear.
Ormiel
Hi all. I have 95% cantha map and I don't know where I can find last 5%
. JQ is hard to explore ;/. Anyone can help me and scan my map?
Thx in advanced
.
Thx in advanced
GWaddict
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ormiel
Hi all. I have 95% cantha map and I don't know where I can find last 5%
. JQ is hard to explore ;/. Anyone can help me and scan my map?
Thx in advanced
.
You do know that its VERY hard to see what your missing if you can't zoom in on it right?
Thx in advanced
Hanok Odbrook
Has anybody noticed a change in % since the update that made the Undercity a separate area for mapping? My first four characters (2 Tyrians and 2 Canthans) are at 99.2-99.3% and had this area explored prior to the update. My Elonian is only at 98.6% and reached Cantha after the update. Comparing maps between characters only shows slight differences for the Imperial Sanctum area (oddly enough my Elonian has all of the non-exploitable area cleared).
I have cleared the Monestary Overlook with each character and only need the Jade Quarry area. Has anyone else noticed any discrepancies like this while mapping. I have also noticed that two characters exploring the exact same area will often be 0.2% different for the title - i.e. the party leader will be .2% ahead in the title progression than the other party members, even if they had unfogged areas first.
Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace
I have cleared the Monestary Overlook with each character and only need the Jade Quarry area. Has anyone else noticed any discrepancies like this while mapping. I have also noticed that two characters exploring the exact same area will often be 0.2% different for the title - i.e. the party leader will be .2% ahead in the title progression than the other party members, even if they had unfogged areas first.
Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace
Alasse Carnesir
Im at 93.8% and need a hand with all bits i may have missed that arent PVP areas. Thanx.
Nash Vegas
he. i have been using your maps for reference, but now when I click on them I get an error message from the hosting site
Sofonisba
Thanks so much for this thread! I kept it minimized the entire time I was finishing up Cantha, and it was VERY helpful.
My Tyrian character was able to finish using the open boardwalk this past weekend, and did not have to resort to doing any exploits.
I feel sorta bad for the Luxon team I was on in Ft Aspenwood, for .. sorta running around instead of protting the turtles, but the team won anyway, so hopefully no hard feelings.
Legendary Cartographer now!!! Thank you!!!
My Tyrian character was able to finish using the open boardwalk this past weekend, and did not have to resort to doing any exploits.
I feel sorta bad for the Luxon team I was on in Ft Aspenwood, for .. sorta running around instead of protting the turtles, but the team won anyway, so hopefully no hard feelings.

Legendary Cartographer now!!! Thank you!!!
pnumm
Wow, 100% that easily? I must have been lucky with JQ, beceause I don't even have half of mourning veil falls yet.
Lady Ana Stacia

Another successful GMC using Livingstons Guides

Thank you Livingston for all the hard work on your guides and outings! You will truly be missed!
Draconian
good guide there, i will use it, i only recently got my 60% title, aiming for grandmaster, but i have to go round everywhere with hench, and the enamies can be annoying while wall hugging, any suggestions??
=D
=D
Sofonisba
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draconian
good guide there, i will use it, i only recently got my 60% title, aiming for grandmaster, but i have to go round everywhere with hench, and the enamies can be annoying while wall hugging, any suggestions??
=D I have two words for you: Nightfall and Heroes.
I feel like I kind of cheated because I got my last 25% or so in Cantha using heroes and henches whilst scraping walls. I'm more impressed with those who completed 100% without heroes!!
Tyria seemed a lot easier to me, because there were so many zones I could run and scrape by myself with no fighting. In Cantha, I did have to fight a lot more. Heroes ftw.
Good luck.
If you don't want to buy another campaign to get this title, just follow the first page of this thread, it should be enough.
=D I have two words for you: Nightfall and Heroes.
I feel like I kind of cheated because I got my last 25% or so in Cantha using heroes and henches whilst scraping walls. I'm more impressed with those who completed 100% without heroes!!
Tyria seemed a lot easier to me, because there were so many zones I could run and scrape by myself with no fighting. In Cantha, I did have to fight a lot more. Heroes ftw.
Good luck.
If you don't want to buy another campaign to get this title, just follow the first page of this thread, it should be enough.
bhavv
Woooot!
Thank you soooo much livingston.
Thank you soooo much livingston.
Elthanor
Dang, im so close :|
Could someone help me
Could someone help me
lord nihil
i have been trying to get this title for about a mounth now.. (95,1%)
can i post my map here and and get someone to pinpoint the places i miss?
if so here is my map
thank you
Nihil
can i post my map here and and get someone to pinpoint the places i miss?
if so here is my map
thank you
Nihil
Cirandel
Thanks for all those maps in this guide! Just what I needed.
the_jos
Thanks for the guide.
I did not use much, just hugged the wall and some more, but found one or two spots that made the difference.
And thanks for people submitting 100% maps.
Comparing made my exploration easier.
I did not use much, just hugged the wall and some more, but found one or two spots that made the difference.
And thanks for people submitting 100% maps.
Comparing made my exploration easier.
the_jos
I know some people have problems with finding the missing spots.
I have some advice.
- Read posting #1 a couple of times.
- Look at the full screen map at #1 and compare those to your screen (minimap)
- Look at the posting #2 and clear all differences!
- It is possible to compare with the zoomed-out (whole) map and a graphics program (like GIMP), just like the Tyrian and Elona maps.
When you zoom to 200% you can see when there is a difference.
It's sometimes hard to notice the difference, sometimes it's fog.
However, there is a slight difference between fog and unmapped areas.
With a trained eye you can see them at 100%, but they are easier to spot at 200%.
This should get you to 100%.
I think someone is running a Canthan exploration service, don't remember who.
I have some advice.
- Read posting #1 a couple of times.
- Look at the full screen map at #1 and compare those to your screen (minimap)
- Look at the posting #2 and clear all differences!
- It is possible to compare with the zoomed-out (whole) map and a graphics program (like GIMP), just like the Tyrian and Elona maps.
When you zoom to 200% you can see when there is a difference.
It's sometimes hard to notice the difference, sometimes it's fog.
However, there is a slight difference between fog and unmapped areas.
With a trained eye you can see them at 100%, but they are easier to spot at 200%.
This should get you to 100%.
I think someone is running a Canthan exploration service, don't remember who.
Cirandel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elthanor
Dang, im so close :|
Could someone help me I was able to find these missing spots (blue means I'm unsure):
Elthanor's map
Could someone help me I was able to find these missing spots (blue means I'm unsure):
Elthanor's map
Druuna Lightbringer
well i'm stuck at 98.1% and i can't find the last % i cant gat access too JQ
but i doubt that will yiel the last %...
so if anyone can help me i would be most delighted
my map is 1280x1024
hope it will help..
kind regards
Druuna
but i doubt that will yiel the last %...
so if anyone can help me i would be most delighted

my map is 1280x1024
hope it will help..
kind regards
Druuna
the_jos
Druuna, I think Shenzun Tunnels is still covered on your map (west of Sunjian District). Don't know if that's 1.9%, but it's a lot.
Druuna Lightbringer
great! it got me .5% so now im that closer 
is it true that there is something like 103% total?
kind regards
Druuna
is it true that there is something like 103% total?
kind regards
Druuna
the_jos
I don't know if Cantha is like 103%.
I know I don't have the starting area and a chunk below the final mission outpost. Also I have a few spots in the city here and there, but according to other posts, one of them can't be explored anymore (used to be explored from undercity).
I think that around 101% is more realistic, but then I'm no expert.
I know I don't have the starting area and a chunk below the final mission outpost. Also I have a few spots in the city here and there, but according to other posts, one of them can't be explored anymore (used to be explored from undercity).
I think that around 101% is more realistic, but then I'm no expert.
Druuna Lightbringer
i have huged walls from here to eternity and i still can get the last %
i have tryed the photoshop thing but i cant get it to work for me
i dont wanna spam u guys with posts and maps...but i added my lasted map
can someone please help me?
it would make this wallhugging girl very happy
kind regards
Druuna
i have tryed the photoshop thing but i cant get it to work for me
i dont wanna spam u guys with posts and maps...but i added my lasted map
can someone please help me?
it would make this wallhugging girl very happy

kind regards
Druuna
Cirandel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Druuna Lightbringer
i have huged walls from here to eternity and i still can get the last %
i have tryed the photoshop thing but i cant get it to work for me
i dont wanna spam u guys with posts and maps...but i added my lasted map
can someone please help me?
it would make this wallhugging girl very happy
kind regards
Druuna There you go
Blue means I'm unsure.
i have tryed the photoshop thing but i cant get it to work for me
i dont wanna spam u guys with posts and maps...but i added my lasted map
can someone please help me?
it would make this wallhugging girl very happy

kind regards
Druuna There you go
Druuna Lightbringer
Thank u all for helping me out!! 
i got some walls that needs a closer look
"hugs"
Druuna

i got some walls that needs a closer look
"hugs"
Druuna
Daldaen
I've been at 96% explored in Cantha for some time and I think now is the right time to finish it off, I can't seem to find the locations I'm missing so I was wondering if you all could help. Here is an image in 1024x768, thanks in advance!
http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x...rent=gw167.jpg
http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x...rent=gw167.jpg
Lavitz
im at 98.4% and i cant seem to find anymore that i need on my own. i havnt been able to get into the Jade Quarry in the past week so i know i dont have that but i know its possible to get the title without that so could someone help me out. much appreciated.
edit - i guess it would help if i put the map in here... lol
edit - i guess it would help if i put the map in here... lol
Freeze_XJ
Lavitz n Daldaen, enjoy scouting
Legolas Sindarijns
I would tnx Livingston and others for this great thread, Ive used it and now I am stuck on the last 0,5% I have tried everything and searched the whole map and cant get more then 99,5% explored
I hope someone can help me out.. that would be great!
here is a picture of my map:
Sorry for my bad English.
I hope someone can help me out.. that would be great!

here is a picture of my map:
Sorry for my bad English.
Cirandel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legolas Sindarijns
I hope someone can help me out.. that would be great!

Sorry for my bad English. Here you go

Lavitz
i went mapping all day and got to 99.0% and i have a few questions.
first, refer to the first map. Everything circled in Yellow, i am not sure how to map those areas. if anyone could let me know i would be very grateful. next, refer to the second map, could anyone help me out by letting me know what i still need to get. i think i hit most of the spots circled in the first map other than jade quarry (sat in there for 2 hours... /sigh). again this is much appreciated. thanks in advance.
first, refer to the first map. Everything circled in Yellow, i am not sure how to map those areas. if anyone could let me know i would be very grateful. next, refer to the second map, could anyone help me out by letting me know what i still need to get. i think i hit most of the spots circled in the first map other than jade quarry (sat in there for 2 hours... /sigh). again this is much appreciated. thanks in advance.
Legolas Sindarijns
Thanks Cirandel for your hard work..
I hope I can get the last 0,5% now
Verty tnx!!
Edit: got 100% now! Tnx to Cirandel!
Verty tnx!!

Edit: got 100% now! Tnx to Cirandel!
Freeze_XJ
@ Lavitz : one of these areas is Fort Aspenwood, it's like the Jade Quarry, but a slightly higher chance of getting in. Just enter from the Luxon side, and you should be OK.
The other one is the so-called Ereddon Terrace exploit, which should give you an 'end-of-the-world' view, and approx .4% extra. As you have some other places left to do as well, i'd say 100% is not that bad now. Good luck
The other one is the so-called Ereddon Terrace exploit, which should give you an 'end-of-the-world' view, and approx .4% extra. As you have some other places left to do as well, i'd say 100% is not that bad now. Good luck
Circus Midget
I'm at 99.7 and I can't find the last percent....but I also don't know how to put the screenshots of my map on here....can anyone help?
Lavitz, it looks like you don't have shing jea arena...you may want to go into there
Lavitz, it looks like you don't have shing jea arena...you may want to go into there
Lavitz
Wooo! got the erredon terrace exploit, the small bit of Fort Aspenwood i didnt have, and i actually got into jade quarry. TWICE!!! once on each side. and that netted me the 100%. now i have the legendary cartographer title! WOOOO!!!
thanks a lot to all who helped. if it wasnt for the guru forums i never would have gotten any of the 3 titles.
thanks a lot to all who helped. if it wasnt for the guru forums i never would have gotten any of the 3 titles.
Argentino
I made it, 100% map exploration!!!!!

It took me some time, comparing maps, hugging walls, hugging walls and hugging walls...
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread, it was a huge help!!!


It took me some time, comparing maps, hugging walls, hugging walls and hugging walls...
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread, it was a huge help!!!
Asrial
What are all the current 'exploits' in Cantha?
There's the Necrotic Traversal in Raisu Palace (I think that's the place), Death's Charge in Eredon Terrace.
What else?
[EDIT: also, can the Death's Retreat exploit be used anywhere else?]
There's the Necrotic Traversal in Raisu Palace (I think that's the place), Death's Charge in Eredon Terrace.
What else?
[EDIT: also, can the Death's Retreat exploit be used anywhere else?]