Nightfall PC Gamer Thread

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

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Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

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Most probably refers to not being able to change the modifiers on green weapons.

DarkWasp

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Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindcrime
Gold weapons will be even more cheaper now. Since you could take any bad req 7/8 sword, axe, hammer and turn it into a perfect one. It might sound good to many but the rarity and the reward for a high-end player with good items; can literraly be achieved by a new player within 1 month, apart from FoW armor which requires experience for "how to get the money". I know, I'll probably playing the wrong game; maybe WoW is a better candidate for high-end players with ambitions for uniqueness and reward. But after 16 months in GW, I kinda stuck with this game and will accept new updates even though day by day; GW bury their own grave.
I think the inscriptions are just the 15 over 50 things right?

That wouldn't screw up the market.

The only thing REALLY screwing up the market now, is all the people buying gold (seems to be more than half the population). Now most of these people run atleast 1 warrior character, and they've shot the price of Swords and Axes through the roof. Getting a perfect axe isn't as hard as getting a perfect staff with all the same atributes but the price difference is amazing.

Now say one of us players who as been around since the release decides to make a Dervish. We've got this nice looking Purple Req 10 Scythe, BUT it has 16 below 50, I'd rather be able to change that buy buying a part.

I'd rather not wait for some farmer to come up with that same scythe with a better mod but about 5x the price (As it is I don't buy weapons).

But you are making it sound like you think these will change the damage, I don't think that is the case.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai

But the next sentence really has me puzzled:

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OK, at first I just ignored this because I thought they didn't understand the 5 part armor system in Guild Wars. But since it falls right after the "Inscription" sentence, is it possible they meant Runes? What does everyone think?
Say you got druids armor + energy but no ele specific armor. (Ranger)

Now you change your build and you don't need the energy, instead of buying a whole studded set, you buy one thing and your armor changes from druids to studded in atributes. (This way you don't have to FILL your inventory with armor).

Thats my guess.

Domino

Domino

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Join Date: May 2005

Houston

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the PC Gamer article was definitely nice. It basically overviewed many of the new features and enhancements of Nightfall, and if there was any doubt that Nightfall will breath new life into this game, this article got rid of it.

My favorite feature by far was the inclusion of the drinking and dancing games. Apparently there is a mini-game where you go to a party and steal drinks from people in a certain amount of time. It's these little touches that really add to the game, imho. Not to mention some quest involving you to ride a giant Wurm to your destination, where it will eat you whole allowing you to steer it.

Apparently they've gotten some big-shot D&D writer, who is basically writing the storyline and lore. The voice-acting, according to PC Gamer, has been given special attention too.

Assassins and Rits get skills, the salvage system is being tweaked, upgrades are called "inscriptions" now... not sure how that works, but it essentially lets you mix-and-match upgrades easier.

The only thing that wasn't mentioned was the possible new HDR lighting for the game. There's a video on google videos of someone playing, and the graphics look really different. It doesn't say whether Nightfall has new graphics features, so it's possible that they just use better textures.

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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Glad you liked it!

You can post your comments here

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10044494

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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no no no, grenths avatar is the coolest.

I think the skill needs a slight buff tho... but we shall see.

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inscriptions- good. no more will I feel like a joke trying to sell a 14^50 max item, or a non-max 15 always or things of that nature.

maybe I shouldnt have sold all those crappy "near perfect" zodiac/jade/celestial items I got on double elite weekend & chest run weekend


and likewise I see no reason why the staff inscriptions (sorry just wanted to say it) wouldnt be the same. The word inscriptions just sounds tough.

that armor thing really has me wondering tho... been shard hunting all week for my ritualist because I figured Id have one armor for spiritspam (i have) and one for healing/channeling.... Im going to have to hold off on that now (im halfway there for the fissure hat:P)

bamm bamm bamm

bamm bamm bamm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
About the "Inscriptions": I just re-read the sentence in question.

So, the question is, what do they mean by "most"?

But the next sentence really has me puzzled:



OK, at first I just ignored this because I thought they didn't understand the 5 part armor system in Guild Wars. But since it falls right after the "Inscription" sentence, is it possible they meant Runes? What does everyone think?
Maybe they took this on board? It could be one of many different variations of a basic idea; the idea of turning inherent stats of weapons AND armour into another tangible item that can be either applied or switched. My guess is that armour merchants will only sell the basic armour sets that have no stats, and the stats can be bought as 'armour inscriptions' and added after. Maybe even swapped after purchase. So you buy your Kurzick set and then add the Ascetic Inscription. Maybe it becomes available for all your armour skins in future. But that's all speculation, maybe it'll just be runes.

penguo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ducktape
Heh, even if someone did post the pictures, they would be deleted by the mods, so that's not going to help.


Do you have the November PC Gamer? It's not out everywhere yet, so it might just be that you don't have the right month.
Yes it is the November, on the page where there is the white space where it is supposed to be there is nothing, figures it happened to me.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Prophecies was garbage, Nightfall is going to be much better.

Ranger Rog

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

[TOG]

I hope these new salvage options mean I can make my own purple triple attribute caster items instead of having to open chests to get them

Sam Stormwind

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Dragon Knights

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Wow i really hope this is 10 times better than factions !

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

So exciting. Chapter 3 being the final part of a Trilogy means and tying up lose ends. Where IS Gwen. Wurm ridding... New skills for Rit and Assassin.. I'm so there.

ducktape

ducktape

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Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by penguo
Yes it is the November, on the page where there is the white space where it is supposed to be there is nothing, figures it happened to me.
The little white box on page 96, next to the cardboard [subscribe to pc gamer!] page? If that's the white box that's blank, that is indeed where the key is supposed to be, and that totally sucks if yours is blank.

I wanted to warn people that if you go buy your copy of pc gamer in the store, it is NOT plastic-wrapped, so it's very likely that someone looked through all the magazines in several stores and wrote down all of the access keys and sold them on ebay before you even bought the magazine.

I bought mine just now and thankfully my key worked, but for people who buy it after keys have been up on ebay for longer, might not be so lucky.

penguo

penguo

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Abaddons Bane

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ducktape
The little white box on page 96, next to the cardboard [subscribe to pc gamer!] page? If that's the white box that's blank, that is indeed where the key is supposed to be, and that totally sucks if yours is blank.

I wanted to warn people that if you go buy your copy of pc gamer in the store, it is NOT plastic-wrapped, so it's very likely that someone looked through all the magazines in several stores and wrote down all of the access keys and sold them on ebay before you even bought the magazine.

I bought mine just now and thankfully my key worked, but for people who buy it after keys have been up on ebay for longer, might not be so lucky.
Yeah it really sucks, i dont suscribe but i bought it in the store plastic wrapped, but nothing at all there.

ducktape

ducktape

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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So yours had plastic wrap? Which store did it come from? Mine was from Borders and none of them were plastic wrapped there.

That's some really terrible luck that yours was even safely plastic-wrapped and there was no access key. Maybe you can call or e-mail pc gamer and they can hook you up with a minipet key?

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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I would definately call PC Gamer. Hell, mail it to them so they can see for themselves.

ducktape

ducktape

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W/R

Oh wow, did anyone see the "monsters" section where they have "Marganite Paragon"? Maybe it's Margonite Paragon, which would mean we get to find out about the Margonites too

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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Borders doesn't carry the plastic wrapped version of PCGamer cause they let everyone read their magazines facilitating key thieves. But my local Compusa has the bagged PCGamers.




--We don't just find out about the Margonites; we kill them. If you watch the Nightfall trailer, you see a Dervish killing one and the prerelease bonus pack says the Margonites worship the evil god that's screwing up Elona.

ducktape

ducktape

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Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Borders doesn't carry the plastic wrapped version of PCGamer cause they let everyone read their magazines facilitating key thieves. But my local Compusa has the bagged PCGamers.




--We don't just find out about the Margonites; we kill them. If you watch the Nightfall trailer, you see a Dervish killing one and the prerelease bonus pack says the Margonites worship the evil god that's screwing up Elona.
Damn those tree-hugging hippes at Borders!! There were plenty of magazines that were plastic-wrapped so I don't understand why they would take all the PC Gamer magazines out of the plastic, or why they would let other people sit there and open all the magazines and then not pay for them.

Wish I could get the preorder pack so I could read juicy details like "the Margonites worship the evil god"...

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ducktape
Wish I could get the preorder pack so I could read juicy details like "the Margonites worship the evil god"...
Something to whet your appetite:

I like the big statue.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

That detail about the evil god's name being stricken from history reminded me of this:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Great_Destroyer

Omega X

Omega X

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Something to whet your appetite:

I like the big statue.
Seems that they took a page from real history. Sounds very much like when the christians ran amuck in Egypt.

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

Sounds like the story I am writing on the Netherworld. A small section is for an exiled god; called the God of Chaos. He was banished to a mirror realm (of the netherworld) for his crimes against the other three major realms (i.e. light, dark, and balance). One of these gods was Fate herself in all her glory, (who is control over the realm of balance).

Originally this so called: God of Choas was just a plain slave immortal without a name to, Velnore the god of the dark realm. However this slave upraised against his master and utterly failed, and scarified himself in the nexus of time; He was then reformed into a new being and took up the name of the God of Chaos. After which he raised war with the other gods, stating that he is the true natural order to life and death (calling them false deities). He destroyed many worlds (and realms forming the next major realm of chaos and oblivion) but it was fate that disrupted this unholy gods plan and rallied the other gods with an armistice. During this god’s trial for his war and notorieties (before banishment), he prophesied that his revenge would come swift and he might return.

In the mirror realm of the Netherworld, the Alkieren people governed over the prison of this former god. In time he tried once to return his control by his creation of the Bromytes (chaos demons). They killed most of the Alkieren’s, but failed and they sealed away the lost city. However they say that the God of Chaos manifests himself as a wraith, and is more powerful then ever, sucking on the former soul’s of the lost Alkerin people (making a wraith nest and invisible dark webbings).

There is much more but (this is but a scratch and is verily general), I really don’t feel like giving away my dead on secrets for my Netherworld Trilogy writings. Finally this character does not pay any major role in the first story because; he is not the main evil of the story. Furthermore the gods try to hide his identity or refer to him as being killed in that epic war.

Pepsi Jedi

Pepsi Jedi

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mobil Infantry Battalion (MIB)

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LoL Is there anywhere the Christians didn't run amok?

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

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W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Something to whet your appetite:

I like the big statue.
where did you get that? is that from a gw book or something?

gr3g

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Something to whet your appetite:
[image suppressed]
In other words, it can't be Dhuum. Everyone prancing Canthan Child knows Dhuum's name. It also can't be Menzies, cuz Menzies is a pansy. His ass is routinely kicked by Balthazar. But this Banished God is supposed to be strong enough to put up a fight against all five Old Gods.

Methinks it's the Elementalist god. He used to be all that, but the AoE nerf totally broke his kickass triple echo firestorm build.

Peddy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmrak

Furians Reborn [FR]

lol I dont think skill nerfs has such a large effect on a evil uber god.

penguo

penguo

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Abaddons Bane

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Yes sadly mine was plastic wrapped, came from barnes and noble, gonna call or something later. I need to pick up the pack, but one comes with my game, but that's in like...forever.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
where did you get that? is that from a gw book or something?
prerelease pack

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by penguo
Yes it is the November, on the page where there is the white space where it is supposed to be there is nothing, figures it happened to me.
Hey, I'm a subscriber to PC Gamer. My key was there when I got my mag, but when I put in the code I got an error. "Already in use." You'd think if the magazine is delivered to your door you're pretty safe. NOT!

Long story short, I raised enough hell after being batted back and forth between PCG and Anet that Anet reissued a new key to me. I think what worked in my favor is that I insisted they cancel the stolen key. That way they knew I was sincere and wasn't trying to scam one.*

Maybe you could scan the blank box and send it to Anet support. I know that would be a hassle though. Probably the easiest and fastest thing to do would be to return the mag to B&N and exchange it for another. Just make sure you check it before you leave.

*BTW, thanks Anet...

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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its stated in the lore that each of the gods have a different element attatched to them, for example balthazar is war and fire, and melandru is nature and earth.

elementalists dont have a single god, because of their inherent diversity. Its covered.

grenth= water
dwayna=air
melandru=earth
balthazar=fire

look it up, its as simple as that.

and why is the fallen god NOT dhuum again? I missed something. That statue looks like a margonite to me.

edit-> or at least what the margonites anti-ascended to.

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
That detail about the evil god's name being stricken from history reminded me of this:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Great_Destroyer
Very good catch, I must agree that the Great Destroyer fits the bill... but god knows Im cheering for Dhuum's team.

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

What is the contents of the starter kit you can get?

Stub

Stub

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Wyoming

The Battle Scrubs [NuBs]

According to Anet:

PC Gamer: Preview and Pet 15 September 2006
You can read an extensive preview of Guild Wars Nightfall in PC Gamer's newest issue, on shelves in North America today. Learn lots of inside info about Nightfall, and get your hands on the exclusive code that will give you a special in-game miniature pet, too!


According to Wiki:

Promotional Giveaways

The following miniatures are unlocked by a special one-time key code included with games related magazines:

* Gray Giant (PC Gamer, US edition, November 2006 issue)
* more promotional miniatures in European magazines have been announced by NCsoft (source)

Unlike promotional equipments, miniatures are not customized and can be traded ingame.
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and also, we may look forward to seeing these mini's after the next Championship in Japan....I think

Guild Wars Championship in JAPAN

* Miniature Island Guardian - top 3 teams (up to 8 members each)
* Miniature Panda - top 2 teams (up to 8 members each)
* Miniature Kanaxai - #1 team (up to 8 members)
__________________________________________________ _________

If you have any Pics, Please post them here, or if I'm blind, and there's already a post on this, please redirect me.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

It's impossible to get the new pet til the world preview event.


wish I had a mini Kanaxai......


and pic of the Gray Giant are all over; not going to bother posting it

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

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panda....

go GO RED ENGINEGO Anet....give us Mini-Pandas

>.<

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

How does Anet justify giving away mini pandas? Is it because minis can't die? Just add the actual pet pandas like previously planned because the chances of game release in China is slim to none anyway.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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err; they are releasing in China soon

but NCsoft has made a three year commitment for some other guys to host it

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/17/gu...rated-by-the9/

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

DID ANYBODY ELSE NOTICE...................

that it said NIGHTFALL characters could choose which mod to salvage and keep the weapon the mod came from?

did you notice it made no mention of doing that in back chapters?

think chapter 2 storage tabs.

think chapter 3 selective salvage.


think frantic farmers buying frantically

i love it

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Does that mean China will be completely cut off from everyone else? I don't know how their things opperate, being communist and all. :\ If they're not interacting with the rest of the servers (I doubt they'd allow that), we should have pandas. >.>

KoalaMeatPie

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Wilds Pathfinder

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Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

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They Gray giant will only be accesible In the PvE Weekend, Then once you start a Nightfall game starting the 27th.