Shiro'ken Farming

ChrisCo

ChrisCo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

[ToR]

W/

all i can say is wow...but one question what is the first skill on your bar

Dan Backblade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Rogues to Riches [RtR]

Me/Mo

My guildie and I discovered that you can't use wand or staff because then the sins do shadow shroud on you!

DEVILMAN

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Disciple's of Sunset [DusK]

W/Me

Sektor this works in UW with a ranger useing Famine and EoE though its not quite as affective as the standard SS/SV necro duo. kinda slow against the Aatxe's as you dont have that many on you so not as much energy denial. Works well on the smites though.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DEVILMAN
Sektor this works in UW with a ranger useing Famine and EoE though its not quite as affective as the standard SS/SV necro duo. kinda slow against the Aatxe's as you dont have that many on you so not as much energy denial. Works well on the smites though.
Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisCo
all i can say is wow...but one question what is the first skill on your bar spirit bond

by the way i dont use vital blessing just have it incase i get owned while a gold drops for me and i dont have enough health or something...

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
Mo/Me
12 Illusion
12 Protection
3 Inspiration

Protective Spirit
Protective Bond
Sympthatic Visage
Ancestors Visage
Mantra of Resolve
Balthazar's Spirit
Essense Bond

Cast Essence Bond and Balthazar's Spirit at the beginning. Before heading into them make sure you have 20 energy, cast protective Spirit and Protective Bond on yourself. Run all the way into them up to the last mob. After aggroing the last mob (you should have past alteast 2 mobs) move back next to where the rangers are standing that were following you from previous mobs. The warriors will move in to attack. Do this while maintaining Prot Bond and Prot Spirit. Why do you use Protective Bond?

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrGuildBoi
Why do you use Protective Bond? typo i should have changed it that if it wasn't for laggy forums..

mss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Still Bad At A Dead Game [LaG]

E/

Nice tip, and FYI: Me/Mo and Mo/Me aren't the only combinations that can farm this

Granted they're probably better/faster/more reliable than that I'm using, but my monk isn't that far yet >.>

Son of Urza

Son of Urza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'm the guy right behind you staring through your head . . . .

W/

I like the huge purple cloud of Visage triggers around them. Looks like they have a REALLY bad case of Miasma or something . . .

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Urza
I like the huge purple cloud of Visage triggers around them. Looks like they have a REALLY bad case of Miasma or something . . . definatly the easist the least annoying the most robotic farms out there... very efficient location.. good job for posting

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
typo i should have changed it that if it wasn't for laggy forums.. Hehe, I still see Protective Bond in your instruction paragraph thing.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrGuildBoi
Hehe, I still see Protective Bond in your instruction paragraph thing. at work ill change it eventually ...

pryzmatik2

pryzmatik2

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Armpit

RFE

I'm using your build ||sektor||, but how do you kill the rangers? They don't seem to die for me... Everything else dies though.

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by pryzmatik2
I'm using your build ||sektor||, but how do you kill the rangers? They don't seem to die for me... Everything else dies though. I'd say you're probably going to be left with a few rangers. If you can get the warriors and assassins to fight near a ranger mob then the SV/AV energy drain will kill any ranger in the area. However, since there are at least a few rangers in each mob some will likely spread out and be away from the AoE of SV/AV and won't die.

Leave 'em and collect your loot.

mss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Still Bad At A Dead Game [LaG]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pryzmatik2
I'm using your build ||sektor||, but how do you kill the rangers? They don't seem to die for me... Everything else dies though. Gee, standing next to them so the AoE from SV/AV triggering affects them too couldn't possibly work...




Really, that's all you have to do. Group up the melee characters, run back so the rangers are clumped, then run slightly past the rangers so the melee characters are standing next to them.

pryzmatik2

pryzmatik2

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Armpit

RFE

Quote:
Originally Posted by mss
Gee, standing next to them so the AoE from SV/AV triggering affects them too couldn't possibly work...




Really, that's all you have to do. Group up the melee characters, run back so the rangers are clumped, then run slightly past the rangers so the melee characters are standing next to them. No need to get wise with me, I was under the influence that the effects of the visages only applied to the attacker.

Vermilion

Vermilion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

NY

Well I spent a few hours using sektors build on my monk and mesmer...its for some reason easier on my monk but my mes needs the skillpoints..
For the day, I ended up with about..
3 golds..2 GFB's and 1 Platinum longbow..bow was only one worth keeping..
100+ Soul stones..
17kish in gold (400-1k per run for me)
5 skill points..12 runs with berserkers scrolls didn't seem to help much..

I was too busy not dying to aggro the rangers..I typically left far too many alive..anyway <3 the build, etc, since its the only thing my mes can farm.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pryzmatik2
No need to get wise with me, I was under the influence that the effects of the visages only applied to the attacker. you move up till u aggro all groups move bak to the rangers that follow you.. stand around them so the warriors follow to you. Kill them with edenial with teh warriors.

But if they are very much a problem then dont kill them .. i don't bother with killing the rangers.

pryzmatik2

pryzmatik2

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Armpit

RFE

Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
you move up till u aggro all groups move bak to the rangers that follow you.. stand around them so the warriors follow to you. Kill them with edenial with teh warriors.

But if they are very much a problem then dont kill them .. i don't bother with killing the rangers. Yep, working fine now. There are still alot of runs where they strip Mantra of Resolve right after I cast it, and then the visages get interrupted. (Sometimes Spirit Bond / Protective Spirit gets interrupted too)

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pryzmatik2
Yep, working fine now. There are still alot of runs where they strip Mantra of Resolve right after I cast it, and then the visages get interrupted. (Sometimes Spirit Bond / Protective Spirit gets interrupted too) yea i know.... sometimes it gets annoying

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

I had a problem where Warrior's were staying alive, as they wouldnt die as fast as the Sin's/Ranger's that I would stay near. In order to remedy this, I brought SOJ along for the KD (works fine even at low smiting):

Prot Spirit
Spirit Bond
Ancestor's
MoR
Sympathetic
SOJ
Essence Bond
Balth Spirit

I cast SOJ ~2 seconds after I apply Sympathetic. This causes the energy drain to be a bit more staggered, allowing the Warriors to die at the same time. (no need for MoR as they have no energy)

This place is also good for xp grinding, though the <100% success rate does get annoying.

Ecomancer

Ecomancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

The build would have been a lot more useful had there been more shirokens to kill. I was set to try a ss reckless haste build using prot spirit and spirit bond with essence bond and balthazar spirit for energy - but too lazy =)
Thanks to the OP for sharing his build.

XanderWhilkes

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Thanks for this!

I spent several hours today running this area with my Me/Mo and had
a blast. It was so quick that it was addicting. I would do a run thinking it was my last one, but it would finish so quickly that I'd do another one.
The one problem for me is that I'm aligned with the Luxons and the Kurzicks held the Harvest Temple the whole time I was running this. I would have to hop over to another area to sell off my loot.

I got two Golden Phoenix Blades (One +15% enchanted req 9, the other req12 that I plan on using with my IW build) as well as a couple of other golds that weren't worth much. I probably netted 5 skill points or so.

I had considered bringin SoJ since the build didn't have any elites, but I haven't tried it yet. Once they were all aggroed, I would turn back to the ranger clump behind me and hit Mantra of Resolve and Sympathetic Visages immediately after. MoR would get stripped, but last long enough to let me get SV off. The majority would be dead before the first SV ran out, but anyone left wouldn't have enough energy to interrupt AV. I would usually only have two rangers left alive at the end of a run. It took me a bit to think of looping around to clump up with the rangers.

I only ran with my pants and shoes from my 55 15lvl armor with two superior runes in them and the PS/SB combo worked beautifully.
So if anyone here saw the shirtless male Me/Mo named Ender Alexander, that was me. While there, there was a fairly constant stream of Me/Mo and Mo/Me's running out of the Temple.

Thanks again!

*edit*
I did get a couple of nice looking Platinum Wands. I don't know how much they are worth, but I will probably use one that I got for my Ele who is still back on the Island. It was Earth req9 with either 9 or 10% chance of skill recharge. Nothing great, but they look so nice. The other was Communing 10 req with +5^50 energy and something like Divine Favor +1(16%) or something.

Phantom Gun

Phantom Gun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Minion Bombing in Elona

The Drunken Dragons [DRNK]

Rt/N

Nice. I spent an hour trying this out. Usually worked good until I was low on enemies then I would die so I could only grab some of the loot. Got a few purple items as well. Thanks for posting this.

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

*rushes his mesmer through Factions*

Dean Wormer

Dean Wormer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

Thanks a lot. I did it with my Mo/Me and it works wonders. I've gotten a couple purples and a gold drop so far. I make about 2k per run which isn't bad at all.

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Okay the XP grinding here is insane...

With a double XP scroll I got 8,352 XP. Thats better then half a skill point, on a run that can be done in under 2 minutes! With a triple XP scroll I would have gotten 12,528 XP. Thats 10 skill points (150k XP) in an hour USING NO SCROLLS.

So, um yeah. Stockpiling skill points for Nightfall, anyone?

Oh, and I am working on optimizing the build (in terms of run success more so then speed), Ill let you know how it turns out.

Dan Backblade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Rogues to Riches [RtR]

Me/Mo

For the mo/me Blessed Aura is very useful because that can save your life in case of an interrupt (more time to get the enchants back up).

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Backblade
For the mo/me Blessed Aura is very useful because that can save your life in case of an interrupt (more time to get the enchants back up). Yeah, what Ive found myself doing is dropping Mantra of Resolve and replacing it with.... Distortion.

On my Monk primary Distortion drains 2 per miss, and my enchants give me back 2 energy per hit. So, on average, I loose one energy per attempted attack against me. The block percentage still gives me a hefty chance to block interupts while its up, and even better, it will stay up longer due to the 75% failure rate Wild Strike now faces.

Distortion will quickly end due to energy drain, but if you fail to cast Ancestor's, then you can always attempt to cast Sympathetic a few seconds later rather then 20+ like with MoR.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
Yeah, what Ive found myself doing is dropping Mantra of Resolve and replacing it with.... Distortion.

On my Monk primary Distortion drains 2 per miss, and my enchants give me back 2 energy per hit. So, on average, I loose one energy per attempted attack against me. The block percentage still gives me a hefty chance to block interupts while its up, and even better, it will stay up longer due to the 75% failure rate Wild Strike now faces.

Distortion will quickly end due to energy drain, but if you fail to cast Ancestor's, then you can always attempt to cast Sympathetic a few seconds later rather then 20+ like with MoR. Nice ill have to try it.. i usually hit mantra of resolve far before aggroing all groups for some reason it stays on if you do that.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

I also use IW and conjure phantasm for theose pesky singles that sometimes r left. I dont use dist or mantra and ive tried archane echo the visages gives u three to use if 1 gets dist rupted. but since i seem to think they trigger there dist shots on u after u hit prot spirit when ur in i hit a visage before i hit my second prot spirit. i have less distruptions and with IW and CP it really dont matter if they have famine up or not lol.

whobitz

whobitz

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

This build is insanely fun, good job on it...Let's just hope they don't add mesmers or something...

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Is it just me or have the assasins suddenly Started casting Shroud of distress like theyve never seen the skill before. My Last few runs have been disasters with the shrouds ruining my enchant casting

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by scrinner
Is it just me or have the assasins suddenly Started casting Shroud of distress like theyve never seen the skill before. My Last few runs have been disasters with the shrouds ruining my enchant casting are you using a wand or staff? if so thats the problem try using an axe or sword. i have yet to see Shroud while using an axe or sword. hope that helps

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by scrinner
Is it just me or have the assasins suddenly Started casting Shroud of distress like theyve never seen the skill before. My Last few runs have been disasters with the shrouds ruining my enchant casting totem axe ftw

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
totem axe ftw NOT

FFS FTW extra mile

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Thanks for posting this up ^^ i spent all day yesterday farming those shiro'ken with my Mo/Me and its really fun. I got 5 rares, 3 are usable (1 oni sword, 1 set of oni daggers, 1 set of korambits) and oodles of soul stones and a few skill points.

I actually started with just my kephket's refuge, i had to cast between shrouds...boy that was hard!! Till somene told me to use a melee weapon >.> so i borrowed a Razajan's Fervor.

I still get some lone Shiroken Rangers or Warriors or Sins who were just outside the prime range of Visage (thank you lag for ruining my pulls -.- ), i might bring IW as suggested.

I think double visage is gonna be permanent part of my spirit bond farming build ^^

Those wardens are gonna get it >.>

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Im using a Totem axe but i have not seen them cast shroud of silence tell today, guess ill try it again a few times

Horible

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Horible and Hex [Own]

R/

Is there any other proffesions that can farm it? all i got is a ranger there, but im workin my monk there also.

Gonna experiment after i win halls ;-p J/k


Horible

TheMadKingGeorge

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

Mo/W

i might say a monk, ripost, glad defence. deadly ripost might be bale to would take ages though probally

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

This is what I've been running:

http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showp...1&postcount=17

Though reading through this I might be tempted into dropping MoR for Distortion. I'll have to try it out tonight.