Farming Sunspear points
Kappa90
So I'm stuck at r8 and i can't get the max in any way??
Tiltowait
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Originally Posted by Kappa90
So I'm stuck at r8 and i can't get the max in any way??
It is hard for me to believe that Anet would develop a title that would require this sort of exploit to max. I plan to keep looking.
My guess is that those Sunspears who have the empty dialog boxes will eventually direct us to the next step similar to what happened on the Lightbringer progression with the Chantry.
My guess is that those Sunspears who have the empty dialog boxes will eventually direct us to the next step similar to what happened on the Lightbringer progression with the Chantry.
Yarly
There WILL be a way to max this title for those of us that have already reached rank 8. If there isn't a way then its seriously stupid of Anet to even have this title available, what if someone was at 14,999 then got err7 = angry gamers.
Shinobi Ninjitsu
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Originally Posted by Vaeux
Any part of The Desolation (Sulfurous Wastes, etc) with undead. Awakened Acolytes use Renew Life, and Awakened Cavaliers use Signet of Return.
Ok, great. Thanks for your help.
Thargor
I find it hard to believe that this exploit is the only way to earn the title.
This will be the third title that is screwed up for me in NF.
Cartographer is a royal pain since certain areas change after certain points in the game, elite skill hunting is gonna be extremly hard since certain bosses only spawn during certain quests. And now there is a title that can't even be maxed out unless you chose to exploite it before you reach R8.
I personally think it is time that ANet comes out of hiding and says something about this. This discussion is taking place in many forums and it seems that they are ignoring the issue.
All I am asking for is "This is a bug and we are working on it",
"We know there is no legitimate way to earn this title right now, stay tuned for more news",
or even "Yes there is a legitimate way to earn this title, try looking harder!".
I don't need specifics, just an answer pointing me in the right direction.
C'mon Gaile, we know you can sweet talk those guys into letting you tell us something!
This will be the third title that is screwed up for me in NF.
Cartographer is a royal pain since certain areas change after certain points in the game, elite skill hunting is gonna be extremly hard since certain bosses only spawn during certain quests. And now there is a title that can't even be maxed out unless you chose to exploite it before you reach R8.
I personally think it is time that ANet comes out of hiding and says something about this. This discussion is taking place in many forums and it seems that they are ignoring the issue.
All I am asking for is "This is a bug and we are working on it",
"We know there is no legitimate way to earn this title right now, stay tuned for more news",
or even "Yes there is a legitimate way to earn this title, try looking harder!".
I don't need specifics, just an answer pointing me in the right direction.
C'mon Gaile, we know you can sweet talk those guys into letting you tell us something!
Lord Mendes
well just went for a spearmarshal run and it took 80 minutes to gain 8k sunspear points with a party of 4 players and four hench. Once you get the location down and know exactly which four mobs 2 aggro, what to cast put on your heroes, how to play it, it is the easiest title to max ever.
leguma
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Originally Posted by gabrial heart
Crystal Overlook? try that with your guildy, thats where i was last night. Other then that, I'm at a loss 
I have tried to verify your claim that you can get points by hiking with someone that can still get them both in the Crystal Overlook and in many other maps, and got no results.
This is not to say that I don't believe you, I have heard stranger things, however, if you did see this at work, it is most likely a combination of other factors.
If you have the blessing, you can still get points from things that you do not kill, and even from things that are FAR out of compass range, on the other side of the map, so they are given to everyone. Also, there was at one point some bug about having multiple blessings in the first days. One of my guildies reported the third blessing having no effect, while for me it was the second. There could be some glitch out there that with the right combination of blessings, in the right order would allow you to keep earning points.
If you could remember any other deatils such as what gate you came from, what blessingfs were taken, if you were doing some quest and so on, it could provide useful.
This is not to say that I don't believe you, I have heard stranger things, however, if you did see this at work, it is most likely a combination of other factors.
If you have the blessing, you can still get points from things that you do not kill, and even from things that are FAR out of compass range, on the other side of the map, so they are given to everyone. Also, there was at one point some bug about having multiple blessings in the first days. One of my guildies reported the third blessing having no effect, while for me it was the second. There could be some glitch out there that with the right combination of blessings, in the right order would allow you to keep earning points.
If you could remember any other deatils such as what gate you came from, what blessingfs were taken, if you were doing some quest and so on, it could provide useful.
Two April Mornings
^Ditto
Otherwise I hate having to go against the game to gain something.
Otherwise I hate having to go against the game to gain something.
AlienFromBeyond
Sigh.
skretth
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10072599
or realise that spearmarshell does nothing and it will be fixed later in teh game
or realise that spearmarshell does nothing and it will be fixed later in teh game
gwhobo
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Originally Posted by Lord Mendes
Once you get the location down and know exactly which four mobs 2 aggro, what to cast put on your heroes, how to play it, it is the easiest title to max ever.
Cmon you can't say that and not tell us which...Please say which Area you used, which mobs, what u do with heroes. It's not a bad thing to help others, in fact, many see it as a good thing.
Seissor
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Originally Posted by Lord Mendes
well just went for a spearmarshal run and it took 80 minutes to gain 8k sunspear points with a party of 4 players and four hench. Once you get the location down and know exactly which four mobs 2 aggro, what to cast put on your heroes, how to play it, it is the easiest title to max ever.
Perhaps it is easy to master ( I think Prot of Cantha is easier personally ) But it does require you to know of the exploit before you reach R8, and that's the real kicker.
Fender
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Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
Go to Chantry of Secrets...
Thanks, that worked. All I had to do was talk to the whisper NPCs there and I can get lightbring points again.
kade
so im a little confused here...there will be an alternate way to earn R9 with the update or this will remain the only way to achieve it??
Solarii
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Originally Posted by kade
so im a little confused here...there will be an alternate way to earn R9 with the update or this will remain the only way to achieve it??
She says it pretty plainly that following the big update (which will add the Elite mission or whatever new content she's talking about) there will be a normal way to earn Spearmarshall.
The implication of course is that the title will be some sort of requirement for entrance.
Anyway, its all in there in her thread.
Here's the link.
The implication of course is that the title will be some sort of requirement for entrance.
Anyway, its all in there in her thread.
Here's the link.
mlandry
the big update will take months to come out so really people wanting to get KoaBD with 4 others title maxed missed the easy way out
i just hope they fix the numerous quest bugs that people are reporting (and im sure some elite skills arent in the game or quest-only) before that update
i just hope they fix the numerous quest bugs that people are reporting (and im sure some elite skills arent in the game or quest-only) before that update
LoKi Foxfire
It's kind of stupid to have a title locked just because they didn't get their content delivered on time. Unfortunately for me, Guild Wars in all its glory decided to hard reboot my computer while I was killing rezzing mobs. Now I'm stuck at R8 with a vast majority of GW. Other than that, I still don't understand why they can't let you max out a title if it has no effect on the game yet?
I was hoping to get my 5th title for KOABD too.
I was hoping to get my 5th title for KOABD too.
Sir Mad
This is a mistake, that's it. As you said it has no effect on the game, so be patient and get over it. Yes you will be able to max this title. Just not now. Is it that a big deal?
kade
well its certainly not kind of a big deal....lawl.
Xunlai Master
so r7 res method still works? cos lightbringer method is nerfed with updated.
i got r8 on the 2nd day of nightfall now i cant get more points until they fix it. (i.e. allow a way to earn points)
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i just hope anet will allow us to max the sunspear title with something reasonable so ppl can get em if they want to.
there r enough impossible titles alrdy.. (pvp ones, allegiance, lucky/unlucky, etc) /cough
i got r8 on the 2nd day of nightfall
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i just hope anet will allow us to max the sunspear title with something reasonable so ppl can get em if they want to.
there r enough impossible titles alrdy.. (pvp ones, allegiance, lucky/unlucky, etc) /cough
Cuthroat Dibbler
Heres a plan....
Test the game BEFORE release...
oh they do? Coulda fooled me...
Elites Broken, Titles Broken, Quests Broken....
I say fire the testers and get a new bunch cos the old ones clearly aren't working... they broken too?
Test the game BEFORE release...
oh they do? Coulda fooled me...
Elites Broken, Titles Broken, Quests Broken....
I say fire the testers and get a new bunch cos the old ones clearly aren't working... they broken too?
M1h4iL
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Originally Posted by Cuthroat Dibbler
Heres a plan....
Test the game BEFORE release...
oh they do? Coulda fooled me...
Elites Broken, Titles Broken, Quests Broken....
I say fire the testers and get a new bunch cos the old ones clearly aren't working... they broken too? You should try playing CS:S, GW:NF is actually quite well polished imo, at least compared to so many other games.
Test the game BEFORE release...
oh they do? Coulda fooled me...
Elites Broken, Titles Broken, Quests Broken....
I say fire the testers and get a new bunch cos the old ones clearly aren't working... they broken too? You should try playing CS:S, GW:NF is actually quite well polished imo, at least compared to so many other games.
Guildmaster Cain
Quit complaining or Quit GuildWars
A game like guildwars can never be 100% bugsafe (actually I really cant remember ANY game that hasnt been updated after a few days of release, ok maybe 'Checkers' or 'Chess'). Anyway, Guildwars is simply too big to extensively test everything. If you want a 99,99% bugfree game, you will need to wait 5 years for a game to be released.
Quit complaining or Quit GuildWars
BTW: im not sure if they Sunspear title is bugged, maybe it is meant this way. You can still achieve the max title by doing the quests, which will make it more grinding title. Anyway a title easy to achieve would be a LAME title wouldnt it? Pointing at ppl saying Lucky/unlucky/PvP titles are impossible.
A game like guildwars can never be 100% bugsafe (actually I really cant remember ANY game that hasnt been updated after a few days of release, ok maybe 'Checkers' or 'Chess'). Anyway, Guildwars is simply too big to extensively test everything. If you want a 99,99% bugfree game, you will need to wait 5 years for a game to be released.
Quit complaining or Quit GuildWars
BTW: im not sure if they Sunspear title is bugged, maybe it is meant this way. You can still achieve the max title by doing the quests, which will make it more grinding title. Anyway a title easy to achieve would be a LAME title wouldnt it? Pointing at ppl saying Lucky/unlucky/PvP titles are impossible.
gabrial heart
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Originally Posted by kade
well its certainly not kind of a big deal....lawl.
As far as the title thing goes, some people have actually put a good deal of time and effort into earning the KoBD, none of which includes afk'ing. I can understand people NOT wanting the titles, but i think mostly the reason behind it is not wanting to do what it takes to get them. Between the times i have the KoBD on and the elite title on (220 skills thus far) many people have recognized and congradulated me for them. Honestly, the achievement is enough reward for me. With all 3 maps and protector titles I'm working toward People Know Me simply because i enjoy it. None the less, other then a couple of titles (like drunk, lucky/unlucky and before the nerf, lightbringer) all the other titles require a decent amount of time and effort to be able to claim. Even the afk'ing "Protector of Ascalon" requires a superior amount time and effort. I know a lot of people think titles are stupid or easy to earn, but i see very very few with KoBD because it takes a good deal of dedication.
Cebe
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Originally Posted by gabrial heart
I too get congratulated on some of my Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer title from time to time and it is quite nice...it's a bit of recognition for all your effort...also it proves there are nice people still in this game. Problem is, recently I've told some people I hope to get KoBD in the not too distant future and I've been ranted at for it. I keep getting told that KoBD is going be become too common...it's as though there is an elite club of KoBD title holders and they don't want anyone else to join... If people like that want to continue to feel like "teh l33tz0rZ" PKM is the way forwards. I'm certainly not going to give up on KoBD because someone else thinks it will devalue their title!
You're right. KoBD takes a lot of effort to get and I am not an AFKer...I hate that and I, probably wrongly, harshly rant at people in missions when they go AFK to try to get through the mission. It just winds me up. I am currently working on Elonian GMC, I am at 90.4% at the moment, hope to get to 95% by the end of this evening. It's tough, although the more annoying side of going for GMC title is some of the enemies you have to kill on your way round. I'm not against slaughtering my way around the map, don't get me wrong, but it's the sheer amount of irritating enemies that annoys me. One or two properly hard mobs here and there I wouldn't mind...but instead we get annoying little mobs of mandragor and insects with all manner of enchantment removal skills (I'm an ele) and, easy as they are to kill...EVERY step you take makes more spring up and I sometimes think "is it worth it?"...well only just. No doubt someone will come back and say I should be prepared to do that to gain that title and...evidently I am otherwise I wouldn't be doing it. The thing is I would much rather spend 30 minutes mapping an area with 2 or 3 challenging mobs than 30 minutes mapping an area with hundreds upon hundreds of little annoying insects - especially since I no longer get sunspear points for them. That's all I'm saying.
Sorry about that! More on-topic, I will be interested to see what on earth will happen about the sunspear title track... The majority of us without the forsight to kill self-ressing mobs over and over are a little screwed now so I'm curious as to what they will do to help us get to the top level. I still have a fair few quests to give me sunspear points...but not 7.5k worth of sunspear points!
Solarii
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Originally Posted by Lord Mendes
well just went for a spearmarshal run and it took 80 minutes to gain 8k sunspear points with a party of 4 players and four hench. Once you get the location down and know exactly which four mobs 2 aggro, what to cast put on your heroes, how to play it, it is the easiest title to max ever.
So do we get any clues as to where other than "Desolation" ? I'm already screwed with my paraon (r8 before I even got to desolation) but my Ranger would sure be interested in knowing where ya did that.... I'm assuming it wasnt an afk-type of farming, right?
wilebill
Read all the above. This is just my two cents worth of IMHO.
The methods to get to Spearmarshal are interesting, but sound too much like work and too little like gameplay for me.
ANet should consider that they introduce a feature that is *fun* for players who enjoy getting a blessing from a priest or whatever before going out. Then all that suddenly goes away. Suddenly the agents are just saying have a nice day or some such. Some of their dialogues are blank.
To the average player like me, it makes the game have a broken feeling to it.
The methods to get to Spearmarshal are interesting, but sound too much like work and too little like gameplay for me.
ANet should consider that they introduce a feature that is *fun* for players who enjoy getting a blessing from a priest or whatever before going out. Then all that suddenly goes away. Suddenly the agents are just saying have a nice day or some such. Some of their dialogues are blank.
To the average player like me, it makes the game have a broken feeling to it.
Xunlai Master
nvm read the post below.
Matrix
I know for sure you cant get any points for faming with a lover lvl person. Even if he has a blessing you dont get anything.
I personally didnt complete all quests yet. But im pretty sure you cant get enough at the moment ether.
So the only possible way is to do a one run farm.
I personally didnt complete all quests yet. But im pretty sure you cant get enough at the moment ether.
So the only possible way is to do a one run farm.
Xunlai Master
Read following if you are stuck at R8(Sunspear Castellan) and waiting for the update.
Firstly here are the facts;
1. Currently no NCP will give you blessing once you reach R8.
2. Anet(Gaile Grey) said this wasn't a bug, but it was done intenionally. (probabaly so it wouldn't be too easy to max the title)
3. Anet(Gaile Grey) said more direct route will be open with the update.. but we are still waiting.
So now the solutions;
1. According to at least 2 different people in this thread, you can still earn points after R8 by playing with R7 or below.
According to them, you still don't get blessing but you can still earn point. They said it didn't work in some areas, I was told that it works in Desolation areas.
Now I've tried this with different people in many different areas but I didn't earn single point. However I think it still might work if I changed few things. I was the leader when I tried with different people, but it might have worked if I wasn't the leader and/or if there were more than one <R7. I'm going to try this later and I will post the results here.
2. Repeatable quests, according to wiki u can get R9 by doing quests but slower. I haven't done every single quest yet. There might be quests you can earn points during or cancel the quest after you earn the points. Or you might get repeatable points if do the quest with another player, etc.
e.g. Insatiable Appetite (last quest given by Chuno in Marga Coast) is repeatable but u don't earn sunspear points.
3. Send bug report to Anet. They'll prob fix it sooner if they get enough reports.
I don't think Sunspear title will be hard to max once they update it. I don't see any points and many people have slipped pass already using R7 res method and they still haven't fixed that or the lightbringer method for that matter.
I just hope new update will be available soon cos i think all these bugs can be fixed very easily.
R8 Sunspear;
Allow blessing after R8 so people can still earn points. or Make a repeatable quests to earn points, like ones in faction for kurzick/luxon points. They don't even have to make a new quest, just change one of current quest to repeatable.
R7 Sunspear Res Method;
Don't allow extra points for res kill, it's already set to no extra drops or exp from res kill.
Lightbringer Method;
Don't allow extra points for duplicate kill, it's already set so no extra drops from duplicate kill.
All they have to do is just change few lines in program.. to fix All these bugs.
Firstly here are the facts;
1. Currently no NCP will give you blessing once you reach R8.
2. Anet(Gaile Grey) said this wasn't a bug, but it was done intenionally. (probabaly so it wouldn't be too easy to max the title)
3. Anet(Gaile Grey) said more direct route will be open with the update.. but we are still waiting.
So now the solutions;
1. According to at least 2 different people in this thread, you can still earn points after R8 by playing with R7 or below.
According to them, you still don't get blessing but you can still earn point. They said it didn't work in some areas, I was told that it works in Desolation areas.
Now I've tried this with different people in many different areas but I didn't earn single point. However I think it still might work if I changed few things. I was the leader when I tried with different people, but it might have worked if I wasn't the leader and/or if there were more than one <R7. I'm going to try this later and I will post the results here.
2. Repeatable quests, according to wiki u can get R9 by doing quests but slower. I haven't done every single quest yet. There might be quests you can earn points during or cancel the quest after you earn the points. Or you might get repeatable points if do the quest with another player, etc.
e.g. Insatiable Appetite (last quest given by Chuno in Marga Coast) is repeatable but u don't earn sunspear points.
3. Send bug report to Anet. They'll prob fix it sooner if they get enough reports.
I don't think Sunspear title will be hard to max once they update it. I don't see any points and many people have slipped pass already using R7 res method and they still haven't fixed that or the lightbringer method for that matter.
I just hope new update will be available soon cos i think all these bugs can be fixed very easily.
R8 Sunspear;
Allow blessing after R8 so people can still earn points. or Make a repeatable quests to earn points, like ones in faction for kurzick/luxon points. They don't even have to make a new quest, just change one of current quest to repeatable.
R7 Sunspear Res Method;
Don't allow extra points for res kill, it's already set to no extra drops or exp from res kill.
Lightbringer Method;
Don't allow extra points for duplicate kill, it's already set so no extra drops from duplicate kill.
All they have to do is just change few lines in program.. to fix All these bugs.
Bale_Shadowscar
Its not a bug. Its intentional. You will be able to max it during a later (Christmas Approx I think Gaile said; the same update which willbring the Elite Mission) update. Why not work on your Grandmaster Cartographer Title/Protector of Elona instead, hmmm?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10072893
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10072893
RoadKill97
He already has those and even R8 Lightbringer too!
Xunlai Master
Tried again with R7 outside Gates of Desolation and Crystal Outlook but it didn't work. I wasn't the leader this time, but didn't get to try with more than one person(below R7) in team.
Anyone found a way to earn points after R8?
Anyone found a way to earn points after R8?
ducktape
Anyone having trouble where the blessings give sunspear points but not double XP anymore? My friend and I were trying to level ourselves and our heroes and he complained it was taking so long because the XP was not doubled from the sunspear blessing. Leveling did seem to be taking forever, and I thought maybe the blessings giving double XP would work again if we rezoned, but it didn't help. We also restarted GW and logged in again and the blessings still did not give double XP.
The skale blessing should have been giving us 32 XP whenever we killed the level 15 skales, but instead it was only giving 16 XP, the same amount as if we did not have the blessing. Same with the insect blessing and level 15 nephilias or whatever the spiders are called.
The skale blessing should have been giving us 32 XP whenever we killed the level 15 skales, but instead it was only giving 16 XP, the same amount as if we did not have the blessing. Same with the insect blessing and level 15 nephilias or whatever the spiders are called.
Eli Rela
This is where you can get blessing for 1 Sunspear Point per insect killed:
Shrouded Waffle
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Originally Posted by Lord Mendes
well just went for a spearmarshal run and it took 80 minutes to gain 8k sunspear points with a party of 4 players and four hench. Once you get the location down and know exactly which four mobs 2 aggro, what to cast put on your heroes, how to play it, it is the easiest title to max ever.
I know this has been asked before, but would you mind sharing the location? I'm at a loss since the only place I can find is RIGHT outside of Gates and was wondering if there are any other areas that I can do this. Thanks.
ddark624
u can only farm in the arjok ward and places like that until u become sunspear castillian (8)
Fear Factor Extreme
How about finding a monster that resurrects other monsters that give sunspear points. Just wait for the Monk monster to rez others and keep killing them. Is that a good way to farm for Spearmarshal?
Lorinda
Read Fear's post and go meet your undead friends just outside the Waste lands were the worms are. I farm those things for points. They give you 7 a kill and they ress. If you do kill the hole group no worries there are 3 more running around that you can pull with a long bow.
Good luck. It will take a crap load of time.
Good luck. It will take a crap load of time.
Age
This is the one thing I don't like about Nightfall and Lightbringer points and what purpose does it serve.I like the way it was done in Factions way better.