time for 30k, 60k and 100k armors...

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

Yes. Do it ANet.

that will keep the inflation down and give people a goal worthy of grinding.

but does armors better be cool...


for monk for example, there should be wings... on the back on the chest armor.. devine angel wings, that have animations.

it will rock:-D


But seriously... diversity is killing me...


Im getting so tired of seeing clones of myself constantly. I can understand that we cant change our body fat(even though it would be great to play as a severely obese mesmer), or change eye color, and so on, but I surely hope that there will be a much much bigger selection of different armors in nightfall than in factions, because that was sort of bad.

You can't just take two different armors and duplicate them entirely and just give them different names and stats. thats just to weak. even for an EA game for god sakes... thats just consumer rape. ethnic gaming wipeout. soiled insanity, even. jesus.


stuff like 100K armor should be the ultimate... I mean.. the materials needed to also gather it should be so rare that it would be impossible to get it.

maybe they should just make some stuff that is so hard to get that no one will ever be able to get it. that way, the carrot-on-a-stick syndrom would be able to live on, through vanity and fear from the customers.

The Fox

The Fox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

The # of possible armors availiabe determine the rarity of your appearance, so making them expensive is irrelavent to rarity. However you were 100% correct about adding grind, which is what the game was suppose to try to avoid. Anyways, I like the wing ideas but then everyone would want the extra cool armor and when the market wants it, they'll find a way to get it, no matter how much grinding the company sets up. Hey this could be a good way to keep players busy between chapters

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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Wings have already been discussed for armor. Frankly, it would be pointless for them to design that many skins for each profession.

/notsigned

p.s. this belongs in Sardelic, it doesn't even mention Nightfall

S.U.K

S.U.K

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

wouldn't you like to know..

none

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower


but I surely hope that there will be a much much bigger selection of different armors in nightfall.
haha take that!!!!!!!!!....

...i have way to much time on my hands....

ekamdu

ekamdu

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Holland

Legion of Sacred Light

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
stuff like 100K armor should be the ultimate... I mean.. the materials needed to also gather it should be so rare that it would be impossible to get it.
dont we already have obsidian?

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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this is stupid.


there is no reason why ANY item in the game should ever be sold for 100k or more.


If you have payed 100k+ecto for anything I pity you.

Granted some people will pay whatever for that nice perfect Zodiac Sword or whatever, but seriously- its retarded.

100k armor? No thanks- unless the 100k armor wipes my ass after I crap, its kind of stupid.

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
You can't just take two different armors and duplicate them entirely and just give them different names and stats. thats just to weak. even for an EA game for god sakes... thats just consumer rape. ethnic gaming wipeout. soiled insanity, even. jesus.
you need more sleep. Youre getting kind of out of hand here. Making this "even harder to get" armor would only increase the amount of people buying gold on ebay so that they can all look the 'same' again.

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
you need more sleep. Youre getting kind of out of hand here. Making this "even harder to get" armor would only increase the amount of people buying gold on ebay so that they can all look the 'same' again.
dear god... another time traveller.

Or just maybe, if you wouldnt be so pessemistic and emo, it would increase the replayablity by a long shot for many people.

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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emo? Im a little old to be 'emo' homeslice. Back in my day it was 'hardcore' until all those kids got nowhere and started crying on stage...


And how am I a time traveller again? Youre talking decreasing inflation, but having rediculously priced armor is going to make the problem worse. You say itll increase replayability, but actually it will only increase grind.


Plus, you wanna talk Emo- well talk about your little angel wings then.

God, now all this thread needs is some anime fan wanting Cat-Ears for purchase in the in-game store and we'll be all set.

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Noooo! I don't even have enough money for 15k armor yet! Oh well, time to start farming more than 1 run a month...

Its a good idea though. I like it. I mean we have 1.5k, 15k, and a million k armors, so why not fill in the gaps in between?

/signed

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

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yea i think the new armors for nightfall shoud be 100k

I mean you going to be looking like a king

Death Snapper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada - Toronto

The Little Nutters (PWN)

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Originally Posted by gamecube187
Noooo! I don't even have enough money for 15k armor yet! Oh well, time to start farming more than 1 run a month...

Its a good idea though. I like it. I mean we have 1.5k, 15k, and a million k armors, so why not fill in the gaps in between?

/signed
Obsidian is not a million K, it is 15k with expensive materials. However I agree with the idea of putting more expensive armors; whether its more expensive gold wise and about the same cost in materials, or more expensive in both ways. A lot of people would buy it, and I think that would take alot of gold out of the system.

/signed

also this really should be in Sardelac Sanitarium

Edit: Wow now that I think of it, it would be insane if obsidian was 1000000k armor, 15k armors that much gold per piece, can you imagine paying 5million gold in pure gold (one piece at a time, and only with a full storage) AND adding all the ectos and shards :O that would be crazy. I sure am glad that the FoW armors not 1million k lol

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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It would only increase ebay gold sales. That is my stance on it, and you can bet that ANet feels the same on it.

Its bad enough all the people in Fissure Armor who didnt earn it themselves. Your precious armor means nothing to me.

Midnight08

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Cantha. DE

Xen of Onslaught (Alliance of Xen-AX)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
dear god... another time traveller.

Or just maybe, if you wouldnt be so pessemistic and emo, it would increase the replayablity by a long shot for many people.

Cmon people, you gotta respect someone who starts personal attacks on people once his idea recieves a bit of negative input..... /sarcasm

oh and i second the views from well... everyone that it would be a complete waste of time... were trying to lessen the elitest culture, not expand it here...

I can just see it now, "HoH GLFM, must be R19 and have 100k FoW, meet at Storage for inspection." heh

Soldat

Soldat

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Join Date: Jun 2006

TX

Fashion Police [chic]

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Do you know how many ppl in GW are so rich they don't know what to do w/ their money? Some ppl who have 1 million are anal about letting their storage vault gold drop below 900k, they just keep hoarding it. I'd rather not have a new armor that instead of solving the cloning problem (which is not a problem to me), would separate the rich from the poor. All the rich would look like clones, and all the poor would be scrounging just to get a set of Gladiator's from Droknar's. No thanks.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

It seems you havent bought factions and only play prophecies. There was a ton of new armor designs for each class when factions came out and even more when nightfall comes out. We have enough armor designs and much mroe to come, how can you still complain about lack of armor?

/not signed

LadyNilene

LadyNilene

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Silver Millenium

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no, no, no...

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kimahri

kimahri

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Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

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Instead I'd like to see more 1,5k-15k armorsets in Nightfall, perhaps 8-10 1,5k and same amount of 15k? Factions had less types of armor in total but more unique sets instead of only 1,5k and 15k version of the same armor.

Alfrond

Alfrond

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

The United States

Boston Guild [BG]

Mo/Me

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I'm always for more choices. 30k seems to me to be the best idea as it would make a nice choice in between 15k and FOW.

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnight08
Cmon people, you gotta respect someone who starts personal attacks on people once his idea recieves a bit of negative input..... /sarcasm

oh and i second the views from well... everyone that it would be a complete waste of time... were trying to lessen the elitest culture, not expand it here...

I can just see it now, "HoH GLFM, must be R19 and have 100k FoW, meet at Storage for inspection." heh




What I don't get, is why you oppose it. Are you just one of does people who like to be mr.-oppesite?

it doesnt affect you. If you dont want to pursue the armor, then don't. Let people who got more money than they can spend, get something worth bragging about to their friends. its just skins, but its a goal and achivement and a reason to keep playing, and a reason to be proud of what you have accomplished in the game.

I don't get it... I really don't.

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Death Snapper
Obsidian is not a million K, it is 15k with expensive materials. However I agree with the idea of putting more expensive armors; whether its more expensive gold wise and about the same cost in materials, or more expensive in both ways. A lot of people would buy it, and I think that would take alot of gold out of the system.

/signed

also this really should be in Sardelac Sanitarium

Edit: Wow now that I think of it, it would be insane if obsidian was 1000000k armor, 15k armors that much gold per piece, can you imagine paying 5million gold in pure gold (one piece at a time, and only with a full storage) AND adding all the ectos and shards :O that would be crazy. I sure am glad that the FoW armors not 1million k lol
By a million k, I mean if you include how much it would be to buy the ectos and shards.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
Its bad enough all the people in Fissure Armor who didnt earn it themselves. Your precious armor means nothing to me.
This is meant as a gold sink, not a way of showing off how much money you have....

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
It seems you havent bought factions and only play prophecies. There was a ton of new armor designs for each class when factions came out and even more when nightfall comes out. We have enough armor designs and much mroe to come, how can you still complain about lack of armor?
First I have factions and I play it a LOT more tahn prophecies (and from some of lawnmowers other posts, it seems like he does too), so that doesn't really count.

Second, it isn't really a lack of armor designs, but more like a lack of armors that are priced in between the 15k and obsidian armor.

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Originally Posted by Soldat
Do you know how many ppl in GW are so rich they don't know what to do w/ their money? Some ppl who have 1 million are anal about letting their storage vault gold drop below 900k, they just keep hoarding it. I'd rather not have a new armor that instead of solving the cloning problem (which is not a problem to me), would separate the rich from the poor. All the rich would look like clones, and all the poor would be scrounging just to get a set of Gladiator's from Droknar's. No thanks.
If you haven't noticed, that already happens. There are the people that only have 1.5k(like me) and the people that have the 15k and the obsidian (the people I wish I was as rich as...)

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

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There is no need for a bazillion armor types, especially since, when you consider all currently-existing armors, as well as every single dye combination, we already have a bazillion.

Plus, I'm one of those people who can't afford FoW armor (richest I've ever been is 80k), and I need not go even crazier over armor (15k is good enough for me).

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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[QUOTE=Lawnmower
What I don't get, is why you oppose it. Are you just one of does people who like to be mr.-oppesite?

it doesnt affect you. [QUOTE]


No, just about every single post here tells you the downside of your idea.

Dont take it personally, you didnt make any armor skins yourself or anything- we arent dissing you, we are dissing your idea.

It WILL affect him, it will affect THE ENTIRE ECONOMY. 100k is the number that bot-farmers and ebayers use. You arent a bot farmer or an Ebayer, ARE you?

Amok Affinity

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

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not a game breaker, but if effort's to be put forth i'd prefer it be in any area other than aesthetics...

also, if some twelve year-olds are getting all ADHD because they've had the same uber ascended 50k blah blah whatever armor for too long, tell 'em to screw off and play WoW some... plenty of crap to grind for there, i hear.

ectospasm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

i would never spend 30, 60, or 100k per peice on a paragon or dervish armor. and i would never buy fow armor cause its rediculously expensive looks like crap and the amount of materials and prices for them is just absurd plus i dont have such an ego that i would feel the need to show how much e-wealth i have

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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but seriously, the term "optional gold sink" is they key.


I think ebayers and etlism is out of our concern, and I think its so wrong to hinder gameplay mechanics because of stuff like that.

Also, I will never be able to get 100k armor, but I still want it, even though I will never get it. because then I have a goal.


titles are just lame.. no one cares... its just a title. so boring. a really cool looking armor that only 1 or 2 guys in the entire game has, which when they enter a district, they turn everyones worlds upside down out of sheer awesomeness...


they could even make combo specific armor sets.

for example, a uniqe armor set for Warrior/Monks only. its designed could be paladin-holy knight like. shiny armor, with devine aura surrounding it...


think of the possibilities. the diversity. the new colour. the freshness. it only takes so long for the game to feel really old, grey and down right depressive.

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

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all armour is the same no matter what it looks like if u want to show of or look cool buy fow not the rubbish below it

as i dont care about the armour but oviously alot of people do and have alot of armour instead of perfect weapons which actually matter

/signed

and im still waiting on Wings for an event item =D

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
It WILL affect him, it will affect THE ENTIRE ECONOMY. 100k is the number that bot-farmers and ebayers use. You arent a bot farmer or an Ebayer, ARE you?
The introduction of new armours for Factions caused a *slight* influx in the price of the common materials, but they were still under 300 gold for a stack of 10 which wasn't ground breaking. The rare materials for said 1.5k armour didn't change that much either, so I don't see the problem of introducing another option into the game. The "economy" is completely optional to this game, if you want to look good (which will have NO bearing on your gameplay whatsoever or the players around you) you should be willing to pay whatever price the market has determined. It's not like you're going to be judged for wearing cheap armour or kicked from groups (and if you are kicked from a group for not having an expsenive armour you're probably better off, seriously).

So yes to more choices, if I don't like them I just won't buy them. That simple.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

I'm with the others here.
If you want to blow money so bad go grab FoW or multiplle 15Ks and perfect gold weapons...

Why do you want 30k/60k/100k armors is beyond me. Player skill > armor cost.

Scourage of Death

Scourage of Death

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Unknown Warriors [UW]

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/notsigned...its called FoW....the ectos and shards are somewhat hard to get and the armor with the price of those factored in is a lot... plus you have to get a group good enough to go to FoW and beat the quests

fleshvirus

fleshvirus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Swe

W/R

wouldnt be unfair to have Higher base armor and resistance for The even more destructive skills

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
stuff like 100K armor should be the ultimate... I mean.. the materials needed to also gather it should be so rare that it would be impossible to get it.
i guerentee you any truly rich player would have it rather quickly.
even assuming a cost of 800k per piece several people have that kind of money on-hand.

Helll is for Heroes

Helll is for Heroes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

True Cinema

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Jeez, i can barely afford my 15k warrior armour...

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akhilleus
i guerentee you any truly rich player would have it rather quickly.
even assuming a cost of 800k per piece several people have that kind of money on-hand.
Then make it 10,000K. I don't care. Just make something truly rare and uniqe, that will make my eyes bleed of awesomeness.

lachescandinavu

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

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dude...it took me a week of troll/mino farm with my warrior to get 15k armor and im already disgusted of farming...plus even if a person wears fow armor,how many people do you think they go wow at it??...i bet not even half of the gw comunty knows how fow armor looks like......no it is not time for 30,60,100k armors...it will never be...do you think every1 here likes to farm or what ?

swimnserve88

swimnserve88

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Colorado

W/Mo

As a player who bought his first set of 15k armor when the price of amber was still at 2k a pop, I think that there should be more 1.5k options than anything. Allow the elite/rich/eBayers/whatever to have their fancy FoW armor, but 30k+ a piece is insane. It promotes grinding, demoralizes the average joe player (who I think the game still is unbalanced to, I mean, all of the market prices are insane for the guy who only plays so much....what about the little man?), and is a huge gold sink, which there are already plenty of in this game.

I think ANet should include 4+ armor options at the 1.5k level, and a set of 15k to match it, much like they did with factions. They should also make the older Prophecies armors into the Faction equivalents, having the skin and armor option was cool in factions and is poorly missed in Prophecies.

So as a closing note, I own several 15k armors now, all of which I bought with my hard earned money, but I think that there should be more options around the lower levels than the higher ones.

Sieg Sol

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Philly, PA

HSoC

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I dont like the idea..it will just cause more big heads and ego's. I earn everything of mine......people may think i ebay but i dont. I remember back in FFXI people bought gil. I would train mobs to those chinese gil farmers cuz they would sell gil. Yeah i got temp ban but it was so worth it. Then SE started to see why me and others did it..and they didnt complain anymore rofl.

But back to the point. I agree it would just promote ebay. I think 15k is a fine limit with if anything..harder to get materials (thats the limit imo)

Although i still dream of a 15k prophecies knights set....

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

The idea is fine with me. Ive been playing since may 2005 and i still occasionally pull up next to someone with fow armour and have a 2 second look. The thought of where the money came from never crosses my mind and i couldn't care less if they farmed the money or they bought it. The armour looks the same either way.

Who cares how people got it.

The people i get annoyed with are the people who don't know how to play in a group not the people who buy money for stuff or take shortcuts.

I'm not sure why people have to focus so much on someone elses view of how the game should be played or items should be obtained. People don't "disgrace" themselves for taking shortcuts. Every facet of life is always looking for a shortcut.

So i say bring it all on. It will give me something to look at for another 2 seconds.

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

Wings are stupid if you can't use them to fly. Furthermore it's overdone.

/notsigned

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

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100k Armour? Oh So FoW isn't expensive enough? Or hard enough to get if you farm for it?