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Clawdius_Talonious

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

24 Oct 2006 at 18:55 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henchman

Although DVD's have been out for some time now, since they are not stated as a requirement, the OP has all the right to complain about it.

They aren't required, simply download the content with the "internet connection" refered to with the requirements.

The collectors editions minimum requirements should be changed to fit the fact that it is on DVD.

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

24 Oct 2006 at 18:56 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henchman

While DVD drives have been out for quite a while, it is the responsibility of the publisher to state the requirements needed to install the game:

From the official Guild Wars Site:
http://www.guildwars.com/support/faq...aq.php#support

Although DVD's have been out for some time now, since they are not stated as a requirement, the OP has all the right to complain about it.

If he had that quoted system, he could use the internet connection to install. No need for the cd drive at all.

Clawdius_Talonious

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

24 Oct 2006 at 18:58 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fates Monk

If he had that quoted system, he could use the internet connection to install. No need for the cd drive at all.

Echo! Echo, echo, echo...

Guinevere Ac

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Milano

24 Oct 2006 at 19:14 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henchman

While DVD drives have been out for quite a while, it is the responsibility of the publisher to state the requirements needed to install the game:

From the official Guild Wars Site:
http://www.guildwars.com/support/faq...aq.php#support

Although DVD's have been out for some time now, since they are not stated as a requirement, the OP has all the right to complain about it.

those are requirements for nightfall standard edition. the c.e. box cleary says dvd drive

Clawdius_Talonious

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Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

24 Oct 2006 at 19:19 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinevere Ac

those are requirements for nightfall standard edition. the c.e. box cleary says dvd drive

Yep, but companies like Gamestop need to alter their listed requirements...

Hollerith

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

24 Oct 2006 at 19:21 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by morimoto

it is important to note that this is not just something to complain about.

it is not about the fact that we can download the client.

the point is that we as consumers should not have to do this. we should not have to work around a product that we paid for with our hard earned money.

we as consumers have rights that large coorporations are taking advantage of. in a world that has several different types of media that a product can be released on, the maufacturer needs to cater to the needs of its consumers.

it is unfortunate that these corporations dont listen and are only concerned with money. the only way to make them change their ways is to be vocal about our concerns. to demand equal treatment for all consumers. not just the ones with DVD drives.

many will find my views rigid and maybe a bit silly. but the fact remains...if you let corporations take just a little of your rights away, they will take all of them away.

The market is driven by consumers. DVD's are ubiquitous because the consumer has chosen it as a preferred medium. Valve's survey says 91.83% of their customers have a DVD-ROM drive. The only entity forcing you to upgrade is us.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

24 Oct 2006 at 19:22 - 47

if you have GW already you have Nightfall installed already except for the final updates.

from interview with JEFF STRAIN

Quote:

JS: Let me give you an anecdote of the technological aspect of the game that people don’t really realize. You know, we ship Factions on the 28th (Today), but what people don’t realize is that every Guild Wars gamer right now has factions sitting on their hard drive. We have this streaming technology that we’ve build into the game from day one that allows us to quickly add content to the game and fix unbalance issues. We also use it to drive these big global events that we have – five or six times a year, we have either worldwide open events or beta preview events, things like that. People are able to jump in, see the new content, and play 72 hours over the weekend, but they don’t ever have to download a huge client. Gamers are so used to it now that they don’t question how it works, well the way it works is that 3 weeks or sometimes a month before we start an event, we start using idle bandwidth as they play Guild Wars to stream down the assets for the event to their computer so that when the event starts, almost everybody already has it on their hard drive.

kirby2096

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

The Angels of Divine Hope [Hope]

24 Oct 2006 at 19:23 - 48

PC DVD-ROM Games have been coming out in Europe with no alternative versions for many years now, I think it's about time Americans caught up

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

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W/Mo

24 Oct 2006 at 19:26 - 49

I wonder if peoples would be happier with CD-ROM or DVD discs for future Guild Wars chapters.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

24 Oct 2006 at 19:26 - 50

A lot of parrots in this thread...yes DVD drives are old, no they are not required to play NF.

/End of story.

Bringer Of Fury

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

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24 Oct 2006 at 19:26 - 51

I want GW CE on floppys, A-Net, OBEY, im a paying customer!
/sarcasm

Clawdius_Talonious

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Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

24 Oct 2006 at 19:29 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

I wonder if peoples would be happier with CD-ROM or DVD discs for future Guild Wars chapters.

That would be an interesting poll, if for no other reason than to see how large a percentage vote that it doesn't matter to them since they download the client and never use the disks to install

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

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W/Mo

24 Oct 2006 at 19:34 - 53

quick.. someone pm a mod to close this down? I think this thread is done...

Horseman Of War

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The Cult of Doom

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24 Oct 2006 at 19:35 - 54

hell I can almost play guild wars on my cell phone

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

24 Oct 2006 at 19:45 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatmouse

Woah, hold on. You're telling me it isn't on floppy disks??

Get with the times, games have been coming on DVD-only for years.

Bwaahahah

Shadowfrost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Planet Earth (sometimes)

Nowhere To Run, Nowhere To [Hide]

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24 Oct 2006 at 21:11 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

Instruction on how to install GW: Nightfall

1) Go to the store
2) Pick up a copy of Nightfall (SE or CE)
3) Go home and open the box
4) Take out the CD-Key
5) Login to your account
6) Click add/modify CD-Key
7) Input GW: Nightfall CD-Key
8) Game on and enjoy

To add to that:

9) Just before you go to bed, go to the shortcut on your desktop, right-click and add -image on the end of the shortcut destination, then start it up and leave it running. It downloads EVERY image for EVERY map, so you only have to uncompress them when you load them. That's only if you don't play overnight, anyway :P. But for a slow computer, it's awesome.

Enix

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

I am in a transitional period.

GRE

24 Oct 2006 at 21:54 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatmouse

Woah, hold on. You're telling me it isn't on floppy disks??

Get with the times, games have been coming on DVD-only for years.

I want my copy of GW on 5" Floppies, if you please. Also, can I get the new X-Men III on Betamax?

Whiplashr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

24 Oct 2006 at 21:56 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious

Mr Chigger: That hoop's got a hole in.

Mr Anemone: Oh Eton and Madgalene. The hoop has an hole in. Of course it's got a hole in, it wouldn't be a hoop otherwise, would it, mush!

"You're on a bloody wire!"

MisterB

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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24 Oct 2006 at 22:11 - 59

I bought my first PC in 1998. I shopped around many pre-built desktops to find built-in DVD/CD-ROM at my price point, with all the other features I wanted.I found one for almost $100 below my budget, then, after ~2 weeks. It is unfortunate you did not do the same, but that is your choice, not ANet's fault. I
have actually found it annoying that software has only been available on 2-5 CDs for so long. I applaud ANet for releasing on DVD, and besides, as eveyone else pointed out, you just download the client, and type your key-done. Stop whining.

Cynicide

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

24 Oct 2006 at 22:13 - 60

Screw this, Guild Wars had better come on punched cards!

In all seriousness, I'm on my 3rd DVD drive at the moment. They're cheaper than a good meal out. I don't give a rats about ArenaNET's obligations to their consumers on this front, people who insist on using CDROM drives for no good reason have held the rest of us back.

Historically when a portion of a consumers became so small that it was not worth supporting them they were simply "end of lifed" by companies. Tape vs Audio CD, VHS vs Betamax, all good examples. Upgrade before this happens because after that no one will care.

EDIT: Looking at my Nightfall CE box it says DVD Drive in the required specs and has a big "PC DVD" symbol on it. If I were to guess it's contents, I'd say a DVD was in there.

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

24 Oct 2006 at 22:29 - 61

This is fine, don't be so old fashioned. Like people said, download it.

Lord Palidore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

24 Oct 2006 at 23:02 - 62

Some people also seem to forget this too, so just a note that if you already own Guild Wars and have the first or second game installed, you can pretty much throw away the Nightfall disks as all you need to do is add the key to your account.

On a somewhat related note- 2 and a half days until Nightfall

!

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

24 Oct 2006 at 23:26 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

Instruction on how to install GW: Nightfall

1) Go to the store
2) Pick up a copy of Nightfall (SE or CE)
3) Go home and open the box
4) Take out the CD-Key
5) Login to your account
6) Click add/modify CD-Key
7) Input GW: Nightfall CD-Key
8) Game on and enjoy

I gather from what you are saying is you just enter the key and it will automatically install the files for you.I will admit I am one of those who only has a cd rewriter no dvd rewriter as I never really planned on doing anything with a DvD on my Computer although a new system is on the horizon for next year.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

25 Oct 2006 at 00:29 - 64

So, if it ships on DVD-ROM, it logically must contain more than 700MB, right? Or they'd ship it on CD-ROM? CDs are ever so 90s anyways, but if we're stuck in the past, can I be stuck in the 70s? That'll be 1400 8-inch floppies, please.

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

25 Oct 2006 at 00:47 - 65

Just echoing the rest, Just key in your key if you dont have a DvD rom and load the game, you can even do it while you sleep at the main log in screen if you have a slower connection.

Essentially, as time goes by, games will require higher specifications to run and enjoy. Though in a MMO concept of allowing even lower specifications to have access of the game, upgrading of technology is often inevitable if GW were to try to compete with other games that "looks" more graphically appealing as well.

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

25 Oct 2006 at 01:21 - 66

i dont want to poke fun at all the unfortunate people but i am forced too...

if you dont have a DVD (read) drive its just S-A-D!!! for a component for the most part is cheaper than game itself its about time you got a upgrade from your 386 to a more modern machine.... ur playing a game its not ANETS fault ur pc sucks

Angamar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

25 Oct 2006 at 01:45 - 67

Dear ANet,

Could I have my CE copy of NF on 5 1/4" floppys please [SSSD preferably], I realize that you'll have to charge extra for the seeveral pounds of disks, but what-the-heck, I'm a traditionalist at heart! Besides, it might be fun to to sit at the computer for a few days swapping out 2482 disks.

BTW guys, this thread was priceless!

Bowman Artemis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Gold Coast, Australia.

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

25 Oct 2006 at 01:46 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by morimoto

it is important to note that this is not just something to complain about.

it is not about the fact that we can download the client.

the point is that we as consumers should not have to do this. we should not have to work around a product that we paid for with our hard earned money.

we as consumers have rights that large coorporations are taking advantage of. in a world that has several different types of media that a product can be released on, the maufacturer needs to cater to the needs of its consumers.

it is unfortunate that these corporations dont listen and are only concerned with money. the only way to make them change their ways is to be vocal about our concerns. to demand equal treatment for all consumers. not just the ones with DVD drives.

many will find my views rigid and maybe a bit silly. but the fact remains...if you let corporations take just a little of your rights away, they will take all of them away.

it is important to note that this is not just something to complain about.

it is not about the fact that we can download the client.

the point is that we as consumers should not have to do this. we should not have to change discs 3-4 times during an installation when we have DVD drives.

we as consumers have rights that large coorporations are taking advantage of. in a world that has several different types of media that content can be released on, manufacturers have been catering to all by offering the downloadable client.

it is unfortunate that these people dont listen and are only concerned with what is easy for them. the only way to make them see the light is to be patient with our explanations. to show them that the standard edition of the game has cds, so people like you can install the game too. not just the ones with DVD drives.

many will find my views rigid and maybe a bit silly. but the fact remains...if you want something that the corporations are giving you, you have no reason to complain.

Mr_eX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ice Tooth Cave

Opt and Niho Private Chat [lulz]

N/Me

25 Oct 2006 at 01:48 - 69

I fail to see the problem with putting the game on a DVD.

Welcome to 2006.

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

Me/N

25 Oct 2006 at 02:07 - 70

I would like my copy of Nightfall installed via abacus. A-Net, I am the customer and I am always right!

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

25 Oct 2006 at 03:21 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by morimoto

i do not have a dvd drive in my computers. could i afford one? sure, but that is not the issue here. i should not have to buy a dvd drive if i dont want.

GW should come in CD and DVD formats. it is up to the people puching their product to cater to the needs of the user.

I want the 1458 floppy disk version please.

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

25 Oct 2006 at 03:31 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angamar

Dear ANet,

Could I have my CE copy of NF on 5 1/4" floppys please [SSSD preferably], I realize that you'll have to charge extra for the seeveral pounds of disks, but what-the-heck, I'm a traditionalist at heart! Besides, it might be fun to to sit at the computer for a few days swapping out 2482 disks.

OMG! ROFL! Classic!

Seissor

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Squiggilyville. Population: Me.

[oRly] Hello Kitty Death Squad

R/Me

25 Oct 2006 at 04:43 - 73

0.o

Well I understand their drama, but use the key and D/L the files. Also it's been stated for months on the GuildWars website that CE is on DVD.

Its not rare to find games or data thesedays on DVD, time to shill out 20 dollars or less for a DVD drive. Embrace the future.

LumpOfCole

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Orlando, FL

Rt/

25 Oct 2006 at 04:55 - 74

Just.. download the files?

If you have Broadband, you don't even need a disk. It would probably make everything more complex anyway. If you already have Factions or Prophecies, you may not know this, but you ALREADY HAVE Nightfall on your computer.

Guild Wars is the last game in the world to complain about the disk not able to be read. Imagine one of those games that REQUIRES the disk in the drive, like Battle for Middle Earth II? UGH to that I say!

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

25 Oct 2006 at 04:58 - 75

gwnf is 50$$$
dvd drive is 20$$$$
doo u understandz?

Cloudpiercer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/

25 Oct 2006 at 05:00 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angamar

Dear ANet,

Could I have my CE copy of NF on 5 1/4" floppys please [SSSD preferably], I realize that you'll have to charge extra for the seeveral pounds of disks, but what-the-heck, I'm a traditionalist at heart! Besides, it might be fun to to sit at the computer for a few days swapping out 2482 disks.

BTW guys, this thread was priceless!

lol, well said man... well said.

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

25 Oct 2006 at 05:07 - 77

Actually only one 5 1/4" floppy would be needed as it could auto load a simple HTML redirect page to the GW website and auto download the entire GW client.

After all doesn’t the BOX say Internet connection required?

What’s on that DVD anyways since all you need is less than 1 MB to accomplish the task?

I smell a conspiracy....

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

less

E/

25 Oct 2006 at 05:07 - 78

If i see another post flamming the fact the the Op doesn't have a DvD drive i am going to go insane.

If you allready have a guild wars client on your system all you have to do is put your key in at the login screen under Add a new key.
as many people have allready said but most seem to ignore, you pay for an account not a client. so for the last time if you can't run the nightfall client off dvd DOWNLOAD IT HERE----> Guild Wars Offical Website

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

25 Oct 2006 at 06:28 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tark Alkerk

If i see another post flamming the fact the the Op doesn't have a DvD drive i am going to go insane.

If you allready have a guild wars client on your system all you have to do is put your key in at the login screen under Add a new key.
as many people have allready said but most seem to ignore, you pay for an account not a client. so for the last time if you can't run the nightfall client off dvd DOWNLOAD IT HERE----> Guild Wars Offical Website

Haha, The OP doesn't have a DVD Drive!

*plz go insane*

Anyway...

This is like the guy that was complaining in Tech Corner that the gw.dat file is getting to big for his FAT32 Harddrive.

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

25 Oct 2006 at 06:35 - 80

here is your new and fresh "code it yourself" version, a book with only 1+ million pages, simply input all the code before you play

:P

soooooo, if guildwars chapter 10+ comes out you still want to have 5+ cd's?