Shiro'ken Farming
pegasux
yeah i'm off to farm elsewhere for a few hours so this farm code will wear off...lol. guess i better limit myself to 10 runs an hour or something.
onerabbit
Just done 2 last missions, ganna go back, and try again. hope i get more gds
Dun a few runs, just getting collectables
Still nothing, ganna go do sum chest runs
Na still nothing :\ il try again in the morning.
Dun a few runs, just getting collectables
Still nothing, ganna go do sum chest runs
Na still nothing :\ il try again in the morning.
Orinn
Thanks for this build. it works well in FA kurzick side to hold turtle groups off. With 4 luxon warriors on you, the energy drain adds up for them AND the turtle. I held a group of warriors for he entire match. I keepp getting insulted for running this build, though...
byteme!
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Originally Posted by MercuriusTerMaxum
I found using Illusion of Weakness and shing jea enchanters armor helpful, the extra energy and emergency healing are useful.
I tried IoW and I found that if I'm interupted I'm pretty much dead anyways. An extra 200hp does nothing when you're surrounded by the entire mob of lvl 28 Shiro'Ken. Blessed Aura however buys me more time in case I do get interupted. +20% from my Totem Axe and +28% from Blessed Aura lengthens my enchantments quite nicely. My PS lasts for approximately 30 seconds and SB lasts about 12 seconds I believe. (figures not exact but close) Distortion > MoR because of the shorter recharge IMO also.
As far as XP is concerned it's bloody amazing. Sometimes the spawns are bad and you can't group them all. (Rangers, Assassins and Warriors) But 9/10 I can aggro the whole mob and pull them back so the Rangers are grouped together before I turn around and combine the meleers and Rangers.
As far as XP is concerned it's bloody amazing. Sometimes the spawns are bad and you can't group them all. (Rangers, Assassins and Warriors) But 9/10 I can aggro the whole mob and pull them back so the Rangers are grouped together before I turn around and combine the meleers and Rangers.
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by Orinn
Thanks for this build. it works well in FA kurzick side to hold turtle groups off. With 4 luxon warriors on you, the energy drain adds up for them AND the turtle. I held a group of warriors for he entire match. I keepp getting insulted for running this build, though...
My Luxon necro will be looking for you. 
byteme!
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Originally Posted by Orinn
I keepp getting insulted for running this build, though...
Only people who are unskilled and who can't deal with certain builds resort to insults. It makes them feel better despite the fact they suck.
byteme!
Since NO ONE has brought this up I'll assume I'm the first to think of this. Without PS activated the Shiro'Ken do well over 100+ dmg per hit easily with the lowest armor you can get. Now I haven't done the calculations but it's safe to say we don't need the lowest armor. All we need is armor levels to be low enough to trigger Spirit Bond. With this in mind I've thought about using "Mark of Protection" since it heals me 64hp per hit for 10 seconds with 16 in Protection. Since this Shiro'Ken build does not have an elite anyways why not put MoP in? It buys me 10 seconds more in case I get interupted. On paper it seems like it might work. Only problem is finding the right armor levels to work in conjunction with the 64hp per hit I'll be getting from MoP. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.
ubermancer
12 seconds, it buys you 12 seconds. Good idea.
Orinn
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Originally Posted by MelechRic
My Luxon necro will be looking for you.
Yeah. I played one match, and for some reason, a necro on the other side was running Lingering Curse. that hurt. Anything else, and the healing from spirit bond just completely overpowers damage. Lifesteal isn't even a problem. It doesn't trigger SB, but the luxon warriors are too dumb to know to STOP HITTING THE MONK!
I have 466 HP. 46 damage, 96 heal. Every swing, from 4 hammer warriors. it's fun.
I have 466 HP. 46 damage, 96 heal. Every swing, from 4 hammer warriors. it's fun.
ubermancer
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Originally Posted by MercuriusTerMaxum
[...] and slower at gaining exp for mesmer (I think) then the echo SoJ build I use for minos.[...]
Got a link I think you should check out: http://tinyurl.com/ru6qz
byteme!
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Originally Posted by ubermancer
12 seconds, it buys you 12 seconds. Good idea.
Only if you include a 20% enchant bonus. Otherwise Mark of Protection lasts 10 seconds. I'm assuming that's what you meant.
XanderWhilkes
Good grief, I have to thank you for this build/idea one more time. Over the last few days I've gained over 500k experience and 250k gold from selling to merchant/other players. I got tired of spamming WTS and took less than what some of the items were worth and still made a killing! I think I made 15k+ alone selling Stone Souls. 7.5k per stack of 250.
Now, if only I could break my Shiro'Ken farming addiction to get my Monk down to the Harvest Temple, that would be great. It's like "Aww.. one more time then I'll go do something else".. "That went quick.. how about another run?"
Now, if only I could break my Shiro'Ken farming addiction to get my Monk down to the Harvest Temple, that would be great. It's like "Aww.. one more time then I'll go do something else".. "That went quick.. how about another run?"
manitoba1073
MoP does work tried it for awhile didnt care for it went back to IW and conjure nightmare lol\
also u can goto imperial sanctum and solo them there too if u guys didnt know alrdy
also u can goto imperial sanctum and solo them there too if u guys didnt know alrdy
Symeon
The main threats in this run are the interrupts. Debilitating shot won't get your energy down as long as you stop occasionally to let the melee enemies hit you.
To counter the interrupts the obvious choice is Mantra of Resolve. However, this can be removed by the Warrior's Wild Blow... sometimes they do it instantly after you cast, sometimes they don't do it at all. When you cast SV (or AV), put on Mantra of Resolve right before it. And by that I mean, pressing the number for MoR and the number for SV immediately after. Only if you're really unlucky will you get interrupted.
As for Spirit Bond and Protective Spirit being interrupted, it's a pain and it's quite silly that they can manage to interrupt a fast-casted 1/4 second spell at all. But while running try to cast these when a fair distance away from the melee enemies at least, so they can't get in Disrupting Stabs and whatever else they have. Distracting Shot shouldn't interrupt you anyway unless you have no fast-cast or you're right beside a ranger.
Also, watch out for the melee enemies lagging. Sometimes they'll all stop about 10 feet away from you, but still be attacking.
Thanks for this build... it's netted me a nice amount of gold in a few hours
To counter the interrupts the obvious choice is Mantra of Resolve. However, this can be removed by the Warrior's Wild Blow... sometimes they do it instantly after you cast, sometimes they don't do it at all. When you cast SV (or AV), put on Mantra of Resolve right before it. And by that I mean, pressing the number for MoR and the number for SV immediately after. Only if you're really unlucky will you get interrupted.
As for Spirit Bond and Protective Spirit being interrupted, it's a pain and it's quite silly that they can manage to interrupt a fast-casted 1/4 second spell at all. But while running try to cast these when a fair distance away from the melee enemies at least, so they can't get in Disrupting Stabs and whatever else they have. Distracting Shot shouldn't interrupt you anyway unless you have no fast-cast or you're right beside a ranger.
Also, watch out for the melee enemies lagging. Sometimes they'll all stop about 10 feet away from you, but still be attacking.
Thanks for this build... it's netted me a nice amount of gold in a few hours
onerabbit
Just went out, and there wanst a famine in sight :\ dunno if it was just a bad run... getting famines again now
False alarm
so far ive made 80k! and 700k XP in 1 night and 1 morining
False alarm
so far ive made 80k! and 700k XP in 1 night and 1 morining
MercuriusTerMaxum
I kept exact record of 65 runs, seling everything after each run and writing down the total.
The average amount of gold per run is:
1014 (1013.6461538461538461538461538462)
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Originally Posted by byteme
The average amount of gold per run is:
1014 (1013.6461538461538461538461538462)
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I tried IoW and I found that if I'm interupted I'm pretty much dead anyways. An extra 200hp does nothing when you're surrounded by the entire mob of lvl 28 Shiro'Ken.
IoW isn't for inturrupts, it's more for when spirit bond goes down for a second or ps, and you need a seond to quickly recast.
after a few hundred runs (240k worth) this is what I'm running:
armor: shing jea ascalon enchanters, illusion headpiece (I see no reason to go naked if it's easier to use shitty armor)
Runes:maj illusion, sup fast casting, minor insperation, minor vigor
Health:400
Attribs:
FC: 6 +3
Illusion: 9 +2 +1
Insperation: 7 +1
Prot: 12
FC healps alot with the inturrupts also.
skills:
PS
SB
AV
SV
MoR
Bals Spirit
Essence bond
IoW
Equipment: Fiery Flame Spitter of Enchanting (10% recharge 20% enchanting)
The rockmolder (10% recharge Illusion +1 20%)
I switched sets a few times, I found the 10 recharge on ffs to be more handy then the +5e on the totem. If only they didnt nurf pre-nurf rockmolders :/
For me the key is having a visage, ps, sb, and MoR up while agroing, wait a second and cast MoR and recast SB SV/AV PS, this way the sins mana is drained so they cant wild stab or disrupt and MoR protects from savage shot. Using MoR>sv/av fast works well if the visage is down as the sins will be wild stabing when you are casting the important enchant, once sv is up you are fairly safe from ints. You can actually recast IoW in battle once you are under attack and you will be instantly healed from the sac due to the wonders of SB. There have been runs where I needed to cast it 3 times, as any good mesmer knows if you need to recast IoW and it wasnt stripped that means it saved your ass. At any rate it's a very good farm, and with a little finesse, proper agro management, and good timing you should have a very low failure rate.
after a few hundred runs (240k worth) this is what I'm running:
armor: shing jea ascalon enchanters, illusion headpiece (I see no reason to go naked if it's easier to use shitty armor)
Runes:maj illusion, sup fast casting, minor insperation, minor vigor
Health:400
Attribs:
FC: 6 +3
Illusion: 9 +2 +1
Insperation: 7 +1
Prot: 12
FC healps alot with the inturrupts also.
skills:
PS
SB
AV
SV
MoR
Bals Spirit
Essence bond
IoW
Equipment: Fiery Flame Spitter of Enchanting (10% recharge 20% enchanting)
The rockmolder (10% recharge Illusion +1 20%)
I switched sets a few times, I found the 10 recharge on ffs to be more handy then the +5e on the totem. If only they didnt nurf pre-nurf rockmolders :/
For me the key is having a visage, ps, sb, and MoR up while agroing, wait a second and cast MoR and recast SB SV/AV PS, this way the sins mana is drained so they cant wild stab or disrupt and MoR protects from savage shot. Using MoR>sv/av fast works well if the visage is down as the sins will be wild stabing when you are casting the important enchant, once sv is up you are fairly safe from ints. You can actually recast IoW in battle once you are under attack and you will be instantly healed from the sac due to the wonders of SB. There have been runs where I needed to cast it 3 times, as any good mesmer knows if you need to recast IoW and it wasnt stripped that means it saved your ass. At any rate it's a very good farm, and with a little finesse, proper agro management, and good timing you should have a very low failure rate.
MercuriusTerMaxum
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Originally Posted by ubermancer
Got a link I think you should check out: http://tinyurl.com/ru6qz
Got a link I think you should check out:
perhaps now you can figure out the meaning of my post as it seems you were unable to read(or comprehend) the whole thing. hell '(I think)' was even in your quote.
Here is your golden ass award.
perhaps now you can figure out the meaning of my post as it seems you were unable to read(or comprehend) the whole thing. hell '(I think)' was even in your quote.
Here is your golden ass award.
MercuriusTerMaxum
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Originally Posted by byteme!
Mark of Protection:
For 10 seconds, whenever target ally would take damage, that ally is healed for that amount instead, maximum 6...49. All your Protection Prayers are disabled for 5 seconds.
You don't take ANY damage while under MoP so al makes no difference. Sb and PS will be disabled for the first 5 seconds so you need to make sure to recast in the last 5 seconds of MoP. *edit what do ya know you do take damage >.< they need to fix the description to make that more clear
Me/Mo>Mo/Me, (something about greedy monks and a lack of mesmers because some people don't understand how awesome mesmers are <_<)
My first toon was a mes so I am biased in favor of the mesmer profession.
MercuriusTerMaxum
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Originally Posted by pegasux
yeah i'm off to farm elsewhere for a few hours so this farm code will wear off...lol. guess i better limit myself to 10 runs an hour or something.
I kill to the last group of 3 sins and 2 rangers, then /resign every time. I haven't had anti-farming code kick in here yet, after tons of farming.
Draxanoth
Why on earth would you ever post this? You just ruined perhaps the best farming location in the game..... now it'll be filled with billions of troll farming zombies and no one will ever see a rare drop again. Didn't anyone learn from the griffons fiasco? We killed on loot with that farm for weeks till someone released a video.... They'll probably strip out the Shiroken and replace them with a boss vermin that drops a protection staff....
MercuriusTerMaxum
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Originally Posted by Draxanoth
Why on earth would you ever post this? You just ruined perhaps the best farming location in the game..... now it'll be filled with billions of troll farming zombies and no one will ever see a rare drop again. Didn't anyone learn from the griffons fiasco? We killed on loot with that farm for weeks till someone released a video.... They'll probably strip out the Shiroken and replace them with a boss vermin that drops a protection staff....
One word: minotaurs.
There are still tons of griffons to kill in the desert if you arent to blind to notice them.(Skyward Reach, The Scar)
There are still tons of griffons to kill in the desert if you arent to blind to notice them.(Skyward Reach, The Scar)
Draxanoth
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Originally Posted by MercuriusTerMaxum
One word: minotaurs.
There are still tons of griffons to kill in the desert if you arent to blind to notice them.(Skyward Reach, The Scar) Yes, there are. They also don't drop a fraction of the gear they did before someone leaked them. Minotaurs? Oh yes, tanned hide and horns is great. Maybe a rare whenever the moon eclipses. You'd rather tell everyone about your favorite spot and get tons of white items than 8 rares? Hmmm a req 8 phoenix blade and golden maul.... or gold and spirit stones....
There are still tons of griffons to kill in the desert if you arent to blind to notice them.(Skyward Reach, The Scar) Yes, there are. They also don't drop a fraction of the gear they did before someone leaked them. Minotaurs? Oh yes, tanned hide and horns is great. Maybe a rare whenever the moon eclipses. You'd rather tell everyone about your favorite spot and get tons of white items than 8 rares? Hmmm a req 8 phoenix blade and golden maul.... or gold and spirit stones....
ibex333
I cant believe this s*it.... it hasnt even been one week since this was posted, and anet already nerfed this place. I did 50+ runs today, and all i got was a shit req13 19% below golden maul, a crappy plat bow, a garbage long bow with 13 req, and 3 gold crappy daggers. No phoenix blades, no 15^50s, nothing....
Even the dragon mosses at saint anjecka's drop better than these shiroken after the nerf. The only thing this is good for now, is exp and soul stones.
I want to say thanx to the creator of this build. He/she is a true genious.
You gotta be pretty clever to think of this.
As for idiots who say that this should never have been posted:
How many times do you have to be told that Anet doesnt have to read this forum to know that you are abusing that place??
Anet is omnipresent. They know EVERYTHING that goes on in their game. They monitor your usage hours, what you do with your character, etc. It doesnt take them long to see what you are doing.
I was one of the first people in GW to farm dragon mosses. They got nerfed well before the build was posted in the forums...
Even the dragon mosses at saint anjecka's drop better than these shiroken after the nerf. The only thing this is good for now, is exp and soul stones.
I want to say thanx to the creator of this build. He/she is a true genious.
You gotta be pretty clever to think of this.
As for idiots who say that this should never have been posted:
How many times do you have to be told that Anet doesnt have to read this forum to know that you are abusing that place??
Anet is omnipresent. They know EVERYTHING that goes on in their game. They monitor your usage hours, what you do with your character, etc. It doesnt take them long to see what you are doing.
I was one of the first people in GW to farm dragon mosses. They got nerfed well before the build was posted in the forums...
MercuriusTerMaxum
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Originally Posted by Draxanoth
Yes, there are. They also don't drop a fraction of the gear they did before someone leaked them. Minotaurs? Oh yes, tanned hide and horns is great. Maybe a rare whenever the moon eclipses. You'd rather tell everyone about your favorite spot and get tons of white items than 8 rares? Hmmm a req 8 phoenix blade and golden maul.... or gold and spirit stones....
I can get 10k in about 35 minutes from minos, that includes a few rares. Griffons are decent too, as are the hydra in the same area. Infact I get 2-4 golds per hydra/griffon run. So they added kekphet and removed a few Griffons, big deal. Golds drop more from higher level foes, so obviously they drop more from Shiro'ken, unless they remove the Shiro'ken that will not change. So please take your RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE RED GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE FUD and stuff it, and spare the flames. There are Mino, Hydra, Giant, etc. builds everywhere and tons of people farming them(in the case of minos even tons of bots) and they are still profitable. I still 55 hydras, I still get 2-4 gold drops per run and nothing has been done to change that in the several months since I started.
MercuriusTerMaxum
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Originally Posted by ibex333
I cant believe this s*it.... it hasnt even been one week since this was posted, and anet already nerfed this place. I did 50+ runs today, and all i got was a shit req13 19% below golden maul, a crappy plat bow, a garbage long bow with 13 req, and 3 gold crappy daggers. No phoenix blades, no 15^50s, nothing....
Even the dragon mosses at saint anjecka's drop better than these shiroken after the nerf. The only thing this is good for now, is exp and soul stones.
I want to say thanx to the creator of this build. He/she is a true genious.
You gotta be pretty clever to think of this.
As for idiots who say that this should never have been posted:
How many times do you have to be told that Anet doesnt have to read this forum to know that you are abusing that place??
Anet is omnipresent. They know EVERYTHING that goes on in their game. They monitor your usage hours, what you do with your character, etc. It doesnt take them long to see what you are doing.
I was one of the first people in GW to farm dragon mosses. They got nerfed well before the build was posted in the forums... I have also done 50+ runs today And I have not noticed any change in drop rate. This includes several multi gold drop runs. Incase you didnt know mods are random. Just because you were luckey before doesn't spell nurf.
Even the dragon mosses at saint anjecka's drop better than these shiroken after the nerf. The only thing this is good for now, is exp and soul stones.
I want to say thanx to the creator of this build. He/she is a true genious.
You gotta be pretty clever to think of this.
As for idiots who say that this should never have been posted:
How many times do you have to be told that Anet doesnt have to read this forum to know that you are abusing that place??
Anet is omnipresent. They know EVERYTHING that goes on in their game. They monitor your usage hours, what you do with your character, etc. It doesnt take them long to see what you are doing.
I was one of the first people in GW to farm dragon mosses. They got nerfed well before the build was posted in the forums... I have also done 50+ runs today And I have not noticed any change in drop rate. This includes several multi gold drop runs. Incase you didnt know mods are random. Just because you were luckey before doesn't spell nurf.
MercuriusTerMaxum
lag caused double post >.<
ibex333
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Originally Posted by MercuriusTerMaxum
I have also done 50+ runs today And I have not noticed any change in drop rate. This includes several multi gold drop runs. Incase you didnt know mods are random. Just because you were luckey before doesn't spell nurf.
Ehh.... Well I guess I am unlucky. But you gotta admit that when someone does 50 runs and gets practically nothing, that really leads you to believe something was nerfed.
By the way... What did you get? (the good stuff I mean)
Ehh.... Well I guess I am unlucky. But you gotta admit that when someone does 50 runs and gets practically nothing, that really leads you to believe something was nerfed.
By the way... What did you get? (the good stuff I mean)
disarm76
I find a way to make it simple with a Mo/Me:
Protective Spirit
Protective Bond
Sympthatic Visage
*Ancestors Visage
*Mantra of Resolve
Retribution
Balthazar's Spirit
Essense Bond
*Not really necessary. just in case.
With retribution enemies take 10 damage each time they attack, this help then getting killed.
How to not being interrupted casting Sympthatic Visage:
When you're about to aggro the last group cast PS and PB, then aggro and turn to get near the Rangers in the back.
As you turn cast Sympthatic Visage and then get near the rangers. It work 90% of the times with me.
Protective Spirit
Protective Bond
Sympthatic Visage
*Ancestors Visage
*Mantra of Resolve
Retribution
Balthazar's Spirit
Essense Bond
*Not really necessary. just in case.
With retribution enemies take 10 damage each time they attack, this help then getting killed.
How to not being interrupted casting Sympthatic Visage:
When you're about to aggro the last group cast PS and PB, then aggro and turn to get near the Rangers in the back.
As you turn cast Sympthatic Visage and then get near the rangers. It work 90% of the times with me.
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by ibex333
Ehh.... Well I guess I am unlucky. But you gotta admit that when someone does 50 runs and gets practically nothing, that really leads you to believe something was nerfed.
By the way... What did you get? (the good stuff I mean) I wouldn't think this will be nerfed any time soon. Look at Vermin Farming... plenty of people claiming 4-5k per run. That's been going on for some while.
By the way... What did you get? (the good stuff I mean) I wouldn't think this will be nerfed any time soon. Look at Vermin Farming... plenty of people claiming 4-5k per run. That's been going on for some while.
MercuriusTerMaxum
The Visages DO stack, this can come in handy, esp if you notice the HSR kick in on one as with both active at the same time they die twice as fast.
llsektorll
Looking back at the build i think a warrior/mesmer build here is feasible....
duno maybe it'll work... im sure you can do it just gotta tweak it a bit my warrior got deleted and my new one isn't that far so i can't test it out but try it see if it works..
gladiators defense
bonetti's defense
cyclone axe
balthazar's spirit
live vicariously
vigorous spirit
sympathetic visage
ancestors visage
duno maybe it'll work... im sure you can do it just gotta tweak it a bit my warrior got deleted and my new one isn't that far so i can't test it out but try it see if it works..
gladiators defense
bonetti's defense
cyclone axe
balthazar's spirit
live vicariously
vigorous spirit
sympathetic visage
ancestors visage
ubermancer
My Me/W/Mo tried it and it worked great! Good find!
manitoba1073
heres y i like my skill set
Thom Bangalter
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
Looking back at the build i think a warrior/mesmer build here is feasible....
duno maybe it'll work... im sure you can do it just gotta tweak it a bit my warrior got deleted and my new one isn't that far so i can't test it out but try it see if it works..
gladiators defense
bonetti's defense
cyclone axe
balthazar's spirit
live vicariously
vigorous spirit
sympathetic visage
ancestors visage I want a W/Me/Mo!
duno maybe it'll work... im sure you can do it just gotta tweak it a bit my warrior got deleted and my new one isn't that far so i can't test it out but try it see if it works..
gladiators defense
bonetti's defense
cyclone axe
balthazar's spirit
live vicariously
vigorous spirit
sympathetic visage
ancestors visage I want a W/Me/Mo!
onerabbit
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
heres y i like my skill set
Tell us more!
Tell us more!
laurson
I have trouble with killing the rangers as a Mo/Me, any suggestions
Alexi Jotun
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Originally Posted by laurson
I have trouble with killing the rangers as a Mo/Me, any suggestions
Aggro up everything, then run near the rangers.
MercuriusTerMaxum
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Originally Posted by onerabbit
Tell us more!
Look at the iw spirit bond build on wiki for more info <.<
p.s notice the DP XD.
I have no idea how they got there all the mobbs on the way remove enchants >.<
p.s notice the DP XD.
I have no idea how they got there all the mobbs on the way remove enchants >.<
tuna-fish_sushi
hmm 30 + runs and ive only gotten 2 rare items and not even a white phoenix blade...
And I did 15 runs on the same day the first thread about shiroken farming i havent noticed a difference in drops
And I did 15 runs on the same day the first thread about shiroken farming i havent noticed a difference in drops
ibex333
I found the answer to interrups for the monk which works 95% of the time.
Use mantra of concentration - NOT mantra of resolve.
Mantra of resolve can drain all your enegry under some circumstances, which might deny you from recasting PS or SB at a crucial moment. It even led me to loose my enchants once.
Mantra of concentration usually works great, unless it gets interrupted by wild blow, which is unlikely.
I know that mantra of concentration will only allow you to sact one Visage, but I noticed that once the Shiroken are under the effects of one Visage they usually WILL NOT interrupt you when you cast the second one due to being drained of energy.
MercuriusTerMaxum - there's no IW spirit bond on wiki. There's only the spirit bond build with no mention of IW. Please dont be lazy and help us out.
Use mantra of concentration - NOT mantra of resolve.
Mantra of resolve can drain all your enegry under some circumstances, which might deny you from recasting PS or SB at a crucial moment. It even led me to loose my enchants once.
Mantra of concentration usually works great, unless it gets interrupted by wild blow, which is unlikely.
I know that mantra of concentration will only allow you to sact one Visage, but I noticed that once the Shiroken are under the effects of one Visage they usually WILL NOT interrupt you when you cast the second one due to being drained of energy.
MercuriusTerMaxum - there's no IW spirit bond on wiki. There's only the spirit bond build with no mention of IW. Please dont be lazy and help us out.