Nightfall PC Gamer Thread

Solar Light

Solar Light

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Teutonic Warriors {TW}

Mo/

Yes you are

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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YAY! the guild wars weapon market is finally gonna die with the advent of the new updates! As someone who has spent several mil on weapons, i couldnt care less about the update. If others cant afford weapons and mods, i root for this upadte just cuz im not a greedy money hungry ho

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Money did give some purpose to playing pve. Now itmes will be so cheap now. Buying wep skins will be dirt cheap cuz of the inscriptions. Also you get to choose the mods to salvage, taking away the chance to salvage the right item. The GW market is gonna die. Farming will loose its purpose to most players.

azunder

azunder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Are we supposed to be shocked that the mad ruler is a woman or something?
It's Gweeeeeeeen! Gweeeeeeeeeen!

:P

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets
Money did give some purpose to playing pve. Farming will loose its purpose to most players.


if you were only in the game to add another zero to your fortune (LEVEL UP) than so what.

this will hurt the bots more than a few rich farmers/ players

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets
The GW market is gonna die.
The Gold Farming Market maybe.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets
Farming will loose its purpose to most players.
Isn't that the point? They don't want us to have to farm.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
Isn't that the point? They don't want us to have to farm.
EXACTLY RIGHT

as an example my warrior actually requires a superior absorb rune but they are 100k so i have to farm to get it.

ANET sees this PROBLEM and increases the drop rate.

results are a small group of ultra rich farmers bitching how much their profits have gone down.........

and..............a whole very large group of happy players who no longer HAVE to farm for something

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

I agree, this will help attract new players who may be turned off by the games economy.

People who still want rare Golds just to have them (like people who want Greens even though they can make their own with Collector's and Mods) will still support the market, though.

Puddin Cheeks

Puddin Cheeks

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

On Welfare

Jelly of the Month [Club]

I thought I was crazy as well.

The first time I opened my catalog, I read the first page of the nightfall exclusive that said page 96 for the pet.

Flipped to 96 entered the code and bang free pet.

An hour later my son knocked my catalog off of the desk and I looked down and saw a blank box on the page.

I thought holy cow WTF is going on here.

After several minutes of being perplexed I realized i was on page "76" and it was an incomplete duplicate of 96.

LOL glad i wasn't the only conspiracy theory victim here.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

I think more characters will be kept also, I have been many times tempted to just delete my pve mesmer because I cant be botherd with finding the money for all the right weapons.

I certainly hope this will mean that PvE Characters can more easily be made playable in serious pvp

Puddin Cheeks

Puddin Cheeks

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

On Welfare

Jelly of the Month [Club]

I agree with the general idea of the new salvaging system for a couple of reasons.

1) getting the weapons you need will be more available for each pve character.

2) Not destroying a weapon just to get a mod off of it you don't want. (instead of over applying a new one and destroying the old one)

Also, this may not effect the economy as much as everyone thinks. We will just have to wait and see. The skins will still be just as valuable as they are now as long as the drop rates don't change much.

Yes you do lose the elusive sale of a 15^50 gold weapon but now you get to sell skins regardless of the inherent mod.

I like the thought of this new system and I am eager to see how it does truly effect the games players and uber farmers.

When I see how this all pans out I will then give my ultimate approval.(who cares about me anyway , right

Puddin Cheeks

Puddin Cheeks

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

On Welfare

Jelly of the Month [Club]

EDIT* accidental double post

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Updated OP to reflect confirmations by Anet.

Please let me know as things get confirmed... I'm especially interested in confirmation of secondary profession changing in Outposts and Towns.

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

I got really excited about Factions before it came out, I was really looking foward to it. After I walked through it in a couple days, I was left sort of unfulfilled. There was plenty of cool stuff in Factions, but I felt like on the whole, something was missing. So when Nightfall was announced, I felt sort of tepid about it. I thought I would probably get it, but I wasn't too anxious.

After reading the PC Gamer article and recent releases, I'm really starting to warm up to it. If it is as good as it sounds now, I think it will totally make up for any negatives I saw in Factions. It seems like the team really has been listening and working on our suggestions this whole time.

I was kind of pessimistic when everyone was talking about no new skills or armor for sin and rit, but now they have confirmed new skills, and released pictures of new character designs for those professions. If they confirm new player armors, I will preorder the CE immediately out of a sheer show of support (I've never shelled out for a CE before).

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadRoadkill
If they confirm new player armors
There's a thread confirming new Ritualist and Assassin armor in Nightfall.

Is that what you're talking about?

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
There's a thread confirming new Ritualist and Assassin armor in Nightfall.

Is that what you're talking about?
Is that confirmation by anet, or player speculation?

Zexion

Zexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Warrior Nation [WN]

N/Me

http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...nts/nightfall/

Here you can see the new armor for Rt and A.

_Zexion

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zexion
http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...nts/nightfall/

Here you can see the new armor for Rt and A.

_Zexion
Like I said in the other thread, I'm waiting for official verbal confirmation before I rejoice, there's nothing to say the rit and sin there aren't NPCs or something.

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

i finaly got the pc gamer today I read all of it. I am still in shock

ran to eb bought the ce


and people fight over henchies well one thing i have to say it works for rpg

Lag Hell

Lag Hell

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

i have a question about the expansion itself, as i have been absent from just less than a year ago, and returning only recently, i have not yet had a chance to look into factions, and now i see that there is a new version avaliable soon, wat im wondering is that is this an expansion to the expansion factions? or does it go with prophecies

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

It can be Prophecies+Nightfall; could be Factions+nightfall; or Prophecies+Factions+Nightfall. The storyline will refer back to Prophecies more but as it is designed as a standalone; it's an expansion to whatever is on you account.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadRoadkill
Like I said in the other thread, I'm waiting for official verbal confirmation before I rejoice, there's nothing to say the rit and sin there aren't NPCs or something.
Just curious, why do you think they would make new armor for Ritualist and Assassin NPCs, and not for player characters?

faty

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

does anyone know which magazins europeans can buy to get the key for the gray giant. i have been looking at this page for about a weeknow and it hasnt been updated. i was thinhking that since americans have had their magazine out for a while if it was out in europe at all yet???

thx to anyone who helps

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

I don't think they have released which magazines it will be in. Alex will probably say something when they do.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

In short no one knows, we have to wait till we A.net tells us something.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

I'm glad there is confirmation of support for rits and sins, including new armors and most likely new weapons. Althought my rit and sin are pretty much set with their armor, new weapons never hurt.

I picked up the PC Gamer issue last night, so I now have my code for the new minipet. I have a bad feeling that some people went out and bought multiple issues of PC Gamer to hoard the new pets for themselves, which makes me sad. Don't be greedy. Spread the wealth.

Shadow_7

Shadow_7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Raiders of Gilead

W/R

WOW!!! Central FL here no November PC gamer yet. Even Barnes & Nobles is carrying only the September issue. I checked PC Gamer website and they are advertising the September issue on shelves now. Can anyone point me in the right direction here?

Horuku

Horuku

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Colorado

Eva Champloo [EvaC]

W/Mo

I decided against buying a PC Gamer for the minipet because you know everyone and their mother is going to be buying it so they aren't going to be worth THAT much.

Max Spider X

Max Spider X

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Will I still be able to get it in the final retail version?

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

yes. Just don't delete it then...

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Do we know what the basic background or storyline will be in Nightfall?

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepsi Jedi
LoL Is there anywhere the Christians didn't run amok?
easy trigger or I'm gonna run amok all over you


Quote:
Originally Posted by penguo
" The Paragon will be the tallest player character in Guildwars. When shouting or Chanting buffs in the field, the Paragon's wings will stretch out as he rises in the air, making him even more imposing."
As far as I knew before they just had wings on there armor, but this sounds cool.
Hmm in pvp when the males shouted I thought it looked really really dorky and figured I had to go female paragon if I made one at all.

Now this might make a lot more sense...!

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
Guild Wars was refreshing from the gore that was Diablo II (one of the many reasons why I stoped playing it). This is not something I want to return to.
Well I see yer all mostly jumping up against GloryFox but I have to concur, in fact I kinda got sick of the all the abberations in chp2 - not only was it a fair bit on the disgusting side, arguably much worse it was boring/dull and got OLD quick.

If I wanted to play Resident Evil I would, but this game is targetted a bit differently and I'm happy about that. I'm not even sure of the details here but I'm glad this has been relatively free of that - ie I'll play something like Dead Rising when I want the parts to fly and spray.

So I'll have to do digging to make a real judgement but I was disappointed with the walking mutant/abberations in chp2 (not only a bit overdone and disgusting but very overused and boring to boot) and hopefully chp3 wont be overdone for shock value either - again in this kind of game, it quickly degenerates into a bit of repetive vulgarity for no apparent reason.

Keep in mind I liked Planetscape Torment too.
But I basically avoid the games that that's really all they offer and/or get silly with it.
I think its fair to hope that the chapters stay within some bounds, we have some expectations 2 chapters in.

Eternal Waffle

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Angels Of the Afterlife

W/Mo

Hey if you trash the mini gray giant or delete the character currently holding your mini gray giant does it reappear when you type /bonusitems?

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

You will get it back when the game goes live. But if you trash it after that; it's gone for good.

Planeforger

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Hmm...we've seen the two-dragon motif before.
There's a similar symbol next to the glowing chest in Kaineng Center (hold 'z' to see it), and another during the loading screen for the Abaddon's Mouth mission (and all RoF areas).

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Planeforger
Hmm...we've seen the two-dragon motif before.
There's a similar symbol next to the glowing chest in Kaineng Center (hold 'z' to see it), and another during the loading screen for the Abaddon's Mouth mission (and all RoF areas).
And the 15k warrior armor from factions

Psyks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Xen Of Onslaught

W/E

Quote:
Too bad USUALLY the second part of a trilogy is the best- I mean just look at Jurassic Park... :/
Oh dear, of all the trilogies you could pick you pick one that is NOT a trilogy seeing as Jurassic park 4 is coming out in two years and one that is not even very good.
And anyway Jurassic Park 2 and 3 were pants compared to the original.

If you wanted a better analogy you should have chosen the Godfather trilogy although I suppose it is an 18 and thus the majority of the board probably haven't seen it.

ANYWAY, so Nightfall is ment to tie up the previous story arcs yes? How exactly? What was REALLY left untold?

flamingunicron

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Darkest Side

W/R

whats this about the dervish armor having area of effect damage when they spin?

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Well haven't seen this thread in a while.

^Anywho, it's just part of the lore. They say part of the reason the scythe does aoe dmg is cause the crap hanging from their skirts hits people when they spin. But you still do aoe dmg even if you're not wearing dervish armor or if you're not a dervish.