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Sli Ander

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deep in Maguuma, by the Falls

Liberators of Agony

Mo/R

02 Nov 2006 at 11:09 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Silver Star

They have a life outside Guild Wars

In support of those saying Cartography is tough...I have about 94%(not quite) and I'm a casual player. I have less than 500 hours clocked in the last year.

That was all in between full time jobs, attempting to write a novel, training for the army, etc. I had 80% before they even came out with titles, so I think its mainly a mentality thing for those who chose to get it, not whether or not they have money(like other titles)or even time. Or a life outside the game.

But that's just my two cents

pingu666

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

guildhall

[DETH]

02 Nov 2006 at 11:09 - 42

what does require skill then?

sure, some missions are easy, but some are really hard. plus on most cantha missions u need a good group, and there against the clock, so u cant go off exploring if u want masters... so u gotta do each mission atleast twice..

i dont think theres been enough time availible to max out lucky/unlucky titles (plus it would cost ALOT)

wasnt possible to max skill hunter title until nightfall..

all 3 protector titles = 58 missions, plus some of the primary quests in cantha are hard too...

drunkard title max is like 120hours or something drunk..

treasure/wisdom is 10,000 high level items (each)

legendary survivor is reached by the equivilent of level 100

nightfall titles >
Note#2: Its not possible to reach the Spearmarshal Title, yet.
Note#1: Its not possible to reach the Conquering Commander Title, yet.

it takes considerable grinding and skill, the skill is probably different from pvp, but its still skill...

there is one curious title tho
Defender of Ascalon title track

You will earn the title Legendary Defender of Ascalon if you reach Level 20 prior to the destruction of Ascalon. Progress for this title is not shown until the player reaches level 14. (It is available at level 12 maybe earlier.)

Notes: Currently the only way known of getting from level 16 to level 20 is via a practice called Death Leveling. Death leveling involves leveling an opponent monster past or near your current level by allowing it to kill your character over and over. (There is no DP in Pre Searing.) Once the monster reaches an appropriate level (preferably one higher than yours) it can be killed for experience.

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

03 Nov 2006 at 08:49 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death3D

/notsigned

Emotes where the way to define time in HA. It was the only way to tell who was "ranked", wether rank means skill or just time in game these days is a matter of debate, no emotes are needed for pvp.

pve'ers complained that they never had anyway to tell who was "uber leet", and everyone knows /rank is useless outside of HA, so why do you care? Anet finally made all pve shutup by giving them titles to prove their "leetness". Now you want more? please. You got the titles that say just how "leet" you are that is enough.

You can say getting 180 fame is easier then the protector missions, and you deserve some regonition in a /emote for that, but honestly, how hard is getting all mission/bonus anyways? half the time you hench it. If you really want an emote that bad, go to HA and run vimway and get your 180 since its so easy.

As that is said, its on the same note that pvp creation dosnt need vanity items, thats the whole point of pve.

I can see you haven't tried getting the bonus on Thunderhead Keep, Dunes of despair in Tyria. Or Vizunah square / Nahpui Quarter in Cantha. I can tell you these are the more difficult Missions to get Master / Bonus on. As far for my "1337"nis I did do THK and Dundes of despair bonus with henchies and that is an accomplishment.

Btw Good way to promoto HA to leave us do VIMway to get fame

As Stated by Al other Replies. Koabd is a exclusive title to get for pve, and should be rewarded as such. In a crouded area nobody is going to see all the titles everybody has, but do see the "bambi" when is shown.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

03 Nov 2006 at 09:07 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Silver Star

They have a life outside Guild Wars

/notsigned

Its a nice idea but it is deffinately a Title that requires time and money only not skill.

Where have you got his impression that anyone with a max title has no life outside of GWs?

Yes i have max explorer on both tyria and Cantha, but the last I checked, id rather be out down the pub them exploring a computer game.

I dont spend hours on end playing guild wars to get titles. Maybe an hour or two a night if im not busy.

It tooks me months to get 100% on both, due to that.

But that doesnt mean the explorer titles (as part of the kind of a big deal title) arent worthy of being shown off with an emote.

They ARE hard titles to get. Im not saying its hard to hug a wall around every location, but there are certain locations which are VERY HARD to explore in both areas and take time and effort and dedicationg to get.

If your a warrior or a ranger, then fine, maybe it is easy. But as anything else, we dont have the luxory of running or warrior armor.

It also takes alot of effort in locating 100% maps and analysing them and comparing them to find where you have missed. That takes work outside of GWs using software to compare maps, and believe me when I say its extremely pain-staking.

When your at 99% and you cant find the last 1% and your having to strain your eyes analysing maps to find tiny differences, it can get frustrating.

But scough if you want at those of us with 100% on maps. It just shows we have dedication to exploring, unlike most others who laugh at it.

It also probably means we know all the locations you dont!!!

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

03 Nov 2006 at 09:16 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

When your at 99% and you cant find the last 1% and your having to strain your eyes analysing maps to find tiny differences, it can get frustrating.

What's even worse is when u are at 99.9% and can't get that 0.1%

And yeah it took me one week tot get from 99% tot 100% in tyria using a lot of photoshop for comparing

daky

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

03 Nov 2006 at 09:23 - 46

/signed

would be funny to have an emote for ale hounds. have them do a short drunk walk or stumble around for a few sec.

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

03 Nov 2006 at 10:01 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingu666

what does require skill then?

Well everything and nothing it depends on if u work for it, if you do work for it urself it requires some skill but if u "cheat" and get someone else to do the work for u (like Pling for Survivor etc., or getting run through missions with u having to do anything) then i takes no skill on your behave but it does require skill on your allys behalf, although some titles really dont require any skill Unless u achive it faster than most people like say managing to get the lucky title in record breaking time which still some would put to luck and others put to skill

ThunderStruck

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

03 Nov 2006 at 13:23 - 48

/signed, although you'll never see me use it, as I'll never make it to KOABD :P

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

03 Nov 2006 at 21:42 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelegendozelda

/sign

almost have 8 of 10, need something fancy for it

8-10 that's great

. I am half way on both prot and cat for 6/10.

stefan_moore

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/

03 Nov 2006 at 21:46 - 50

/signed i want a emote lol maybe would make me actauly try and get that last bit of exploration of catha and tyria to get 2 more titles closer

pingu666

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

guildhall

[DETH]

03 Nov 2006 at 22:53 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Well everything and nothing it depends on if u work for it, if you do work for it urself it requires some skill but if u "cheat" and get someone else to do the work for u (like Pling for Survivor etc., or getting run through missions with u having to do anything) then i takes no skill on your behave but it does require skill on your allys behalf, although some titles really dont require any skill Unless u achive it faster than most people like say managing to get the lucky title in record breaking time which still some would put to luck and others put to skill

i got my survivor title on assassin by careful questing, (didnt do captured son

) and when i got to the mainland i did quests from k center and marketplace to get me upto level 20. i mostly used a naga longbow twards the end

dispite me being a A/Me, still a reasonable achivement tho.

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

04 Nov 2006 at 00:05 - 52

^ lol I hear you. Sophitia Leafblade have you ever tried getting survivor on a sin.
It takes skill, and knowledge to avoid death. But still doing your sins job. Currently at 450K exp on my sin, and 0 deaths

, and that's all without paying anyone to plvl me.

skillsbas8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

04 Nov 2006 at 02:37 - 53

I agree. The Kind of a Big Deal title requires much more time and money than it requires skill. Emotes should be limited to PVP. Possibly add some bonus to people that have this title such as the bonus given to Treasure Hunters for the bonus % on salvaging. Keep emotes for PVP.

Eilsys

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

United States

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

Mo/Me

04 Nov 2006 at 02:57 - 54

Getting one million gold is hard, can I have an emote please, like a neon green $ that's about 2 times the size of the Lich?

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

04 Nov 2006 at 08:39 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eilsys

Getting one million gold is hard, can I have an emote please, like a neon green $ that's about 2 times the size of the Lich?

There's already a visual aspect to having 1mil + gold. It's called FOW armor

.

On a serious note. Still the Koabd Title track is the most prestige pve title track.
And getting koabd, or pkm should be rewarded as such.

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

14 Nov 2006 at 10:16 - 56

Well I finally made it.

And for people saying it's not hard at all, Getting the canthan + tyrian carto was a pain. And protector on Elona isn't a field trip either. So I still think People should be rewarded for getting this title.(Also gives a nice goal for other people who can't be bothered to get just a title ea replay value

)

The Silver Star

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK, Scotland

Il Guild Name Il

W/

14 Nov 2006 at 11:41 - 57

The title is the reward. The only reason that Emotes exist in PvP is because they were inpalced before the title system, and now will stay. It is just a title and the title is the reward for grinding.

/notsigned

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

14 Nov 2006 at 12:39 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Well everything and nothing it depends on if u work for it, if you do work for it urself it requires some skill but if u "cheat" and get someone else to do the work for u (like Pling for Survivor etc., or getting run through missions with u having to do anything) then i takes no skill on your behave but it does require skill on your allys behalf, although some titles really dont require any skill Unless u achive it faster than most people like say managing to get the lucky title in record breaking time which still some would put to luck and others put to skill

You cant cheat the explorer titles, thats why they are GOOD.

You only get the % if you actually go into that corner or this corner, or this section YOURSELF. So you CANT have it run for you. Even if you just follow someone, you would still be expected to fight or run.

Its something that you have to do for yourself either way.

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

14 Nov 2006 at 13:18 - 59

/signed

but what would the emote be? How bout going with the animal theme of other emotes you get a moa.

~the rat~

Sli Ander

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deep in Maguuma, by the Falls

Liberators of Agony

Mo/R

14 Nov 2006 at 18:14 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Requires 0 skill?

Have you tried exploring the region in DOD to the bottom right and the fort to the left?

Something for which you need a strong team with teleport, or a strong monk to keep the ghost alive while you explore. Something which is near impossible to do because AGAIN, either no one has the knowledge to understand about teleporting over the wall or they cant be bothered to help you.

It ISNT easy and it certainly does take alot more then 0 skill.

<<the monk. I have to go back time and again to DOD with henchies, because otherwise I'm expected to watch the ghostly. Being a monk does make it slightly easier in some areas(to hench), if you know what you're doing.

Anyway, on topic. Cartography is tough, Koabd tougher. it would be nice if koabd or People Know me, or whatever the max is would get some special emote besides the title. I don't know what it would be, but they should at least get a cookie for trying so hard.

But that's just my two cents.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

14 Nov 2006 at 20:09 - 61

/Unsigned. Reasons have already been posted above.

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

15 Nov 2006 at 01:02 - 62

I sort of agree, but also don't.
Seeing KoaBD is rare anyway. The only possible ways to get it are from PvE and alliance faction, since the PvP titles take an ungodly amount of play time to max out (nobody has reached max in either gladiator, champion, or hero yet.)
This means KoaBD is usually going to be character based. If I was going to get an emote for a great accomplishment, I would like to have it on all characters.

On the other hand, it is a big deal (no pun intended) to get those titles. You deserve something. I just have no idea what.

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

15 Nov 2006 at 02:12 - 63

/notsigned, mainly because I'm sick of all the fame spammers. Having the title is enough and if people don't notice it then who cares.

Here's a suggestion, how about just changing the color of the title text.

Loki Seiguro

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

IGN: Scarlet Test Ace

We play Isketch in [HoH]

E/

15 Nov 2006 at 02:21 - 64

<has KoBD

yep i want an emote lol

prefer an emote for LDoA title too - even harder and maybe even longer to get then KoBD

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

15 Nov 2006 at 06:02 - 65

pve needs special emotes too...even if I will probably never personally get those.

/signed

Sniper Corps

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Zero Mercy

R/Mo

15 Nov 2006 at 15:03 - 66

If we start adding new emotes, we gotta get an extra dance for classes. Hammertime on Ranger : D

But yea, Doing the KoaBD Title would seem to at least warrent a Small Emote. Something that gets your attention.

NesQik

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Poland

We Are From Poland

Mo/Me

11 Dec 2006 at 07:16 - 67

/notsigned

now i have 8 max lvl title, its easy to do KoaBD 3x protector and 2x cartografer - u do this when u do new campain whit no problem.
Emote shoud be only for pvp.

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

11 Dec 2006 at 08:00 - 68

/unsigned
I agree that the title itself is the reward.
HOWEVER...
I wish these PvP elitist idiots would stop denouncing the Protector and Cartography titles.
It takes a LOT more time and effort to get even one of these titles than it does to get your Bambi.
NOT everybody does Cartographer when they start a new campaign. And as has been stated, it can't be "Cheated".
NOT everybody bothers with Protector; some of the bonuses can be DAMN hard. Dunes of Despair, Eternal Grove and Gyala Hatchery spring to mind, especially if you're trying to do them with nothing but heroes and henchies.

If they're so bloody easy, post a screenshot of you doing the Dunes bonus with no humans in your team.
No?
Didn't think so.

necrosfeelyaks

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Error Seven Opperators [Call]

Mo/

07 Jan 2007 at 23:20 - 69

/not signed.... I do not like to award anything in PvE, because it encourages players to play a really boring part of the game..... I think that giving you this PvE title track, KoaBD, is extremely retarted and If I saw you with that title, I would not think any more highly of you, I would actually think less of you because you play way to much PvE

necrosfeelyaks

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Error Seven Opperators [Call]

Mo/

07 Jan 2007 at 23:23 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexus Icon

If they're so bloody easy, post a screenshot of you doing the Dunes bonus with no humans in your team.
No?
Didn't think so.

Why can't I do it with humans, GW is a team based game.... If you choose to do it by urself, more power to you, but why not play the game it was really ment to be played....

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

08 Jan 2007 at 00:48 - 71

/signed

I think its a good idea personally. I don't have KoaBD, but I might try if there was an emote, who knows?

Plus, I don't believe emotes should be only for PvP'ers, some might say it motavates PvP'ers to get higher in Fame....but so do the titles.

1 emote for PvP, 1 emote for PvE. It doesn't sound bad at all, I feel both sides should be equal. Anyone who says emotes are only for PvP is just closing their eyes, and saying that theres no way a PvE title could EVER have an emote.

I believe KoaBD and PKM deserve this, it takes alot of dedication, and should be rewarded. Of course, 99% of people do titles fairly, the others exploit glitches and/or pay their way for titles.

Almost all titles can be farmed, exploited or bought, including those in PvP, so don't use that excuse.

On the flipside, its pretty easy to get emotes for both PvP and PvE, so again, equal.

PvE and PvP should be equal in this area, and it would give people more of a motavation to actually get the KoaBD title track.

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

08 Jan 2007 at 01:37 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexus Icon

/unsigned
I agree that the title itself is the reward.
HOWEVER...
I wish these PvP elitist idiots would stop denouncing the Protector and Cartography titles.
It takes a LOT more time and effort to get even one of these titles than it does to get your Bambi.
NOT everybody does Cartographer when they start a new campaign. And as has been stated, it can't be "Cheated".
NOT everybody bothers with Protector; some of the bonuses can be DAMN hard. Dunes of Despair, Eternal Grove and Gyala Hatchery spring to mind, especially if you're trying to do them with nothing but heroes and henchies.

If they're so bloody easy, post a screenshot of you doing the Dunes bonus with no humans in your team.
No?
Didn't think so.

For the record I did Dunes of Despair Bonus with my warrior and Hencies (No there weren't any hero's then

). And yes Carto and Protector are still not easily Attainable.

Come on Anet. If your thinking about making international titles, and breaking up the skill hunter title. You should consider making emotes for PVE too

getalifebud

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/

08 Jan 2007 at 17:47 - 73

/signed

I'm thinking of glowing leatherbound books, decantuers of scotch and mahogany.

azathothx

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Cork, Ireland

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

R/P

08 Jan 2007 at 22:44 - 74

/signed

not much more to add but there's a 12 character limit now.

mikkel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

09 Jan 2007 at 01:37 - 75

/signed.

I don't see a single good reason not to have a PvE emote, but I'm sure a lot of the resistance to it is from PvP people clinging to their e-penises. If they get an emote for something as trivial as r3, KoaBD should definitely have one, too.

jenkinsbrucec

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

agies ascending

Mo/

09 Jan 2007 at 03:38 - 76

/ signed

I actually have this title; I can tell you that it takes much more time to get it then rank 3. Because I do not have a high rank like 9+ I do not know how long it takes but I can imagine it is up there with them. I would also like to see the people know me tier of this title to be account linked. I could not imagine getting that title on multiple characters. The titles that I maxed out are the 3 protectors the drunkard and the wisdom one. i think the wisdom one is even harder these days because of the chest update. I think the easiest way to get this title is to get all three protectors. the other 2 could be from either drunkard, by using the zoning trick or if u were lucky enough to do the afk farming on light bringer points. As for the second tier I think its gonna take a few more chapter for me to get. I think I could max out the lucky track in 2 more events but know telling how long that will take and I would like to max out the treasure hunter and skill hunter one if a-net ever lets us.

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

09 Jan 2007 at 03:42 - 77

emotes were made so people that can't read can ask the person to emote in their face instead of reading title.

/not signed

Oh and btw, KOBD might be hard, but trust me, even just r1 champion takes much more work and theres no emote for that.

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

09 Jan 2007 at 05:08 - 78

I'm kinda on the wall about this....

I've got lots of respect for those that earn any title....and they all have there easy way and there hard way to achieve.
If there were to be any emotes for pve KOBD would be the title track for it.

All things being equal....

Emotes really are of little value to me, the title itself tells of your accomplishment, however to put things in balance there could be some pve emotes tied to titles.

Either that or take out the emotes for pvp all together as they nolonger serve an use, if you want a R9 pvp player, just look at his title, no need for any emote imho.

Total Rogue

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

California

Team Love [kiSu]

W/

09 Jan 2007 at 05:57 - 79

/notsigned

I'd rather keep the emotes for accountwide titles.

mikkel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

09 Jan 2007 at 08:47 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Ultimatum

Oh and btw, KOBD might be hard, but trust me, even just r1 champion takes much more work and theres no emote for that.

Giving emotes for branching titles like GvG and hero battles would be overkill. Fame titles are fine, 'cause fame is something everyone's likely to have a bit of going though PvP. Similarly, everyone playing PvE is likely to max a title or two if they play through the entire chapter, so I'd say it's an appropriate title to have an emote associated with.