Locked out of end game content, again. Will ANet ever respond?

You could've saved yourself a lot of typing and just said: "You're right, Gli, and I was wrong. There isn't a game mechanism that allows you to earn acces for yourself." Because that's what the above paragraphs boils down to.

Guild Wars has always been (and still is) a game you play with a maximum of 12 (and rarely that much, usually no more than 8) players. If you can't play together with more than 11 (7) others, why are there mechanisms in place that require you rely on 999 others, 992 of whom you can't even interact with in a meaningful manner while playing? Whoever thought of that idea shouldn't be working in the gaming industry. Seriously.


It's not a MMORPG. It's a game you play with a tiny group of players. Don't let the outposts with hundreds of people running around fool you, those are just glorified chat rooms. When you're out playing, you're playing a tiny scaled game. Much like Diablo II, nothing like a MMORPG.

Yes, groups of 8, sometimes even 12.

I'm not cutting myself off from the group mechanism, I practically always play with other players. In small groups, while other people are playing in their own small groups.

You're really stretching now. I never said I didn't like the other people in the game, I just don't much care about them either way. I do like to have a choice who I play with. I bet you do too. My choices just appear to be a bit more limiting than yours. Or do you really accept every random invite that comes your way?

This social aspect you keep bringing up, you're totally overstating it. It's not strong at all. It's weak to the point of not existing at all. Every part of the whole game, and I mean the WHOLE game, except this tiny teeny little mechanism that decides who gets to play the elite missions, can be enjoyed with just a small circle of friends. That's why me and my guild are still here after one and a half years. It's a game that doesn't (didn't) require us to extend our circle into the faceless masses of the internet.

This is why the Factions elite access system is so incredibly flawed. It goes against everything Guild Wars used to stand, and still mostly stands for.

No, I (we) haven't cut ourselves off from anything. After a year of playing 'our' way, and being able to play every aspect of the game we cared to play, Factions hit the stores, and alienated us and countless players like us, by adding a metagame driven content-access mechanism, where there previously hadn't been anything like it before. We didn't cut ourselves off from anything, we we're never connected, and that worked out just fine.

I'd like to think the problem lies with ANet being too hung up to realize that they made a big booboo with the Factions elite missions.

Hey. Posting such hostility after admitting not to have even read the thread... Not cool, dude.

Let me make this clear. No one--I mean, no one--is saying they want everything for free, easy, immediate, perfect and one click away. Those who did, were being facetious.

Re-read and respond to real posts, not your fantasy of what this thread is about. Mkthxbai.

The whole control thing is retarded. Why? Because all it takes to get faction is time; time to run that particular quest over and over again to farm faction, or jump into a half-assed grind in Alliance Battles. The whole system is pointless, unrewarding, takes time over skill, and overall, results in very little merit for the victor.

All achievements degenerate into: "oh great, your alliance has more bored idiots to farm faction than our alliance! Congratulations!"

The Ferry system is also broken and retarded. It's a pointless system that results in chores, whines, and complaints with very little merit to the system.

Here are my proposed suggestions:

- Ownership of the towns should be rewarded by serious, competitive play. The top 10 kurzick/luxon guilds (and their alliance) from the end of a particular season should be granted ownage of the Kurzick/luxon towns through the end of the next season. Top 2 kurz/lux guilds would own cavalon/house, etc. If a guild disbands while they own a town, the ownership is transferred to the next runner's up.

- There should be an automated system and a set-in-stone fee for accessing The Deep and Urgoz, maybe 1k per party. The gold would be collected by an NPC, much like the UW and FoW. This gold is "sunk" and doesn't go anywhere.

This is a much more robust system because:

1. It rewards SKILL instead of farming a particular quest over and over again
2. It makes the mission accessable to EVERYONE willing to pay for access
3. It gives the alliance owning the town exactly what they want: recognition and fame.

If you say so Gli. your logic and your arguments seem to be all hung up on you being right. So fine you're right. Anet screwed something up . Cry about it some more. I'm done arguing with you except on one point. You say you never cut yourself off. I believe your exact words were that you didn't give a "flying toss" about anyone else. You did alienate yourself and now you're back peddling. Whatever though Gli. You're right. That's what you want to hear. Now you can go cry about some other part of the game you don't like.

/done

Classy way to end a discussion you can't win. My arguments aren't 'hung up on me being right', they are right, and you know it. If they weren't you'd be able to counter them wouldn't you?

And not giving a flying toss about all the faceless internet people doesn't mean I cut myself off from anything. To cut yourself off from something, you'd have to have been connected in the first place. I never was connected to any of them. I didn't alienate myself, because to alienate oneself implies one was once part of something. Not me.

More classy yet, a generalization about me that doesn't make any sense at all.

Oh, and 'cry'? You've got that broken record thing going on again. Get it fixed.