Livingston's Guide to becoming a Grandmaster Elonian Cartographer! (No Map checks!)

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

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ok was at 99.9% went to help a guildie with the final mission, watched the cutscene after the endgame area. then appeared in kamandan with 100% :S Yes I noticed that as well: you char is somewhere when you watch cinematics, and sometimes in places where you can't go again. Many people asked how to unclear (at least partially) the little island where elonian characters start: that's actually where you are when a tyrian or canthan char watches the first cinematics of Elona when he arrives (I tested that with a fresh char). Now I wonder if you could move your char with the keyboard during the cinematics to explore more - I guess you can't but I'll try with the next char I take to Elona.

Oh and grats on the title.

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

^ I don't remember a cinmantic when my Tyrian character came over.... I just sorta appeared.

madamesabina

madamesabina

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

USA

Multum in Parvo [DVDF]

E/A

96% flat of elona.. why do i have the feeling that i didn't wallhug enough like i should have..

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

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Actually it's the same cinematic for elonian chars and tyrian/canthan chars I belive, you know: "Elona, land of the golden sun...", etc.

kyrasantae

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada

Echo of Darkness [EOD]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caspar
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Originally Posted by reniori
Does anyone know how to map the Fortress of Jahai? I've tried it from the 2 explorable areas, but no luck because it's gated off. Is there a quest or whatever else that will allow you to map that are? thanks in advance Do the Pogahn Passage mission. That's Gandara, not Jahai. And no, you can't actually get into it. It's more of a point of interest rather than an explorable location.

TomD22

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'm getting close-ish now (97.x%) but i'm also a little stuck on the Salajah challenge mission (with the infestations and maddened spirits).

I've been able to explore 2 out of the 4 parts of it, but the other 2 never seem to open for me.

So, to get all the doors open, do you have to reach a certain number of points? If so, how many?

Or, do the doors open randomly? It doesn't seem like they do, 'cos i must have tried this 15 times now without getting the ones i need open, but i guess that could be bad luck.

Oh, and if it is points...anyone got a good way to get them? I can usually kill a couple of the maddened spirits but eventually i get to the point where i just don't have enough health to kill a greater infestation before the spirit kills me, and all i can do is run. And obviously 2 at once is suicide. So. Meh. It's kinda pissing me off now.

Thx for any advice

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Any chance you can go back and do the "To Elonia" Quest in cantha if you've already done it for tyria?

Hatamoto

Hatamoto

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

PhD

W/

hmm so i have 99.9 % now, and havent beaten the game, hopefully i have blues luck , Also is it possible to get on the other side of the gate at C-O-Secrets or is that end game?

reniori

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by madamesabina
96% flat of elona.. why do i have the feeling that i didn't wallhug enough like i should have.. Attached is a quick comparison, some areas worth noting. This comparison probably won't get you to 100%. The SE Krounan was impossible to compare, due to the coulds, and so is the NW region of Desolation. I've differenced myself to 100% on 1900x1200, that was so much easier.

A quick note to OP so he can stick this to the first thread:
Take the screenshot immediately after you get into Map Travel, the clouds has a consistent pattern and the differences in clouds can be overcome by using that method.

X dragon x

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

hi all, can someone help me to get my last 0.2% please ^^
here is my 1280x1024 map

EDIT : i ve get the missed point at the jahai fortress => special thx to Sir Mad
the others one arent missed point
can any other check my map ? i am at 99.9%....

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipiousMax
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Any chance you can go back and do the "To Elonia" Quest in cantha if you've already done it for tyria? No you can't. But if you don't have this area cleared, maybe joining someone doing the quest will take you there again - I haven't tried.

The area I'm refering to is this one (map of my tyrian ranger):



This is where you are during the cinematic. Then your char is sent to the docks.

EDIT - X Dragon X: a few spots you missed: http://athelias.biz/guildwars/comp3.JPG

Disclaimer: that's the difference with my own 100% map - I presume that's places you missed, however *I* could have missed them instead. The newb island was too cloudy for a proper analyze too.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Could someone check my maps on page 8 please. No one has yet and maybe I did it wrong I don't know, but I'm at 99.4% and seriously cannot find anymore places or can't clear the places I did find because I don't know how to get to them. I know of 3 places that need clearing which will probably land me at 99.5%. So I still need help if anyone can take a look and mark some spots for me I'd really appreciate it, thanks.

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-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Bandwidth exceeded...for the zoomed out map.

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

Livingston, I get a Bandwidth Exceeded message when I try to download your maps. Is there another location (i.e. if anyone else had it and put it up somewhere) where we could get it?

EDIT: Not that it matters to me any more- grabbed a map off GWO and found the 0.3% I was missing, netting me both EGMC and KoaBD ^_^

Wilde One

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/Mo

Got mine and that gets me Kind of a big deal.



A 100% zoomed out map for thoes who need it.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...0Map/NF100.jpg

TomD22

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

98.4%.

I found 0.2% by tabbing and comparing maps myself but try as i might and wander around as i have i can't see any more.

If anyone could be so kind as to cast a second pair of eyes over this and see if anything jumps out at them....

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5946/984po9.png


Thanks


edit: o....k. imageshack has randomly decided to resize it from 1280x1024 to 600x480. Don't ask me why. I'll edit this when i find somewhere better to host it...

full sized pic: http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/587...3530159_rs.jpg

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scutilla
Livingston, I get a Bandwidth Exceeded message when I try to download your maps. Is there another location (i.e. if anyone else had it and put it up somewhere) where we could get it? That's actually my problem, and not Livingston's. I have it up temporarily here, and I'm working as fast as I can to find a new host (which is hard, because I'm already very busy). If anyone has about 20+ gigs of unused bandwidth/month and wants to host it, let me know.

Tentigers

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/N

First off, thanks for this forum, it has helped me alot...especially when comparing maps, but now im at a stop gap. Im lost and have no clue where to look. Can someone take a look at my map and maybe tell me what I missed? currently Im at 99.2%

Wilde One

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/Mo

Tom try these areas.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...0Map/gw050.jpg

TomD22

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilde One
Tom try these areas.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...0Map/gw050.jpg Will do, thanks.

dj deviate

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

i dunno if mine got missed out or if nobody could find anything so i thought i'd do a re post of my u-map just incase it was the first of the two

my u-map

cheers

ziareb

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

my first grandmaster title. had to go over everything twice as i was missing .8%.



stilll working on my other map's tyrian 95.5% cantha 91 .2 %.
thank's all to the contribution of this forum.

zia

Wilde One

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dj deviate
i dunno if mine got missed out or if nobody could find anything so i thought i'd do a re post of my u-map just incase it was the first of the two

my u-map

cheers U-maps take a lot longer to find the areas. A zoomed out map you can find some in 10-15 mins usuially. Just be patient. Livingston and Co. are top notch and will see you right.

Hatamoto

Hatamoto

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

PhD

W/

special thanks to Caspar for helping me out

Leighwyn

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
Leighwyn: I got them all but the top left one. I scraped that wall at least 10 times in both directions and can't get it. If someone gets that...tell me where you stood. I'll update when I'm done pvping tonight. Hahahha you have no idea how happy that makes me I thought I was just going crazy for a while but I guess the spot is just really tough to hit.

I had exactly what your map shows, but then I checked the map I made with my preview character and it had that spot revealed. I then spent TWO DAYS trying to reveal it, gave up once, and then finally was successful. My memory isnt the greatest and I don't remember exactly where I stood, but I do remember remarking to myself, "gee, I didn't think the spot would be so north "

I've attached where I THINK I stood, but all I know for certain is that it is north of the little temple-y area you can see on your U-map. That's initially where I thought the spot would have to be revealed from, and I tried it to death, but turns out I was incorrect!

I also added two more spots I located which I had more revealed on, so you can maybe get to those before you update.

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

One tip I've found extremely useful for scrapping together those last couple tenths of a percent:
Stretch your U map to take up the whole screen and take screenshots of all the areas on the map. Find a good 100% map using stitched-together U maps and save it to your hard drive. Open the 100% map and your first screenshot. Line up the view on the 100% map so that it shows EXACTLY the same area as your screenshot. (I find it helpful to alt-tab back and forth, keeping track of where zone portals are.)
  • Alt-tab back and forth between the two images, looking for differences. Because the two are exactly lined up with each other, the only noticeable differences will be any patches of fog that are in one but not the other, making them very easy to catch visually. Repeat for each of your screenshots.
    Took me about an hour to find and visit six locations where I was missing fog, and most of that time was spent in-game. While it may not be as fast as the Photoshop trick, it's much less prone to error.
  • LoKi Foxfire

    LoKi Foxfire

    Krytan Explorer

    Join Date: Apr 2005

    Florida

    One Corgi Army {OCA}

    R/Rt

    Could someone do a difference for me?

    http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5765/gw063bl3.jpg

    I can do a higher resolution that I normally use as well but the edges get cut off...

    Also: How do you get that spot by Nundu Bay? I can't get it to unfog! :O

    Edit: Nevermind, I got it - you have to go outside of town and go the southermost part of the rocky ledge on the beach.

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    -.-

    Banned

    Join Date: Oct 2006

    Currently at 99.7% and stuck. Here's the zoomed out picture of my map so far.

    SilentVex

    Lion's Arch Merchant

    Join Date: Nov 2005

    Maguuma Stade

    Sorry it's takin' me so long guys. Between school, pvp, and then this bandwidth issue today, I've been hella busy. I'll look at some of your maps tonight.

    Edit: Oh, and that bandwidth issue should be resolved. The link in the OP should work again.

    Cyclades of Knossos

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Oct 2006

    UK

    SNOW (GoW)

    W/

    Woo-hoo! I finally made it



    Thanks guys!

    I'm now Kind of a Big Deal

    -.-

    -.-

    Banned

    Join Date: Oct 2006

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SilentVex
    Oh, and that bandwidth issue should be resolved. The link in the OP should work again. Yup, it works. I would really appreciate it if you can point out where I"m missing the last .3% I need for Grandmaster Cartographer.

    SilentVex

    Lion's Arch Merchant

    Join Date: Nov 2005

    Maguuma Stade

    dv8's marked u map
    gareth's marked u map

    and -.-, I'm no good at analyzing the difference maps from the zoomed out images. It just looks like a bunch of dark stuff to me. :P

    Nickhimself

    Krytan Explorer

    Join Date: Jun 2006

    Your face

    True Gods Of War [True]

    W/Mo

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...er976/umap.jpg

    There's my U Map @ 1,000,000 x 1,000,000 (not really)

    Please help me out, i'm at 99.7% and i'm going crazy.

    I see a couple spots that I should be able to get, but when I go out there, I can't...no matter what I do. I've stood in place for like 5 minutes at the location closest to some of these spots, and nothing happens...still.

    SilentVex

    Lion's Arch Merchant

    Join Date: Nov 2005

    Maguuma Stade

    Photobucket must've resized it to 1024 or something. Try attaching it to your post.

    garethporlest18

    garethporlest18

    Forge Runner

    Join Date: Jan 2006

    [HiDe]

    W/

    Thanks so much Silent, I'll get on exploring them as soon as possible, two questions though. How do you get that area by Bone Palace and Fortress of Jahai?

    Cebe

    Cebe

    The 5th Celestial Boss

    Join Date: Jul 2006

    Inverness, Scotland

    The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

    E/

    Just made it to 95% last night...I still have the Dynastic Tombs to do and some classic "Barrel Scraping" also. My question is this. Are the Dynastic Tombs only accessible as part of the challenge mission or is there another way to get in there? Once I'm in (since I stuck my head around the corner last night) what on earth am I supposed to do? All i found were a load of locked doors...and a nasty overpowered lvl 8! And I thought Wavecrest Stonebreak was bad.

    Nickhimself

    Krytan Explorer

    Join Date: Jun 2006

    Your face

    True Gods Of War [True]

    W/Mo

    okay, hopefully that worked

    CorstedPirate

    Lion's Arch Merchant

    Join Date: Jan 2006

    Knights of the Void

    Mo/

    So many people have the title already. I only just got to 78% today, hehe. The last mission I did was Tihark (something). My guildies think I'm rushing too, it is quite amusing. Glad there are maps up already. Perhaps they will be more complete by the time I need them.

    I am at 98.1% of Tyria, but the rest will have to wait till I am done with Nightfall. Or at least completed the missions.

    garethporlest18

    garethporlest18

    Forge Runner

    Join Date: Jan 2006

    [HiDe]

    W/

    Well I uncovered about 9 of those places you marked with only .2% to show. So I'm not gonna be hitting 100%.

    Well I found 3 spots you missed right by Kodash so, that'll help out.

    Hengis

    Hengis

    Wilds Pathfinder

    Join Date: Apr 2006

    London

    Better Than Life (BTL)

    R/

    I got the Grandmaster Cartographer title last night without having to back track and redo any areas and without having to look at any maps for help :-))

    Overall I dont think this map was too difficult. I wall hugged every area and every town the first time I entered it and reached 98.6% by the time I got to the Vortex. The final 1.4% was all in the challenge mission that I had not done at all.

    I am very impressed with how fast some of you got this title though!

    This gives me 3 x Grandmaster Cartographer which along with my Protector of Tyria and Protector of Cantha gives me Kind of a Big Deal :-))

    I also have 15 out of 15 masters in Elona so far, so my next challenge is Protector of Elona.

    I much prefered this map to Cantha. There is some stunning scenery to be found out there, and some great places hidden away in difficult to get to parts of the map.