Signet of Might - Ridiculous Annihilation

Taurohtar

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

How much longer will this go on? Or more importantly, how long has it been going on?

I've specced over 5 games in under 10 minutes...

WiLdFiRe111

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Melbourne, Australia

[LBS]

What do you mean?

Cracko

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Yes, i still dont get this bug but its rediculous, ladder %@!# now.

JC68

JC68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Slovakia

DVD Forums [DVDF]

W/

Signet of Might
Elite Signet. Target allied summoned creature's attacks deal 10...26 more damage. After 10 seconds, that creature is destroyed.

this skill is ruining ladder now, when you are reading my post. Some guilds (and their number will rise) are using this skill to destroy Guild Lord. This is how it works. Rt will create Union or other spirit, after this put signet of might on it and i dont know how, but after 10 seconds Guild Lord is DEAD (game probably thinks that Guild Lord is summoned creature or what...)

so what now? how to "fix" storm in ladder?

Celeborn

Celeborn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

Mo/Me

What bug? :S

JC68

JC68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Slovakia

DVD Forums [DVDF]

W/

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10050341

was writing it, while you created this thread...

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

unbelievable that such a bug has been ignored up to now

this is SO lame! And it is an evident EXPLOIT! I hope that Anet will do a little justice, but as usual I don't expect much.

JC68

JC68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Slovakia

DVD Forums [DVDF]

W/

well we will see...

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

It's a freaking BETA test. This is exactly why they're running it - to see which skills need to be modified.

Lord Oranos

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

quite the show

Sinborn

Sinborn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

California

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
It's a freaking BETA test. This is exactly why they're running it - to see which skills need to be modified.
Pseudo-beta. True beta tests aren't supposed to affect the released product.

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

anet should fire all their alpha testers and do a roll back this is sad

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

anet should stop hiring retards that cant even make skills work properly, the skill says "target allied summoned creature's attacks deal X more damage. After 10 seconds that creature is destroyed." so why the hell does it instantly kill enemies???????????????????????????????

Tingi

Tingi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

I think it's just been fixed.

Anryla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Alt Control Delete

W/

I cant understand why they don't lock the ladder during these events.
I have been on two of these nightfall events and both affected the ladder bigtime.
First it was the Sand Shard and to some extend D/Mo teams.
Now this?
I vote for Ladder lock during preview events when new skills are introduced. But this has to stop and hopefully they are as quick as they were on the Sand Shard exploit.

Edit: New build came up so they have probably fixed it, two thumbs up again ANet

JC68

JC68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Slovakia

DVD Forums [DVDF]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
It's a freaking BETA test. This is exactly why they're running it - to see which skills need to be modified.
in that case, they should freeze ladder

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Looks like they fixed it.

edit: oh ok

Bane of Worlds

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

this is somewhat unexpected but there's no need to take people's jobs away for something like this.

Celios

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

Are we gonna see a ladder rollback? Maybe have some of the offending teams punished?

This is just blatant cheating really.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

pseudo beta indeed. it is OPEN ladder play.

I can not say anything but: Wow. GG ANet.

Zonzai

Zonzai

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

E/

The ladder got pretty screwed up when Factions came out too didn't it? In the end, between ANet banning guilds, fixing bugs and the ability of those with skill to eventually overcome those without skill, things will be back to normal.

Bane of Worlds

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

this would only give those guilds a temporary advantage but it should been known that newly introduced skills have adverse effects on the game.

Unsung

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Just got fixed

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Gaile confirmed the fix on GWO. However, she didn't confirm what would happen to the offending guilds. Ban them all, I say.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

pseudo beta indeed. it is OPEN ladder play.

I can not say anything but: Wow. GG ANet.

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

What was the problem with it? How can 10...26 dmg kill the guild lord so fast?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
What was the problem with it? How can 10...26 dmg kill the guild lord so fast?
Perhaps the "dead in 10 seconds" part?

Well, it's been fixed, now.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonzai
The ladder got pretty screwed up when Factions came out too didn't it?
Bingo. Lesson learned - if your guild doesn't want to get nailed by a potential skill exploit in the BETA test, then simply don't GvG during the beta event. A-Net has to test the skills somehow, and no matter how many Alpha testers they have, they can't identify every type of potential exploit.

I agree that freezing the ladder during the beta event is a good idea - but then they'd lose some of the innovation/experience that helps them identify such a major exploit.

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

Oh.. Another thread here. The other will probably get closed/merged. What exactly was the bug? It doesnt sound THAT good..

madman420

madman420

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
What was the problem with it? How can 10...26 dmg kill the guild lord so fast?
They cast it on the guild lord so after 10 secs he instantly died.

B Ephekt

B Ephekt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Team Crystalline [TC]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
What was the problem with it? How can 10...26 dmg kill the guild lord so fast?
The damage wasn't killing the Guild Lord, Signet of Might was "destroying" the target it was cast on after 10 seconds.

Celios

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
Oh.. Another thread here. The other will probably get closed/merged. What exactly was the bug? It doesnt sound THAT good..
Being able to walk in, use 1 skill and have a guild lord instantly explode with no chance of healing/stopping it doesn't sound "THAT good" to you?

huMptY DumPty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

[BAN]

W/

yeah I was playing few HA matches, and we noticed something is killing us instantly.

For those who don't know all you need to do is to have one spirit close to you (pain, recuperation, etc) and to the target. Cast Signet of Might to *the target*, and .... 10 seconds later.... target is *dead*

Yes, it caused some ridiculous complaints, and havoc in guild ladder
Glitches Ftw :P

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celios
Being able to walk in, use 1 skill and have a guild lord instantly explode with no chance of healing/stopping it doesn't sound "THAT good" to you?
I thought it was cast on your own spirits...?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
I thought it was cast on your own spirits...?
Why did you think it was a bug?

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Suprised Anet didn't learn their lesson from last time and lock the ladder...

I don't blame the players, blame Anet for releasing an unfinished product during an open season with real prizes.

Bankai

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

One thing: Don't ban the guys running it. Maybe reset their rank, but don't ban. A lot of people were running it for fun, just to have a laugh. And to be honest, I didn't have a lot of problems playing against them.

Taurohtar

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

I'm glad it's fixed.

How it worked from the guild I was watching:
  1. The guild split
  2. A/Rt, W/Rt, Monk and other went to other teams base with Guild Thief
  3. Others defended their own base with speed reducing hexes incase other guild was running this
  4. W/Rt or A/Rt casts a spirit near the lord
  5. They then cast Signet of Might onto the Guildlord
  6. After 10 seconds the Guildlord dies

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celios
Are we gonna see a ladder rollback? Maybe have some of the offending teams punished?

This is just blatant cheating really.
what about a fame rollback, I'm sure some people picked up tons with this,

HolyHawk

HolyHawk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

lf guild~

Me/A

I just logged in and noticed there was no games to watch and asked guildies what happened. Quite stupid bug, I don't really blame beta testers, but anet should have locked ladder during this event for sure; running for fun is an excuse for ruining the fun, and it fits the bug exploit thing. Reseting their rank sounds fair.