Shiro'ken Farming
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior
Just tried this, works great!
Still not GPB drop, but got forbidden key (nothing great but...) Forbidden Key = gold or purple item if you run Raisu Palace.
Got 38 of the so far. When I have a stack of 250 I'll be "CR SI" over in Raisu.
Still not GPB drop, but got forbidden key (nothing great but...) Forbidden Key = gold or purple item if you run Raisu Palace.
Got 38 of the so far. When I have a stack of 250 I'll be "CR SI" over in Raisu.
ChrisCo
After tryin for about 20 min i got the hang of it, Drops are good, killing them is fun .... BUT one problem is the bloody debilatating shot =(
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by ChrisCo
After tryin for about 20 min i got the hang of it, Drops are good, killing them is fun .... BUT one problem is the bloody debilatating shot =(
Hold aggro a bit and let the Warriors and Assassins hit you a bunch. You'll charge right up to full energy. Then move forward a bit and refresh your PS/SB.
I do this all the time while rounding up the Rangers into a tight ball. Then once the Rangers are grouped I refresh PS/SB, run up to them, hit MoR and then AV. Then I wait a bit for them to lose all their energy and then go hit SV.
R.I.P. Shiro'ken.
I do this all the time while rounding up the Rangers into a tight ball. Then once the Rangers are grouped I refresh PS/SB, run up to them, hit MoR and then AV. Then I wait a bit for them to lose all their energy and then go hit SV.
R.I.P. Shiro'ken.
Orinn
Maybe I'm just not lucky today, but it seems as though they've gotten a lot better at interrupting SB/PS. In my last 10 runs, 8 of them, they managed to interrupt one or the other and kill me instantly. Anyone else noticing a difference?
ibex333
Here's an advice. To avoid getting interrupted, keep running with the 3 groups of shiroken that you collected from the start. Once you see the 4th group in the very end, stop shorty before you aggro them and quickly cast your mantra of choice followed by a Visage of your choice. Once that's activated, aggro the 4th group and once everyone is on you, cast your second visage. They cant interrupt it because at this time they dont have energy. (I still had that interrupted once or twice but 99.9% of all time it works flawlessly)
Also I suggest you to bring BOTH the mantra of resolve and concentration.
With this new strategy I dont get interrupted at all.... mabe once in every 20 time.
Too bad my drops suck. I dont get golds at all... EVER.
When I first started doing this the golds dropped well every 3 runs or so... The the anti farm code kicked in and I saw the blue message.
I waited about 8 hours..... No golds.... I Started a random mission and quit it right away. Came back to the shiroken... Still no golds....
I wonder what's wrong. Mabe I literally have to wait 24hours?? or do a WHOLE mission?
Also I suggest you to bring BOTH the mantra of resolve and concentration.
With this new strategy I dont get interrupted at all.... mabe once in every 20 time.
Too bad my drops suck. I dont get golds at all... EVER.
When I first started doing this the golds dropped well every 3 runs or so... The the anti farm code kicked in and I saw the blue message.
I waited about 8 hours..... No golds.... I Started a random mission and quit it right away. Came back to the shiroken... Still no golds....
I wonder what's wrong. Mabe I literally have to wait 24hours?? or do a WHOLE mission?
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by ibex333
Here's an advice. To avoid getting interrupted, keep running with the 3 groups of shiroken that you collected from the start. Once you see the 4th group in the very end, stop shorty before you aggro them and quickly cast your mantra of choice followed by a Visage of your choice. Once that's activated, aggro the 4th group and once everyone is on you, cast your second visage. They cant interrupt it because at this time they dont have energy. (I still had that interrupted once or twice but 99.9% of all time it works flawlessly)
Also I suggest you to bring BOTH the mantra of resolve and concentration.
With this new strategy I dont get interrupted at all.... mabe once in every 20 time.
Too bad my drops suck. I dont get golds at all... EVER.
When I first started doing this the golds dropped well every 3 runs or so... The the anti farm code kicked in and I saw the blue message.
I waited about 8 hours..... No golds.... I Started a random mission and quit it right away. Came back to the shiroken... Still no golds....
I wonder what's wrong. Mabe I literally have to wait 24hours?? or do a WHOLE mission? COMPLETE a mission at least once. (Twice is best.) Farming code will be gone.
Also I suggest you to bring BOTH the mantra of resolve and concentration.
With this new strategy I dont get interrupted at all.... mabe once in every 20 time.
Too bad my drops suck. I dont get golds at all... EVER.
When I first started doing this the golds dropped well every 3 runs or so... The the anti farm code kicked in and I saw the blue message.
I waited about 8 hours..... No golds.... I Started a random mission and quit it right away. Came back to the shiroken... Still no golds....
I wonder what's wrong. Mabe I literally have to wait 24hours?? or do a WHOLE mission? COMPLETE a mission at least once. (Twice is best.) Farming code will be gone.
Saucy
I use distortion and barley get inturrupted. For my other free slot I use channeling, I never have energy problems. Drops are horrible though -_-
ChrisCo
Interupts have gotten CRAZY... and drops have died
maybe cause there was bout 100 me/mo there 10 min ago
maybe cause there was bout 100 me/mo there 10 min ago
MercuriusTerMaxum
I don't have issues with inturrupts, I'm still using mantra of resolve with 6 +1 insperation, I just had a GPB drop, not a stunning one however, and I still havent had anti-farming kick in. Timing and killing all 4 groups then /resign ing is still what I recomend.
*edit
I'm still running 6 +3 Fast Casting too.
*edit
I'm still running 6 +3 Fast Casting too.
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by ibex333
manitoba, when you get a chance, please post a video of you geting from the shiroken to kunvie and merki
gonna be a few more days till i can upload the video srry. but as R Langdon has said is how u can also get the oucast near merki. once u get past teh carps its easy to get to kunvie.
cellardweller
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Originally Posted by Saucy
I use distortion and barley get inturrupted. For my other free slot I use channeling, I never have energy problems. Drops are horrible though -_-
/GW/Channeling.jpg[/IMG] I ran distortion for a while but I found that every 2-3 runs they would miss the wild strike and I'd end up getting ED'd and killed just as fast at the shiroken thanks to famine lol.
/GW/Channeling.jpg[/IMG] I ran distortion for a while but I found that every 2-3 runs they would miss the wild strike and I'd end up getting ED'd and killed just as fast at the shiroken thanks to famine lol.
Mistical miss
To avoid interrupts, just make sure u stand away from the archers, pretty far away if possible, then their savage shot won't hit your skills, as the arrow flight time is just a bit too high. Disrupting stab is annoying, but will be fixed when ur first symp visage comes around..
manitoba1073
as u guys know i also use this build in raisu palace explorable 
not dropped yet but heres more u can do with this build look at the text as see who dropped an exp scroll for me. u can always do this like i do when drops start sucking. hehe
not dropped yet but heres more u can do with this build look at the text as see who dropped an exp scroll for me. u can always do this like i do when drops start sucking. hehe
Abnaxus
I also got visages interrupted on the first runs, but the technique is to cast one of the visages as you aggro the first group, then run to aggro the other groups keeping always one visage on. This way when you arrive at the final aggro most foes are already out of mana.
Did more or less 20 runs yesterday, collected 15k, 4 keys, some gold gilded daggers and ... an oni blade from which I salvaged a +30hp ^^ immediately put on the very nice zodiac sword of my warrior.
Did more or less 20 runs yesterday, collected 15k, 4 keys, some gold gilded daggers and ... an oni blade from which I salvaged a +30hp ^^ immediately put on the very nice zodiac sword of my warrior.
Mistical miss
I managed to kill all the rangers yesterday, its just careful luring and 16 fast casting that do the job there. Usually one or two warriors stay alive after, which you cant kill because there is no one left to cast famine.
They dropped forbidden keys and platinum wands for me... seems like its worth luring carefully.
Gj on killing kai, what do u do with the mesmers ?
They dropped forbidden keys and platinum wands for me... seems like its worth luring carefully.
Gj on killing kai, what do u do with the mesmers ?
manitoba1073
avoid them at all costs 
seriuosly just use a bow and pull just him out. use the one group of wars and rangers and he dies really fast lol
seriuosly just use a bow and pull just him out. use the one group of wars and rangers and he dies really fast lol
Neriandal Freit
What is that skill next to Illusionary? I can't seem to reconize it :/
But, for some reason, I changed to having pants on yesterday rather then boots. I kept dieing. So, I put back onmy boots and it's all good :/
But would you guys show a little map of what else we can farm outside Harvest? I'd like to spread it about a bit
But, for some reason, I changed to having pants on yesterday rather then boots. I kept dieing. So, I put back onmy boots and it's all good :/
But would you guys show a little map of what else we can farm outside Harvest? I'd like to spread it about a bit
ibex333
MercuriusTerMaxum, I did a mission and my anti-farm code was gone. I got 3 golds in a row including a req8 GPB when suddenly my drops decreased to almost nothing again. I resign after every run like you said, but it dont help in my case.
Do you kill every single shiroken assasin and ranger? or you leave some every time?
In my case, there's usually 2-3 rangers and 1 assasin left over.
Do you kill every single shiroken assasin and ranger? or you leave some every time?
In my case, there's usually 2-3 rangers and 1 assasin left over.
Mistical miss
just switch your way of working every now and then (dont kill all, kill all, dont kill all, go to the next groups kill them, kill all, resign/die/teleport while living)
and perhaps switch farming areas every now and then as well.
and perhaps switch farming areas every now and then as well.
MercuriusTerMaxum
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Originally Posted by ibex333
MercuriusTerMaxum, I did a mission and my anti-farm code was gone. I got 3 golds in a row including a req8 GPB when suddenly my drops decreased to almost nothing again. I resign after every run like you said, but it dont help in my case.
Do you kill every single shiroken assasin and ranger? or you leave some every time?
In my case, there's usually 2-3 rangers and 1 assasin left over. Usually there are a few left, sometimes I am able to get them all. I cast IoW BA MoR and EB then step on the first stair and wait for the first group to come up, cast SB and PS and wait for the ranger to cast famine and clump with the other ranger then run next to the two and cast visage, after the first group is dead I go to the bottom of the stairs cast visage ps sb(in that order) and agro the next 2 groups, after they are dead(usually 1 or 2 rangers left) I cast visage ps sb and agro the final group, once they are dead I /resign. I realize I could agro the 3 final groups but I think the 3 seperate agroes might be what prevents the anti-farm. It might be faster in the long run to go a little slower each run to avoid having to do missions.
edit:Mistal miss has a point, sometimes there is a group stuck at the bottom, sometimes the final group is stuck/running around crazy, I skip the group thats stuck at the bottom, and I just /resign if the fourth group is stuck/running. Sometimes I die then /resign, sometimes I judt die at the end, sometimes I just /resign, sometimes I run to the res shrine and die at the carp.
Do you kill every single shiroken assasin and ranger? or you leave some every time?
In my case, there's usually 2-3 rangers and 1 assasin left over. Usually there are a few left, sometimes I am able to get them all. I cast IoW BA MoR and EB then step on the first stair and wait for the first group to come up, cast SB and PS and wait for the ranger to cast famine and clump with the other ranger then run next to the two and cast visage, after the first group is dead I go to the bottom of the stairs cast visage ps sb(in that order) and agro the next 2 groups, after they are dead(usually 1 or 2 rangers left) I cast visage ps sb and agro the final group, once they are dead I /resign. I realize I could agro the 3 final groups but I think the 3 seperate agroes might be what prevents the anti-farm. It might be faster in the long run to go a little slower each run to avoid having to do missions.
edit:Mistal miss has a point, sometimes there is a group stuck at the bottom, sometimes the final group is stuck/running around crazy, I skip the group thats stuck at the bottom, and I just /resign if the fourth group is stuck/running. Sometimes I die then /resign, sometimes I judt die at the end, sometimes I just /resign, sometimes I run to the res shrine and die at the carp.
ibex333
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Originally Posted by MercuriusTerMaxum
Usually there are a few left, sometimes I am able to get them all. I cast IoW BA MoR and EB then step on the first stair and wait for the first group to come up, cast SB and PS and wait for the ranger to cast famine and clump with the other ranger then run next to the two and cast visage, after the first group is dead I go to the bottom of the stairs cast visage ps sb(in that order) and agro the next 2 groups, after they are dead(usually 1 or 2 rangers left) I cast visage ps sb and agro the final group, once they are dead I /resign. I realize I could agro the 3 final groups but I think the 3 seperate agroes might be what prevents the anti-farm. It might be faster in the long run to go a little slower each run to avoid having to do missions.
heh.. that must be it!! I pull all 4 groups on me.. and then i fire off all my ordinance at once!! lol
time to try your strategy for a change...
time to try your strategy for a change...
johan the destroyer
Ive tried this and it works well, but ive noticed the anti-farming code gets activated FAST. 20 runs with /resign and it activated.
ibex333
I noticed that it actually activates a lot faster than that.
True, the blue farm code window comes up after like 20 runs or so... But the drops decrease to almost nothing a lot faster than that.
The pattern is always the same. When you start for your first time, you will get about 3 golds in around 10 runs.(these golds have a good chance of being very good)
After you get these however your drops will go down to only gold, whites, blues and an occasional purple. If you die even once, your drops will ge even worse. If you continue farming, you will get the "blue window of death".
I tried /resigning like some people suggested here, but it dont help.
What does help is altering your killing pattern like Mercurius suggested.
You kill groups one buy one on the 1st run, then you kill 2 first ones at the same time, and 2 last ones separately, on the 3rd run you do it in some other way, etc. Following this strategy will slow down the drop decrease rate, but.... your drops will still be decreasing on every run, and your chances of a gold item will be pretty slim.
I noticed that when I use the "alternating kill patterns" strategy + resign, I usually get one gold after being offline for like 8 hours. I log on.. Farm about 10 times, get one gold, and then I am forced to stop cause drops just die.
Doing a mission resets the anti farm code, but after about 10 runs or so, everything goes to shit all over again.
True, the blue farm code window comes up after like 20 runs or so... But the drops decrease to almost nothing a lot faster than that.
The pattern is always the same. When you start for your first time, you will get about 3 golds in around 10 runs.(these golds have a good chance of being very good)
After you get these however your drops will go down to only gold, whites, blues and an occasional purple. If you die even once, your drops will ge even worse. If you continue farming, you will get the "blue window of death".
I tried /resigning like some people suggested here, but it dont help.
What does help is altering your killing pattern like Mercurius suggested.
You kill groups one buy one on the 1st run, then you kill 2 first ones at the same time, and 2 last ones separately, on the 3rd run you do it in some other way, etc. Following this strategy will slow down the drop decrease rate, but.... your drops will still be decreasing on every run, and your chances of a gold item will be pretty slim.
I noticed that when I use the "alternating kill patterns" strategy + resign, I usually get one gold after being offline for like 8 hours. I log on.. Farm about 10 times, get one gold, and then I am forced to stop cause drops just die.
Doing a mission resets the anti farm code, but after about 10 runs or so, everything goes to shit all over again.
johan the destroyer
Hmm...ok. I guess I can quickly do Imperial Sanctum after every 10 runs. A 1 minute mission shouldnt cut into the farming time too much.
ibex333
Let me know how that goes....
I'm not sure if the shiro mission will work in this case, but if it does that will be great.
I'm not sure if the shiro mission will work in this case, but if it does that will be great.
Mistical miss
hehe, doing the defend droknars forge quest worked for sure, so did doing an UW quest for mass xp, atleast it did for me, the run after the quest I got two golds in a row, one being a +28 hp -2 stance shield req 9, fairly ok drop I guess.
pork soldier
IMHO the drop rate in this area has been "adjusted" now, it used to be a lot better than it currently is.
Anarion Silverhand
Got 3 gold items in 1 run last night, so for me, the drop rates haven't changed that much. It's still a solid source of income.
onerabbit
I given up farming there, never get anything good anymore, 1st run i got a +5 energy GPB, now i dont even get a purple :\ so i cant be assed with it.
TheYangg
If anyone is interested, you can download a Video here:
http://files.filefront.com/Kunvie_Fi.../fileinfo.html
I'm Farming the Shiro'ken, as Kunvie Firewing...
I hope you enjoy it
PS.
My droprate is getting worse too...
But I'm getting my money Anyway (1,5k/run)
http://files.filefront.com/Kunvie_Fi.../fileinfo.html
I'm Farming the Shiro'ken, as Kunvie Firewing...
I hope you enjoy it
PS.
My droprate is getting worse too...
But I'm getting my money Anyway (1,5k/run)
manitoba1073
for those that wondered ho w far i go here heres a map pix
Batou of Nine
just tried this build today... debilitating shot owns me. I get denied energy SO much as i just simply try to aggro up and make the ranger ball ups. I have been at this for an hour practicing, but i have prolly like 25% success rate. I get denied energy as i aggro SO much, i often die before i even get a chance to finish balling em up and using SV/AV.
Does no one else have this issue?
Does no one else have this issue?
XanderWhilkes
While aggroing, you just need to slow down a bit before your enchants are going to flash and let the group following you to beat on you for a sec. With BS and EB going, your energy will fill up fairly quickly.
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I find it's also better to leave a few Rangers alive than to try to ball everyone of them up to kill them all. Kill the majority, pick up your loot, rinse and repeat.
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I find it's also better to leave a few Rangers alive than to try to ball everyone of them up to kill them all. Kill the majority, pick up your loot, rinse and repeat.
ibex333
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Originally Posted by TheYangg
If anyone is interested, you can download a Video here:
http://files.filefront.com/Kunvie_Fi.../fileinfo.html
I'm Farming the Shiro'ken, as Kunvie Firewing...
I hope you enjoy it
PS.
My droprate is getting worse too...
But I'm getting my money Anyway (1,5k/run) Ahhh Yangg.... Thank you man!!!
Finally! Great video, and nice music(even though I cant understand a word lol) - wish I had my brother from Berlin here. he'd translate. heh
http://files.filefront.com/Kunvie_Fi.../fileinfo.html
I'm Farming the Shiro'ken, as Kunvie Firewing...
I hope you enjoy it
PS.
My droprate is getting worse too...
But I'm getting my money Anyway (1,5k/run) Ahhh Yangg.... Thank you man!!!
Finally! Great video, and nice music(even though I cant understand a word lol) - wish I had my brother from Berlin here. he'd translate. heh
Neriandal Freit
Aye, you think you could attempt to put that video up on YouTube? I'm having issues attempting ot watch it 
matt the man
wat is so special that they drop
like any gold gpb?
like any gold gpb?
matt the man
also i cant seem to kill them all...and are u supposed to be able to kill the rangers
Dr Ripley
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Originally Posted by matt the man
also i cant seem to kill them all...and are u supposed to be able to kill the rangers
Depends on how well you can avoid being interrupted. I usually gather the first four groups before getting down to business, and at that point there is usually a large congregation of rangers standing together behind me. So... I usually turn around and lead all the assassins and tanks back a few paces to the ranger mob and then kill them all off. As someone said earlier however, the closer you are to the rangers, the more chances you have be being interrupted apparently. I usually start casting SV or AV on the run, then I have no problems casting the second one after being stationary due to the mob being out of energy already. I still have a couple of rangers left afterwards, but I just tell myself that they wouldn't have dropped anything good anyways and resign.
Oh, and excuse the brief moment of noobness, but what does 'GPB' mean?
Oh, and excuse the brief moment of noobness, but what does 'GPB' mean?
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by Dr Ripley
Oh, and excuse the brief moment of noobness, but what does 'GPB' mean?
GPB = Golden Phoenix Blade
matt the man
and do u get golds a lot...or if ur just lucky