Petition: Emote for "Kind of a big deal" title track - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

11 Jan 2007 at 09:45 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Nui

Sure, you can ebay money for PVE titles, but you can't 'cheat' your way to holding the hall of heroes.

Wanna Bet? You can exploit HoH just as much as anywhere,you can Fame Farm with a FOTM build that requires no actual skill, you can pay others to battle for u, you can exploit any bugs that occasionally pop up. You can make a build thats designed just to annoy the other team until they leave. Perhaps you cant always 'cheat' to a holding level but u can still cheat enough to gain you fame.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sword

You can do koabd in a week easily, protectors are a joke and then u just have to run around corners of maps for 2 cartographers or do others.

hahahah, thanks, i dont think ive laughed that hard for ages. Theres no physical way of getting KoaBD in a week, not even if you play 24/7 for the whole week, there physically isnt enough time. Sounds like you clearly have never attempted it getting the title.

Once again basically the majority (no that doesnt mean everyone) of PvErs like the the majority of PvPrs dont, and the reason being PvPrs dont want to lose there prestige, ie there being better than everyone else. However i would agree the best way to keep things more equal would be to enable PvP'rs to unlock 15k armours for very large amounts of faction and to allow Pvers to have an title set that has an emote (aka KoaBD),

ericdanie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Tribo dos Reis [TdR]

R/

11 Jan 2007 at 17:08 - 122

KOBD deserves an emote because it is better than the other PvE titles, one maxes PvE titles in order to get KOBD so it is indeed a title BETTER than the others. That's why it deserves an emote.

Currently I don't see why the Hero title still has an emote linked to it. It's based on HA, and there are now titles linked to every PvP mode, which have a similar LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG progression.

/signed

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

15 Jan 2007 at 14:57 - 123

/signed

PvP players get emotes even at a low levels starting with the deer. The emote is a large display that is easily seen in towns that people show off with much pride. Personally I don't think that they (PvPers) deserve an emote until they get higher ranking like the dragon and phoenix....but if they get one, I believe us PvE players deserve one as well for one of our titles.

I believe that title should be Kind of a Big Deal because it is completely game related for the most part. Those who get it completely mapped EVERY area that Anet took the time to make and finished every mission and bonus that they developed. This title is earned by completing 5 other titles. This is definately a title one should be proud of and if they just want to show off this accomplishment a bit more with an emote, I am all for it! That small little title under ones name just does not cut it for this title IMHO.

Furthermore, I would love to see a title for someone that finishes all the QUESTS in each game. This would be another major accomplishment for a PvE person and deserves to go towards the Kind of a Big Deal title as well.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

15 Jan 2007 at 15:33 - 124

I like the idea as well - it's extremely easy NOT to notice a title, which requires that you click on a person in town to see it. This would give PvE players a bit more incentive to complete all 3 campaigns...

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

15 Jan 2007 at 18:41 - 125

/signed.

Emotes for koabd title track would be nice, they take a lot of time and effort to get.

Im completely stuck at 96% exploration of tyria and can imagine what people with 100% put themselves through. A lot more then IWAY'ing for a bambi/wolf/tiger.

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

16 Jan 2007 at 10:08 - 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akhilleus

/notsigned.
why?
redundant.
the whole point of the title is to display some level of achievement; why create an emote for it as well?
keep in mind that the rank emotes were initiated before titles, and were effectivly the only way to tell (appx) what rank someone was.
whats next; an emote for having a certain amount of other emotes unlocked?
no thanks.

That's why I said it could also something else then a pet Emote. Just some "visual" Recognition. And I still think it would be best to link it to the gods. Favor, UW, FOW and Dervish forms are related to the gods, and this title track should be too. For instance:

5 titles Kind of a big Deal (1): Shrouded in the cold ooze of Grenth.
10 titles People Know Me (2): Engulfed in the Flames of Balthazar.
15 titles I farm to many titles (3): Wings of dwayana.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

16 Jan 2007 at 15:21 - 127

KOABD should definitely have an emote but not at the expense of other PVE titles who also deserve emotes too.

Namely, the max Lux and Kurz faction titles and any 100% explored title, all of which should have their own distinct emote too.

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

16 Jan 2007 at 15:30 - 128

guess what? want an emote? go to HA.
want the "elite" kotb title? go do some stuff or whatever.

im tired of pve'ers trying to justify an emote, they GAVE YOU titles. stop crying and whining for more.

Rusoswirgs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Costa Rica

Dying Wish

W/E

16 Jan 2007 at 17:51 - 129

/agree
Im a full PvEr, of my 8 characters all of em are PvE, and i dont think i made more than 50 PvP battles becuase i just dont freacking like em. My war is at 1 tittle of the KoaBD tittle, it is the main reason why i started maxing tittles, and some people would say being a protector or a GMC is easy, then why dont u just do it? because u dont like PvE as i dont like PvP? i personally think that PvP animations are nice and thy are worth the time players spend on em, so why cant PvE tittles have their own type of animation? we spend the same or more amount of time playing as u guys do. The tittles are a nice add to the game, thy make people work harder to achieve a higher rank of skill, and when i see a KoaBD guy i say this guy knows what his doing and he has my respect for being one, becuase i know how hard it is. SO for it there should some kind of compensation for breaking your ass, and its not like we are asking an emote for every tittle maxed, so stop crying PvPers because u got ur sissy dear a while ago and u still have it for being only rank 3, RANK 3?! is even harder to be level 1 of chest opening. Or even great, why dont thy make halls or type of hall where only people with maxed tittles can enter, now thats a huge motivation. where merchs sell cheaper or anything like that, im sure itll be the new chat spot for people just like grotto. Just sharing and idea i had in time for a while, peace.

Definite Integral

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

[FHSR]

R/Mo

16 Jan 2007 at 20:59 - 130

/not signed

I can just imagine the elitism,"show us your KOABD emote or you're kicked out"
I hate the title system, and the rank system.

KiyaKoreena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

N/

21 Jan 2007 at 00:11 - 131

/signed for some sort of emote/visual recognition

I've worked bloody hard to get this title and would love something pretty to show off for it. It will take me years to earn some of the other ones. For naysayers who complain it would big towns down too much; A bunch of shiny disco balls dont do that? Please.

What I think would be nice:

KOABD: You get a small little effect. Example: When you clap or raise your hands a small little burst of fireworks go off.

PKM: A sustained effect that you can walk around with <i>similar</i> to divine aura. Trigger it and it lasts for a minute.

Next level: A sustained effect that when triggered causes an aura similar to bosses, lasts a few minutes.

stuntharley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Critical Chop [cC]

W/

21 Jan 2007 at 00:14 - 132

/not signed

If you want an emote, go do HA.

If you can't then just PUG SF groups untill rank 3, is that really hard?

Thats how I got from rank 2-3 when SF came out I just used SF non-ranekd groups. Got there in a few days, now I run balanced.

Emote's should only be for pvp to show how good you are.

There is no skill in PvE, 90% of builds work

Vykhos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Prestigious Finale [Fin]

R/Mo

21 Jan 2007 at 00:39 - 133

Not signed, want emotes? Go HA like everyone else.

Guild Terror

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

21 Jan 2007 at 00:57 - 134

/NOTSIGNED!!!

how can some of you say no to pve armor in pvp as rewards... yet say pve can have emotes? pve gets armors, pvp gets emotes, deal with it

Vel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

21 Jan 2007 at 04:06 - 135

/signed (in capital letters)

I want different kind of emotes tho. Not bambis, wolves or tigers...something else but nifty and jazzy. it is NOT fair that only PvPers getting something glowing that PvE players will never get. I am not whining, I do have glowing emote and it ain't bambi.

- Vel

Maximumraver

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

Twisted Revenge [TR]

E/

21 Jan 2007 at 06:04 - 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Terror

/NOTSIGNED!!!

how can some of you say no to pve armor in pvp as rewards... yet say pve can have emotes? pve gets armors, pvp gets emotes, deal with it

/notsigned

Same reason, and more emotes would just get annoying, emotes are for pvp

tmarosi

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Croatia

Croatian Maniacs [CM]

Mo/

21 Jan 2007 at 10:53 - 137

/signed

even in PvP you will sometime get KoaBD and you will too get emotion

jaymat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lack of Talent [Luck]

21 Jan 2007 at 14:22 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuntharley

/not signed

If you want an emote, go do HA.

If you can't then just PUG SF groups untill rank 3, is that really hard?

Thats how I got from rank 2-3 when SF came out I just used SF non-ranekd groups. Got there in a few days, now I run balanced.

Emote's should only be for pvp to show how good you are.

There is no skill in PvE, 90% of builds work

theres no skill in sf either

treehugger93

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Belfast, Northern Ireland

Aura of Mesmeration

W/R

21 Jan 2007 at 22:35 - 139

/signed
I want a /playdead emote, u just sorta lie on the ground breathin deeply lol

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

16 Feb 2007 at 20:06 - 140

/signed and think gladiator and champion deserve titles too

Zeddicus Tam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

USA

Fading Twilight [dusk]

Mo/Me

16 Feb 2007 at 20:20 - 141

So I take it that a lot of people are using /dance, /laugh, /point, etc. in PvP? Afterall, emotes are only for PvP, right?

I like this idea. It takes a lot of work to get these titles and it would be nice to have something other than a few works under your name.

/signed

ThisIsNi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

W/E

17 Feb 2007 at 04:19 - 142

/signed...

If I ever got that( not going to happen) i would like something especially cool for it...

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

17 Feb 2007 at 11:32 - 143

/notsigned.

This will just increase elitism. You'l see people in outposts saying 'Ha ha I got this while you only got bambi'.

The title is recognisable enough.

Ilithis Mithilander

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Testing Eternity

E/

13 Mar 2007 at 23:44 - 144

Pve needs some way to show their obsessiveness amoung other players, like pvp does with /rank

/signed

Winter Nightsong

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

Among The Stars

N/

20 Mar 2007 at 16:54 - 145

/signed

I've worked incredibly hard on my PVE characters and I have to say that yes, I would LOVE an "S" on my characters chest (figuratively speaking). Emotes are definitely needed for PVE. You have my vote!

And as for all of you that say there is no skill involved in PVE, I would like to point out IWAY Teams, Ranger Spike Teams, Air Spikers, and the rest on down the line. It is YOU people that get skills nerfed, because 1 or 2 actually talented players come up with a clever build design and then ALL of you jump on the bandwagon and beat it to death until A-Net finally has to wave their collective wands and stop the madness. Would all of you super fantastic ranked HA players like to know what runs through a PVE players head when we see your emote? I immediately think, oh, another Iway Noob. However, if I saw a PVE emote for maxing out 5 titles? yeah, I would be impressed.
So don't suggest to me that if I want an emote I need to "HA like everyone else". I'm too busy actually PLAYING the game.

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

20 Mar 2007 at 18:43 - 146

The "emotes are for pvp" thing is really annoying. There's only one title that bears an emote, and it happens to be a pvp title; no other pvp title grants an emote. Why does that make emotes pvp-only?

On the one hand, I really, really dislike people who spam their wolves and tigers in pve outposts and then call me a n00b for not letting them in my group. I really wouldn't want to see more emote spamming. On the other hand , it does seem fair to give the max PvE title an emote. Of course, it's not like Rank is the max PvP title anymore; champion should definitely get an emote (and a fix so it's mildly obtainable...)

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

20 Mar 2007 at 20:44 - 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilithis Mithilander

Pve needs some way to show their obsessiveness amoung other players, like pvp does with /rank

/signed

What do you call unique skins and armour?

Strange Guy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

MI, USA

Is Gwen Eighteen [yet]

Mo/Me

20 Mar 2007 at 21:30 - 148

/notsign

1. Lower the value of Heroes's Ascent!
2. How can you set this? /Rankbigkind? Is this a rank or some sort of competition?
3. More and more max tittle are out there that is way too easy to get such as drunk/sweet tooth/ protectors tittle. Just need money and max out those are just a piece of cake!
4. What will this show? Show that you spend tons of time for a tittle? Or is it show how exp you are in PvE? I'm not sure about this!
5. What kind of visual emote can this be? A drunking guy appear and die? Or a little girl come out with a candy cane on her hand? Or a guy coming out and go afk then disappear (Lucky)? Or this can be a bunny come out with the map on its hand? Oh or maybe a bunny with a candy cane, drunking or some sort! Really dunno how can this be!

Not A Fifty Five

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Creating guild

Mo/

20 Mar 2007 at 21:50 - 149

/signed

But more importantly, emotes for gladiator and champion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially champion FFS, guild wars is about guild battles!

And.. anet would not even have to do much work:

Current deer =rank 3... Blue deer = gladiator 3, red deer = champion 3, black deer = KOABD 3

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

20 Mar 2007 at 22:43 - 150

/signed for the OP
Koabt is a hard to get title. And not all of us play PvP, its one aspect of the game and not the most important one. So yeah i am a few titles away still but i would like to have an emote.

no deer head though.

maybe a beam of light from the heavens that shines down on you like a spotlight.

~the rat~

Charlotte the Harlot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Bay Area

none

R/

14 May 2007 at 05:44 - 151

pvpers and pvers should have to drink from different water fountains too..jeez its the same game let everybody have fun with it. Will a person with koabd enjoying themselves with an emote really make the game less enjoyable for you? unless you're a real asshole then no.

About the kind of a big deal is increasingly easier to get argument there would be dif emotes per rank in it so its just like deer being easy to get but tiger being a real acomplishment but instead Koabd being the deer im very important being the tiger of this situation.

Doesnt need to be an emote although one would be cool even a special type of cape or unique armor piece etc. would be fine.

/signed

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

14 May 2007 at 08:00 - 152

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashleigh McMahon

/notsigned.

This will just increase elitism. You'l see people in outposts saying 'Ha ha I got this while you only got bambi'.

The title is recognisable enough.

I accept with that.
Btw since hard mode KoaBD is easy to get... Keep emotes for PvP, /notsigned

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

14 May 2007 at 08:03 - 153

I was originally signed for this idea, because the KOABD title was rare. I would be lucky to see 1 every 2 weeks, or 1 a month other then myself. I was kind of fun to see another one and bow to one another.

But since the Hard Mode was added and the new titles, the number of KOABDs has increased HUGELY. You see one in nearly every town or outpost you travel too. Thats about 5 a day for the last 2 or 3 weeks.

And you see PKM, all over the place too.

This idea was better when the title(s) were harder to achieve, and it was something to be proud of. Now its absolutely easy to get KOABD, PKN and rest.

The title has lost its charm, and I dont think emotes are needed for it. Emotes should be restricted to hard titles, and unfortunately KOABD isnt a hard title to get anymore.

But its kind of a double edged sword. I love the new titles, but its devalued KOABD immensely.

Amon Warrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

14 May 2007 at 10:01 - 154

/signed

Because PVE is a different component of the game and, for the sake of balance, players should be able to attain a very neat bonus for something that is not as simple to get.

It rewards your effort in an unequivocal way. Much like the effort you make to get the PVP animal emotes. And it doesn't have to be an animal theme; another one could be in place, maybe related to the character's profession.

Aggravaar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

14 May 2007 at 11:02 - 155

/not signed

Most PVErs have their one 'main char' that has the nicest equipment, the best-looking armour set(s), usually the most PVE titles etc. It's natural that they want to be rewarded in some more, err, impressive manner than a simple title.

KoaBD is time consuming and often requires quite a lot of skill. There are players who got their bambi (or wolf, or sometimes even tiger) by almost mindlessly playing the very same build over and over again, and they would stand no chance against a tricky pve bonus/masters. Hell, I got my bambi long before could finish any hi-end-ish bonus (yup, I'm pve/pvp).

Another thing: I doubt the people who work on 'bells and whistles' (CG artists, animators etc) are the same people that manage the skill balancing. It's also kinda hypocritical to say things like "Anet shouldn't work on [something that is, in my personal opinion, useless, and enjoyed by people who like other aspects of the game, who should not be treated seriously, cause they're them and I'm me] and, instead, should concentrate on [something I like and is, therefore, what GW really needs]". Your needs are important but not more important than the needs of other players.

Above are all the reasons I did NOT consider when I was typing “/not signed”.

The only reason I did consider is this: PVE – cool looking armour and weapons. PVP characters pale in comparison. Let the PVEs show off with their outlook, and the PVPs with their emotes (more pvp emotes!). That sounds fair.

Maybe give the KoaBD bearers some festival hat or something like a book of secrets they could exchange for a cool looking weapon (customized by default). Just a thought.

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

14 May 2007 at 12:38 - 156

Interesting idea, and when it started certainly a good one, but now? not so sure, with the introduction of hard mode i shot up from 6 maxed titles to 9, and now i have 11, Maybe a emote would be nice but not sure it would be fair now,
I would like an emote for more of the pvp, titles, they take ages and a lot of skill and luck too, maybe an emote for legendary titles, or for when you max the KOABD line altogether

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

14 May 2007 at 12:49 - 157

Quote:

Btw since hard mode KoaBD is easy to get... Keep emotes for PvP, /notsigned

I would also say that, except that now PvPers are getting PvE skins, so why shouldn't PvEers get something from them?

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

14 May 2007 at 13:20 - 158

/Not signed.
Remove titles. Remove emotes.
Let's stop grindfest and reward skill.
Your IGN should be your only title.

azrael-angel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sword Of Justice

W/N

14 May 2007 at 13:58 - 159

/not signed

koabd titles are for PvE grinders with far too much time on there hands, running around with heroes and henchmen.

getting 3 max cartographers takes no effort what so ever, i know this because iv done it.

people who say "o r3 takes no time to get" that may be so, but it still requires more effort, playing with other people and trying to get a decent team, and playing well in a "group", not alone with henchmen.

lastly, PvP emotes are designed to get people to play HA more, as its harder tog et players in that area, PvE doesn't have that problem, with thousands of players joining all the time, and tbh, PvE gets enough crap as it is, if anything deserves some good old TLC its PvP.

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

14 May 2007 at 14:11 - 160

/signed

It's a nice suggestion, but the emote can't be anything cool. The one that springs to my mind is briefly becoming Ron Burgundy, but you'd probably have copyright infringement there.

Maybe doing the emote could make your character say "I love . . . carpet. I love lamp!"