50% Marker on HP bars

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Certain skills benefiet from knowing when your opponent is below 50% hp. Sometimes it looks like they are just below, but come to find out when you use the skills they weren't, and you just missed a good oppurtunity.

I think it would be very easy to just place a little marker at the 50% mark on the HP bar. Once the little line at the end of the "red" falls past the marker, you know your opponent is below 50%.

An even more ideal fix would to display your opponents actual HP. Somewhere on the bar it could show there current hp/total hp. Although, this isn't really neccissary.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Ingenious. Just a little tic on the bar to indicate the point of "No Return!"... well, ok, not no return, but you know what I'm saying.

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

considering the number of mods that are 15^50 or the like i don't see this as a bad idea, as long as it includes our own health bars.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

I think we should have a little number at the end of our health bars, just next to the condition/hex/enchantment arrows, that show how much dp they have.

2008 EDIT: Wow old thread . Don't know why we'd need DP indicators...

Perhaps the health bar should turn a darker shade of red when under 50% health instead of a line, might make them stand out more and be a bit clearer.

Arcador

Arcador

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

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R/N

I agree about the tick on the hp on 50% and also about the DP but only to party memers...and maybe more discret - ctrl+click on party member repots the DP only to you.

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwig
considering the number of mods that are 15^50 or the like i don't see this as a bad idea, as long as it includes our own health bars.
Well since you can see your own hp as long as you can subtract you'll know when you're below 50% but for convience's sake, 50% markers all around!

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

/signed

Some will do the math and some are more visual. Besides someone may be switching weapons and even armor during action that change the hp amount. So it would be good to see the 50 percent mark visually. And using the interface options to make the bar bigger should make it so we can see it in the corner of our vision, when looking directly at something else.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

the line might be hard to see. perhaps changing the bars color. I would also like to have a bar that tells you when hexes wear off of the enemy. this way you can keep up with your casting. some builds are primed to run on timing.


~the Hexing Rat~

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

changing colors may work, but i'd prefer it be an interface option. I myself may keep thinking I've been caught by a hex or condition if I see it change color.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Totally signed, I'm fed up with using the Exprince Bar as the marker...good idea eh?

Shadow-Hunter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Denmark

[HH] [Hax]

Mo/

Showing a little Mark for 50% of Hp bar seems like a good idea.. /signed..

Showing Others Total Hp and stuff /NOT SIGNED.. Simply becouse this will have bad effects like exactley showing Spike teams who they can easyly spike and well, going that far we might aswell show their skills and attributes? So Mark for 50% hp - Yes, Show Enemys exact hp - Hell no..

Also, This could kinda help ppl to lets say chance their weapon to a 20v50 weapon when getting under 50% hp.. >_>

~Shadow

wilson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

aggro bubble

[RD];[FW];[GOTS];[baed];[kiSu]

/signed


I think that's a very good idea. Should be easy to add and would help a lot. Although I don't wait for the health to drop too low while monking, sometimes I feel like the additional healing from Word of Healing should trigger, while in fact it does not. With a marker like that, it would be much easier to know when a skills or weapons above/ lower 50% description or mod would trigger.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linksys
changing colors may work, but i'd prefer it be an interface option. I myself may keep thinking I've been caught by a hex or condition if I see it change color.
didnt think of that. how bout a speech bubble that pops up.


"Oh crap there goes half my life!"


~Rat with bubbles in his nose~

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

"I'm halfway dead!"

edit: Hmm, half alive or half dead? Optimistic or pessimistic.

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

W/

A little nub right in the middle would look nice, I'd say.

Sli Ander

Sli Ander

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deep in Maguuma, by the Falls

Liberators of Agony

Mo/R

/signed
I also disagree with showing exact health of enemies, but only because I wouldn't want anyone knowing too much about me in a pvp match(though I would love to see how much health monster bosses have). The health marker(of whichever kind) would be very useful.

Mars Dragonblade

Mars Dragonblade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Awesometon.

Ministry of Fate [MoF]

W/

/Signed a-plenty.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

I'm more inclined to go with the idea of custom markers on your health bar, so you can put your own up, but allow for the allocation of set marker points like a 50% marker as the OP suggested.

Because there are situations where you would want to know when your foe is at 20% health for example.

Goats17

Goats17

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

House Zu Heltzer, laughing at them.

The [GEAR] Trick

N/Me

Why anyone would see something wrong with this, I do not know. It would be very easy just a visible tick. Wouldn't even have to be a big ne either.

/approve with pleasure

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

/signed

Not hard to implement, nothing bad with the idea.

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I do the math, but this is not a bad idea
/signed

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

/Signed

I think this is a great idea

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

/signed

I hate when my Final Thrust doesn't work! >:O

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

fine idea.

Would make word of healing easier to use. Maybe should also have a 75% and 25% marker as well.

/signed

Brother Gilburt

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrGuildBoi
/signed

I hate when my Final Thrust doesn't work! >:O
And my Needling Shot! /signed

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

/notsigned for opponents...too much information that really shouldn't be available.


/notsigned for your own HP....there are numbers at the 50% mark.

Shrouded Waffle

Shrouded Waffle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Professional Henchway [pRo]

I think it's an awesome idea. /signed (only the 50% tick on enemies)

Maybe have it as a toggleable option in the interface if you do or don't want it showing.

007 Error

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

[FFS]

Mo/

This is part of the many challenges the game has to offer (and tbh this one is pretty minor). Regarding enemy/opponent markers I agree with Sereng. Regarding your own/ally health-bar(s), just use your intuition. I play as a WoH healer most of the time and I manage just fine. Of course it would be convenient, but the price would be a lesser challenge.

/notsigned

xiao1985

xiao1985

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

i thought it's primiarly for WoH... though i use my judgement any way... i have to say, it'd make WoH alot more boring, as all you need to do is watch until hp fall below the red line

/not signed

Undivine

Undivine

of Brackenwood

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

How's this?

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undivine
How's this?

That's nice, or maybe something that looks like a ruler-bar, with little white lines at the quarter marks, and a slightly bigger line at the half. Otherwise, looks great!

btw: /signed

Some strategies and conflicts should not be determined by the quicker person who can judge the percentage of one's health bar at a glance. This just makes it easier for everyone to use their skills and strategies to the fullest. I see nothing wrong with that in the least. Just because you can tell when your life is at 50% doesn't mean others can. Anything that puts everyone on a level playing field is a definate thumbs up.

Arcador

Arcador

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

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R/N

Looks cool (the pic), maybe a only at 50% :P at the tic.

Undressed

Undressed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Reich

none

W/

Notsigned, too much info for the foes. Next thing people will suggest is auto-blinking for skills which have a greater effect when health is below 50, and one day we're all just sitting there and watching bots kill each other because they surpass human reaction times.

Aki Soyokaze

Aki Soyokaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Vancouver

/signed

But, the simple solution would just to set up your health bar such that it can be split in half by a line created by your skill bar.



Can't remember if this is the default setting, but it's similar to how my bar is set up and what I use. Where I just use the skill bar to know what percentage of health I have left. You can also do the same thing with the enemy health bar by using another icon or other marker from your display to indicate where the halfway point is.

Fantastico

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

/signed

but I would like to see the idea expand. Especially for the monk.

I would like to see more information about hexes, conditions and enchantments on teammates (and perhaps enemies).

* ok, this part I might get flamed about *

I watched a friend of me play World of Warcraft (just watched, trust me), and I was fascinated about the information the priests (WoW-monk) got from their team members.

I would like to see a lot of these features in the 'customize' part of the menu, so u have more control over yourself and your team. With the current resolutions people play, u have more room on your screen for information.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

I'm a huge fan of moebius strike, so /signed.

How about options so you can set them at other percentages too( desperate strike, shroud of distress )?

luauelveneno

luauelveneno

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

in my room behind my pc

Guilty Guild [GG]

/not signed

making the game easyer and easyer good idea but not for GW

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

I'd like it. It be very nice for several classes and numerous skills, but I'm rather fond of the colour code. Health bar is green at 75%+, yellow 50%+, red 25%+. Actually, it'd be cool to have this option under the interface tab.

madman420

madman420

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowbaneX
I'd like it. It be very nice for several classes and numerous skills, but I'm rather fond of the colour code. Health bar is green at 75%+, yellow 50%+, red 25%+. Actually, it'd be cool to have this option under the interface tab.
That would really suck for us colorblind players. Also, it wouldn't work with the degen color changes already in the game.

Minus Sign

Minus Sign

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow-Hunter
Showing a little Mark for 50% of Hp bar seems like a good idea.. /signed..

Showing Others Total Hp and stuff /NOT SIGNED.. Simply becouse this will have bad effects like exactley showing Spike teams who they can easyly spike and well, going that far we might aswell show their skills and attributes? So Mark for 50% hp - Yes, Show Enemys exact hp - Hell no..

Also, This could kinda help ppl to lets say chance their weapon to a 20v50 weapon when getting under 50% hp.. >_>

~Shadow
I was going to support it until I read this post. You're right: numerical postings of enemy HP could represent an unfair advantage for spike/degen teams, etc. Perhaps a percentage for compromise. Instead of seeing 550 HP when full, you see 100%.

/signed for the half-way marker. Good idea. I'd like to see the 50% marker put "behind" the health bar, a visual warning that only becomes visible when you're at or below 50%.