A couple pieces of advice for people new to death-levelling:
1) Do it while you're at work, at school, asleep, etc. (No way would I actually grind that much by just sitting there helping my char die faster for hours on end - boring! - but I have no problem leaving my comp on while I'm at work or asleep.)
2) When levelling striders, try to get a spawn where they're already patrolling near the rez shrine before you aggro them. If you have to pull them there, they may wander out of your aggro bubble and stop attacking while you're resurrecting - it's less likely if the rez shrine is already in their patrol route. (Had one DLing all day yesterday, came home & the strider was only level 4 because he wandered some distance away.)
Defender of Ascalon title
blood4blood
Issac
One thing i don't get is the death lvling i read all the psots and stuff, but could someone explain to me somemore about it.
Dr Imperial
wait....whats going on here??
beltran13579
by letting the monsters kill you they used to get experience for your deaths but since a old update.im still not sure if they dont get expierice anymore or if they changed it back
couldnt you make a bot that used heal sig and then pressed esc before it healed you to make it go faster
couldnt you make a bot that used heal sig and then pressed esc before it healed you to make it go faster
Hodor
error=059 <-- 10 hours afk
Tried to leave it running at work overnight, with no luck...
Tried to leave it running at work overnight, with no luck...
Dreikki
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Originally Posted by beltran13579
couldnt you make a bot that used heal sig and then pressed esc before it healed you to make it go faster
Yes but that would get you banned.
Issac
Well it u left it on over night then u can only get like 1 monster too lvl 20 by killing u. But how many monster do u need to do in total?
Yadee
Why not just level a character outside prophecies ?
Im lvl 20 and just started on prophecies campaign today, i have NF from before
Im lvl 20 and just started on prophecies campaign today, i have NF from before
Anarion Silverhand
Because you'll have a hard time travelling 2 years back in time to before the searing.
Yadee
So the title has been unavailable for 2 years ?
Private Prinny
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Originally Posted by Yadee
So the title has been unavailable for 2 years ?
Noyou didn't get his point.
The presearing Ascalon is the tutorial of GW Prophecies. Its a closed Area. If you leave the tutorial you can NEVER return there (instead like Factions or Nightfall tutorial, which are ONLY seperated islands)
The presearing (GW Prophecies tutorial plays 2 years before the story of the maingame. So its virtually impossible to travel back in time, which was his point.
To the other question: Its one hell of a time-consuming Leviathan.
My Charakter which I startet long before Factions was released is now lvl 19. For bout 4 months the DL was impossibe since a update which made leveling monsters unaivalable. Since the release of Nightfall the DL can be done again.
This title was only introduced with the release of nightfall, and the progress in your title menue is only shown if you have a HIGH lvl character in presearing, lvl 1-11 (or 1-13 dunno the excact) won't see anything there.
Its alike with the survivor title which progress shows up only when you are lvl 5 or higher and ndidn't die till then.
For the question if DL is possible after Proph tut: No, since IN presear ascalon there is no death penality. Every other place has Death penality. Monsters only DL with Players without penality (so that takes the ammo out of the guns of people who tried that post sear and didn't achieve anything)
For the question of Survivor + Defender title:
No, since in Presearing you will only be rezzed if both people in party are dead. if only one is dead, no rezz will start. And without a hard rezz in presearing-> No chance of both titles
For question of rezzing pet : Also a no, challenged the Charrbosses and rezzed my lvl 14 pet 200 times (I counted, for those who are interested)
also with dl: how is a Spider lvl 2 supposed to kill a lvl 14-16 pet? Gonna drink Miraculix magic drink?
For the question of the time table...(...wow NOW I have your attention!
)
I startet it long ago, since I was interested in being lvl 20 in presearing, not for that shabby title and it takes a freakin' huge ammount of time. Since the higher lvl you have the more life you got, the more the pets have to attack you, and the less exp you get. IF you just wanna make a character for that title to show it of POST SEARING...just forget it. It takes you 2 weeks or more to go to the northern part of presearing ascalon. From lvl 14 on to lvl 16 only the Charr bosses give you exp. And you have to go bout 100 times for lvl up to 15 and 200 more for lvl 16. That makes it at least 350 Visits to the charrs. Then you've got the part of DL. It takes you bout three months for reaching lvl 20 (even more if you do something else than NOT D-level 24/7). If you ever got that far, I will promise you, you will NOT leave presearing, because that amount of time and effort would go to waste elsewhere.
...hope my loooooong post made some answers to some questions. For all others: Read the entire Thread! That are you supposed to IF you want some info.
So to all others....see you someday on lvl 20...well IF i am not dead till then because I also aim for drunkard (2) in presearing ...and THAT is really something stupi*ahem*.....really tiresome and time-consuming!
The presearing Ascalon is the tutorial of GW Prophecies. Its a closed Area. If you leave the tutorial you can NEVER return there (instead like Factions or Nightfall tutorial, which are ONLY seperated islands)
The presearing (GW Prophecies tutorial plays 2 years before the story of the maingame. So its virtually impossible to travel back in time, which was his point.
To the other question: Its one hell of a time-consuming Leviathan.
My Charakter which I startet long before Factions was released is now lvl 19. For bout 4 months the DL was impossibe since a update which made leveling monsters unaivalable. Since the release of Nightfall the DL can be done again.
This title was only introduced with the release of nightfall, and the progress in your title menue is only shown if you have a HIGH lvl character in presearing, lvl 1-11 (or 1-13 dunno the excact) won't see anything there.
Its alike with the survivor title which progress shows up only when you are lvl 5 or higher and ndidn't die till then.
For the question if DL is possible after Proph tut: No, since IN presear ascalon there is no death penality. Every other place has Death penality. Monsters only DL with Players without penality (so that takes the ammo out of the guns of people who tried that post sear and didn't achieve anything)
For the question of Survivor + Defender title:
No, since in Presearing you will only be rezzed if both people in party are dead. if only one is dead, no rezz will start. And without a hard rezz in presearing-> No chance of both titles
For question of rezzing pet : Also a no, challenged the Charrbosses and rezzed my lvl 14 pet 200 times (I counted, for those who are interested)
also with dl: how is a Spider lvl 2 supposed to kill a lvl 14-16 pet? Gonna drink Miraculix magic drink?
For the question of the time table...(...wow NOW I have your attention!
)I startet it long ago, since I was interested in being lvl 20 in presearing, not for that shabby title and it takes a freakin' huge ammount of time. Since the higher lvl you have the more life you got, the more the pets have to attack you, and the less exp you get. IF you just wanna make a character for that title to show it of POST SEARING...just forget it. It takes you 2 weeks or more to go to the northern part of presearing ascalon. From lvl 14 on to lvl 16 only the Charr bosses give you exp. And you have to go bout 100 times for lvl up to 15 and 200 more for lvl 16. That makes it at least 350 Visits to the charrs. Then you've got the part of DL. It takes you bout three months for reaching lvl 20 (even more if you do something else than NOT D-level 24/7). If you ever got that far, I will promise you, you will NOT leave presearing, because that amount of time and effort would go to waste elsewhere.
...hope my loooooong post made some answers to some questions. For all others: Read the entire Thread! That are you supposed to IF you want some info.
So to all others....see you someday on lvl 20...well IF i am not dead till then because I also aim for drunkard (2) in presearing ...and THAT is really something stupi*ahem*.....really tiresome and time-consuming!
Yadee
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Originally Posted by Private Prinny
Noyou didn't get his point.
The presearing Ascalon is the tutorial of GW Prophecies. Its a closed Area. If you leave the tutorial you can NEVER return there (instead like Factions or Nightfall tutorial, which are ONLY seperated islands)
The presearing (GW Prophecies tutorial plays 2 years before the story of the maingame. So its virtually impossible to travel back in time, which was his point.
Oh
didnt realise i was missing out on gameplay by getting NF first then prophecies
Can i still get 100% explored and all missions done if i am on a NF character ?
The presearing Ascalon is the tutorial of GW Prophecies. Its a closed Area. If you leave the tutorial you can NEVER return there (instead like Factions or Nightfall tutorial, which are ONLY seperated islands)
The presearing (GW Prophecies tutorial plays 2 years before the story of the maingame. So its virtually impossible to travel back in time, which was his point.
Oh
didnt realise i was missing out on gameplay by getting NF first then prophecies
Can i still get 100% explored and all missions done if i am on a NF character ?
Arx Baron
Sure you can
fearian
just not the pre-searing stuff...theres no campaign missions there though
lakatz
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Originally Posted by Yadee
didnt realise i was missing out on gameplay by getting NF first then prophecies
Can i still get 100% explored and all missions done if i am on a NF character ? Hiya Yadee...
Like Arx Baron said... sure you can! You're not really missing out on gameplay. When you get Prophecies you can start a new char there (if you want), and it will start in pre-searing Ascalon.
And you can get 100% exploration of Tyria with chars from the two other campaigns because pre-searing doesn't count anyway toward your 100%. You can do all the missions as well because, unlike the other two campaigns, there are no missions in the tut phase of Prophecies. They are all in post-searing... all 25 of them. So...
have fun!
Vala
Can i still get 100% explored and all missions done if i am on a NF character ? Hiya Yadee...
Like Arx Baron said... sure you can! You're not really missing out on gameplay. When you get Prophecies you can start a new char there (if you want), and it will start in pre-searing Ascalon.
And you can get 100% exploration of Tyria with chars from the two other campaigns because pre-searing doesn't count anyway toward your 100%. You can do all the missions as well because, unlike the other two campaigns, there are no missions in the tut phase of Prophecies. They are all in post-searing... all 25 of them. So...
have fun!
Vala
ddraeg cymru
Best place to death level i found was outside barradins estate i managed to aggro two moss spiders and a strider in one they were close enough to the res shrine best way to level get all the skills you need then get the quests "charr at the gate" from Rurik in ascalon then go outside follow Rurik to the gate get them to kill the charr while you stand within aggro range gaining exp i am currently level 9 and 12% because of this i made my char 3 days ago i have so far only accepted one quest which is the one you get for your first skills then i went to the other places to get skills got the quest and the skills then abbandoned it.
ok continue to get Charr at the gate get the exp from the charr then return to ascalon and abbandon it. repeat this till your level 10 when you stop gaining exp from level 5 charr. now you must go across the wall and kill the 4 bosses this would be done preferably alone to gain most exp possible. repeat this method as before untill level 16 when you stop gaining exp. NOW you death level till 19 then complete all quests and death level more if need be.
best way to level get all the skills you need then get the quests "charr at the gate" from Rurik in ascalon then go outside follow Rurik to the gate get them to kill the charr while you stand within aggro range gaining exp i am currently level 9 and 12% because of this i made my char 3 days ago i have so far only accepted one quest which is the one you get for your first skills then i went to the other places to get skills got the quest and the skills then abbandoned it.ok continue to get Charr at the gate get the exp from the charr then return to ascalon and abbandon it. repeat this till your level 10 when you stop gaining exp from level 5 charr. now you must go across the wall and kill the 4 bosses this would be done preferably alone to gain most exp possible. repeat this method as before untill level 16 when you stop gaining exp. NOW you death level till 19 then complete all quests and death level more if need be.
gjrud
how much exp you can gain when you kill a death leveled moss spider or strider?
NickTheGreek
check this page
http://forums.gwonline.net/showthrea...=429021&page=2
P.S. u maybe have to register 1st
http://forums.gwonline.net/showthrea...=429021&page=2
P.S. u maybe have to register 1st
Pan Head
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Originally Posted by gjrud
how much exp you can gain when you kill a death leveled moss spider or strider?
I am lvl 16 and when I lvl a strider to 20 i get 168 xp. that is 1% of the way to the next title. I let him run all night while i am asleep. Kill the bird before i go to work and start another one. Get home and kill the bird. So i am getting 2% a day at this time. I know it will get slower more to the end as i get higher lvl.
Jeremy Untouchable
My Alliance member Holy W ------ is getting close, he is going to post a huge guide on our site
Pan Head
May have Already been said. i have not read all of the thread. I am about to pull 2 striders and sometimes 3 at a time. makes it go allot faster that way.
MMSDome
i myself just gave up. I was level 13 and realized I would most likely never take the time to death level and get the title. Plus i needed another mule.
Pleikki
I know couple ppl who got this title. And they said it takes 3months nolifing. So for me this title isnt so important. id like have survivor without powerlvl more. or 10000mins drunk.
Electrifying Flames
The title isn't very difficult to get; it's simply the time it takes to get it. However, if you ever took xp from a quest at any time (yes this includes the very quest in the game), then you will NOT reach level twenty. You can only death level to level 19 exactly; from there, it takes every quest in pre-searing to get you to level 20. So, for monks, necromancers, and warriors (who recieve their first two skills after completing the first quest given by their trainers [ciglo, van, what's-her-face] , this would be very difficult.) Anywho, it takes less time to get to rank nine than it does to get legendary title (to a reasonable gamer at least).
salamanca
um, not true, you still get xp at 19 just not very much per kill so you want the quests at that time. Truth be told, there are not enough quests in Pre to gain you level 20 from the exact number of xp level 19 starts at.
Sword
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Originally Posted by Electrifying Flames
The title isn't very difficult to get; it's simply the time it takes to get it. However, if you ever took xp from a quest at any time (yes this includes the very quest in the game), then you will NOT reach level twenty. You can only death level to level 19 exactly; from there, it takes every quest in pre-searing to get you to level 20. So, for monks, necromancers, and warriors (who recieve their first two skills after completing the first quest given by their trainers [ciglo, van, what's-her-face] , this would be very difficult.) Anywho, it takes less time to get to rank nine than it does to get legendary title (to a reasonable gamer at least).
plz dont make posts if you have no idea what you are talking about ....
i know for a fact that you can death level at 19, people save the quests for 20 becasue it is most time conserving to save them till level 19
im doing this title myself, i am level 18 and 38% atm with every quest in pre saved (exluding the quest that gives you your first set of skills after you complete it).
The title isnt that dauting as one might think, it takes 2 days of a few hrs a day to get to level 10 or 11, from there you can solo the northlands, and it is actaully quite fun to clear the northlands (different aspect to GW imo). Getting to 15 is not bad at all (took me about 4-5 days), although level 16 is a bit tedious (about 86 boss runs, took me about 12 mins per run from ascalon->northlands->ascalon ). Since then I spend about 20 mins per night before I go to bed to setup charr to death level. Which yields anywhere from 5-11% per night depending on your level and how the groups share the exp they get off killing you(the exp distribution seems to be very inconsistant in my experience). Time consuming its not as bad as most people think it is, definatly takes more time to get from rank 0 to rank 9 (why do I get the feeling the guy I quoted is not even r9 himself )
i know for a fact that you can death level at 19, people save the quests for 20 becasue it is most time conserving to save them till level 19
im doing this title myself, i am level 18 and 38% atm with every quest in pre saved (exluding the quest that gives you your first set of skills after you complete it).
The title isnt that dauting as one might think, it takes 2 days of a few hrs a day to get to level 10 or 11, from there you can solo the northlands, and it is actaully quite fun to clear the northlands (different aspect to GW imo). Getting to 15 is not bad at all (took me about 4-5 days), although level 16 is a bit tedious (about 86 boss runs, took me about 12 mins per run from ascalon->northlands->ascalon ). Since then I spend about 20 mins per night before I go to bed to setup charr to death level. Which yields anywhere from 5-11% per night depending on your level and how the groups share the exp they get off killing you(the exp distribution seems to be very inconsistant in my experience). Time consuming its not as bad as most people think it is, definatly takes more time to get from rank 0 to rank 9 (why do I get the feeling the guy I quoted is not even r9 himself
)
Thom The Brawler
I see a lot of posts talking about it taking hundreds of hours to get this title lol But if you figure it out, you have to lvl a spider or moa to lvl 20 for max effect, and that takes just about 9 hours if you get a 2 monster spawn. To get from lvl 17 to lvl20 you have to do this about 320 times, making it 2,880 hrs to get from lvl17 to 20. So even if you do this on a continual basis with a spare pc, 24/7, it will take a min of 120 days
Mourne
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Originally Posted by Thom The Brawler
I see a lot of posts talking about it taking hundreds of hours to get this title lol But if you figure it out, you have to lvl a spider or moa to lvl 20 for max effect, and that takes just about 9 hours if you get a 2 monster spawn. To get from lvl 17 to lvl20 you have to do this about 320 times, making it 2,880 hrs to get from lvl17 to 20. So even if you do this on a continual basis with a spare pc, 24/7, it will take a min of 120 days
Which is why people level multiple enemies up at once. Like the guy from CC said, he levels charr. That will cut down on the time drastically, and since most of the death leveling occurs at night, its not that bad on time.
Killaya
I've seen God Anti------ in pre a long time ago. In fact she's the one who taught me how to 55 monk (she invited me to meet with her lvl 20 character outside of pre and demonstrated for me.) She's got black armor, lvl 20, in pre. And I've had a character that was lvl 18 in pre before I deleted her. I saved all the quests until I was level 10... I should have waited longer though, I found it impossible to keep leveling once I hit 18.
I might try again sometime.
I might try again sometime.
Steve The Bodygaurd
Its possible to death level... go to gameamp and go to the gw section, whatch the charr death leveling video
Div
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Originally Posted by Sword
plz dont make posts if you have no idea what you are talking about ....
i know for a fact that you can death level at 19, people save the quests for 20 becasue it is most time conserving to save them till level 19
im doing this title myself, i am level 18 and 38% atm with every quest in pre saved (exluding the quest that gives you your first set of skills after you complete it).
The title isnt that dauting as one might think, it takes 2 days of a few hrs a day to get to level 10 or 11, from there you can solo the northlands, and it is actaully quite fun to clear the northlands (different aspect to GW imo). Getting to 15 is not bad at all (took me about 4-5 days), although level 16 is a bit tedious (about 86 boss runs, took me about 12 mins per run from ascalon->northlands->ascalon ). Since then I spend about 20 mins per night before I go to bed to setup charr to death level. Which yields anywhere from 5-11% per night depending on your level and how the groups share the exp they get off killing you(the exp distribution seems to be very inconsistant in my experience). Time consuming its not as bad as most people think it is, definatly takes more time to get from rank 0 to rank 9 (why do I get the feeling the guy I quoted is not even r9 himself )
I think it probably takes about as long to get r6 as to get to level 15-16 in pre (maybe 5ish days of playing a lot?). It all depends on how long it takes to get from that point to level 20, but I think r9 takes a lot longer still ^ ^
People who don't have certain titles always try to claim that their title is better than other people's, so it's not surprising to see someone claim that legendary defender of ascalon is harder than r9. Heck, I can claim my KoaBD is harder than r12, but that's just because their phoenix pwns my tiger :P
i know for a fact that you can death level at 19, people save the quests for 20 becasue it is most time conserving to save them till level 19
im doing this title myself, i am level 18 and 38% atm with every quest in pre saved (exluding the quest that gives you your first set of skills after you complete it).
The title isnt that dauting as one might think, it takes 2 days of a few hrs a day to get to level 10 or 11, from there you can solo the northlands, and it is actaully quite fun to clear the northlands (different aspect to GW imo). Getting to 15 is not bad at all (took me about 4-5 days), although level 16 is a bit tedious (about 86 boss runs, took me about 12 mins per run from ascalon->northlands->ascalon ). Since then I spend about 20 mins per night before I go to bed to setup charr to death level. Which yields anywhere from 5-11% per night depending on your level and how the groups share the exp they get off killing you(the exp distribution seems to be very inconsistant in my experience). Time consuming its not as bad as most people think it is, definatly takes more time to get from rank 0 to rank 9 (why do I get the feeling the guy I quoted is not even r9 himself
)
I think it probably takes about as long to get r6 as to get to level 15-16 in pre (maybe 5ish days of playing a lot?). It all depends on how long it takes to get from that point to level 20, but I think r9 takes a lot longer still ^ ^People who don't have certain titles always try to claim that their title is better than other people's, so it's not surprising to see someone claim that legendary defender of ascalon is harder than r9. Heck, I can claim my KoaBD is harder than r12, but that's just because their phoenix pwns my tiger :P