Lightbringer Procession - Note: AFK Farming/Exploit Has been Removed
Maxiemonster
There is no spoon.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Netherlands
Mo/
27 Nov 2006 at 12:20 - 441
Thanks for the help everyone, I've started afk farming 5 minutes ago, I just reached rank 3! I can afk for about 8 hours today, so I guess I'll be rank 5 at the end of the day.
Oh, and maybe someone should open a thread with a precise guide how to do this, because I went through alot of pages to figure it out ^^
Thanks again,
Max.
worker
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2005
Orange County, CA
W/
27 Nov 2006 at 12:36 - 442
After a few tries I finally got two groups, might try three tomorrow if my buddy decides to roll some of the roles for this.. thank to all who posted information on how to do this correctly.
Cyan The Archer
Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2005
Denmark
R/
27 Nov 2006 at 12:39 - 443
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rok
Actually no it doesn't show everything that needs to be shown, you could list the skills you use since some people still don't know all the icons. And when referring to someone else's method you could point them to the page it is on. But I'll just quote it for them instead.
You cant do that. I did a few pages ago, and it got deleted by a mod.
DJCoastal
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Mo/
27 Nov 2006 at 12:47 - 444
>.< gotta try this later one.... my friend showed me earlier.... but i just didnt get the hang of it... >.>
Ate of DK
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Netherlands
None but Fools [nuts]
27 Nov 2006 at 12:58 - 445
Oke, I checked it for all of you.
I just tried this the first time and it works. Guess my PC gets some overwork this night ^^
I started my count at the message of playing 1 hour and stopped when it said that I'm playing 2 hours.
874 Lightbringer points with the 2 group-R/N strategy.
Rok
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild Wars
27 Nov 2006 at 13:46 - 446
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
You cant do that. I did a few pages ago, and it got deleted by a mod.
Hmm, wonder why that is... mine is still there on the last page.
But for reference, Aohige's posts that I quoted are back on page 15. Started using that method myself.
9:46 pm (Pacific Time) I was at 9949 LB points
4:46 am I had 15189 LB points
so in 7 hours I gained 5240 LB points, averaging out to just under 749/hour
Somehow I totally missed Eather's set up on page 13, gonna give that a shot since he posted it gets 1.4k/hour.
GL AFK farming!
PS
5:46 am I have 15939 LB points - 750 more
Kaida the Heartless
Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2006
N/
27 Nov 2006 at 13:51 - 447
Sorreh Juicy, I got ya beat bro.
1.6k+ an Hour, 1 Man:
You need to be a bonder with:
Balthazar's Spirit
Life Bond
Life Barrier (e)
Essence Bond
Mending
Watchful Spirit
Bond each of your 3 N/D's or D/N's with:
Balthazar's Spirit, Life Bond, Life Barrier (e), and one or two with Essence Bond
Place Mending, Balth's Spirit, and Watchful Spirit on Yourself once setup.
Setting Up:
Find a Mob with Spears in it. Kill everything else off and split the spears. Have the D/N's or N/D's take turns pulling off one Spear to their own section (bond them first).
Watch the points roll in. This build needs no monks for farming, but that makes killing the groups a bit tricky. Best done with a friend (who is a monk) who brings another monk, a N/D or D/N, and a Warrior. This makes killing the groups easier, and adds a great deal more to your farming rate.
Each N/D or D/N is estimated at about 550 an hour. It is very possible to break 2k with another person farming with you (stated above). I haven't had too much time to mess with this, but for the time I ran it, it worked gloriously. Watch out for RAM overload. Hehe.
Thanks to Juicy for the origional Death/Curses Idea. Rock on dude!
*NEVERMIND*
Apparently, despite the fact that I put the skills in the friggin order they need to be in, the stupid AI can't figure out what healing is. The time that I spent running this was probably that 1 in a million that everything works right. I'm going to test this with Vital Blessing to see if the AI get's any less stupid.
Savio
Teenager with attitude
Join Date: Jul 2005
Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
27 Nov 2006 at 14:13 - 448
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
You cant do that. I did a few pages ago, and it got deleted by a mod.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rok
But for reference, Aohige's posts that I quoted are back on page 15.
You can always use the links in the upper right hand corner of a post to link back to an older post. It's much less of an eyesore than page-long quotes.
Just right-click the number, choose "Copy Link Location" or whatever your browser's equivalent is, then paste it into your post. One example is the following post:
2 groups usually get only 500 u got a pretty good build then
Yes, 900 with 2 groups.
It has been posted before that 1 group of spears gets about 450/hour, which equates to 2 groups getting about 900. Mines modified and goes slightly faster, I get about 30 more points/hour.
PS: Woke up thismorning at 51K points
ennea
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2006
Allies for Luxon Execution
R/Mo
27 Nov 2006 at 14:37 - 450
just started afk farming an hour ago. recorded 500 LB points in 1 hour of farming spears with 2 groups. used the R/P spear build for Jin that used to be 1 of the premade builds during the NF preview event. other heroes included Dunkoro and Tahlkora while the henchies were Mhenlo, Devona, Gehraz, and Kihm. still need to experiment how to make it faster i guess. but as it happens there are at most only 2 spears in each group so i guess its ok. thanks to all the info on this thread. hope they don't nerf it yet.
YornStar
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2006
Portugal
Bad Net Fubar [bad]
W/
27 Nov 2006 at 15:09 - 451
Kaida the Heartless, what weapons do you use on the N/D?
gabrial heart
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Las Vegas
Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]
Mo/Me
27 Nov 2006 at 15:37 - 452
So would all you farmers enlighten us?
According to the section on GW.com, there are 4 lightbringer skills yet only 2 are listed on wiki, gaze and signet. Does anyone know what the other 2 are and what level you need to reach to get them? I'm LB 5 with no farming time.
Shanaeri Rynale
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
DVDF(Forums)
Me/N
27 Nov 2006 at 16:06 - 453
Hmm just been reading the EULA
You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input.
Hmm
This is same sort of thing as the 9 rings AFK title grind, was this ever clarfied by AN?
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
Join Date: May 2006
N/Me
27 Nov 2006 at 16:19 - 454
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
Hmm
This is same sort of thing as the 9 rings AFK title grind, was this ever clarfied by AN?
You played 9 Rings by doing nothing. You are AFK farming because you are doing nothing. Big difference.
gabrial heart
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Las Vegas
Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]
Mo/Me
27 Nov 2006 at 16:27 - 455
I think the main thing about boting has a lot to do with taking game earnings and turning them into real world earnings. It also stand to reason the the afk farming requires a decent amount of human input to get positioned and set up. Then again it takes a good amount of programming setup to get a bot working as well. I think it comes down to the end result (if real world money is exchanged), not so much with LB points. But I'm sure this AFK farming for LB points will be squashed fairly soon.
Shanaeri Rynale
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
DVDF(Forums)
Me/N
27 Nov 2006 at 16:27 - 456
Having a blonde moment, so forgive me.
9 Rings stand there and obtain a title, after some setting up(buying tickets). While the game gets it for you.
AFK LB points
Stand there and obtain a title, after some setting up. While the game gets it for you.
Just kinda concerned with all this AFK'ing going on people will wake up in the morning being banned.
mwpeck
Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2006
Gameamp Guides [AMP]
W/
27 Nov 2006 at 16:42 - 457
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
Hmm just been reading the EULA
You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input.
This is where it depends on how you interpret the EULA....I see that as saying you many not use any outside mods to automate something for you. Whereas, something inside the game itself is completely fine. And it DOES require human input to setupm which to me, rules out the part you bolded.
I emailed anet yesterday asking where they stand on this so hopefully I will get an actual response as opposed to some snippit from the EULA.
Maxiemonster
There is no spoon.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Netherlands
Mo/
27 Nov 2006 at 16:51 - 458
I've got the feeling afk Lighbringer farming is quite popular and they're not going to ban maybe several thousand people for something that if it's against the rules, would only be on the edge of being so or not. - I'd say you shouldn't worry about getting banned.
I hope I can still get my 50K points before this is nerfed though, but I doubt it, my internet is shut off at night, and either way, I'm getting errors
Anyone know how to make the error=59 (or something like that) go away? It says it's my memory, but I kinda doubt that, because I've played 10 hours on a day before without restarting my computer, without any errors.
mrcake
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
W/N
27 Nov 2006 at 16:56 - 459
I cant see any problem with afk farming.
They made the game and its features and we are just making the most of them.
They could of removed the LB point gain from duplicate monsters like they did the XP gain and also you dont get gold or weapon drops from duplicates, so it's not like they cant stop it easily if they want to
SumXone
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2006
27 Nov 2006 at 17:07 - 460
well, i'm not afk, i'm sitting there all the time, supervising my heroes.
prove me wrong.
Shanaeri Rynale
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
DVDF(Forums)
Me/N
27 Nov 2006 at 17:09 - 461
Quote:
I emailed anet yesterday asking where they stand on this so hopefully I will get an actual response as opposed to some snippit from the EULA
Does anyone else think this will be nerfed at the same time as we get a response now...
dr1zz one
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Nov 2005
R/
27 Nov 2006 at 17:25 - 462
Quote:
Originally Posted by SumXone
well, i'm not afk, i'm sitting there all the time, supervising my heroes.
prove me wrong.
Yea, im with this guy supervising heroes!
Funny story, I went around looking for chests just for the heck of it. I got hexed and died. So I supervised half my heroes to come and get me. I got them back into position and supervised them the rest of the night. Good times!
bamm bamm bamm
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
27 Nov 2006 at 17:28 - 463
Well they certainly know about it and haven't as of yet taken any action. I don't see how they could possibly punish people for using 'bots' provided by Anet themselves.
I thought it was going to be nerfed as soon as people started doing it, but they only touched xp gain. It would certainly be easy to do so. But then I thought faction farming was going to be nerfed too...
Gli
Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
27 Nov 2006 at 17:32 - 464
This is a completely innocent and harmless practice compared to the incredibly annoying AFKing at Fort Aspenwood. Which they haven't fixed yet.
mrcake
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
W/N
27 Nov 2006 at 17:45 - 465
Quote:
Originally Posted by dr1zz one
Yea, im with this guy supervising heroes!
Funny story, I went around looking for chests just for the heck of it. I got hexed and died. So I supervised half my heroes to come and get me. I got them back into position and supervised them the rest of the night. Good times!
I have done that once or twice, gone off exploring leaving them killing.
Strange thing is when i get so far away tahlkora's energy stops regenerating, even though im a warrior and have not put enchantments on anyone.
If i leave it to long and dont go back she dosent heal my ranger or necro hench and they die.
Nearly at 50k now.. which means i will be able to go to sleep tonight instead of sitting up organising my heros all night and day .. cough...
Abnaxus
Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2005
Europe
Keepers of Chaos
27 Nov 2006 at 17:46 - 466
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
Hmm just been reading the EULA
You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input.
Hmm
This is same sort of thing as the 9 rings AFK title grind, was this ever clarfied by AN?
In Prophecies and Factions, sometimes it happened that you died and henchies continued the battle "automatically without human input" and cleared the enemies on their own without ressing you. Or you went afk for a while and when back your henches had cleared a patrol which in the meantime aggroed your group. Literally, you couldn't give human input in those cases.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
Having a blonde moment, so forgive me.
9 Rings stand there and obtain a title, after some setting up(buying tickets). While the game gets it for you.
AFK LB points
Stand there and obtain a title, after some setting up. While the game gets it for you.
Just kinda concerned with all this AFK'ing going on people will wake up in the morning being banned.
Sounds a bit false as an excuse, especially after having raised against AFK farmers the suspect they're going against the EULA and so doing the worst "crime" in the game.
Personally I'm not interested in AFK farming for a title that is nearly totally useless, nevertheless I consider creative and intelligent, much more than I am, those players who have experimented, discovered this feature of the AI and worked to improve it.
They are even more brilliant than A.net developers, who programmed the AI with a lot of well known bugs and didn't realize that this was possible.
But I can understand the disappointment of an "elite player" who celebrates him/herself and his/her guild for "impossible challenges" like clearing FoW without weapons, when someone takes him/her away the exclusiveness of one of the high-end elitist titles just making henchies and monsters playing between themselves ...
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
Join Date: May 2006
N/Me
27 Nov 2006 at 17:47 - 467
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
This is a completely innocent and harmless practice compared to the incredibly annoying AFKing at Fort Aspenwood. Which they haven't fixed yet.
Just wait. As soon as the Elite Mission is implemented, you will see topics that say "LB R3 = NUB! LB R8 = 1337!!!!1111!!!!1!"
gabrial heart
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Las Vegas
Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]
Mo/Me
27 Nov 2006 at 17:53 - 468
So, no one knows about the other 2 LB related skills?
mwpeck
Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2006
Gameamp Guides [AMP]
W/
27 Nov 2006 at 17:54 - 469
Thats another reason I dont think this is against the EULA......if they wanted to, it would have been fixed by now. They knew about it back when they nerfed clones to give no xp. They could either make them give no LB points, and if its the bounty, not the monsters, giving the points, just make the clones not count as a kill.
And yes, I think we will see some chat looking for r8 people for the elite mission. Could be a bad thing, but if its hard enough you could need that r8 to survive, but I dont think anet would make it THAT hard.
BlackRecluse
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
[Dark]
W/
27 Nov 2006 at 18:15 - 470
im pretty sure anet will not nerf it completely, but they will change the groups or slightly tweak the ai so it is much harder. they wont put a stop to it becaues you dont get any xp or drops; the only good this does is the title, which is not that important..
Tarus From Taros
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2005
27 Nov 2006 at 18:18 - 471
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Just wait. As soon as the Elite Mission is implemented, you will see topics that say "LB R3 = NUB! LB R8 = 1337!!!!1111!!!!1!"
I'll put my money on " LB R9 = 1337!!!!1111!!!!1! "
unknown1
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Mo/
27 Nov 2006 at 18:18 - 472
Well Anet might be thinking we want people to get the title, but isnce it would take to much grinding good job for figuring out a way to get the title quickly and effiecently =)
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
Join Date: May 2006
N/Me
27 Nov 2006 at 18:19 - 473
Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
So, no one knows about the other 2 LB related skills?
They don't exist. The author of that article has never played the game.
Shanaeri Rynale
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
DVDF(Forums)
Me/N
27 Nov 2006 at 18:20 - 474
Quote:
But I can understand the disappointment of an "elite player" who celebrates him/herself and his/her guild for "impossible challenges" like clearing FoW without weapons, when someone takes him/her away the exclusiveness of one of the high-end elitist titles just making henchies and monsters playing between themselves ...
My concern was that after the dragon festival a number of people got banned for botting etc, one of the things that linked them was 9 rings afk farming.
Now if you think I was wrong to bring it up them that's kinda tough.
Personally I think this is the same as 9 rings AFK farming, but taking into account the link above was'nt it better to ask the question now(as someone helpfully did above) than people be onto support for hours trying to get a banned account back.
I think the builds and tactics are are ingenious personally, I kinda hope AN feels the same, in the way they thought the progression to sunspear 9 was.
Does' it cheapen LB rank, for sure it does. It's not as though titles meant much anyway, but as pointed out the elite mission may be made easier by having a high LB rank. Or if rumors are confirmed and it'll be in the Nightfallen version of the jewel'd palace with Djinn maybe not. LB does'nt work on Djinn after all..
Tarus From Taros
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2005
27 Nov 2006 at 18:22 - 475
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
They don't exist. The author of that article has never played the game.
Heh, Don't be too Hasty. Just because you havn't seen them YET doesn't mean they don't exist.
Dr Ripley
Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2006
Seattle
Force of Arms [FoA]
27 Nov 2006 at 18:25 - 476
Quote:
Originally Posted by SumXone
well, i'm not afk, i'm sitting there all the time, supervising my heroes.
prove me wrong.
LOL! Yeah... the same here. Actually, this is also a great time to work on my ale hound title...
Soooo, more mis-information? Or is there some special place/questline no one's found yet? Someone in Chantry said that there were 2 more skills at r9, but i have no way to confirm anything....
What I can tell you is that after hitting R8 Lightbringer your character still earns lb points. Now, why do you think that is?
gabrial heart
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Las Vegas
Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]
Mo/Me
27 Nov 2006 at 18:36 - 479
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
What I can tell you is that after hitting R8 Lightbringer your character still earns lb points. Now, why do you think that is?
Well most likely since there is an R9 after R8 as stated in that article, I assume. If there are skills and you KNOW of them could you at least confirm them instead of eluding to their existance? I'd also like to know the stats on them, since signet (especially being an elite) is such an utter crapola skill....
Cyan The Archer
Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2005
Denmark
R/
27 Nov 2006 at 18:36 - 480
Tarus, because of a bug. You can see people with more than 1337500 xp on their survivor title. See people with more than 10000 minutes being drunk etc etc..
gabrial, the elite signet isnt that bad. You get 24 energy for it at R8, way better than Mantra of Recall for example. There is NOT more than 4 LB skills out there, do you honestly believe that all the players with R8 LB havent found them yet? Right now i'm exploring with R8 LB, and have done almost all quests. There is no more LB skills.