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JC68

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16 Sep 2006 at 21:03 - 121

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Originally Posted by Stub

According to Wiki:

Promotional Giveaways

The following miniatures are unlocked by a special one-time key code included with games related magazines:

* Gray Giant (PC Gamer, US edition, November 2006 issue)
* more promotional miniatures in European magazines have been announced by NCsoft (source)

now it is known, that European magazines will be giving Gray Giant too... (source = european GW site)

Griff Mon

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16 Sep 2006 at 23:21 - 122

The magazine showed up in my mail this week. This is the short version as I read it: When the free preview starts you can enter the code, get a broken toy and do a quest to get the grey giant mini-pet. It will disappear after the event is over.

Once the retail game comes out, you can enter the code and do the quest again and keep it permanently.

ducktape

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16 Sep 2006 at 23:37 - 123

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

Something to whet your appetite:
[snip picture]
I like the big statue.

/drool

Thanks!!

I wonder if we will actually get to see a giant statue like that of the evil god in the game, that would be really cool.

So what do you guys think of the part where the devs say that once Nightfall comes out, evil spirts and creatures that serve the evil god will start appearing in Prophecies and Factions too, even if you do not own Nightfall? Not sure if that will be fun or really really annoying.

It does sound plausible that the selective salvage would be Nightfall-only, I do hope though that if you can pick your salvage from Nightfall items you can put them on items that you maybe didn't get from Nightfall, like a 20/20 inscription on a Factions item you already have.

GloryFox

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17 Sep 2006 at 00:08 - 124

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posted by gr3g
In other words, it can't be Dhuum. Everyone prancing Canthan Child knows Dhuum's name.

So your saying every Canthan Child has been to the Underworld, fought their way to the Reaper of the Chaos Planes and knows of Dhuum's name?

I’m sorry to inform you this but no one knows of Dhuum except the Ascended who actually traveled to the underworld and spoke to ONE specific Reaper of the Chaos planes. I’ve played GW for a year and a half and I have yet to join a party who can stay in the game long enough to get to this quest.

As a matter of fact I know of very few players in the REAL world, who have actually done this quest and succeeded. Apart from the information in Guildwiki no one would really know of this quest and thereby the name of the former God of Death and Destruction. I doubt the claims of only a few would even matter to all the school children in Cantha or Tyria.

Dhuum fits the ticket all too well.

penguo

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17 Sep 2006 at 00:12 - 125

Well after some hell of my own, I figured out I had a duplicate of about twenty pages, which i missed because I said hey 96 is 96 and it isnt here. Also while reading through I noticed in the Paragon section it says " The Paragon will be the tallest player character in Guildwars. When shouting or Chanting buffs in the field, the Paragon's wings will stretch out as he rises in the air, making him even more imposing."
As far as I knew before they just had wings on there armor, but this sounds cool.

ducktape

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17 Sep 2006 at 00:19 - 126

I wonder if we'll learn the forgotten god's name next weekend, it says we get to play all of Istan, which unfortunately is just the starter island. Hopefully they'll spill the secret of which god we get to kill in there somewhere

GloryFox

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17 Sep 2006 at 00:21 - 127

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posted by penguo
As far as I knew before they just had wings on there armor, but this sounds cool.

I agree this sounds so very very very cool. I know that I will indeed have a Paragon for Nightfall.

What’s also interesting is the mention of terrible things happening to Tyria and Cantha with Nightfall being released. This has really peaked my interest.

ducktape

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17 Sep 2006 at 00:24 - 128

Oh wow, that is cool, I definitely want a paragon now if I get to have wings for sure

Hey penguo, does that mean you found the mini-pet key in your magazine after all? I hope so!

EDIT: I don't know how I forgot to mention this earlier, but
There ARE floating palaces in Nightfall!!!!!!
I know that was a popular wish, so I hope lots of people are happy when we get to see them in-game.

Knightsaber Sith

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17 Sep 2006 at 00:34 - 129

Yikes; I see someone's merged that thread from Riverside about the Gray Giant and Japanese minipets

lol

Loviatar

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17 Sep 2006 at 00:46 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducktape

It does sound plausible that the selective salvage would be Nightfall-only, I do hope though that if you can pick your salvage from Nightfall items you can put them on items that you maybe didn't get from Nightfall, like a 20/20 inscription on a Factions item you already have.

that only refers to salvage.

once you have a mod salvaged it is simply a mod that you can do whatever you want to with it.

it only said that now you get to choose what mod you salvage and the weapon is not destroyed.

going on that if you had a really nice prefis AND a terriffic suffix it looks like you could salvage one of them without damaging the weapon and then do a second salvage to get the other mod as well.

and still have the weapon with whatever inherent mods left over

Das Hip

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17 Sep 2006 at 01:22 - 131

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Originally Posted by Mindcrime

Gold weapons will be even more cheaper now. Since you could take any bad req 7/8 sword, axe, hammer and turn it into a perfect one. It might sound good to many but the rarity and the reward for a high-end player with good items; can literraly be achieved by a new player within 1 month, apart from FoW armor which requires experience for "how to get the money". I know, I'll probably playing the wrong game; maybe WoW is a better candidate for high-end players with ambitions for uniqueness and reward. But after 16 months in GW, I kinda stuck with this game and will accept new updates even though day by day; GW bury their own grave.

Mindcrime, Darkwasp , .. Although I think you got wrong how 'inscriptions' will work or be implemented, I do share your concern about rarity, especially when it comes to salvaging items. Items (especially weapons mods) aren inherently rare and hard to get in Guildwars because they salvage randomly... By instituting selectable salvaging they're going to throw the economy out of whack for sometime, and yes, make mods (be them perfect or not) a much less valuable thing , and less of an edge on the competition... Game nerfs.. for better or for worse??

Loviatar

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17 Sep 2006 at 01:40 - 132

Quote:

Originally Posted by Das Hip

Mindcrime, Darkwasp , .. Although I think you got wrong how 'inscriptions' will work or be implemented?

inscriptions are the built in modifiers that are there before you add either a prefix or suffix to the weapon.

what they have simply done is add a 3rd class of tradable/sellable/givable modifier to the game

1 PREFIXEX
2 SUFFIXES
3 INSCRIPTIONS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindcrime
Gold weapons will be even more cheaper now. Since you could take any bad req 7/8 sword, axe, hammer and turn it into a perfect one. It might sound good to many but the rarity and the reward for a high-end player with good items; can literraly be achieved by a new player within 1 month

and that is exactly what they want to do so live with it.

they want the more casual player to be able to get nice things and if a few eliteist farmers lose some gold so what

O.....M.......G.....some newcomer can actually have a nice weapon

CalypsoX

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17 Sep 2006 at 02:00 - 133

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

I agree this sounds so very very very cool. I know that I will indeed have a Paragon for Nightfall.

What’s also interesting is the mention of terrible things happening to Tyria and Cantha with Nightfall being released. This has really peaked my interest.

Remember when tombs was invaded by the chaos realm (realm of torment now) creatures. Remeber the Jade Wind festival with the "special missions" require you to tackle chaos portals opening up and chaos enemies (many of whom were called tormented something) invading shing jea. Both these events had little relevance to the prophecies and factions storyline, so it seems logical the chaos realm invasion is a result of this mysterious banished god, and we will likely see more portals opening up in Tyria and Cantha as a result.

To all those whining/complaining about the inscription salvaging ruining the game/economy, there's already a (closed) thread on the Riverside Inn about this. To this end, I just have to say people get worked up over something to which they have NO idea of how it works actually, and then proceed to make grand speculations about how "MANY, MANY" people will quit the game because of this. /shakes head

Moiax

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17 Sep 2006 at 02:01 - 134

Quote:

Originally Posted by Das Hip

Mindcrime, Darkwasp , .. Although I think you got wrong how 'inscriptions' will work or be implemented, I do share your concern about rarity, especially when it comes to salvaging items. Items (especially weapons mods) aren inherently rare and hard to get in Guildwars because they salvage randomly... By instituting selectable salvaging they're going to throw the economy out of whack for sometime, and yes, make mods (be them perfect or not) a much less valuable thing , and less of an edge on the competition... Game nerfs.. for better or for worse??

Items and armor were never intended to "give you an edge". Armor and weapon mods allow you to tailor you equipment to your needs.
I have yet to acquire a +5 energy weapon for any of my chars, but if I wanted to pvp, A-Net will give me one for free.

The skin market will still be strong, and if it lowers the price, fine. This game was intended to be a skill focused game, that would accomidate casual players, and put them on even ground with the kids who play all day.

I like it.

Loviatar

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17 Sep 2006 at 02:25 - 135

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moiax

I have yet to acquire a +5 energy weapon for any of my chars, but if I wanted to pvp, A-Net will give me one for free. .

I like it.

there is a collector +5 energy wand from the collector right outside nolani academy for the princely trade of 3 char carvings

Lady Lozza

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17 Sep 2006 at 03:22 - 136

Argh there was a thread around for Australians but I can't find it anymore and the new search function is really, really bad.

I was talking to a friend who works at a large newsagent in the city. She rang supply for me re: PC Gamer November issue. They are not expecting to receive it before mid-December and they get whatever doesn't sell in the US.

What this means is that POTENTIALLY Australians might not get it at all, and certainly if you are outside of the large cities I imagine you will not have an easy time trying to get your hands on a copy of the magazine.

MOST LIKELY, we will get in mid-December and they will sellout fairly quickly. Most specialised gaming stores don't seem to be able to get magazines any faster than the local newso, however if someone does find the November issue in Aust, please let us know

In the meantime I need to find my cousin's phone number, she's in the US atm ;D

Thallandor

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17 Sep 2006 at 03:33 - 137

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguo

Well after some hell of my own, I figured out I had a duplicate of about twenty pages, which i missed because I said hey 96 is 96 and it isnt here. Also while reading through I noticed in the Paragon section it says " The Paragon will be the tallest player character in Guildwars. When shouting or Chanting buffs in the field, the Paragon's wings will stretch out as he rises in the air, making him even more imposing."
As far as I knew before they just had wings on there armor, but this sounds cool.

I too have read that portion and was seemingly intrigued at the prospect of having wings that spread while i float chanting buffs but.....it may not all be what it seems to suggest.

a) We dont know if the Wings are infact wings on the armour (size unknown on higher end armour) or infact wings CGI generated from casting spells much like the current CGs eles and mesmers have for casting spells.

b) About the floating bit, Eles while casting spells already "rises in the air" slightly and seening how the models of the paragon resembles that of the elementalist, it doesnt seem unlikely the description is merely trying to stir our imaginations wild.

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Originally Posted by CalypsoX

To all those whining/complaining about the inscription salvaging ruining the game/economy, there's already a (closed) thread on the Riverside Inn about this. To this end, I just have to say people get worked up over something to which they have NO idea of how it works actually, and then proceed to make grand speculations about how "MANY, MANY" people will quit the game because of this. /shakes head

To our defense, the same crap you posted was said about Alliances(town control and Faction Farming) and Elite missions in factions weeks before it was actually released and has been in controvesy ever since. The article in PC gamer was very specific about how inscriptions will work and the consequences were easy enough to comprehend.

GloryFox

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17 Sep 2006 at 03:47 - 138

One thing I like about GW was that it strayed away from gore. I am a little concerned about the Flesh level. NOW ANET IS THIS NESSICARY?

Will this area be mandatory to travel through? If so I am afraid that GW will take a turn for the worse.

So far the scariest thing in the game I have seen has been a Murssat. Gross was never a problem so I would let my 12 year old Son play the game. Now this has me very concerned.

ANET please do not lower yourself to Diablo II or worse.

Loviatar

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17 Sep 2006 at 04:02 - 139

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

So far the scariest thing in the game I have seen has been a Murssat. Gross was never a problem so I would let my 12 year old Son play the game. Now this has me very concerned.

ANET please do not lower yourself to Diablo II or worse.

sorry but have you checked that it is rated *TEEN* and not *everybody*?

if the child were 8 would you still let them play?

it is up tp the parent to decide what to let their UNDER AGE RATED child see not make us all come down to the level of your childs comfort zone.

you are choosing to let an under age child play it so that is your decision

sindex

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17 Sep 2006 at 04:36 - 140

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

One thing I like about GW was that it strayed away from gore. I am a little concerned about the Flesh level. NOW ANET IS THIS NESSICARY?

Will this area be mandatory to travel through? If so I am afraid that GW will take a turn for the worse.

So far the scariest thing in the game I have seen has been a Murssat. Gross was never a problem so I would let my 12 year old Son play the game. Now this has me very concerned.

ANET please do not lower yourself to Diablo II or worse.

Well if anybody played, “Ninja Gaiden” (the Xbox version) people will remember the last areas of the game were pretty gruesome (especially the Imperil Palace); that’s what I can see with this, just toned down a bit for the teen rating.

arcanemacabre

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17 Sep 2006 at 05:46 - 141

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

ANET please do not lower yourself to Diablo II or worse.

I agree with Loviatar on the fact that you only have yourself to blame for not paying attention to the Rating.

But on a 'lighter' note, Diablo II paled in comparison to the original... Anyone remember "The Butcher"? The room he was in had some of the most gorey and gruesome things I've ever seen. (don't tell anyone... I loved it!

)

Yawgmoth

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17 Sep 2006 at 06:09 - 142

Quote:

"Inscriptions" are "inherent bonus modifiers for weapons" and can be transferred among weapons, or sold for gold. Also, no more salvaging what you don't want, you can choose what component you want to salvage.

So this is Anet's way of dealing with the lack of a decent trading system - Destroy the economy! (at least the gold-items market) For sure easier than creating a decent auction house...
The new trading will be like "WTS +15^50 Sword Inscription" and those will be cheap if salvaging them will be easy and inexpensive... golds will be dirt cheap as perfect inherent mods will be meaningless.

GloryFox

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17 Sep 2006 at 06:13 - 143

Quote:

[posted by GloryFox
So far the scariest thing in the game I have seen has been a Murssat. Gross was never a problem so I would let my 12 year old Son play the game. Now this has me very concerned.

Quote:

posted by Lovitar
sorry but have you checked that it is rated *TEEN* and not *everybody*?

if the child were 8 would you still let them play?

it is up tp the parent to decide what to let their UNDER AGE RATED child see not make us all come down to the level of your childs comfort zone.

you are choosing to let an under age child play it so that is your decision

Apparently they do not teach English very well in your schools the word would does not mean I do let him play dont just assume things. The aspect of this level is borderline Mature (17+) is of real concern and I am sorry you can't see this. Guild Wars was refreshing from the gore that was Diablo II (one of the many reasons why I stoped playing it). This is not something I want to return to.

gangguard

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17 Sep 2006 at 06:57 - 144

I got my PC gamer mag yesterday :P and im halfway across the world in Asia, without reading this post i didnt even realise there was a grey giant mini-pet XD

arcanemacabre

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17 Sep 2006 at 07:25 - 145

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

Apparently they do not teach English very well in your schools the word would does not mean I do let him play dont just assume things. The aspect of this level is borderline Mature (17+) is of real concern and I am sorry you can't see this. Guild Wars was refreshing from the gore that was Diablo II (one of the many reasons why I stoped playing it). This is not something I want to return to.

You said "Gross was never a problem so I would let my 12 year old Son play the game." That implies the definition of the word "would" in the sense you used it to be: "accustomed to, or do usually or often", per example: "We would visit Grandma every morning up at the farm." - or did they not teach you that words have multiple meanings and connotations in your schools?

Also, who are you to judge the "aspects of maturity levels" in video games? That's what we have a rating system for (thanks to Mortal Kombat and the bitchy parents of that day), and games are scrutinized to that level, not yours. If you choose to stop playing because the game falls out of your own personal taste in maturity levels, that is your perogative, but don't push your ideals of decency and morality on everyone else.

Lady Lozza

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17 Sep 2006 at 08:15 - 146

Actually in this case the use of "would" really is ambigous.
GloryFox could mean one of two things:
1) Gross isn't a problem, she would let her son play (if he asked/wanted), or
2) Gross wasn't a problem, she has (in the past) let her son play.
Honestly I took it to mean #1 as the basis of her post, indeed the entire thread, focuses on the present moment. Would in the past tense is used to signify actions that have occurred often in a distant moment in the past, (common) events which do not happen anymore.
eg - Once/then we would walk home from school = Once/then we used to walk home from schol.
The use of "would" in the past tense cannot be taken to mean that it happens at all in the present, quite the opposite in fact.

Also, since it is her son, she has every right and the responsibility to ensure that he is not exposed to what might be considered to be a "bad influence". Ratings exist as a guide for parents, they are not the absolute authority on the matter.

I, for one, would not like to see gore in GW and I don't believe I'm the only one. It has NOTHING to do with morality or decency. I love horror movies, action, sci-fi, sometimes the more violent they are the better they are. In the case of GW however, I simply don't believe it is necessary, and that it will add nothing but strain to computer system resources, to have such "luxuries" in-game.

IMHO GloryFox has every right to be concerned, and to voice that concern to others. She doesn't want violence in the game, that is her opinion and she isn't the only one to have it. Voicing such ideas is not "pushing" it on people. I've not seen her preaching endlessly the many sins of video games in any of her posts. She has merely expressed a concern that an increase in "realism" will push the border of what she would classify as "good taste" and that the current rating might no longer be appropriate.

arcanemacabre

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17 Sep 2006 at 08:56 - 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

IMHO GloryFox has every right to be concerned, and to voice that concern to others. She doesn't want violence in the game, that is her opinion and she isn't the only one to have it. Voicing such ideas is not "pushing" it on people. I've not seen her preaching endlessly the many sins of video games in any of her posts. She has merely expressed a concern that an increase in "realism" will push the border of what she would classify as "good taste" and that the current rating might no longer be appropriate.

I apologize for coming on a bit strong in my retort toward GloryFox. However, the idea of what is acceptable in video games is certainly subjective. Discussion is welcome, and I'm sorry for exclaiming 'end-all-be-all'.

Regardless, she was talking about her 12-year-old son. The connotation of 'would' still means nothing because the Teen rating straight-up says "have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older". This means that already she feels her son is mature enough to have access to that level of violence or other adult situations within that criteria.

If the game exceeds her ideal of acceptable adult situations/violence, but remains in the ESRB standard for the Teen rating, she should simply not allow her son to play. If she or anyone else feels the rating itself is in err, then take that up with the ESRB, not Guild Wars or Anet. It's not their fault.

They may push the envelope, but that's what the envelope is their for. I say more power to them. If they can still market the game to young adults, snuggle the line of decency, yet keep an immersive storyline and fun gameplay, fantastic! Be comforted by the apparent fact that they will not cross the line into Mature 17+.

That said, I want an edge of horror thrown into the game, and I think Nightfall will deliver. I can't wait! We already know we'll probably be on edge just walking through explorables and missions, never knowing where that next trap is. I want some Doom3-quality scarefests! I have yet to see anything in either chapter that gave me the heebie-jeebies... except maybe the first time I saw Minister Cho transform.... hmm...

CalypsoX

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17 Sep 2006 at 09:10 - 148

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallandor

To our defense, the same crap you posted was said about Alliances(town control and Faction Farming) and Elite missions in factions weeks before it was actually released and has been in controvesy ever since. The article in PC gamer was very specific about how inscriptions will work and the consequences were easy enough to comprehend.

But, those things affected everyone who played the game, and more so the majority who don't control any towns/outposts. This change woud potentially only affect (negatively) the filthy rich population (who will find a way to get richer) or those that just have to collect every possible rare, perfect weapon and show off to their friends (which they can still do if for instance certain skins are extremely rare). Last time I checked, these people didn't fall into the "many, many" category.

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17 Sep 2006 at 10:03 - 149

i got kinda problem like that to,
i added the pre-oder key to my account but "Account Mangament" i cant see i alrdy did this, so could it be you can only see it when nighfall releases?

ilovecp

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17 Sep 2006 at 10:31 - 150

This is what I got

Knightsaber Sith

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17 Sep 2006 at 13:48 - 151

If it says it got added you should be fine; it'll show up in key management by the time the preview event rolls around

Loviatar

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17 Sep 2006 at 16:24 - 152

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

Apparently they do not teach English very well in your schools the word would does not mean I do let him play dont just assume things. .

if anybody needs a refresher in english it is you .

i made zero assumptions and stated even fewer

when i said

Quote:

if the child were 8 would you still let them play?

it was what is known as.......a rhetorical question

i did not make any statement on what you were doing but simply asking if your child were much younger would you let them play at all?

i stated that whatever you did was your decision and made zero assumptions on what actions you are taking/will take in that rhetorical question

i will also repeat that i do not wish to be dragged below the rating of the game just so an underaged child can be comforatable playing it.

and it is refreshing that you would not think of making assumptions of your own while accusing me of assuming

EDIT

I SEE THAT YOU WERE REFERING TO YOUR *WOULD* YOU POSTED WHILE I WAS REFERING TO THE *WOULD* THAT I POSTED

GloryFox

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17 Sep 2006 at 18:06 - 153

Quote:

posted by arcanemacabre
Regardless, she was talking about her 12-year-old son. The connotation of 'would' still means nothing because the Teen rating straight-up says "have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older". This means that already she feels her son is mature enough to have access to that level of violence or other adult situations within that criteria.

Thank you I was trying to use my son as an example and failed miserably at it. So let me clarify some more.

The Matrix is rated R, very cool move, lots of fun, but still rated R (and yes I allow my son to watch the Matrix). However H O S T E L is also rated R and contains so much gross violence that most movies reviewers simply left the screening. I would never ever consider seeing it myself let alone allow my son to see it, and yet this movie is rated the same as the Matrix. Now for me if ANET goes in the direction of H O S T E L then I’m gone as a player they will never see me again. I know I will not be the only one. The description in this Magazine described the "Flesh Level" the kind of gross that I strive to avoid in all forms. THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG IF ANET THINKS THEY MUST PUT THIS IN, TRUTH IS THEY DONT.

One last thing this is not a squeamish issue as I was a Butcher (Meat Cutter) for 7 years. I can personally strip a cow of call possible uses and sell it to the public without an afterthought.

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posted by Lady Lozza
I, for one, would not like to see gore in GW and I don't believe I'm the only one. It has NOTHING to do with morality or decency. I love horror movies, action, sci-fi, sometimes the more violent they are the better they are. In the case of GW however, I simply don't believe it is necessary, and that it will add nothing but strain to computer system resources, to have such "luxuries" in-game.

IMHO GloryFox has every right to be concerned, and to voice that concern to others. She doesn't want violence in the game, that is her opinion and she isn't the only one to have it. Voicing such ideas is not "pushing" it on people. I've not seen her preaching endlessly the many sins of video games in any of her posts. She has merely expressed a concern that an increase in "realism" will push the border of what she would classify as "good taste" and that the current rating might no longer be appropriate.

Nice to see I have some support out there and Im a HE not a SHE.

Knightsaber Sith

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17 Sep 2006 at 18:11 - 154

This thread seems to be getting a touch off topic

lol

GloryFox

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17 Sep 2006 at 18:44 - 155

We are discussing the Flesh Level as described in the PC gamer issue. How is that off topic?

Shadow

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17 Sep 2006 at 18:54 - 156

Of course NF will top Prophecies. It's pulling a Power Rangers In Space type dealy, if in fact it is going to tie up lose ends.

Morphin' time!

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

17 Sep 2006 at 18:58 - 157

I said it was getting slightly off topic; it's sounds like a few people are starting to get into personal argument wars rather than actually discussing flesh level or other things in the mag.

Silas Verdeii

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Vancouver, Canada

Warrior Druids of Silvari

17 Sep 2006 at 19:21 - 158

all I can say is wow!
There are alot of new features to be excited about.
the inscriptions sound cool, the change in armor crafting that has been mentioned sounds intruiging. I love the idea of heros and the wurm thing could pan out in either an ok or a really neat way. either way we can't really lose i don't think.
I'm not very keen on the hell level personally. but looking at the quality of work that Guild Wars has shown so far, i won't be too worried until i have reason to be. When the game is essentially based on fighting and killing and war, it's inevitable that there will be a fair amount of gore involved. Though i definately prefer fighting in pleasant environment than bloody ones. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.
I'm just excited really about getting to throw spears

EDIT: Does the article mention anything about the new skills for the core profession. I remember that was one of the things that got me the most excited about factions. I really enjoy creating new builds and the like with the new skills

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

17 Sep 2006 at 21:31 - 159

I'm kinda disappointed in the PC Gamer deal. Before the November issue was out, it looked like they were basically saying buy the issue and you get a minipet. But now we find out we have to do a quest(or "mission" as the magazine calls it on the cover) and the pet will disappear after the preview event is over. So people only have that much time to get the minipet and go to other places in GW and show it off. And I can hardly wait to hear about people selling them to other gamers who don't know about these specifics, who will be upset or confused when it disappears and they've been ripped off.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

17 Sep 2006 at 21:38 - 160

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linksys

And I can hardly wait to hear about people selling them to other gamers who don't know about these specifics, who will be upset or confused when it disappears and they've been ripped off.

AS SOON AS YOU BUY THE RETAIL GAME YOU REPEAT THE SAME LITTLE QUEST, GET IT AGAIN FOR KEEPS.

BETTER?

since you have to create a character in game and everything is deleted anyway nobody loses a gold piece