The capital letters weren't necessary, but I'll reply anyways.
The magazine states that you can take a Canthan or Tyrian character to do the quest. So that character can get the minipet. I assume you can then take the minipet to other explorable areas and missions where other people can see it.
Now what if someone does this and sells the minipet, during the preview event, at a place like Ascalon City or Piken Square? And the buyer doesn't know that the minipet will disappear after the event, which the buyer may not be aware of, because the seller is not saying so? And the buyer pays the gold and the seller gets the gold. The preview event is done and the buyer is ripped off. Nightfall comes out and the seller does the quest again and gets a permanent minipet.
That was my concern. Understand now?
Nightfall PC Gamer Thread
Linksys
Zexion
Players can't take Tyrian chars to do the quest. So unless he gets the money at piken square, then transfers the pet somewhere in Elona, this won't happen.
But then if that was the case, why not log off after recieving payment, and never give the buyer the pet?
_Zexion
But then if that was the case, why not log off after recieving payment, and never give the buyer the pet?
_Zexion
Linksys
On page 96 it says:
"Now launch Guild Wars Nightfall and travel by ship to Kamadan, the port city for Elona if you're importing your character from Guild Wars Prophecies or Factions, or start a brand new character in Nightfall and head to Kamadan."
"Now launch Guild Wars Nightfall and travel by ship to Kamadan, the port city for Elona if you're importing your character from Guild Wars Prophecies or Factions, or start a brand new character in Nightfall and head to Kamadan."
Loviatar
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On page 96 it says:
"Now launch Guild Wars Nightfall and travel by ship to Kamadan, the port city for Elona if you're importing your character from Guild Wars Prophecies or Factions, or start a brand new character in Nightfall and head to Kamadan." |
here is the event info
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HOW TO ACCESS To access the PvE part you must create a new roleplaying character with homeland Elona. To do this, you need a free character slot ... either on an existing GW Prophecies or Factions account or on an existing preview event account (for example accounts created for the Factions PvE preview. These test accounts are still functional and you can log into them at any time.) or on a newly created Nightfall preview account. (ArenaNet is expected to hand out a special access key for creation of such accounts prior to the Nightfall event.) To access the PvP part you may create a new PvP character. This can be done on an existing account (which means you may keep the faction you gained during the event) or a preview account (as explained for PvE). |
Linksys
Alright I must have misread that. I don't think I'll bother with the whole event thing. Just release the game and that's that. At this point I assume the PC Gamer is at least good for the minipet(and quest to get it) in the actual game out in October, which would generally be unavailable otherwise? Otherwise I'm taking this rag back to the bookstore. Actually I'll see if I can get the code removed from my account before getting my refund.
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Alright I must have misread that. I don't think I'll bother with the whole event thing. Just release the game and that's that. At this point I assume the PC Gamer is at least good for the minipet(and quest to get it) in the actual game out in October, which would generally be unavailable otherwise? Otherwise I'm taking this rag back to the bookstore.
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it is hard to misinterpret that
Linksys
I didn't misread that part and that's why I was afraid of people selling minipets that would disappear after a certain date. Wasn't there some post on Guru auctions trying to sell a key code from the magazine, advertising it as the minipet?
Basically I'm just a little upset that it's not the simple "get the magazine and you have a minipet, there it's done" deal that it was made out to be when the October issue got everyone excited about this. The cover of the new issue says "Buy this mag for an exclusive... mission and mini-pet." If the minipet is permanent after waiting until October, and the magazine is pretty much the only way to get it(other than buying ingame), then fine I'm satisfied although it was made out to look like we'd get a minipet right now. As in one we keep, no different from the other minipets.
Basically I'm just a little upset that it's not the simple "get the magazine and you have a minipet, there it's done" deal that it was made out to be when the October issue got everyone excited about this. The cover of the new issue says "Buy this mag for an exclusive... mission and mini-pet." If the minipet is permanent after waiting until October, and the magazine is pretty much the only way to get it(other than buying ingame), then fine I'm satisfied although it was made out to look like we'd get a minipet right now. As in one we keep, no different from the other minipets.
penguo
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Oh wow, that is cool, I definitely want a paragon now if I get to have wings for sure
 Hey penguo, does that mean you found the mini-pet key in your magazine after all? I hope so! EDIT: I don't know how I forgot to mention this earlier, but There ARE floating palaces in Nightfall!!!!!! I know that was a popular wish, so I hope lots of people are happy when we get to see them in-game. |
False Question
I don't have the PC Gamer mag. but i just wanna know, does it show how any of the new armors look like or the new weapons they might have in the game?
natuxatu
This is a Nightfall promo item... Thus they're not going to let just anyone who buys the mag get the bet. Thats not the point of a promo item. I think that takes care of that...
maedrarle
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I don't have the PC Gamer mag. but i just wanna know, does it show how any of the new armors look like or the new weapons they might have in the game?
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maedrarle
So I was reading the PC Gamer and something was mentioned about the Dervish that got me thinking. It states that the Dervishes Area of Effect damage is caused in part by the blades that are hung from it's armor. Wouldn't it be cool if you could add things like different blades and upgrades to your armor as a dervish to create more damage?
arcanemacabre
If that is true, and I see no reason for it not to be (considering the look of the armor with giant blades and various other implements of destruction hanging down from the waist), then we might finally see armors with damage increase modifiers. Maybe even some unique and interesting other effects like speed buffs and the like.
Me likey!
Terra Xin
Well that's actually really weird, because you can have the same effect with their sythe even when you're not a dervish.
Though it makes you think why assassins even have all those daggers strapped all over them.
Though it makes you think why assassins even have all those daggers strapped all over them.
arcanemacabre
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Well that's actually really weird, because you can have the same effect with their sythe even when you're not a dervish.
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The Assassin armor... well I can't explain that. Maybe they're not real daggers, but just dagger-looking protrusions coming off the armor...
Cloudpiercer
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Well that's actually really weird, because you can have the same effect with their sythe even when you're not a dervish.
Though it makes you think why assassins even have all those daggers strapped all over them. |
And I was thinking the same thing about the Dervish armor after I read that article.
Quid Pro Quo
That would be nice if Dervish hit 1 more target then other classes when using a scythe or if they did a bit more damage with them.
Arduin
And at the same time, make the thorny protrusions from the Nec's Fissure armor do some actual poison damage, make the Ranger's Frostbound armor give surrounding Allies some protection against cold too (they can snuggle into the Rangers furry coat with ease), and don't forget to give the Female Mesmers armor some kind of distracting ability....
Don't get me wrong maedrarle, I like the idea, but when the dev. team starts to add some mods on the Dervish armor, soon people start wanting mods for the armor of the other professions too. Of course, this wouldn't be a problem if they were so kind to add mods to these armors, but I don't think this is going to happen soon...
Don't get me wrong maedrarle, I like the idea, but when the dev. team starts to add some mods on the Dervish armor, soon people start wanting mods for the armor of the other professions too. Of course, this wouldn't be a problem if they were so kind to add mods to these armors, but I don't think this is going to happen soon...
maedrarle
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And at the same time, make the thorny protrusions from the Nec's Fissure armor do some actual poison damage, make the Ranger's Frostbound armor give surrounding Allies some protection against cold too (they can snuggle into the Rangers furry coat with ease), and don't forget to give the Female Mesmers armor some kind of distracting ability....
Don't get me wrong maedrarle, I like the idea, but when the dev. team starts to add some mods on the Dervish armor, soon people start wanting mods for the armor of the other professions too. Of course, this wouldn't be a problem if they were so kind to add mods to these armors, but I don't think this is going to happen soon... |
Oh and the only reason the dervish armor would do aoe damage is because the cloth spreads out when attacking. Fow armor would have an empathy effect. :P
NeHoMaR
Sorry, I haven't read all thread. Any mention in the magazine about we can run in Elona? I like a LOT the freedom of running all map when you already finished game once.
Mordakai
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Sorry, I haven't read all thread. Any mention in the magazine about we can run in Elona? I like a LOT the freedom of running all map when you already finished game once.
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I, too, want freedom and I hope Nightfall gives us open Gates.
As for the Minipet issue, it says on the cover of the magazine:
"Get an Exclusive Guild Wars Mission and Mini-Pet"* Now sure it's possible to mis-read that and think your getting two separate things, but it's pretty clear once you read page 96 that you have to do the mission to get the pet. On page 96 there's a whole box of how to get the pet in the preview, which is clearly separate from the retail release instructions.
I'm sorry you feel "cheated" in getting a bonus mission! I think it's cool, and I enjoy doing quests to get things, it feels more fun to me.
*I do agree that they should have put "Get an exclusive Nightfall Mission and Mini-pet" for clarity.
Linksys
What I was more disappointed in the cover was that it doesn't indicate that it's a pet you can get during the preview, lose it after the event is done, then have to wait until October to finally get it permanently. It just says mission and minipet.
Clawdius_Talonious
Anet will not make expensive armors that are inheirently better than others that cost less, so the dream of your FoW armor having some sort of inheirent effect that isn't available on the lower end armors is just that, a dream. Awhile back I noticed vastly more sensitive cloth physics implemented in one of the updates. At the time, you could spin just right and twist your cape and it would stay that way, looking a bit odd. I theorized at the time that the cloth physics were altered to allow blades on the dervishes armor to spin, based on the dervish armors I had seen at that point. I stand by this theory, the spinning blades will look cool, but I think PC Gamer was a bit wrong on the blades actually doing damage themselves. I could be wrong on this, but if Dervish Armors had an inheirent damage mod, would we not already have noticed this during the PVP preview? I certainly saw nothing of the sort, so my money is on cool looking but otherwise useless blades on dervish armors.
Horseman Of War
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The capital letters weren't necessary, but I'll reply anyways.
The magazine states that you can take a Canthan or Tyrian character to do the quest. So that character can get the minipet. I assume you can then take the minipet to other explorable areas and missions where other people can see it. Now what if someone does this and sells the minipet, during the preview event, at a place like Ascalon City or Piken Square? And the buyer doesn't know that the minipet will disappear after the event, which the buyer may not be aware of, because the seller is not saying so? And the buyer pays the gold and the seller gets the gold. The preview event is done and the buyer is ripped off. Nightfall comes out and the seller does the quest again and gets a permanent minipet. That was my concern. Understand now? |
No one will be able to exploit the preview event for personal gain.
On a side note, I picked up my Mag @ Borders - the clerk was like "are you getting this just for the collector pet?" to which I responded "of course!"
I really want to speculate on the whole Vabbi thing, but the kind of extreme spoilers that could possibly involved with it make me unsure of if thats a wise thing to do at this time... Like how its going to work out in-game as far as towns and instances go... Form a party, go outside "arg its daylight who's the noob??!!" Know what I mean?
Clawdius_Talonious
I wish they would've said Quest instead of Mission, there is a big difference in Guild Wars.
Horseman Of War
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I wish they would've said Quest instead of Mission, there is a big difference in Guild Wars.
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Mordakai
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I wish they would've said Quest instead of Mission, there is a big difference in Guild Wars.
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(oddly enough, on the inside, they use the correct term "Quest", so it's not like they don't know.)
Misinformation FTW?
(In fact, I think I'll note this in the OP, so at least people who read this will know.)
EDIT: Arghh! I can't change the OP. It looks fine in "Edit" (I added the error of the tagline under the Gray Giant info), but when I save it, the original post appears.
Can someone confirm if the changes are made?
Here's how it should read:
Exclusive Nightfall Quest & Gray Giant Mini-Pet
Note: The PC Gamer cover tagline is incorrect. It should say "Get an Exclusive Nightfall Quest and Mini-Pet!" not "Guild Wars Mission and Mini-Pet." This quest is for Nightfall only, and only available to those with the PC Gamer code.
Darksun
TO ANYONE WHO HAD A BLANK BOX!
If your mag had a blank white box where the minipet code should be, CHECK AGAIN!
when I bought mine, I opened it, read the code, input it into GW and put the book away. A few days later I let my friend read ti for a bit and I went to the page with the code to show him the Giant pic. The box was EMPTY!
I was so counfused. My friend saw it too, thought it might have been oxidizing ink. well, later that night on the way out of the house, I went to the page again: the code was BACK! Honestly I don't know what the heck is up with it, but maybe it was a precaution against people opening the mag at the store and stealing the code, but as far as I know, the code has something wonky going on!
Since the mag is supposed to be in a plastic bag, I assume that page is usually kept dark. So perhapse the reactive agent is light? Try keeping it in the dark for a while, then looking.
If your mag had a blank white box where the minipet code should be, CHECK AGAIN!
when I bought mine, I opened it, read the code, input it into GW and put the book away. A few days later I let my friend read ti for a bit and I went to the page with the code to show him the Giant pic. The box was EMPTY!
I was so counfused. My friend saw it too, thought it might have been oxidizing ink. well, later that night on the way out of the house, I went to the page again: the code was BACK! Honestly I don't know what the heck is up with it, but maybe it was a precaution against people opening the mag at the store and stealing the code, but as far as I know, the code has something wonky going on!
Since the mag is supposed to be in a plastic bag, I assume that page is usually kept dark. So perhapse the reactive agent is light? Try keeping it in the dark for a while, then looking.
Mordakai
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TO ANYONE WHO HAD A BLANK BOX!
If your mag had a blank white box where the minipet code should be, CHECK AGAIN! when I bought mine, I opened it, read the code, input it into GW and put the book away. A few days later I let my friend read ti for a bit and I went to the page with the code to show him the Giant pic. The box was EMPTY! I was so counfused. My friend saw it too, thought it might have been oxidizing ink. well, later that night on the way out of the house, I went to the page again: the code was BACK! Honestly I don't know what the heck is up with it, but maybe it was a precaution against people opening the mag at the store and stealing the code, but as far as I know, the code has something wonky going on! |
No, no, and no. While it's possible to print ink that would "disappear" when exposed to heat, or other chemicals, the practical application of making a code in a magazine with such ink is NIL. Please explain how this would deter thieves, and yet reward honest consumers?
Besides, this magazine has not left my side in a week, and the code has always been there (hot, cold, sodas spilled, dried up, sunlight, flashlight, flourescent light, etc.)
I guess I can't prove that the text is there in the Dark... but I have no reason to doubt it.
Darksun
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This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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No, no, and no. While it's possible to print ink that would "disappear" when exposed to heat, or other chemicals, the practical application of making a code in a magazine with such ink is NIL. Please explain how this would deter thieves, and yet reward honest consumers?
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I have no idea what the reasons for it are. It's pure speculation. But since:
1) there is only 1 page that looks like that in the book (from what I remember)
2) the code was there when I first opened it
3) The code was NOT there when I looked again later (I looked extensively at it, even different angels. It was very weird)
4) the code WAS there hours after that.
I tried to think why they might do that. I was very confused and showed to my friend. I'm definately going to try messign with it tonite, I thought I was going crazy before. I can give any good reason except experience, but I think people who have a blank box, should CHECK AGAIN at differnet times/circumstances.
btw I never said the code was visible "in the dark". you can't SEE in the dark. I said the light may be what causes it to react or fade over time.
Mordakai
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It's a good thing that what you believe doesn't determine reality.
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Ther practical applications (opened packages in store light have a lower chance of one being able to steel the code, where as one who owns it can do it in any situation) for it are far more reliable than my having hallucinations.
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If your theory is correct, don't you think someone official would have responded to all the people who's boxes are blank to "leave it in the dark for 15 minutes" or whatever, to restore the code? Don't you think somebody else would have noticed this by now? Also, it seems to me, it'd be better to have a few stolen codes, then hundreds of people complaining about blank boxes. Better yet, keep all the magazines sealed in plastic so no one can steal the code, and there's no need to play "Spy vs Spy".
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I have no idea what the reasons for it are. It's pure speculation. But since:
1) there is only 1 page that looks like that in the book (from what I remember) 2) the code was there when I first opened it 3) The code was NOT there when I looked again later (I looked extensively at it, even different angels. It was very weird) 4) the code WAS there hours after that. I tried to think why they might do that. I was very confused and showed to my friend. I'm definately going to try messign with it tonite, I thought I was going crazy before. I can give any good reason except experience, but I think people who have a black box, should CHECK AGAIN at differnet times/circumstances. |
2. I believe you.
3. I don't believe you (sorry).
4. I believe you.
Again, I should be able to replicate this phenomenon. Since I can't, I can only conclude something is amiss with your description of the events.
If it happens again, please note the exact circumstance so I can confirm for myself. Until then, I call BS.
Clawdius_Talonious
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I thought I was going crazy before.
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I think that the way the Prophecies code was like a lotto ticket, scratch off layer on top of the code, is the best way to ensure no one has read/used the code prior to you getting it. However I would say the best way to ensure that with a PC Gamer mag is to by the DVD version, it's wrapped in plastic you know. As far as disappearing ink, I think you're somehow mistaken.
Unless maybe... You know...
Knightsaber Sith
I think a few people said that they had pages repeated in their magazine for some reason. While the first page 96 had a blank rectangle; the second 96 had the code on it. Maybe that happened to yours?
penguo
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I think a few people said that they had pages repeated in their magazine for some reason. While the first page 96 had a blank rectangle; the second 96 had the code on it. Maybe that happened to yours?
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Darksun
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1. It's page 96, across from the "Free Suff" PC Gamer postcards to try out a subscription.
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2- Ok
3- it's Ok to be wrong
4- Ok
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I'm not sure about that. Are there any medications you're currently taking? (yes, I'm serious).
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If it happens again, please note the exact circumstance so I can confirm for myself. Until then, I call BS.
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Thanks for noticing that Sith! I knew I wasn't going crazy. Infact, pages 76 - 99 (or there abouts) where printed twice. It's page 120 that has the code in my mag. So, as I said before:
IF YOU HAVE A BLANK BOX, check again, it's in the second set of pages.
The Great Al
can someone explain to me how they were changing the armor system? I have the magazine and it mentioned something about how it was going to be easier to get individual pieces of armor, but it didn't really make sense.
natuxatu
Yeah I also didn't understand that as it's not hard to switch one piece in the first place.
Mordakai
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That's fine is you think i'm BSing. Lucky for me you're wrong! My speculation about some weird ink are way off. (I couldn't think of anything else since the few pages before and after fit what I could remember) But there is, in fact, a blank box & a code box.
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Anyway, glad you're not going crazy
I'll add this to the OP. Thanks for finding this Darksun and Knightsaber Sith.
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can someone explain to me how they were changing the armor system? I have the magazine and it mentioned something about how it was going to be easier to get individual pieces of armor, but it didn't really make sense.
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My thought: it's talking about exchanging runes (a long shot, but it does come right after the bit about "Inscriptions".)
Or, maybe it's some new mechanic, like "Inscriptions", that just aren't known yet. Oh, well, it's good to have some secrets!
Solar Light
Read the back of your mags
"...lead them against a mad ruler as she attempts to free her outcast god and bring darkness to Elona.
Thoughts anyone?
"...lead them against a mad ruler as she attempts to free her outcast god and bring darkness to Elona.
Thoughts anyone?
Knightsaber Sith
Are we supposed to be shocked that the mad ruler is a woman or something?