the Glyph of Renewal/Divine Spirit is a spammers build, its kinda out there and hardly ever used, I think in the total amount of RA matches ive done, ive seen it once (boon/prots are far more common, ive even seen a 4 man TEAM of boon/prots, same exact build for everyone). If anytime my guild wants me to monk, i'll tell them "Erm......hes stuck.....downloading 400 megs, cant play"
PuG Monks driving me INSANE!
TheProject
@Family Draconis:
the Glyph of Renewal/Divine Spirit is a spammers build, its kinda out there and hardly ever used, I think in the total amount of RA matches ive done, ive seen it once (boon/prots are far more common, ive even seen a 4 man TEAM of boon/prots, same exact build for everyone). If anytime my guild wants me to monk, i'll tell them "Erm......hes stuck.....downloading 400 megs, cant play"
the Glyph of Renewal/Divine Spirit is a spammers build, its kinda out there and hardly ever used, I think in the total amount of RA matches ive done, ive seen it once (boon/prots are far more common, ive even seen a 4 man TEAM of boon/prots, same exact build for everyone). If anytime my guild wants me to monk, i'll tell them "Erm......hes stuck.....downloading 400 megs, cant play"
EPO Bot
There was a lvl 16 monk in dunes of despair yesterday. She only used HB once every 30 seconds and didn't seem to have any other skills.
and she still had her starter armor...
and she still had her starter armor...
Smile Like Umean It
Lol. That's sad.
Why would you even go with them if you knew they were wearing starter armor?
Why would you even go with them if you knew they were wearing starter armor?
luinks
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funny story, one monk/ele i saw was using Glyph of Renewal and divine favor for healing. it made me sad T_T
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Dawgboy
I don't know why there's all this HB hate. it mends conditions better than... Mend Conditions. It seems as soon as I use MC on someone that's poisoned he takes more poison damage. Its best use is after the mob is wiped to clean up anyone still degening. It also has a slooow recharge. I do keep it on my bar, though, for blind wars and such.
If I wait to hit them with HB until their health is degened down to 50-75% (depending on if they're taking other damage) I don't waste any health on them and I can usually not worry about them for a few seconds.
HB is NOT spammable-it has its uses and spamming it for general heals isn't one of them. I've seen those Healing Breeze+Heal Party-spamming monks too, and it makes me wish there was a /slapupsideyourhead emote.
The OP mentioned that any good monk can just hench any mission/quest/thing and that's usually true-I henched Defend Drok's without anyone being killed till I hit the last boss pack, but I had to party up to do the "Defend" quest that started at Frontier's Gate. lvl6 henchmen and titans don't mix. I actually partied with two eles and an ss necro and we did it in three tries. The first time out I was using rebirth on the dead party member just as the last titan in the mob was being killed. I forgot that some titans' deaths mean more spawn there-and I happened to be standing right next to him as he died. It was a quick but painful death.
Plus, pugs do have entertainment value.
Henching everything is kind of boring. If I join a pug there's no telling what will happen. It might be a great party where everyone knows their job or it might be a total goat**** where they split up and start yelling at each other. I guess I've been lucky, because I've seen a lot more of the first example.
If I wait to hit them with HB until their health is degened down to 50-75% (depending on if they're taking other damage) I don't waste any health on them and I can usually not worry about them for a few seconds.
HB is NOT spammable-it has its uses and spamming it for general heals isn't one of them. I've seen those Healing Breeze+Heal Party-spamming monks too, and it makes me wish there was a /slapupsideyourhead emote.
The OP mentioned that any good monk can just hench any mission/quest/thing and that's usually true-I henched Defend Drok's without anyone being killed till I hit the last boss pack, but I had to party up to do the "Defend" quest that started at Frontier's Gate. lvl6 henchmen and titans don't mix. I actually partied with two eles and an ss necro and we did it in three tries. The first time out I was using rebirth on the dead party member just as the last titan in the mob was being killed. I forgot that some titans' deaths mean more spawn there-and I happened to be standing right next to him as he died. It was a quick but painful death.
Plus, pugs do have entertainment value.
Henching everything is kind of boring. If I join a pug there's no telling what will happen. It might be a great party where everyone knows their job or it might be a total goat**** where they split up and start yelling at each other. I guess I've been lucky, because I've seen a lot more of the first example.
Arcanis the Omnipotent
Being rather inexperienced with my monk, I'm more of a heal bomb. Able to do huge heals all at once as opposed to small heals over time. This being the case I've yet to get into groups with PuGs because of the bitching I would probably recieve.
Most Monk players should be required to play with nothing but henches in the difficult areas of the game, just so they learn faster. Because if you can keep those little AI bastards alive, you can keep anyone alive.
Most Monk players should be required to play with nothing but henches in the difficult areas of the game, just so they learn faster. Because if you can keep those little AI bastards alive, you can keep anyone alive.
Lytha
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Lol. That's sad.
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Before this new armor, she got spammed with blind invites just like normal. Quite annoying, as she's attempting to survive; and that's why she's only teaming up with henchies anyway.
Now with the starter style, max armorlevel armor...
... almost no blind invites in the mission outposts
... being approached by some random wammo stranger in ascalon armor, who told her that she was a *beep*ing noob and suchlike - I can only assume that his outburst was because of the armor, as she hadn't ever met him before and not interacted with him before this outburst.
... the occasional random party members will approach her in the "I am following (a monk)!"-style, but the party leaders won't consider blind inviting her.
I had selected the armor because I adore the style. But this is a wonderful side effect (the cursing wammo aside.)
About the horrible PuG monks: I've noticed them half a year ago just as much as recently. They were one of my reasons why my previous monks never teamed up with another human monk in the areas with party size = 6 (every monk should learn how to keep 6 people alive -alone-, at least.) They were also an endless reason for joy of my ritlord ritualist (before the nerf): HB and HP spammers got all the praise.
Henchies ftw.
Dixie Lady
OMG.. you ppl judge players by their style of armour????
I spent alot on my 60armour but in 3 of my chars I prefer the look of the starter armour. I spent hours pouring over photos of every single type of armour. Example, the Ascalon monk.. I really like it.. but to call it noob armour? I got the best and also covered her in runes.
How funny now to think I will be falsely considered a noob by what I wear.
I spent alot on my 60armour but in 3 of my chars I prefer the look of the starter armour. I spent hours pouring over photos of every single type of armour. Example, the Ascalon monk.. I really like it.. but to call it noob armour? I got the best and also covered her in runes.
How funny now to think I will be falsely considered a noob by what I wear.
Jas D
Just take henches or heroes when NF is released
Dien
Seen 55 monks,Mending bonders,healing breenze spämmers in random partys. id suggest you would trust alesia and lina ^^
Trvth Jvstice
There's a monk build that is supposed to use starter armor. Though I doubt that the aforementioned monk was using that build.
Smile Like Umean It
I have aboslutely no problem with the look of anyones armor. Most time I don't even bother to see what they're using. But, he said they had starter armor not that it looked like starter armor.
Pebbles
I can see what you mean. I always go in PuGs with my monk and I think i'm pretty effective I can make some pretty impressive saves. Judge for yourself if you think i'm lame.
Orison
RoF
Dywanas kiss
WoH
Sig of devotion (love this signet.)
Mend aliment (I would go mend condition if I trusted teamates or hench)
Healing touch (for myself)
Rebirth
I like PuG's because it's rewarding like working with special children and somtimes the pepole are OMG skilled and thats always refreshing to see new ideas actually in practice.
Anyway I was trying the "ring of fire mission" yesterday so it wasn't some newbie place, and the other monk I was with was beyond terrible. it was 5 minutes in and I realized that this monk wasn't as proficent as I was
Ie 3 pepole get hit 2 badly 1 minorly I pick to heal one of the badly hurt ones and leave the other badly hurt one for the other guy (to avoid healer overlap)... I will get back to the minor one in a moment. but after I was done with both of them the other monk had still failed to heal the badly hurt warrior dispite having many seconds to do so... I have to do that one aswell.
The only skills I could see this person using were "Sheild of Regeneration (e)" "Protective spirit" and nothing else And they would complain that they ran out of energy and would spend the majority of the time sitting doing nothing. I asked them about this and they said that they ran out of energy all the time and couldn't help it, They couldn't find a working monk build!!!??? $*%#£%!!
The thing that made me cry was that this monk told me that she'd managed to complete all the missions and all the bonuses bar 2... The number of teams whitch must have suffered under that type of "monking" makes me cringe and feel ill.
when the team had all quit been -60'ed I tried to tell that monk the two premises of good monking.
1: *Don't overheal*
2: Good energy to hp ratio
But I was just laughed at. *sigh*
Orison
RoF
Dywanas kiss
WoH
Sig of devotion (love this signet.)
Mend aliment (I would go mend condition if I trusted teamates or hench)
Healing touch (for myself)
Rebirth
I like PuG's because it's rewarding like working with special children and somtimes the pepole are OMG skilled and thats always refreshing to see new ideas actually in practice.
Anyway I was trying the "ring of fire mission" yesterday so it wasn't some newbie place, and the other monk I was with was beyond terrible. it was 5 minutes in and I realized that this monk wasn't as proficent as I was
Ie 3 pepole get hit 2 badly 1 minorly I pick to heal one of the badly hurt ones and leave the other badly hurt one for the other guy (to avoid healer overlap)... I will get back to the minor one in a moment. but after I was done with both of them the other monk had still failed to heal the badly hurt warrior dispite having many seconds to do so... I have to do that one aswell.
The only skills I could see this person using were "Sheild of Regeneration (e)" "Protective spirit" and nothing else And they would complain that they ran out of energy and would spend the majority of the time sitting doing nothing. I asked them about this and they said that they ran out of energy all the time and couldn't help it, They couldn't find a working monk build!!!??? $*%#£%!!
The thing that made me cry was that this monk told me that she'd managed to complete all the missions and all the bonuses bar 2... The number of teams whitch must have suffered under that type of "monking" makes me cringe and feel ill.
when the team had all quit been -60'ed I tried to tell that monk the two premises of good monking.
1: *Don't overheal*
2: Good energy to hp ratio
But I was just laughed at. *sigh*
Age
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Matsumi
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Seen 55 monks,Mending bonders,healing breenze spämmers in random partys. id suggest you would trust alesia and lina ^^
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.... along with sister tai, and danikaoh noes! I've been breezed! it's the end of the world. lol
saphir
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The thing that made me cry was that this monk told me that she'd managed to complete all the missions and all the bonuses bar 2... The number of teams whitch must have suffered under that type of "monking" makes me cringe and feel ill.
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that's why most monks are ill prepared for high end non-hench areas and so they gotta get in the practice by going w/ pugs. and well, bad pug + bad monk makes for every quick deaths.
Monkey Blonde
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I don't know why there's all this HB hate.
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it mends conditions better than... Mend Conditions.... It also has a slooow recharge.
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Oh, BTW, you don't heal degen with regen. There are guides written by people who know what they are talking about discussing this.
Dawgboy
Okay, okay-I see why there's HB hate now.
I didn't mean to imply that it's an uber end-game skill. Up thru the desert it's good, but that's about it. After that there ARE too many monsters that'll use shatter enchantments.
For instance, I recently did my first Rotscale farming group. I didn't have HB, but I did have Healing Seed and Aegis. I was using both and someone piped up "You DO know what Desecrate Enchantmants does, right?" Oh, crap. Yeah, I know what it does, but I was way back out of the line of fire and didn't realize it was being used. Luckily I had enough straight heals to cover my mistake, but I still felt like the biggest noob.
I guess my point is communication is important and too many pugs don't. I'm just glad someone corrected me before it was too late. If you run into something using Shatter or Desecrate on you and the monk keeps using enchantments please please say something. It's usually obvious, but sometimes I'm too busy healing others to realize your H Seed went blammo after two seconds.
I didn't mean to imply that it's an uber end-game skill. Up thru the desert it's good, but that's about it. After that there ARE too many monsters that'll use shatter enchantments.
For instance, I recently did my first Rotscale farming group. I didn't have HB, but I did have Healing Seed and Aegis. I was using both and someone piped up "You DO know what Desecrate Enchantmants does, right?" Oh, crap. Yeah, I know what it does, but I was way back out of the line of fire and didn't realize it was being used. Luckily I had enough straight heals to cover my mistake, but I still felt like the biggest noob.
I guess my point is communication is important and too many pugs don't. I'm just glad someone corrected me before it was too late. If you run into something using Shatter or Desecrate on you and the monk keeps using enchantments please please say something. It's usually obvious, but sometimes I'm too busy healing others to realize your H Seed went blammo after two seconds.
The Lich Ranger
Henchies Ftw
Monkey Blonde
Uh, yeah. Except henchies throw enchants on you better than anyone.
Kais Unduli
The great debate continues...
The worst monk I've seen in a PuG recently was a Mo/Me who didn't seem that bad at first. And then I noticed the hex degen appearing on other monsters. We had no necro or mesmer in our group (doing Nahpui's Quarter mission btw), so I looked around. The Mo/Me was using Conjure Phantasm and Conjure Nightmare. I did a /doubletake. I asked him to stop using those spells, and he said "how would i do damage then?"
Surprisingly, we beat the mission in master's time. I'm still shocked by this occurence, but even more amazed we made it through the mission.
The worst monk I've seen in a PuG recently was a Mo/Me who didn't seem that bad at first. And then I noticed the hex degen appearing on other monsters. We had no necro or mesmer in our group (doing Nahpui's Quarter mission btw), so I looked around. The Mo/Me was using Conjure Phantasm and Conjure Nightmare. I did a /doubletake. I asked him to stop using those spells, and he said "how would i do damage then?"
Surprisingly, we beat the mission in master's time. I'm still shocked by this occurence, but even more amazed we made it through the mission.
Maria The Princess
i can beat yours "bad monk" experience!
today my guildie and me were doin Dunes of Desair, so rest of the group was a PUG. since i was a Ele and she was a monk we werent worried about healing and took a lvl 19 Mo/E that advertised himself as "exp healer" in the group.
guess what? the Mo/E was casting Flare, Inferno, Phoenix, Meteor shower, Fire attunment, Fire storm and as a heal he choose Healing Breese....
LOL
today my guildie and me were doin Dunes of Desair, so rest of the group was a PUG. since i was a Ele and she was a monk we werent worried about healing and took a lvl 19 Mo/E that advertised himself as "exp healer" in the group.
guess what? the Mo/E was casting Flare, Inferno, Phoenix, Meteor shower, Fire attunment, Fire storm and as a heal he choose Healing Breese....
LOL
cataphract
Mo/E
Saw him cast Glyph of Lesser Energy and figured Aegis will follow it. No such luck.
Meteor shower.
Saw him cast Glyph of Lesser Energy and figured Aegis will follow it. No such luck.
Meteor shower.
Xeeron
I should mention the Mo/W I recently teamed up with for Iron mines. Not only did he go 55 for a mission, but his armor was not infused as well ...
- Xeeron
- Xeeron
Effendi Westland
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I should mention the Mo/W I recently teamed up with for Iron mines. Not only did he go 55 for a mission, but his armor was not infused as well ...
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also players just getting to that mission will NEVER be infused, as this is where you get infused.
Apart from that it's very lame to join a team in a 55 build, it never works, always some mesmers or necros round to take care of the enchantments, or do dmg that goes through protective spirit.
Smile Like Umean It
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i can beat yours "bad monk" experience!
today my guildie and me were doin Dunes of Desair, so rest of the group was a PUG. since i was a Ele and she was a monk we werent worried about healing and took a lvl 19 Mo/E that advertised himself as "exp healer" in the group. guess what? the Mo/E was casting Flare, Inferno, Phoenix, Meteor shower, Fire attunment, Fire storm and as a heal he choose Healing Breese.... LOL |
GloryFox
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posted by Kais Unduli The great debate continues... The worst monk I've seen in a PuG recently was a Mo/Me who didn't seem that bad at first. And then I noticed the hex degen appearing on other monsters. We had no necro or mesmer in our group (doing Nahpui's Quarter mission btw), so I looked around. The Mo/Me was using Conjure Phantasm and Conjure Nightmare. I did a /doubletake. I asked him to stop using those spells, and he said "how would i do damage then?" Surprisingly, we beat the mission in master's time. I'm still shocked by this occurence, but even more amazed we made it through the mission. |
Wait a minute … your complaining because the Monk thought outside the box? He did not seem bad because you did not notice what he was doing? Then he was only bad when you saw he was helping the party with throwing degens while keeping the party alive?
Give a F***ing life Kais Unduli.
If you were being healed just fine you had no RIGHT to complain and you still got Masters how dare you criticize another Monk player for helping you get Masters and throwing some offense at the same time. That ability takes some skill with energy management if you ask me, good for that Monk.
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wattsja
I was taking my Necro through the Seaboard and found 2 "experienced" monks LFG .. added them, formed the rest of the party and headed out. After you exit the boat you come across some Fire Imps at which point our two "experienced" monks (who both had 55 builds) died, not once but 4 times in the first set of imps! Needless to say, we all left them and reformed (sans the "expert" monks) and left them LFG in town.
I know the 55 build has its place, but the PvE world isn't it :\
I know the 55 build has its place, but the PvE world isn't it :\
GloryFox
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The 55 build is a good build but you are correct most (90%) of areas are not for 55 monks.
Jessyi
Wow, this thread is still running strong eh?
If you can't explain to a person that after hex removal, condition removal, energy management and res (optional and I never reccomend it on a monk) that there are much better choices in the healing line than healing breeze...well, you can lead a moron to the obvious but you can't make him think. Give up.
On the other hand, anyone who does understand this will take your stupid henchmen to the cleaners.
Hell, there's even a third option, incredulous as it is: play with monks you know. And if that's not viable, be comforted by the realization that monks typically share an equal part of the failure blame in PvE. Even a monk with healing breeze is much closer to the right track than a warrior with healing breeze. Comprendez?
-Jessyi
If you can't explain to a person that after hex removal, condition removal, energy management and res (optional and I never reccomend it on a monk) that there are much better choices in the healing line than healing breeze...well, you can lead a moron to the obvious but you can't make him think. Give up.
On the other hand, anyone who does understand this will take your stupid henchmen to the cleaners.
Hell, there's even a third option, incredulous as it is: play with monks you know. And if that's not viable, be comforted by the realization that monks typically share an equal part of the failure blame in PvE. Even a monk with healing breeze is much closer to the right track than a warrior with healing breeze. Comprendez?
-Jessyi
EPO Bot
I have to say you can probably find the WORST players possible in the desert missions. Since they are too dumb to find out a way to get past the dophelganger, the morons pool in that area ,ruining the fun until the normal players throw their computer out of the window.
As soon as you get to Glinth, the skillevels magically increase.
As soon as you get to Glinth, the skillevels magically increase.
Dougal Kronik
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If they are 55ing (costs serious money to make) in PvE they are most likely Foreign (non American or European) Gold Farmers.
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The 55 build is a good build but you are correct most (90%) of areas are not for 55 monks.
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Miniflea
I like to consider myself half-decent at monking, and I generally don't bring healing breeze or heal party with me, as I prefer lots of 5 energy heals and one or two 10 energy ones. I've had people compliment me on my healing, and I've had people deride me for not bringing the two skills mentioned above.
Playing with pugs is really just hit or miss. If you can't stand it do what i do almost all of the time: play with people you know in real life or with guildies.
Playing with pugs is really just hit or miss. If you can't stand it do what i do almost all of the time: play with people you know in real life or with guildies.
w00t!
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The great debate continues...
The worst monk I've seen in a PuG recently was a Mo/Me who didn't seem that bad at first. And then I noticed the hex degen appearing on other monsters. We had no necro or mesmer in our group (doing Nahpui's Quarter mission btw), so I looked around. The Mo/Me was using Conjure Phantasm and Conjure Nightmare. I did a /doubletake. I asked him to stop using those spells, and he said "how would i do damage then?" Surprisingly, we beat the mission in master's time. I'm still shocked by this occurence, but even more amazed we made it through the mission. |
I'm not about doing damage to others - I carry a +5 energy sword. But it is fun to feel like you're killing something every now and again , even if it's only causing -1 degen.
Ebony Shadowheart
Wow, hot topic, and somewhat saddening to read.
Personally, if your monk is keeping your butt alive AND fighting with decent dmg I wouldn't complain. Seems like an asset to me.
As for monks only spamming heal party and healing breeze, I haven't encountered anything that makes me growl in irritation. I've seen a few where I though HP was a bit overkill to heal one person, but I just figure that everyone has their own play style.
If you come across a monk that you don't like, or doesn't do a great job (by your standards since it's all personal opinion) just don't group with that person again. You do have the ability to make that choice.
Anyway, I'm rather new to monking myself, but I do use both breeze and heal party occassionally. I don't spam that things because many of you are right, it eats energy like mad. I use a lot of orison, ethereal, WoH or Blessed Light. I don't take condition or hex removers and I find breeze is a decent way to counter the degen and in worse case scenarios stabalize a players health long enough for me to hit them again with something else. I like Dwayna's kiss when a player is hexed and I have breeze on them, but it's not enough. Nice boost to the healing for Kiss.
Essentially every monk has their own build/way of playing. They don't learn by just copying someone elses build and following instructions. That would get mighty boring don't you think?
Personally, if your monk is keeping your butt alive AND fighting with decent dmg I wouldn't complain. Seems like an asset to me.
As for monks only spamming heal party and healing breeze, I haven't encountered anything that makes me growl in irritation. I've seen a few where I though HP was a bit overkill to heal one person, but I just figure that everyone has their own play style.
If you come across a monk that you don't like, or doesn't do a great job (by your standards since it's all personal opinion) just don't group with that person again. You do have the ability to make that choice.
Anyway, I'm rather new to monking myself, but I do use both breeze and heal party occassionally. I don't spam that things because many of you are right, it eats energy like mad. I use a lot of orison, ethereal, WoH or Blessed Light. I don't take condition or hex removers and I find breeze is a decent way to counter the degen and in worse case scenarios stabalize a players health long enough for me to hit them again with something else. I like Dwayna's kiss when a player is hexed and I have breeze on them, but it's not enough. Nice boost to the healing for Kiss.
Essentially every monk has their own build/way of playing. They don't learn by just copying someone elses build and following instructions. That would get mighty boring don't you think?
Kusandaa
A short while ago, I got in a Thirsty River group. They had two monks, which is okay (even though at 6 people, you usually take only one, but oh well...). Fine by me, as long as they help us finish the mission. So we go in... and that's when we realize the monks were BOTH 55's. We try to make without them, but we fail, and we go back to get another monk. Figured he's a 55 too, GG. At least, have the decency to advertise the right build, if you're healer, smite or 55... (and this thing doesn't just apply to monks... we recently had a fire nuker who turned out to be water defense...)
Or this one, that was also advertising as a healer in Imperial Sanctum. Kept wondering why the heals were rather slow - turns out one of the monks is a nuker, and leaves all the job for the other O_o;...
As for my monking abilities... set as Mo/W with a full heal bar. 5e spams, Healing Breeze, Heal Party (I don't use that one often, but it does come handy sometimes), Res chant. Healing Breeze does the job against degens. I've stopped bringing Purge Condition (except sometimes, where enemies can blind often) because the moment I cast it, the target is plagued with Poison/Bleeding right after, and the recharge is long... So far, I've gotten good response to my healing.
PS: Sometimes, all it takes for a monk to be able to heal is for the target to get the heck out of AoE damage... some people just DON'T get it, then blame monks >_<.
PPS: We're not perfect as well... we mess up sometimes, it's normal, just like everyone messes up >_>...
Or this one, that was also advertising as a healer in Imperial Sanctum. Kept wondering why the heals were rather slow - turns out one of the monks is a nuker, and leaves all the job for the other O_o;...
As for my monking abilities... set as Mo/W with a full heal bar. 5e spams, Healing Breeze, Heal Party (I don't use that one often, but it does come handy sometimes), Res chant. Healing Breeze does the job against degens. I've stopped bringing Purge Condition (except sometimes, where enemies can blind often) because the moment I cast it, the target is plagued with Poison/Bleeding right after, and the recharge is long... So far, I've gotten good response to my healing.
PS: Sometimes, all it takes for a monk to be able to heal is for the target to get the heck out of AoE damage... some people just DON'T get it, then blame monks >_<.
PPS: We're not perfect as well... we mess up sometimes, it's normal, just like everyone messes up >_>...
saphir
degen/hex removal vs degen counter -
I'm just wondering how to most monks feel about places like the chaos planes in UW or the spider caves in FOW. I generally don't bring hex or condition removal or heal party. but i find it really helpful when the other monk does in these areas =)
I don't know if removal or counter would be better when your entire party is purple/pink or green, and as soon as it's removed it's back on. Sure SB or martyr would be helpful, but those can be vey area specific that they're not much use when you're in a pug and not sure where you might end up clearing to.
When you're facing 9-12 illusion mesmers or 6 poison rangers, is the removal skill useful as the occasional heal, or would you have rather replaced it w/ something else?
I'm just wondering how to most monks feel about places like the chaos planes in UW or the spider caves in FOW. I generally don't bring hex or condition removal or heal party. but i find it really helpful when the other monk does in these areas =)
I don't know if removal or counter would be better when your entire party is purple/pink or green, and as soon as it's removed it's back on. Sure SB or martyr would be helpful, but those can be vey area specific that they're not much use when you're in a pug and not sure where you might end up clearing to.
When you're facing 9-12 illusion mesmers or 6 poison rangers, is the removal skill useful as the occasional heal, or would you have rather replaced it w/ something else?
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Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
if he goes 55 armor infusion doesnt matter
also players just getting to that mission will NEVER be infused, as this is where you get infused. Apart from that it's very lame to join a team in a 55 build, it never works, always some mesmers or necros round to take care of the enchantments, or do dmg that goes through protective spirit. |
They are Probably just young kids leeching off of you and it the same with a lot of professions the leavers are probably them.
glasseye
Did the Arborstone mission today. I noticed that the other monk wasn't helping much in the healing. I checked what skills he was using and they were mostly smiting skills. When i asked him why he didn't say that he was a smiter when we were forming the group, he said that he does do some healing and that he's a boon smiter. Funny thing is he never had divine boon on himself. In fact, the only enchant he ever had on was when he casted breeze on himself. We had a hard time killing monsters too. Turns out he was using heal area. gg
lg5000
glasseye, that is really sad. Especially if it was heal area which isn't a factions skill...