What title impresses you the most?

Everyone can change secondary, and why wouldn't you if you know the primary threat is a single major hit? And while its true that your paper counters my rock, with a bit of sense and some scissors secondary skills I can and did manage. I speak from personal experience here -- pve is just not difficult unless you do something dumb.

More representative than a secondhand account of what your friends say they did, surely. I don't recall anyone who actually earned the title saying the best way is to farm trolls and/or ditch. In fact, it seems of those who have the title it is the opposite. The responses in this thread are something like this:

Poster without survivor: Survivor sucks because people just farm to get it.
Poster without survivor2: Ya its true damn ditchers.
Poster WITH survivor: Actually we get it from capping skills and not being dumb.
Poster WITH survivor2: Ya I capped all 180 skills exp to get it.
Poster WITH survivor3: So did I; double cap weekend ftw!

***EDIT***

Here are some of the actual posts, including every person who commented they had survivor 3:

(Context of post shows he meant earned as opposed to powerleveled).And in case I haven't said it before -- I earned survivor 3 by capping ~100 elites, earning 100% explore cantha, and completing all missions, bonuses, and quests in the game. The great majority was only hench, altho on occasion I would get a guild group. And FYI, I henched two of the titan quests, gayla hatchery, unwaking, and eternal grove so I know its possible

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But in any event, I will stop trying to beat a dead horse here as I don't want to derail the thread. The whole ditcher/farmer mantra the survivor-haters on guru have just doesn't reflect reality, but meh.

Grandmaster Tyria is a real pain. The amout of time it took me to go from 95% to 100% was about 3 weeks. It's boring, you can't run - as the step my not register with the server, and you need to bring hench in the high level areas...ever fight through Snake Dance, Dreadnaughts' Drift and Lornar's Path with hench? Know how long that takes? You gotta clear EVERYTHING out to be able to map.

Heh...if you think you can get PuG's to do that...go for it I bet it's a lot harder than you think with PuG's. I did Tyria with hench (except Arborstone and THK). Still working on Cantha. If you want to give either a try, look me up.

Definitely have to go with Master/Grandmaster Cartographer, Champion, and Skill Hunter. To a lesser extent the Protector titles. KoaBD/PKM obviously go without saying.

All of the other title tracks can be bought or otherwise BSed. They're still great achievements, and good for you if you earned the title yourself, but you're not gonna get a second look from me.

That is a pretty broad statement to cover the entire PvE game, I agree most of the time
you have the upper hand in fights, but go try to do all the SF quests with all henchies
and see if that statement still applies or try going with less than a full group for more
of a challenge.

On the OP's topic, I would say I respect the almost all of the titles except the Survivor
title, I have witnessed how most ppl have gotten this title and it makes me very mad,
titles to me just say what part of the game you are playing alot.

Rank 13 (imk r6)

And you know the majority survivors are farmers? Because "many" of your friends are surviving farmers but that doesnt they represent the majority of survivors.



I didnt pull out my experience number in the screen but it was around 500k EXP (after done some capping and canthan quests) and these guys are PUGs. If your friends cant do it the proper way why would they be getting it? Titles are meant for people who have done everything and got nothing else to do. You dont really need titles, it is there to challenge you. I failed survivor 3 times (twice because of vizunah death bug and 1 lag spike) with one survivor failed at 1.2mill EXP, it didnt stop me on getting it. Luckily this elite cap event helped me alot and finally I got my Legendary Survivor.

Why on earth would anyone post in here stating that they were PROUD of gaining their Survivor (3) title by farming? Surmizing that most survivor (3)'s took the risk by gaining the Protector titles via 2-3 personalized accounts is a bit suspect, to say the least.

For those of you that obtained survivor (3) by playing the main storylines, I absolutely applaud your efforts - that is an incredibly difficult feat (especially for the poster that mentioned that he was at 1.2 million when he died)! Unfortunately, I think the overall title has a negative downcast on it, reflecting poorly on those that truly earned it via playing the game versus power leveling/farming.

Pursuing the KoaBD title.

I bow down to silver/gold trim although it's not a title. That is the only one I'm not suspicious of and can say I geniunely respect. Yes, I'm aware of smurfing and other such stuff, but in the end you gotta play against other top players.

Champion, gladiator, hero depending on how it was earned i guess as it should denote some level of skill. I'm a little suspicious of some of these as are many others for obvious reasons. Also, I've played against or with some of them in AB and FA and have many times not been impressed by skill or build creativity. I really don't think the other titles are impressive as the amount of skill involved is minimal. Having said that, I have earned some of them as they are fun to try for.

Survivor, meh. I saw about 10 ppl get legendary survivor thru faction farming. I've had quite a few ppl with survivor titles leave the group when the going gets bad. Many have earned it with hench cuz hench won't get upset if/when u pussyquit. It seems difficult, but if you always take prot spirit and other defensive/self-heal skills and go for the F12 button when you get < 25% HP, you're guaranteed to get it.

Faction titles means you faction farm a lot, which gets boring fast.
Cratographer sounds great but it's extremely tedious to get.
Wisdom/Treasure Hunter are ok, but chest farming and then IDing stuff over and over loses it's charm fast.
Drunkard is the best sounding title, but isn't as fun as getting the title irl.
Lucky/Unlucky got boring quickly.

Skill hunter is the one PvE title that I have some respect for esp. since it doesn't involve boredom. However, it involves capping elites that your char will probably never use. And since I have these elites capped on other, more appropriate chars, or unlocked thru Balth faction, I can't see the point of doing it other than for the title.

I was really excited about titles when they first came out, but quickly soured on most them. Not sure that there's any solution though.

I hope my heroes don't try for the survivor titles. I'm going to be uspet if they quit everytime the going gets bad :P

I don't get impressed by anything in a pc game. OOOO loook he has a crystalline sword OOooo look he has mapped out 100% of tyria!

Although my paycheck does impress me..alot!

Nah, some of us actually play this game for fun, believe it or not.

Grandmaster Cartographer, Skill Hunter, and Protector.

EDIT:

Soon Sunspear Legend.

Even titles which aren't that hard to get, mean something, if only that the player has put X hours into the game (and thus would know more than someone who has put 0 hours into the game).

For example, let's say a Rank 1 gladiator (not hard to get, especially if you farm RA as a monk) vs someone with no title. No guarantee whatsoever that either is any good, but in the gladiator case you know that the player has at least invested X hours in the game, while the other played may or may not have. Basically you're choosing between someone about whom you have some information, and someone about whom you have zero information. This is true for most titles actually.

What does that mean? You mean in a duel? GW is not about duels.

Did you maybe mean some team of people you were on, beat some other team of people that had someone with one of those titles in it? That makes it all their fault and them a poor player?

the invisible one I have: Really A Crap n00b.

The Drunkard titles are my favs. The Sunspear titles are a close second. I wonder what title you'll have to get in order for it to show in the actual game. Sunspear Commander?

After burning through a few characters getting it, I respect Survivor(3). It's a shame that some people have themselves power-leveled for it.

For those who don't, they first have to learn what can kill them. Easy? Maybe, but they only have to be wrong once. Took me the loss of a survivor(2) that had done everything through Thunderhead to learn the proper respect for Canthan bosses.

They have to be on the ball every second they're playing. This is what makes it fun for me, but one instance of "stayed up to late" and it's all over. *fails to mention unfortunate run-in with a dwarven catapult*

They have to be a bit of a gambler if they do any solo killing. All it takes is a 10 second lag spike to kill them off. Lost a million XP character this way - she'd cleared cantha all the way to unwaking waters from both directions and was trying to get into easy skill-cap range of the title.

I'll continue to assume that any Legendary Survivors got their titles the hard way.

champion titles for the win. You can't really "grind" to get a champion title ; it's all skill

Grandmaster Treasure hunter, because 10,000 keys means the person is rich.

To be honest, the drunkard titles shock me. When i see someone with it, and know that theyve sat there for hours, refilling on ale every minute, is amazing. However, i guess you could just make a macro to keep clicking of the beer, but thats a different story.

As regards PvP: Champion(by quite a great stretch) > Hero > Gladiator > Allegiance Title.

In PvE, I suppose Skill Hunter would be the title thats holds the most weight in my estimation.