Lightbringer Procession - Note: AFK Farming/Exploit Has been Removed

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
Well most likely since there is an R9 after R8 as stated in that article, I assume. If there are skills and you KNOW of them could you at least confirm them instead of eluding to their existance? I'd also like to know the stats on them, since signet (especially being an elite) is such an utter crapola skill.... Your argument is quite ironic. The article is wrong about the 4 LB skills...and you trust that it's correct about the 9 ranks of LB?

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Your argument is quite ironic. The article is wrong about the 4 LB skills...and you trust that it's correct about the 9 ranks of LB? As i mentioned before, I'm only R5, so i have no idea what the level cap on LB is other then what i read on wiki which is r8 and sorting through this thread with the eula discussion isn't helping. I'm not arguing the correctness of anything, just simple asking if there is what it says in the article. Obviously, currently there isn't and may never be an R9 or 2 more LB skills.

They also say (on gw.com, the scribe) that the elite mission will have 4 new gem types that might have something to do with creating "spells", which could very well deal directly with LB no attribute type skills. Just pondering...

Tarus From Taros

Tarus From Taros

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
They also say (on gw.com, the scribe) that the elite mission will have 4 new gem types that might have something to do with creating "spells", which could very well deal directly with LB no attribute type skills. Just pondering... The level cap is currently at 8, Same as sunspear. The difference between the two though is it says lb 8 is the highest tier and get's awarded to your big deal title track. Does this mean that LB won't get another level? I believe it will. The only real evidence suggesting it won't is you can't reach 9 right now and it says maxed title on 8. But even knowing that I'll put my faith into gw.com then any speculator on this forum any day.

The bottom line is nobody is going to know for sure until the Elite Area can be reached.

BlackRecluse

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putting your faith in gw.com would not be a good idea, id take the people on these forums any day. and R9 sunspear can be reached, as many people already have. im almost 100% positive that R8 lightbringer is max, and there is just a mistake in that article.

Rera

Rera

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Join Date: Jul 2006

@Tarus: Incorrect. Maximum level for Sunspear is "Spearmarshal (9)", and it *is* obtainable. This is different from Lightbringer, which maxes at "Holy Lightbringer (8)".

gabrial heart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackRecluse
putting your faith in gw.com would not be a good idea, id take the people on these forums any day. and R9 sunspear can be reached, as many people already have. im almost 100% positive that R8 lightbringer is max, and there is just a typo in that article. yeah i'd have to agree... i put my faith in the advertising of the included elite mission and extra hero, neither of which panned out as of yet. seems like more misinformation from anet, this is becomming a bad habit on their part.

Tarus From Taros

Tarus From Taros

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rera
@Tarus: Incorrect. Maximum level for Sunspear is "Spearmarshal (9)", and it *is* obtainable. This is different from Lightbringer, which maxes at "Holy Lightbringer (8)". Christ. Yes, i Know that! But that's a roundabout way of achieving it. Right now it IS CAPPED AT 8. Unless you abuse the bug you cannot achieve 9. And telling me lb gets capped at 8 when I just said that in my post right above you is really frustrating. Read people. And no, I don't trust around 80% of the speculation that goes on in the forums cause time and time again they are proven wrong.

A typo in the article? Meh, the possibility is there but to say that LB gets maxed at 9 and then to say it has 4 skills is a pretty big thing to mess up on. Don't you people think that it's quite possible that the article is dropping a couple hints for ya? Now if that article was written right before the release of NF i'd probably agree they are most likely typos. But if you people are sooo certain that it's all a mistake I'd love to see you put some money where your mouth is and make a little GW gold wager with me. I'll bet up to 10 people here(100k bet ea.) That before or shortly after the elite area opens up the possibility of lb 9 and two lb skills can be accessed. PM me if you want to make that wager :P.

kade

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently residing in ToA dis 1

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yeah i mean A-Net kinda brought this one on themselves...Heroes are "advanced" AI ...technically bots...That highlighted part of the EULA could easily be interpreted in such a manner that Heroes themselves might be considered "illegal."

That combined with mobs that respawn and are a necessity to kill for a title...what did they think would happen :P

In response to you Tarus, which i jsut read after posting...I can see where you are coming from and yes it sounds likely...but for those that have the title maxed now, say, and are using it as the 5th title for KOABD, which they are now able to display...there will be some seriously unhappy customers if A-Net takes this away from them.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
Tarus, because of a bug. You can see people with more than 1337500 xp on their survivor title. See people with more than 10000 minutes being drunk etc etc..

gabrial, the elite signet isnt that bad. You get 24 energy for it at R8, way better than Mantra of Recall for example. There is NOT more than 4 LB skills out there, do you honestly believe that all the players with R8 LB havent found them yet? Right now i'm exploring with R8 LB, and have done almost all quests. There is no more LB skills.
4 LB skills??? - i thougth tehre was only 2


Quote:
Originally Posted by kade
yeah i mean A-Net kinda brought this one on themselves...Heroes are "advanced" AI ...technically bots...That highlighted part of the EULA could easily be interpreted in such a manner that Heroes themselves might be considered "illegal."

That combined with mobs that respawn and are a necessity to kill for a title...what did they think would happen :P But there not 3rd party

kade

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Yeah all I'm saying is that you could interpret it that way...from the way I'm reading the EULA they aren't limiting "Automatic" play to third party programs...which is were the whole argument comes into play against AFK farming...do you need 3rd party programs to do it? no. does anet consider it "automatic gameplay"? only time will tell I suppose

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by unknown1
4 LB skills??? - i thougth tehre was only 2



Meant to say 2.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

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regarding sunspear maxing:
no need to abuse bugs (stay in area and let thing respawn), you can get the last tier by finishing all Sunspear quests. This means you should not finish any of the quests before tier 8.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

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regarding sunspear maxing:
no need to abuse bugs (stay in area and let thing respawn), you can get the last tier by finishing all Sunspear quests. This means you should not finish any of the quests before tier 8.

worker

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Orange County, CA

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Set up three groups. Gaining bout 1370/h~
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7...lbfarm2fu8.jpg

After getting further, I recorded a new hour.. and got approx. ~1,444/h.

johanL

johanL

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Belgium

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what is this trickery?....can someone please explain how exactly you get these kind of hero tricks? i would like to gain the holy lightbringer title but now on rank 3 (gained it by fighting margonites in domain of secrets)...but this is not going so fast as some people here who claim to get 1300/h...
i just don't get it...how do the heroes keep the agro...how do you spread the foes like that??
a complete guide would be most useful, because only screenies don't do it for me.

regards

knoll

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Wootles, thanks guys.

Matrix

Matrix

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by johanL
what is this trickery?....can someone please explain how exactly you get these kind of hero tricks? i would like to gain the holy lightbringer title but now on rank 3 (gained it by fighting margonites in domain of secrets)...but this is not going so fast as some people here who claim to get 1300/h...
i just don't get it...how do the heroes keep the agro...how do you spread the foes like that??
a complete guide would be most useful, because only screenies don't do it for me.

regards Check post # 255. The build is fully written out there. Nets 1000 LB points per hour. Got my title yesterday night.

Rera

Rera

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
Christ. Yes, i Know that! But that's a roundabout way of achieving it. Right now it IS CAPPED AT 8. Unless you abuse the bug you cannot achieve 9. And telling me lb gets capped at 8 when I just said that in my post right above you is really frustrating. Read people. And no, I don't trust around 80% of the speculation that goes on in the forums cause time and time again they are proven wrong. If you already know this, then the difference between the two situations should be obvious to you.

Sunspear: rank 8 is *not* treated as the maximum rank. No addition to KoaBD, rank 9 is visible once rank 8 has been achieved.
Lightbringer: rank 8 is treated by the game as the maximum rank. +1 KoaBD, bar remains full even past 50k points, title states highest available title.

To say that Lightbringer is "like" Sunspear because they are both "capped at" 8 is entirely inaccurate, because the two titles are clearly being handled differently. As of right now, the article on the official website is incorrect.

ekamdu

ekamdu

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Holland

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im at about 30k LB points with my warrior, but since i dont care about my warrior i fought my way to the lands of torment with my monk ^_^ in 3 days :P so ive set him up now and going to bed

Ad0110am

Ad0110am

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Can someone show me how this works ign: gods only knight

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

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Also, there are no new LB skills other than Lightbringer's Gaze and Lightbringer's Signet. Rank 8 also counts toward KoaBD/PKM.

Xpl0iter

Xpl0iter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Just made my LB rank 8 with about 1500-1800 an hr.
started last nite with 34k, and i when i did wake up in the morning, i had 47k. i dont think i slept 13 hours ^_^. This is an estimatated per hour by the way. I was somewhere in the middle forsure.

could make it faster if i tried, would take longer to setup though.

DJCoastal

DJCoastal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Vancouver, BC, Canada

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anyone have the build for this?? i cant get mine to work... >.>

Xpl0iter

Xpl0iter

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For any one who is confused on how to set this up, Msg me ingame, and if u got ts, i may be able to speak to u as well. Vent would do too.

My gf is farming LB points on my build right now.
2 people can easily set 4 groups, and i have a different monk set + a bit addition to Necro skills.

IGN: Darkest Elemantal

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Question: If you're at max Lightbringer, do you still get the points from quest rewards?

ennea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Allies for Luxon Execution

R/Mo

just started using the degen build on necro with bonds. haven't recorded yet what it nets. does anyone know what the best degen amount is? is it -6 or -5?

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
A typo in the article? Meh, the possibility is there but to say that LB gets maxed at 9 and then to say it has 4 skills is a pretty big thing to mess up on. Don't you people think that it's quite possible that the article is dropping a couple hints for ya? Now if that article was written right before the release of NF i'd probably agree they are most likely typos. But if you people are sooo certain that it's all a mistake I'd love to see you put some money where your mouth is and make a little GW gold wager with me. I'll bet up to 10 people here(100k bet ea.) That before or shortly after the elite area opens up the possibility of lb 9 and two lb skills can be accessed. PM me if you want to make that wager :P.
I dont think anyone tried to prove you wrong on that. Just saying that RIGHT NOW the game do not have more than 2 skills for LB.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Question: If you're at max Lightbringer, do you still get the points from quest rewards? Yes. Why?

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I don't really feel like finishing up some quests, but I may have to if I want an exact number for my title.

aohige

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Join Date: Jul 2006

GoW

Mo/

Would that be 51337?

You could enter Nightfallen Jahai at 49991 or so, set up the farm, and stop right as you hit the number. (remember to start off at odd numbers)

Added: Currently doing Well of Silence + Rotting Flesh instead of poison and suffering on Spears.
it cames out to around 1k/h, 100 points more than before.
Still using scythe with zealous to boost their energy gains.
It does have 1 extra degen on all (-7 instead of -6 from poison and suffering), but it does not seem to be overwhelming them. In fact, the disease spread faster than poison, and equally reduce their health, causing more spears to spawn simultaniously, and thus raising the overall income higher.

I assume farming Scythes with this method will probably net you 1100~1150/h, maybe even 1200/h.
I'll stick to experimenting with Spears tho

Grolubao

Grolubao

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How come someone grab 4 groups instead of just 3?

erolz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
regarding sunspear maxing:
no need to abuse bugs (stay in area and let thing respawn), you can get the last tier by finishing all Sunspear quests. This means you should not finish any of the quests before tier 8. Er that's what I did with a non elonian charater brought over from tyria - did no quests (other than ones to get me off island) untill I had maxed out the sunspear points. However there do not seem to be enough points in quests to take you the final level (7500 points worth).

ennea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Allies for Luxon Execution

R/Mo

hey guys. i'm now getting 1230/h with 3 groups of spears. the linky below shows how i do it. the hero positioning is easy to recognize. the 3rd group is being farmed by the henchies. they kill only 1 spear at a time and so the most at any given point in time at their end is 2 spears. they contribute 100-200 additional points though so thats fine.

here's the linky: http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...dend/gw015.jpg

at r5 right now. should be up to r6 in a few hours and hopefully r8 by 2m.

Rok

Rok

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Guild Wars

Quote:
Originally Posted by ennea
hey guys. i'm now getting 1230/h with 3 groups of spears. the linky below shows how i do it. the hero positioning is easy to recognize. the 3rd group is being farmed by the henchies. they kill only 1 spear at a time and so the most at any given point in time at their end is 2 spears. they contribute 100-200 additional points though so thats fine.

here's the linky: http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...dend/gw015.jpg

at r5 right now. should be up to r6 in a few hours and hopefully r8 by 2m. What are th 2 necro skills that are shiftclicked? It really helps if people list the skills they use when they are different from previous posts.

Two April Mornings

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48k and counting...thanks to all in this thread.

RSGashapon

RSGashapon

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Is anyone still doing LB point farming? I'd like to see how it's done ingame, since even after reading the majority of the thread I still don't seem to have the nack for it. Some pointers and tips on setup/flag positioning would be nice.

Not looking to shoot right up into the higher LB ranks (like 8+), but just enough to be R5 or so.

Slainster

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by RSGashapon
Is anyone still doing LB point farming? I'd like to see how it's done ingame, since even after reading the majority of the thread I still don't seem to have the nack for it. Some pointers and tips on setup/flag positioning would be nice.

Not looking to shoot right up into the higher LB ranks (like 8+), but just enough to be R5 or so. Well if you're not to worried about ranks, you can easily achieve 400+ an hour by using the basic 2 hero setup, Ive used this while getting used to positioning, refer to Juicy Shakes build on page 13 or 14 for R\N and Mo bonder build. You can use this with either scythes or spears (spears been a little more stable). Then all you need to do is position the Ranger on one side of the rez shrine, the monk bonder on the other, and thats it. You may want to include a 2nd hero monk for a little extra healing, but it isnt really necessary.

ennea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Allies for Luxon Execution

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rok
What are th 2 necro skills that are shiftclicked? It really helps if people list the skills they use when they are different from previous posts.
lol..fine fine..

Olias and MoW: well of suffering, suffering, enfeebling blood, shadow of fear, parasitic bond (turned off), spiteful spirit {e} (turned off), essence bond, balthazar's spirit

curses 14/16, soul reap 12

Dunkoro/Tahlkora: dwayna's kiss, words of comfort, mending (turned off), watchful spirit (turned off), life barrier {e} (turned off), life bond (turned off), essence bond (turned off), balthazar's spirit (turned off)

heal 13, prot 16, divine favor 8

necros: i added spiteful spirit to speed up the dmg to the 1st spear that the necro encounters. when a 2nd spear has spawned it isn't used anymore, hence it is turned off. parasitic bond is just a skill to fill up space. the 2 bonds are to keep the necro at near full energy all the time.

monk: this is pretty obvious i guess..you bond the necros. the tricky part is positioning him between and far enough away from the 2 necros so they don't get aggro (flagged as avoid combat) while still in range of healing if needed.

as for the henchies..just make sure they're flagged right in front of the spear they are attacking so that they don't have to run back a long distance after the spear calls another spear (henchies will run back to their flag when they aren't being attacked; e.g. when the spear is using call to torment).

here's a clearer image of the positioning (i think): http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...dend/gw016.jpg

weez

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Hey guys, thanks to everyone for the useful info especially who posted the 2 R/N + bonder detailed instructions (Juicy?). I was setting up the farm quickly like crazy, cause I was afraid like hell that it get nerfed, but it didn't so I got the 8th maxed title, and elonian grandmaster cartographer is coming soon Now I need to look at a hard maxable title as 10th one (prob I will start chestrun seriously

Dr Ripley

Dr Ripley

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Seattle

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Nice. I like Ennea's setup with the N/Mos instead of the N/Rs. I might try that next with a combination of Aohige's idea using Well of Silence + Rotting Flesh (another cool idea). So far, I can only get one group going though. Setting up the first group is cake, but everytime I try to set up the 2nd and 3rd groups, the whole plan crashes. Practice makes perfect I guess.

johanL

johanL

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Belgium

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can you provide some tips how to get 2 seperate groups of spears? i can only manage one big group of 7 spears at a time on one N/r the other N/r can't get a group of its own.
this is what i do...i fight all torment with henches..leave spear alive, when he casts call of torment...i leave the agro with henches, bond my first necro hero and get it in agro with the spears...while bonder heals.
but it has to go so quick the other necro doesn't have the chance to agro the another spear.
can someone please help? ty