Livingston's Guide to becoming a Grandmaster Elonian Cartographer! (No Map checks!)
dj deviate
anyone know if you can do the compare layers differnce map on anything other than photoshop? i dont have it on my computer 
TomD22
I guess you could try the gimp, sorta free alternative to photoshop (i think...maybe)
http://www.gimp.org/
http://www.gimp.org/
YunSooJin
I'm at 98.3. The low res maps provided so far don't help with difference mapping at all whatsoever, unless I'm doing something wrong. Could anyone piece together a high quality map and post it? :x
SilentVex
Uuh, check the 1st post maybe?
AlienFromBeyond
Wait, how do you get to the Sunspear Arena?
=HT=Ingram
there is a arena guard right outside the consulate. He will let you through the closed door into the arena. I was in there today and only a few dozen people were there so Obviously people are missing it. lol
SilentVex
It's not that we missed the arena, it's that it wasn't there. Look at the screenshot I posted when I had first gotten my title. No arena guard.
nkari
I believe the arena was added with the last update. I specifically tried to find the entrance to it earlier this week because the collectors edition map shows it there. The guard was not there.
Anyway, just got 100% explored. Thanks to the maps provided here! Yay for Kind of a Big Deal!
Anyway, just got 100% explored. Thanks to the maps provided here! Yay for Kind of a Big Deal!
Livingston
Announcement:
Only 1 hour and 25 minutes left to claim the 10K prize. So far we only have one entry and they were Not the first person on this thread to get the title.
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Only 1 hour and 25 minutes left to claim the 10K prize. So far we only have one entry and they were Not the first person on this thread to get the title.
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^Compare your map to the clean map above you. Use the tactics outlined in Livingstons other GMC thread. It'll save you having to edge the whole map again.
Umm what's wrong with the tactics that I've outlined in this thread?
Livingston
Livingston
Nickhimself
Please help me!!
How do I map around that? I've seen a 100% map and the entire area around the central zone is cleared. How do I do that?
Thanks in advance!
How do I map around that? I've seen a 100% map and the entire area around the central zone is cleared. How do I do that?
Thanks in advance!
garethporlest18
Talk to the person outside the gates to it, he should let you in, the portal to it is right outside the Orchard place. Or do the mission over and when the Skree's come to attack, take a sprint skills and run up the stairs where the guards were blocking and do it that way.
Zophar
I had some spare time, so here's a full U-map of Elona. I hope it's useful to those who requested it. Again, this is of course my 100% map on my Tyrian Monk. (see several previous posts for zoomed-out maps.
(The file was too big to upload it where I usually do it and this is my first attempt at attatching a file here, so forgive me if I messed it up)
(The file was too big to upload it where I usually do it and this is my first attempt at attatching a file here, so forgive me if I messed it up)
SilentVex
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Originally Posted by Nickhimself
I've tried going in through the portal, but it's like i'm walking into FoW when I go in there...
That means you've gone far enough in the main quest that it's turned nightfallen. As gareth said, you'll have to enter the actual mission again, and when the skrees attack, run up the stairs that the guards were previously blocking.
Nickhimself
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Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Talk to the person outside the gates to it, he should let you in, the portal to it is right outside the Orchard place. Or do the mission over and when the Skree's come to attack, take a sprint skills and run up the stairs where the guards were blocking and do it that way.
I've tried going in through the portal, but it's like i'm walking into FoW when I go in there...
garethporlest18
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Originally Posted by Nickhimself
I've tried going in through the portal, but it's like i'm walking into FoW when I go in there...
Did you beat that mission yet? Jennur's Horde?
Lyssas
Hullo. Basicly I've got 0.7% left of the map (which is quite a bit in Elona :/ )
Does anyone know of any places which people tend to miss or forget about?
I've hugged the wall everywhere I've been so missing a whole 0.7 is unlikely. So a list over general missing parts would be apreciated. Thanks in beforehand.
Does anyone know of any places which people tend to miss or forget about?
I've hugged the wall everywhere I've been so missing a whole 0.7 is unlikely. So a list over general missing parts would be apreciated. Thanks in beforehand.
Thailii Monkey
Im upto 99.9% cant find anything left,
except a little bit in the fortress of jahai which i have tried but failed to get, is there a quest to go there or somthing?
also the tutorial area,
The portals around sunspear sanctuary got me about 0.3 also a few bits between areas in kourna
except a little bit in the fortress of jahai which i have tried but failed to get, is there a quest to go there or somthing?
also the tutorial area,
The portals around sunspear sanctuary got me about 0.3 also a few bits between areas in kourna
Rera
There are enough 100% maps here, so I won't post mine, but a few things I've noted from reading posts in this thread from people having problems:
- The Remains challenge mission doesn't require you to get 60 points to explore the entire area. Each time you enter the mission, the doors open in random order. It may be easier to just open one or two doors, die, and come back, since once you open one area you can concentrate on just mapping, instead of killing things to get points to open more areas.
- Note that you don't actually need most of Remains to get 100%. I had 99.x% before going into the challenge mission, and just entering the mission got me the last 0.x% I needed. I also didn't have the starting area on the newbie island, because my character is Canthan.
- Remember to EXPLORE TOWNS. A lot of towns in Elona are quite large and convoluted, and add up to a lot of %.
- The Remains challenge mission doesn't require you to get 60 points to explore the entire area. Each time you enter the mission, the doors open in random order. It may be easier to just open one or two doors, die, and come back, since once you open one area you can concentrate on just mapping, instead of killing things to get points to open more areas.
- Note that you don't actually need most of Remains to get 100%. I had 99.x% before going into the challenge mission, and just entering the mission got me the last 0.x% I needed. I also didn't have the starting area on the newbie island, because my character is Canthan.
- Remember to EXPLORE TOWNS. A lot of towns in Elona are quite large and convoluted, and add up to a lot of %.
Agrim Shamash
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Originally Posted by Rera
- Note that you don't actually need most of Remains to get 100%. I had 99.x%
For me that isn't too good a news :P I have 99.2 and explored the whole of the challenge mission.
Now i wonder, do you need to have finished the game for a full map, or is it sufficient to have reached the "Vortex"?
for that is the only thing that i can think of right now that there is something left "beyond" in the Torment.
Now i wonder, do you need to have finished the game for a full map, or is it sufficient to have reached the "Vortex"?
for that is the only thing that i can think of right now that there is something left "beyond" in the Torment.
Sir Mad
No: high-end areas (the realm of torment) don't count.
Cyclades of Knossos
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Originally Posted by Rera
There are enough 100% maps here, so I won't post mine, but a few things I've noted from reading posts in this thread from people having problems:
- The Remains challenge mission doesn't require you to get 60 points to explore the entire area. Each time you enter the mission, the doors open in random order. It may be easier to just open one or two doors, die, and come back, since once you open one area you can concentrate on just mapping, instead of killing things to get points to open more areas.
- Note that you don't actually need most of Remains to get 100%. I had 99.x% before going into the challenge mission, and just entering the mission got me the last 0.x% I needed. I also didn't have the starting area on the newbie island, because my character is Canthan.
- Remember to EXPLORE TOWNS. A lot of towns in Elona are quite large and convoluted, and add up to a lot of %. Even area 4, the lower right corner opens randomly? That's never opend for me yet.
I'll keep trying.
EDIT: You're right! Got it!
- The Remains challenge mission doesn't require you to get 60 points to explore the entire area. Each time you enter the mission, the doors open in random order. It may be easier to just open one or two doors, die, and come back, since once you open one area you can concentrate on just mapping, instead of killing things to get points to open more areas.
- Note that you don't actually need most of Remains to get 100%. I had 99.x% before going into the challenge mission, and just entering the mission got me the last 0.x% I needed. I also didn't have the starting area on the newbie island, because my character is Canthan.
- Remember to EXPLORE TOWNS. A lot of towns in Elona are quite large and convoluted, and add up to a lot of %. Even area 4, the lower right corner opens randomly? That's never opend for me yet.
I'll keep trying.
EDIT: You're right! Got it!
Caspar
At 98.7% and I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out where the 1.3% went... My guess is it is all over the place... which is not good...
Agrim Shamash
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Originally Posted by Sir Mad
No: high-end areas (the realm of torment) don't count.
Thanks. I actually used your map to do the difference method. The result with my map comes out rather "black" .. so am i not doing this right i assume.
Right now, i am giving up and calling it a night after two hours of doing the Tab key flipped comparison without finding any percentile. (i found some discrepancies but they haven't added up or revealed anything.)
Right now, i am giving up and calling it a night after two hours of doing the Tab key flipped comparison without finding any percentile. (i found some discrepancies but they haven't added up or revealed anything.)
Xenrath
Me and my new pet Hyena, celebrating the triple whammy!
It actually helped get my KOABD title (as I had 2 x Protector too) Do a little dance...
I actually got the Elonian one without the aid of any maps, was quite an enjoyable experience overall in terms of seeing the landscape and things out in the middle of nowhere. I enjoyed it more than Cantha for sure
Note, this is using my Tyrian warrior 100% there, if there's any demand for it I can stitch a map together sometime.
I got up to 98.4% just exploring and mapping all of Elona. Note: the remainder of the 1.6% came from the Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission. I do believe there may be around 1.8% in that whole challenge area, maybe even a bit more as I got grandmaster in there and still had some bits left to uncover in the same area. I did not step foot in the arena mentioned earlier in the thread.
It actually helped get my KOABD title (as I had 2 x Protector too) Do a little dance...
I actually got the Elonian one without the aid of any maps, was quite an enjoyable experience overall in terms of seeing the landscape and things out in the middle of nowhere. I enjoyed it more than Cantha for sure
Note, this is using my Tyrian warrior 100% there, if there's any demand for it I can stitch a map together sometime.
I got up to 98.4% just exploring and mapping all of Elona. Note: the remainder of the 1.6% came from the Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission. I do believe there may be around 1.8% in that whole challenge area, maybe even a bit more as I got grandmaster in there and still had some bits left to uncover in the same area. I did not step foot in the arena mentioned earlier in the thread.
Bartuc Galadwor
I just started mapping and noticed that it appears Livingston's 100% map in the first post doesn't have a Sunspear Arena mapped yet.
You can access it from Kamadan, look for the NPC near the Consulate and he will port you over. It only gives 0.1% but if your stuck at 99.9 it could be useful. =D
I post back if I notice anything else.
Edit: Nevermind lol, Ingram beat me to it.
You can access it from Kamadan, look for the NPC near the Consulate and he will port you over. It only gives 0.1% but if your stuck at 99.9 it could be useful. =D
I post back if I notice anything else.
Edit: Nevermind lol, Ingram beat me to it.
SilentVex
This is the method I used to map all of elona. I hit U, then I zoomed in. It's really very easy to tell when the unexplored area comes too close to the edge of a zone. Here's a marked up screenie of my zoomed in U map. Notice the nice consistent padding between the zone wall, and the edge of exploration. If the padding isn't there, you know you missed a spot.
Edit: And I know the sunspear arena wasn't mapped, because it didn't exist back then. I need to update it, but I'm too lazy.
Edit: And I know the sunspear arena wasn't mapped, because it didn't exist back then. I need to update it, but I'm too lazy.
Thailii Monkey
ok was at 99.9% went to help a guildie with the final mission, watched the cutscene after the endgame area. then appeared in kamandan with 100% :S
SoadLink
Sorry if this was covered, I havent read all 6 pages of this thread. Anyone know how to get a Tyrian character into the first areas of NF (Island of Shehkah)?
Here is a pic. I noticed someone else in here who posted their 100% map had this area, and they were a Tyrian. I just cant find a way to get in there:
Currently at 98.9%
This should get me about .2 if I could get around to these areas. And there are still some other chunks I am going to explore right now.
Here is a pic. I noticed someone else in here who posted their 100% map had this area, and they were a Tyrian. I just cant find a way to get in there:
Currently at 98.9%
This should get me about .2 if I could get around to these areas. And there are still some other chunks I am going to explore right now.
=HT=Ingram
Don't forget to FULLY explore ALL the Wurm Paths... This is often overlooked 
But 100% is possible without it... But sometimes it makes up a little if you can't clear something else... Like the arena fighting area for instance which over lev 10s can't go into...
Poisonous Outcrops and Dynastics Tombs are often overlooked on the wurm paths...
But 100% is possible without it... But sometimes it makes up a little if you can't clear something else... Like the arena fighting area for instance which over lev 10s can't go into...Poisonous Outcrops and Dynastics Tombs are often overlooked on the wurm paths...
NesQik
It was fun to get this title, easy and fast ^^
Sir Mad
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Originally Posted by Agrim Shamash
Thanks. I actually used your map to do the difference method. The result with my map comes out rather "black" .. so am i not doing this right i assume.
Right now, i am giving up and calling it a night after two hours of doing the Tab key flipped comparison without finding any percentile. (i found some discrepancies but they haven't added up or revealed anything.) Yeah indeed our maps are quite simillar. I noticed one difference around the Basalt Grotto but I'm not sure at all - that's maybe a cloud. You should check that. Otherwise compare the Dynastic Tombs to a 100% U map too: you may have missed something there (southern part) but it's hard to make sure with a zommed out map + JPG compression.
Right now, i am giving up and calling it a night after two hours of doing the Tab key flipped comparison without finding any percentile. (i found some discrepancies but they haven't added up or revealed anything.) Yeah indeed our maps are quite simillar. I noticed one difference around the Basalt Grotto but I'm not sure at all - that's maybe a cloud. You should check that. Otherwise compare the Dynastic Tombs to a 100% U map too: you may have missed something there (southern part) but it's hard to make sure with a zommed out map + JPG compression.
SilentVex
SoadLink: 99.2% map marked
I need 13k more for my last piece of end game armor...
I also found a couple little spots that you had and I didn't, so I'll get those and include them when I update mine.
I need 13k more for my last piece of end game armor...
I also found a couple little spots that you had and I didn't, so I'll get those and include them when I update mine.
Agrim Shamash
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Originally Posted by Sir Mad
but it's hard to make sure with a zommed out map + JPG compression.
I updated the map to a better quality JPG and also edged around the Grotto before doing this update. Can't upload a 3.5meg BMP to Imageshack
thanks for checking this for me, Sir Mad. Again any further help is apprechiated, still stuck at 99.2%
thanks for checking this for me, Sir Mad. Again any further help is apprechiated, still stuck at 99.2%
dj deviate
could we get a zoomed out bitmap file without the town icons for the zoomed out method
cheers
cheers
dj deviate
i tried doing that difference map and either i cant find anything or im doing it wrong
so could some else have a go plz im at 99.5%
cheers
so could some else have a go plz im at 99.5%
cheers
SilentVex
99.6% marked up
SoadLink
Thanks to everyone here, and especially to SilentVex! I got it!
Good luck to all those going for it!
Good luck to all those going for it!
Agrim Shamash
In the North Northwest corner of "The Sulfurous Wastes" is a Ghost by the name of "Infantryman Hareh" (just east of the N boss over a chasm).. any idea how i can get there? He even has a ! over his head that i could see.
Further, as people manage to get an U-map that encompasses the whole elonian continent:
How do you stich the parts together, is there a freeware you use, i'd like to provide my own U-Map for my search for the last missing .8%
Further, as people manage to get an U-map that encompasses the whole elonian continent:
How do you stich the parts together, is there a freeware you use, i'd like to provide my own U-Map for my search for the last missing .8%
Verkinix
Just finished Elonian GME 100%. Elona was, by far, easier then Cantha to map in full. I'm still working on tyria, but its taken a back seat to the fun of NF
Anyway, wish I had started mapping a few days earlier. I could have gotten the 10k
Anyway, wish I had started mapping a few days earlier. I could have gotten the 10k
Zophar
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Originally Posted by Zophar
That "starter area" you refer to: Is it the very first mission outpost? You can access that by talking to the NPC in the training area, south of Kamadan.
EDIT: Nevermind... I'm either blind or didn't read the latest posts... Still my point of having to quote an answer already given before stands.
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