What title impresses you the most?

Monkey Blonde

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Siege Turtles (ST)

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff Mon
But seriously, I used to be impressed with the Protector Title, it seems like everyone has it. I have never seen anyone with "Kind of A Big Deal" title yet, and only once have a seen a "Legendary Survivor". I think the rarity of the title seems to be a big part of it getting respect.
Here's a pic for ya. Now you have seen one. :P Anyways, I probably respect the Champion and Allegiance tracks the most. As for Legendary Survivor, it is unfortunate that people can find such easy ways to attain this, causing people to be skeptical of all. I earned my ele's title through careful gameplay. I am currently working on a warrior Legendary Survivor-to-be. I took advantage of the elite skill capping weekend to grab about 35 elites. I plan to get a significant part of my eventual mapping title done before maxing the title as well as many more elites to be capped. When I get the title the second time, it will be blatently obvious that I was not powerleveled, run, babysat, whatever.

Inzilbeth

Inzilbeth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, Canada

Tomahn Tso D'ni

N/Me

Grandmaster treasure hunter title for me - I admire the sheer tenacity or complete lunacy needed for running the 10,000 chests required

Caspar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Rank 3 Suvivor Title wasn't that hard to get due to this weekend's event. I managed to pull it off by capping 95 skills... at which point I ran out of gold for the Signets. So now I have the rank 1 Skill Hunter and Rank 3 Survivor Time to work on the other titles.

Yemen

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

Mo/

Like someone said, most of survivors are just a farmers, most of them don't even farm by themselves, just hang on with someone getting xp for them. Go farm, quit if you are going to die and start again. Nothing to do with skill imo.

I'd say all pvp titles are more about skill. Most impressive title for me is Champion title, but I also like high HA ranks.

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

grandmaster chest farmer - 10000 chests! I got hella bored after the 3rd rank, which is 550 chests.

wisdom titles. almost everybody who reached the max title have bought it, but I'm about to reach the 1st title with regular play. Takes a long time, way longer than you might think.

grandmaster cartographer. Just hugging walls? I think most of the grandmasters have been comparing their maps with the ones online carefully - not an easy task!

skill hunter. requires lots of patience

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Protector of Cantha/Tyria are the only titles that don't require grind. I'd have to go with those.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

The Gladiator Title does NOT impress me, as there used to be a bug, which made victories against the Zaishen elite (or the zaishen challenge, can't remember) count as victories in RA, making them count as glad points if you won 10 in a row.

Having both Protector titles impresses me the most, as it shows you have some skill. Or a lot of money.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paperfly
The single biggest alarm bell, though, comes from the Protector of [the continent you're currently playing] in mission areas. You know for a fact that this guy's already finished the mission, so why is he there? There's four possible reasons, only one of which involves him playing properly with your group if he joins: helping a guildmate (good - and you can easily check this by looking at guild tags), mapping (bad), chest runs (plusbad), and skill capping (doubleplusbad).
I don't agree.
I have protectors on all Tyrian chars and still play the missions.
I just like to help out pugs (my guild is small, most of the time I'm the only member online).
I've had help from others, so why not help some people myself?
Chests, mapping and skills are easier with hench.
No people complaining, afk, rushing, dc-ing.

I specially help out on the high-end missions (Southern Shiverpeak and Fire islands).
Gives me some challenge and the possibility to run some unusual builds (which I mention when entering team).
And is more fun than solo-ing the missions or farming.
I also still make enough money on those missions to buy some nice stuff, though I could buy them faster when farming.

When I have protectors in Factions, I probably do the same (though the missions are less fun imho).
Experience can make the difference between success and failure.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Survivor (3) is probably the least respected title out there, because it means (a) you did a ton of riskless farming to get it or (b) you joined PuGs and went AFK or ran like a screaming baby whenever any sort of group was aggroed to yoru party.

Personally, I like the Drunkard titles the most. Grandmaster Cartographers are also pretty sweet, as you can really tell that they've experienced almost every ounce of PvE there is to experience.

The only thing about the Protector of Tyria and Cantha titles that irk me are that they are simply too easy to get - I bet I could get both of them in less than a week's time by joining PuGs.

Blame the Monks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Just as an FYI for everyone who thinks Survivor3 comes from trolls/f12... I've never met a single survivor who reguarly ditched or who solo farmed in any way -- ditching is too risky and farming takes too long.

Farming trolls or w/e costs so much money and time it wouldn't be worth it. Virtually every survivor3 is aiming for KoaBD which means they will also be getting dual protectors and at least one explorer at the same time. It took me ~100 hours to reach survivor 3 just in terms of earning the exp. I had to spend that time doing something, so why not cap elites, do missions/quests, and explore? Finally, the best experience engine is by FAR capping elites. This is why every survivor3 I know also has at least 100+ skill caps on that char. Some other survivors try to farm UW quests, which again shows they played carefully.

Finally, as for ditching -- it just won't work consistently enough to hit Survivor3. You may be able to ditch and survive a few times, but eventually it will catch up to you. I know several people who tried ditching their way to Survivor3 and failed because of lag or a death after they think they exited. None of them even managed to ditch their way past survivor 1. The only reliable way is to play smart enough to never be at risk -- which takes skill. (Also too every survivor I know plays with henches 90%+ of the time because henches don't leroy, quit, and so on).

And for me, champion is worthless. It simply tells me you were a member of one of the top ~75 guilds or so, which I can easily see from your guild tag. While not a "title" per se, silver trim impresses me a lot more than champ, because they say effectively the same thing except silver trim shows they were on a top 16 team while champ could mean they simply joined a rank 150 thumpway pug.

Tark Alkerk

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

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to be honest i am not immpressed by any of the titles really,
i used to be immpressed by champian title, but after the bug with signet of might i am not sure that is even worth getting.
to be honest having a title doesn't really show skill. i have beaten rank 9s and rank 5 gladitors in the past, and it is hard to argue that survivor shows that you have skill, after all you are just out-wiiting a computer that attacks through SS, hits targets that have SV on them and attack people using vengeful was kanei.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

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The highest lvl seeker of wisdom and treasure hunter because it shows how much people are willing to play this game

kc2000ss

kc2000ss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

3rd rock from sun out of eight?

W/N

Ale Hound
I have only seen 1 or 2

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Champ, glad, hero titles are impressive at high ranks. Champ is only one imo impressive at r1

r3 survivor is impressive. Even if you payed for it, ragequitted, farmed, whatever. Shows grind.

Basically anything at max is impressive because of the amount of time required for them to be achieved. KoBD is also obviously impressive.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blame the Monks
Farming trolls or w/e costs so much money and time it wouldn't be worth it.
How does farming trolls cost money if you're not opening chests? It seems like the drops MORE than pay for the XP scrolls.

Doing everything else while achieving Survivor(3) is very, very risky - especially getting the Protector titles. The chance of you dying while doing some of the later mission bonuses is way too high, and even attempting some of the later missions themselves is subject to an extreme amount of risk (e.g. like Unwaking Waters, where one hit for Kuunavang will kill you).

I tend to disagree - many of my friends who have either achieved or have tried to get Survivor(3) did so by doing the lowest risk items possible. Farming was #1 on that list.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

Survivor: Which I've only seen once ingame so far
Protector: I look back and realize some bonuses are bloody impossible unless you have a good guild/PuG
Drunkard: I was once drunk for half an hour (this was before titles were implemented). It was fun but hurt my budget, especially since I'm lower-middle-class in terms of GW money.
Skill Hunter: Okay, 90 elite skills?! Would have to do some serious profession swapping for that.

Kind of a Big Deal: Because you'd have to accomplish several of the impressing titles above.

Blame the Monks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
I tend to disagree - many of my friends who have either achieved or have tried to get Survivor(3) did so by doing the lowest risk items possible. Farming was #1 on that list.
Based on the comments by other survivors in this thread and my own experience, I would say your friends are on the pussyish side of the survivor bell curve Its certainly not necessary and I believe your friend's method is very much the exception to the rule.

And if you know you are fighting a boss who reguarly does 300+ hits, where is your prot spirit? If you know it is coming, its your own fault not to prepare for it. PvE is just not very dangerous to an experienced player. For the cost, I was thinking of having to hire someone to farm for you (shows how much I know about farming, I suppose -- zilch). Running outside and soloing trolls could be done safely I suppose, but why would someone do that when other methods are so much faster and help you reach other goals every potential survivor plans on reaching?

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blame the Monks
And if you know you are fighting a boss who reguarly does 300+ hits, where is your prot spirit? If you know it is coming, its your own fault not to prepare for it. PvE is just not very dangerous to an experienced player.
I guess you're assuming that most people that strive for the Survivor (3) title either are primary monks or have a monk secondary to keep protective spirit up (which is a major generalization). Even protective spirit won't save you from enemies that can enchantment strip, which most of the missions/bonuses towards the end of both campaigns are full of.

By the way, it's not cowardice for people to find the safest way to achieve a title - it's a risk/reward proposition. I would surmise that most people that have already achieved 700K+ of experience towards a title aren't going to risk that progress fighting Glint or Kuunavang.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blame the Monks
Based on the comments by other survivors in this thread and my own experience, I would say your friends are on the pussyish side of the survivor bell curve Its certainly not necessary and I believe your friend's method is very much the exception to the rule.
Please reread all of the responses on the thread again, and I'll bet that you'll only count 2 or 3 people that claim that they earned it "the hard way". I highly doubt that 2 or 3 people represent a majority of GW players.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Here's a rank of titles from most impressive (top) to least (bottom), IMO:

1. Champion
2. Hero
3. Survivor - Tried for this one and I admire the perseverence of people who actually start over a character after failing.
4. Gladiator
5. KoaBD - This is just 2x protector and 2x cartographer + most often drunkard (2) or survivor (3). First two aren't that impressive and if I had survivor (3) (and didn't have hero (9) >.>), i'd be showing that over KoaBD
6. Skill Hunter - Requires exploring all of the hard areas and actually cleaning them, not just running through.
8. Cartographer - I mean 100% cartographer, especially on a class that can't easily run. 60's and 80's aren't worth anything.
9. Drunkard - This is just as crappy as luck titles, except for the novelty of it...
10. Protector - Everyone and their mother has one. There are only about 5 challenging missions between the two campaigns anyway.
11. Faction - Yayfarm
12. Wisdom/Treasure - Same as above
13. Lucky/Unlucky - Yaycrappymoneysink

Blame the Monks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
I guess you're assuming that most people that strive for the Survivor (3) title either are primary monks or have a monk secondary to keep protective spirit up (which is a major generalization).
Everyone can change secondary, and why wouldn't you if you know the primary threat is a single major hit? And while its true that your paper counters my rock, with a bit of sense and some scissors secondary skills I can and did manage. I speak from personal experience here -- pve is just not difficult unless you do something dumb.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
I highly doubt that 2 or 3 people represent a majority of GW players.
More representative than a secondhand account of what your friends say they did, surely. I don't recall anyone who actually earned the title saying the best way is to farm trolls and/or ditch. In fact, it seems of those who have the title it is the opposite. The responses in this thread are something like this:

Poster without survivor: Survivor sucks because people just farm to get it.
Poster without survivor2: Ya its true damn ditchers.
Poster WITH survivor: Actually we get it from capping skills and not being dumb.
Poster WITH survivor2: Ya I capped all 180 skills exp to get it.
Poster WITH survivor3: So did I; double cap weekend ftw!

***EDIT***

Here are some of the actual posts, including every person who commented they had survivor 3:

Quote:
Survival title pfft, i'm guessing 9 out of 10 get leveled, get run through missions, or are mission quiters.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey
9/10, try 3/10, some of us actually really try to get that title, I went through every mission to get that title, and it was pretty dang hard. You need to also take into account that getting lvled to 20 at droks is impossible without dying, due to the fact that you die on the droks run, at Dreadnaught's Drift.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caspar
The Rank 3 Suvivor Title wasn't that hard to get due to this weekend's event. I managed to pull it off by capping 95 skills... at which point I ran out of gold for the Signets. So now I have the rank 1 Skill Hunter and Rank 3 Survivor Time to work on the other titles.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kade
I earned it.
(Context of post shows he meant earned as opposed to powerleveled).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkey Blonde
As for Legendary Survivor, it is unfortunate that people can find such easy ways to attain this, causing people to be skeptical of all. I earned my ele's title through careful gameplay. I am currently working on a warrior Legendary Survivor-to-be. I took advantage of the elite skill capping weekend to grab about 35 elites. I plan to get a significant part of my eventual mapping title done before maxing the title as well as many more elites to be capped.
And in case I haven't said it before -- I earned survivor 3 by capping ~100 elites, earning 100% explore cantha, and completing all missions, bonuses, and quests in the game. The great majority was only hench, altho on occasion I would get a guild group. And FYI, I henched two of the titan quests, gayla hatchery, unwaking, and eternal grove so I know its possible

/edit

But in any event, I will stop trying to beat a dead horse here as I don't want to derail the thread. The whole ditcher/farmer mantra the survivor-haters on guru have just doesn't reflect reality, but meh.

Mr.H.Mishima

Mr.H.Mishima

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Summit of Human Evolution

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Grandmaster Cartographers are also pretty sweet, as you can really tell that they've experienced almost every ounce of PvE there is to experience.

The only thing about the Protector of Tyria and Cantha titles that irk me are that they are simply too easy to get - I bet I could get both of them in less than a week's time by joining PuGs.
Grandmaster Tyria is a real pain. The amout of time it took me to go from 95% to 100% was about 3 weeks. It's boring, you can't run - as the step my not register with the server, and you need to bring hench in the high level areas...ever fight through Snake Dance, Dreadnaughts' Drift and Lornar's Path with hench? Know how long that takes? You gotta clear EVERYTHING out to be able to map.

Heh...if you think you can get PuG's to do that...go for it I bet it's a lot harder than you think with PuG's. I did Tyria with hench (except Arborstone and THK). Still working on Cantha. If you want to give either a try, look me up.

Mr_eX

Mr_eX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ice Tooth Cave

Opt and Niho Private Chat [lulz]

N/Me

Definitely have to go with Master/Grandmaster Cartographer, Champion, and Skill Hunter. To a lesser extent the Protector titles. KoaBD/PKM obviously go without saying.

All of the other title tracks can be bought or otherwise BSed. They're still great achievements, and good for you if you earned the title yourself, but you're not gonna get a second look from me.

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blame the Monks
Everyone can change secondary, and why wouldn't you if you know the primary threat is a single major hit? And while its true that your paper counters my rock, with a bit of sense and some scissors secondary skills I can and did manage. I speak from personal experience here -- pve is just not difficult unless you do something dumb.
That is a pretty broad statement to cover the entire PvE game, I agree most of the time
you have the upper hand in fights, but go try to do all the SF quests with all henchies
and see if that statement still applies or try going with less than a full group for more
of a challenge.

On the OP's topic, I would say I respect the almost all of the titles except the Survivor
title, I have witnessed how most ppl have gotten this title and it makes me very mad,
titles to me just say what part of the game you are playing alot.

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rank 13 (imk r6)

nugzta

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Please reread all of the responses on the thread again, and I'll bet that you'll only count 2 or 3 people that claim that they earned it "the hard way". I highly doubt that 2 or 3 people represent a majority of GW players.
And you know the majority survivors are farmers? Because "many" of your friends are surviving farmers but that doesnt they represent the majority of survivors.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
By the way, it's not cowardice for people to find the safest way to achieve a title - it's a risk/reward proposition. I would surmise that most people that have already achieved 700K+ of experience towards a title aren't going to risk that progress fighting Glint or Kuunavang.


I didnt pull out my experience number in the screen but it was around 500k EXP (after done some capping and canthan quests) and these guys are PUGs. If your friends cant do it the proper way why would they be getting it? Titles are meant for people who have done everything and got nothing else to do. You dont really need titles, it is there to challenge you. I failed survivor 3 times (twice because of vizunah death bug and 1 lag spike) with one survivor failed at 1.2mill EXP, it didnt stop me on getting it. Luckily this elite cap event helped me alot and finally I got my Legendary Survivor.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blame the Monks
I don't recall anyone who actually earned the title saying the best way is to farm trolls and/or ditch. In fact, it seems of those who have the title it is the opposite.

But in any event, I will stop trying to beat a dead horse here as I don't want to derail the thread. The whole ditcher/farmer mantra the survivor-haters on guru have just doesn't reflect reality, but meh.
Why on earth would anyone post in here stating that they were PROUD of gaining their Survivor (3) title by farming? Surmizing that most survivor (3)'s took the risk by gaining the Protector titles via 2-3 personalized accounts is a bit suspect, to say the least.

For those of you that obtained survivor (3) by playing the main storylines, I absolutely applaud your efforts - that is an incredibly difficult feat (especially for the poster that mentioned that he was at 1.2 million when he died)! Unfortunately, I think the overall title has a negative downcast on it, reflecting poorly on those that truly earned it via playing the game versus power leveling/farming.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzta
If your friends cant do it the proper way why would they be getting it?
Pursuing the KoaBD title.

JoeKnowMo

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

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I bow down to silver/gold trim although it's not a title. That is the only one I'm not suspicious of and can say I geniunely respect. Yes, I'm aware of smurfing and other such stuff, but in the end you gotta play against other top players.

Champion, gladiator, hero depending on how it was earned i guess as it should denote some level of skill. I'm a little suspicious of some of these as are many others for obvious reasons. Also, I've played against or with some of them in AB and FA and have many times not been impressed by skill or build creativity. I really don't think the other titles are impressive as the amount of skill involved is minimal. Having said that, I have earned some of them as they are fun to try for.

Survivor, meh. I saw about 10 ppl get legendary survivor thru faction farming. I've had quite a few ppl with survivor titles leave the group when the going gets bad. Many have earned it with hench cuz hench won't get upset if/when u pussyquit. It seems difficult, but if you always take prot spirit and other defensive/self-heal skills and go for the F12 button when you get < 25% HP, you're guaranteed to get it.

Faction titles means you faction farm a lot, which gets boring fast.
Cratographer sounds great but it's extremely tedious to get.
Wisdom/Treasure Hunter are ok, but chest farming and then IDing stuff over and over loses it's charm fast.
Drunkard is the best sounding title, but isn't as fun as getting the title irl.
Lucky/Unlucky got boring quickly.

Skill hunter is the one PvE title that I have some respect for esp. since it doesn't involve boredom. However, it involves capping elites that your char will probably never use. And since I have these elites capped on other, more appropriate chars, or unlocked thru Balth faction, I can't see the point of doing it other than for the title.

I was really excited about titles when they first came out, but quickly soured on most them. Not sure that there's any solution though.

I hope my heroes don't try for the survivor titles. I'm going to be uspet if they quit everytime the going gets bad :P

elLOCOmutha

elLOCOmutha

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Ascalon City, Tyria

Free Agent

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I don't get impressed by anything in a pc game. OOOO loook he has a crystalline sword OOooo look he has mapped out 100% of tyria!

Although my paycheck does impress me..alot!

Ferrous Capuchin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Piranha

Me/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paperfly
The single biggest alarm bell, though, comes from the Protector of [the continent you're currently playing] in mission areas. You know for a fact that this guy's already finished the mission, so why is he there? There's four possible reasons, only one of which involves him playing properly with your group if he joins: helping a guildmate (good - and you can easily check this by looking at guild tags), mapping (bad), chest runs (plusbad), and skill capping (doubleplusbad).
Nah, some of us actually play this game for fun, believe it or not.

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

Grandmaster Cartographer, Skill Hunter, and Protector.

EDIT:

Soon Sunspear Legend.

Gigashadow

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

W/

Even titles which aren't that hard to get, mean something, if only that the player has put X hours into the game (and thus would know more than someone who has put 0 hours into the game).

For example, let's say a Rank 1 gladiator (not hard to get, especially if you farm RA as a monk) vs someone with no title. No guarantee whatsoever that either is any good, but in the gladiator case you know that the player has at least invested X hours in the game, while the other played may or may not have. Basically you're choosing between someone about whom you have some information, and someone about whom you have zero information. This is true for most titles actually.

Gigashadow

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tark Alkerk
to be honest i am not immpressed by any of the titles really,
i have beaten rank 9s and rank 5 gladitors in the past
What does that mean? You mean in a duel? GW is not about duels.

Did you maybe mean some team of people you were on, beat some other team of people that had someone with one of those titles in it? That makes it all their fault and them a poor player?

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

the invisible one I have: Really A Crap n00b.

The Drunkard titles are my favs. The Sunspear titles are a close second. I wonder what title you'll have to get in order for it to show in the actual game. Sunspear Commander?

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

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After burning through a few characters getting it, I respect Survivor(3). It's a shame that some people have themselves power-leveled for it.

For those who don't, they first have to learn what can kill them. Easy? Maybe, but they only have to be wrong once. Took me the loss of a survivor(2) that had done everything through Thunderhead to learn the proper respect for Canthan bosses.

They have to be on the ball every second they're playing. This is what makes it fun for me, but one instance of "stayed up to late" and it's all over. *fails to mention unfortunate run-in with a dwarven catapult*

They have to be a bit of a gambler if they do any solo killing. All it takes is a 10 second lag spike to kill them off. Lost a million XP character this way - she'd cleared cantha all the way to unwaking waters from both directions and was trying to get into easy skill-cap range of the title.

I'll continue to assume that any Legendary Survivors got their titles the hard way.

cry of the rapture

cry of the rapture

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Kiting a shock axe

guildless again....

Mo/Me

champion titles for the win. You can't really "grind" to get a champion title ; it's all skill

Ork Pride

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Grandmaster Treasure hunter, because 10,000 keys means the person is rich.

elleray

elleray

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

A/

To be honest, the drunkard titles shock me. When i see someone with it, and know that theyve sat there for hours, refilling on ale every minute, is amazing. However, i guess you could just make a macro to keep clicking of the beer, but thats a different story.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

As regards PvP: Champion(by quite a great stretch) > Hero > Gladiator > Allegiance Title.

In PvE, I suppose Skill Hunter would be the title thats holds the most weight in my estimation.