Players feel the need to build their heros so its gone past what would be a choice for those who might _want_ to solo and is almost encouraging less cooperative play.
I can understand what the other poster means, when heros try avoid attacks they run and agro every other group in the vacinity, flagged or not.
I would of prefered to see henches with flaging and skills than the collectable lvlable Hero system. I think it was poorly thought out.
Dev Update: Ranks & Elite Mission
Nemon
aegis66
This is really outrageous.
No problem with the fact that you, Gaile, you come here and tell us that there's no elite mission in the game yet even if it was annonced a long time ago and even the game manual mention it. That's honest to tell the truth.
The thing that make me angry is that you dare tell us that the dev are working on an update, just for us, as if you where doing this as a plus, as if it was a present from you to us. This is indeed not the case, the elite mission was supposed to be part of the game AT RELEASE.
Nightfall is a really great game and i'm enjoying it a lot. But i'm starting to really doubt of arena's capacity to make it live much longer with such a behavior.
PS : Excuse my bad english please, it's not my primary language.
No problem with the fact that you, Gaile, you come here and tell us that there's no elite mission in the game yet even if it was annonced a long time ago and even the game manual mention it. That's honest to tell the truth.
The thing that make me angry is that you dare tell us that the dev are working on an update, just for us, as if you where doing this as a plus, as if it was a present from you to us. This is indeed not the case, the elite mission was supposed to be part of the game AT RELEASE.
Nightfall is a really great game and i'm enjoying it a lot. But i'm starting to really doubt of arena's capacity to make it live much longer with such a behavior.
PS : Excuse my bad english please, it's not my primary language.
The Great Al
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This is really outrageous.
No problem with the fact that you, Gaile, you come here and tell us that there's no elite mission in the game yet even if it was annonced a long time ago and even the game manual mention it. That's honest to tell the truth. The thing that make me angry is that you dare tell us that the dev are working on an update, just for us, as if you where doing this as a plus, as if it was a present from you to us. This is indeed not the case, the elite mission was supposed to be part of the game AT RELEASE. Nightfall is a really great game and i'm enjoying it a lot. But i'm starting to really doubt of arena's capacity to make it live much longer with such a behavior. PS : Excuse my bad english please, it's not my primary language. |
Sooty
My 2 cents:
Based on what I read in the manual, as well as previews which mentioned both challenge and elite missions (where could they have gotten that idea from if not from the developers?), I was certain there was an elite mission in nightfall. So much so that I spent a good couple of hours looking for it after finishing the game.
If you make a decision not to include it, that's totally fair enough and up to you guys but letting us know AFTER the game's release leaves a slightly sour taste in my mouth (mixed in with all that tasty goodness from nightfall overall).
I love nightfall, it's a great game and 'added features' are very welcome and appreciated. Maybe it was intended that elites be part of the game from release all along and then the devs ran out of time? If so that's okay, we understand but maybe just let us know a little earlier for campaign 4 and beyond and there'll be less sour grapes from everyone.
Based on what I read in the manual, as well as previews which mentioned both challenge and elite missions (where could they have gotten that idea from if not from the developers?), I was certain there was an elite mission in nightfall. So much so that I spent a good couple of hours looking for it after finishing the game.
If you make a decision not to include it, that's totally fair enough and up to you guys but letting us know AFTER the game's release leaves a slightly sour taste in my mouth (mixed in with all that tasty goodness from nightfall overall).
I love nightfall, it's a great game and 'added features' are very welcome and appreciated. Maybe it was intended that elites be part of the game from release all along and then the devs ran out of time? If so that's okay, we understand but maybe just let us know a little earlier for campaign 4 and beyond and there'll be less sour grapes from everyone.
natuxatu
Gaile is passing along information... if she said it would be added in the future sorry about the delay or anything to that effect. People would still complain. Not to mention no matter how she says something isn't going to change the facts of what is really going to happen. She works for the company what do you expect? she's doing her job. I find it extremely nice she takes the time to post here as much as she does when (while it may be in her job description) they don't need to have this job in the first place.
Bottom line, people are extremely rude to someone who is giving us information that we wouldn't get elsewhere or this soon at the least.
And allow me to point out that the elite mission is not there at this moment so they don't have to put it in there period. So this free update (call it what you want) is a free update nontheless. And that's something to be happy about unless you don't want it at all in which case you don't have to go there. That's all.
(Yes I know people are angry, and have a right to be, but I think you're taking it out on the wrong person.)
Bottom line, people are extremely rude to someone who is giving us information that we wouldn't get elsewhere or this soon at the least.
And allow me to point out that the elite mission is not there at this moment so they don't have to put it in there period. So this free update (call it what you want) is a free update nontheless. And that's something to be happy about unless you don't want it at all in which case you don't have to go there. That's all.
(Yes I know people are angry, and have a right to be, but I think you're taking it out on the wrong person.)
kalstrand
I don't have a problem waiting a few months for an elite mission but I do have a problem with it being called a free update when it appears it was intended to be part of the game the entire time. A free update should be content added beyond what was advertised such as SF.
I don't have lots of time to play so it wouldn't bother me to slow the release date to have the game finished before release. I have only managed to finish both Prophesies and Factions with 2 characters and would like to be able to finish all the chapters with one character of each class so the 6 month time frame is a little faster than I would like.
I also would like to see the Factions elite missions opened to the public. I was able to attempt the Deep a couple times and managed to finish it once during the public weekend and found it to be great fun, but as it stands now I first have to get a ferry then only find out that there isn't anyone in the staging area. I think if they were opened to the public they would see more play.
I don't have lots of time to play so it wouldn't bother me to slow the release date to have the game finished before release. I have only managed to finish both Prophesies and Factions with 2 characters and would like to be able to finish all the chapters with one character of each class so the 6 month time frame is a little faster than I would like.
I also would like to see the Factions elite missions opened to the public. I was able to attempt the Deep a couple times and managed to finish it once during the public weekend and found it to be great fun, but as it stands now I first have to get a ferry then only find out that there isn't anyone in the staging area. I think if they were opened to the public they would see more play.
Sooty
I think there are two factions at work here, those who have an issue and are raising their concerns, and those who have an issue and are taking it out on gaile. The latter group isn't doing anyone any favours but that doesn't make the concerns of the former less valid imo.
Exoudeous
So instead of getting a finished game, we get a game missing an advertised area, which will now be rushed and made smaller then it would have been cause they want to rush and get a different game set to release in a year, which will probably be short on content also.
trialist
Although i personally don't care about the titles all that much, you guys are really missing the point. The point isn't whether you are able to get the sunspear title now through an exploit/creative method or later through the "intended route". It is how are you able to get the title later as compared to the "leave ai monks and carry on farming" method being used.
How direct is the "intended route"? What hoops will you have to jump through to get to that title? How much more (or less) of a grindfest is it going to be when compared to just farming monsters while leaving their monks? Those are the real questions that should have been asked.
How direct is the "intended route"? What hoops will you have to jump through to get to that title? How much more (or less) of a grindfest is it going to be when compared to just farming monsters while leaving their monks? Those are the real questions that should have been asked.
skretth
the area was not advertised, also if u take note of the wording it doesnt say teh elite area IS in there, it DOES say
You'll see them in nightfall aswell.
not they ARE in nightfall.. you WILL see them.
hell i got my character though the game, got my r8 sspear got my r6 lb.. what to do now? bring my next character through the game.. if its not out by then, bring anouther character though, then another..
if by the time i have brought all 10 characters though the game and it still isnt here, THEN i might complain.. but seriously guys... 1 week.. if you have done everything u can that is fun in 1 week, and all u want to do for 5 months is farm teh elite mission.. then go get a diff game seriously.
You'll see them in nightfall aswell.
not they ARE in nightfall.. you WILL see them.
hell i got my character though the game, got my r8 sspear got my r6 lb.. what to do now? bring my next character through the game.. if its not out by then, bring anouther character though, then another..
if by the time i have brought all 10 characters though the game and it still isnt here, THEN i might complain.. but seriously guys... 1 week.. if you have done everything u can that is fun in 1 week, and all u want to do for 5 months is farm teh elite mission.. then go get a diff game seriously.
Sid Doog
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It's a title. People are acting like the whole game was a failure because you can't grind a FREAKING TITLE.
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prism2525
At least there's one advantage of not having nightfall yet (damned postman, where are you??), i can start thinking on how to get a rank 9+ sunspear level.
Oh I hope my NF arrives today...
Oh I hope my NF arrives today...
Skids
Gaile: In your initial post here (or maybe the 2nd or 3rd one - its too far back now to check) you alluded to "something special" in the next few months. Would that by any chance refer to a Christmas Gift Minipet? 
I was thinking along the lines of a mini Rudolph lol. Or maybe a deer of some sort, which would fit in with the NF theme.
If the above doesnt look viable, how about a mini Santa lmao. Yo Ho Ho!!
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As for the Elite mission thing, to my mind it seems that people rush through the game, not getting the full experience of it all like the scenery, buildings, effects, enemy detailing, etc and on completion are perhaps unsatisfied by the game & look for more. This cant be Anets fault. As countless people have said, this chapter is truly the best do far. For those that have finished and say theres nothing more to do, how about trying to get your other characters through eh? Take it a bit slower this time and savour it.
Imho we have paid a bloody good price for a bloody good game that is continually being supported and developed further. Sure, there are things people wont like - you cant please everyone - but Gaile has said that an Elite mission type area will be an update so stop harking on about it.
I just hope its not one that a] needs a taxi, b] is 3+ hours long or c] you need to pay to enter.
I was thinking along the lines of a mini Rudolph lol. Or maybe a deer of some sort, which would fit in with the NF theme.
If the above doesnt look viable, how about a mini Santa lmao. Yo Ho Ho!!
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As for the Elite mission thing, to my mind it seems that people rush through the game, not getting the full experience of it all like the scenery, buildings, effects, enemy detailing, etc and on completion are perhaps unsatisfied by the game & look for more. This cant be Anets fault. As countless people have said, this chapter is truly the best do far. For those that have finished and say theres nothing more to do, how about trying to get your other characters through eh? Take it a bit slower this time and savour it.
Imho we have paid a bloody good price for a bloody good game that is continually being supported and developed further. Sure, there are things people wont like - you cant please everyone - but Gaile has said that an Elite mission type area will be an update so stop harking on about it.
I just hope its not one that a] needs a taxi, b] is 3+ hours long or c] you need to pay to enter.
Traveller
Rather than the elite mission, I'm more interested of Razah. One could deduct from Gaile's comments, that he indeed is hidden somewhere in the game, but then again, one could also deduct that he's yet to be added via some free update (or just scratched from the game altogether) And currently, I have no idea on what to do to find him.
NagaSurayami
Razah + Elite Mission. So I have paid for something that I did not receive, instead its being added as a free update.
Not very impressed. Especially when trying to make it sound like you are doing us a favor when the contents should have been here from the start.
Not very impressed. Especially when trying to make it sound like you are doing us a favor when the contents should have been here from the start.
arcanemacabre
Time for the car analogy:
"Hey, check ot our new model sports car, the Nightfall! It's got a V6, 200 horsepower, anti-lock brakes, power windows, locks and mirrors, all the best features."
You drive it home and find out there's no power windows. You call the company - no answer. You call a few more times - no answer. Finally, announced on the radio, "For all you who bought a 2006 Nightfall, we have amazing news! Coming soon, a free upgrade - Power Windows! Isn't that fantastic!? Just give us a couple of months and we'll hook ya right up!"
...yeah, fantastic.
EDIT: To add something a bit funny - You also find that there's a switch for the power windows, but it does nothing. (a crack at the Stygian Keys)
"Hey, check ot our new model sports car, the Nightfall! It's got a V6, 200 horsepower, anti-lock brakes, power windows, locks and mirrors, all the best features."
You drive it home and find out there's no power windows. You call the company - no answer. You call a few more times - no answer. Finally, announced on the radio, "For all you who bought a 2006 Nightfall, we have amazing news! Coming soon, a free upgrade - Power Windows! Isn't that fantastic!? Just give us a couple of months and we'll hook ya right up!"
...yeah, fantastic.
EDIT: To add something a bit funny - You also find that there's a switch for the power windows, but it does nothing. (a crack at the Stygian Keys)
Tiny Biscuit
Gaile, the fact isn't "we never said that the elite mission will be in the game release". All players thought that the elite mission was in the game release, not in a future patch.
When you go to McDonalds and ask for a Big Mac Meal with Coke and the give you the Coke and said "The Big Mac ? Tomorrow, we never said that the Big Mac will be ready today"...
Sorry for my weird english I'm French...
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Sorry for my weird english I'm French...
Vaga
I find it funny how pretty much everyone who bought Nightfall expected there to be an elite mission, yet according to Gaile there is *somthing* wrong with them for thinking this. Obviously if 99% of the people who bought Nightfall thought there would be an elite mission in the game there was somthing wrong with Anet's advertising.
I don't even PvE and this thread has pissed me off, you can tell when Gaile is bsing so easily.
Loki - The reason no PvPers cared about that was because i was for the arenas, the maps hold practically no strategical value and the new ones definently do not. I guarentee if it was the new guild halls there would be a larger thread than this.
I don't even PvE and this thread has pissed me off, you can tell when Gaile is bsing so easily.
Loki - The reason no PvPers cared about that was because i was for the arenas, the maps hold practically no strategical value and the new ones definently do not. I guarentee if it was the new guild halls there would be a larger thread than this.
Poki#3
Thank you for clearing that up. I just hope the Update will will come ass soon as it's finished, and that it will be finished soon :P
Especially the last Sunspear/Lightbringer rank, since I'm kind of a Title wh0re XD
Especially the last Sunspear/Lightbringer rank, since I'm kind of a Title wh0re XD
Big_Iron
I find this news very exciting. I don't care what anyone says. Anet is one of the most fan friendly gaming developers I've ever seen.
EDIT-> Gaile drops by to give us exciting news and there's tons of of negative comments. It's a wonder that she ever drops by at all anymore. No matter what Anet gives us, certain people are never happy.
EDIT-> Gaile drops by to give us exciting news and there's tons of of negative comments. It's a wonder that she ever drops by at all anymore. No matter what Anet gives us, certain people are never happy.
Guildmaster Cain
Hmm... I think you get the Elite Mission from the Goddess of Secrets in the Chantry of Secrets, that will only open after you complete the game. Use the search button to find my thread and pics about it.
Nanood
So many complaining people..
I guess i'll have my bitch too and say that i'm so angry that i ... um.. Oh i forgot i'm not angry at all since one mission doesn't make or break the game for me like it sounds like it does for so many posters here.. Happy to play it when it gets here.
gg anet.. am having so much fun once again and thanking god that the missus is understanding of my addiction
I guess i'll have my bitch too and say that i'm so angry that i ... um.. Oh i forgot i'm not angry at all since one mission doesn't make or break the game for me like it sounds like it does for so many posters here.. Happy to play it when it gets here.
gg anet.. am having so much fun once again and thanking god that the missus is understanding of my addiction
The Primeval King
Wahaha, I'm a rank 10 Sunspear.
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Is that really important though? It isn't like I go around thinking "Oh yeah, I'm better than that little r6 sunspear noob."
thanks Anet for the elite missions coming up. put sapphires and rubies in them
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Is that really important though? It isn't like I go around thinking "Oh yeah, I'm better than that little r6 sunspear noob."
thanks Anet for the elite missions coming up. put sapphires and rubies in them
Karlos
I am sorry Gaile, I have to say I categorically reject the notion that placing a title with no means to acquire is some sort of a challenge. It is a bug, a very obvious one too.
I also reject the notion that those who "found a way around it" were doing something clever that the rest of us dolts were unable to figure out. As soon as I figured out the silly bug, I stopped trying. Because even though I knew about the glitch, it was meaningless for me to delete my character after she had accumulated 6 maximum titles. It was also meaningless for me to start a character from scratch just to get THAT title on him. That is know as throwing your life away.
The only ones who were "clever" in this whole ordeal are those who did not power through the game and defeat it brilliantly, instead went through slowly so that they knew about the glitch before getting stuck in Castellan. Yeah, kudos to them.
Sorry, Gaile, but I find your attempt at painting this gross oversight as some sort of a challenge that we gamers failed to grasp very insulting.
I also reject the notion that those who "found a way around it" were doing something clever that the rest of us dolts were unable to figure out. As soon as I figured out the silly bug, I stopped trying. Because even though I knew about the glitch, it was meaningless for me to delete my character after she had accumulated 6 maximum titles. It was also meaningless for me to start a character from scratch just to get THAT title on him. That is know as throwing your life away.
The only ones who were "clever" in this whole ordeal are those who did not power through the game and defeat it brilliantly, instead went through slowly so that they knew about the glitch before getting stuck in Castellan. Yeah, kudos to them.
Sorry, Gaile, but I find your attempt at painting this gross oversight as some sort of a challenge that we gamers failed to grasp very insulting.
Zeph
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I wonder if gaile will comment on the drops in NF, be that chest and/or loot drops. They seem to be very very bad, is this a bug or "as designed". I know they are trying to kill off farming but NF seems really grim regarding earning money & getting good drops for your char & heros. I've still yet to see a single gold scythe from either a chest or dropped, and I've already completed the game with 1 char.
Considering they want to stop ebay gold selling, they seem to be playing right into the hands of those selling it. Already, after just a 2 weeks of NF I have heard a lot of people talking about having to go and buy ebay gold because they need armour or insignias or runes or weapons for heros etc etc and can't earn enough gold for half of these things by just playing through the game.
Coverticus
Considering the game has only been out for a week and a bit, it's quite amusing to see the level of unhappiness being displayed by some (no critisism intended btw). Yes, we can't get to the top rank of LB/SS, which can be argued as a bug (and is somewhat irksome tbh). Yes we have no Elite mission at present but is forthcoming (Anet in general have missed a trick on this one though). Yes, there are a number of smaller issues in other areas.
But...
There is still enough in the game to keep 95% of the NF population happy. The release has to cater for all levels of players (as its not just aimed at the elite players) and I think the developers have done a very good job at this (far better than Factions ever was). But, as with any piece of software development, you will never ever get 100% of the features into the package for first release. Period. AreaNet, in my view, have made a top effort here but they have yet to finish certain areas off. Gaile can't tell us everything we wan't to hear as they may not know yet what has to be done (and it's not good PR informing the client base this). It also gives us something to wait for in the near future.
Also, be thankful this isn't being developed by MS
But...
There is still enough in the game to keep 95% of the NF population happy. The release has to cater for all levels of players (as its not just aimed at the elite players) and I think the developers have done a very good job at this (far better than Factions ever was). But, as with any piece of software development, you will never ever get 100% of the features into the package for first release. Period. AreaNet, in my view, have made a top effort here but they have yet to finish certain areas off. Gaile can't tell us everything we wan't to hear as they may not know yet what has to be done (and it's not good PR informing the client base this). It also gives us something to wait for in the near future.
Also, be thankful this isn't being developed by MS
Sha Noran
This is no offense to her, but her position allows her very little flexibility and therefore I tend to ignore her/take her comments with a grain of salt. How many people adore her in a fanboyish manner is puzzling to me, but that's beside the point.
I only wish to add that the Sunspear Title Track lock should simply be removed. It is easy to say now that those with it now have no unfair advantage, but if the higher tiers are needed to gain access to some later content (/cough) they will have the advantage when this content is added later. I will be forced, along with countless others who didn't want to trick around the cap/capped at 8 without knowing, to grind out a whole lot of Sunspear points while those others who already have the ranking delve directly into the new and exciting features. Since there is a way around the cap now anyway, it would really just be best to get rid of it all together. I cannot see anyone complaining that it was lifted.
I only wish to add that the Sunspear Title Track lock should simply be removed. It is easy to say now that those with it now have no unfair advantage, but if the higher tiers are needed to gain access to some later content (/cough) they will have the advantage when this content is added later. I will be forced, along with countless others who didn't want to trick around the cap/capped at 8 without knowing, to grind out a whole lot of Sunspear points while those others who already have the ranking delve directly into the new and exciting features. Since there is a way around the cap now anyway, it would really just be best to get rid of it all together. I cannot see anyone complaining that it was lifted.
Geckoo
I have an idea for the sunspear title that maybe is interesting...
Make a basis bounty for each zone and just raise or low it in fuction of the sunspear rank you have... so if in desolation they usually give you 7 points... make that with rank 7, they give you 7 points, but with rank 6, they give you 10 points and with rank 8 they give you 4 points.. apply this method to the hole game and you have a quite good bounty system and it's possible to reach the higher rank, just need much more work. And you are able also to add higher rank (r10, the perfect sunspear rez signet, sunspear legend) and you can only obtain it with a bounty of... 2 or 1 per each kill.
Make a basis bounty for each zone and just raise or low it in fuction of the sunspear rank you have... so if in desolation they usually give you 7 points... make that with rank 7, they give you 7 points, but with rank 6, they give you 10 points and with rank 8 they give you 4 points.. apply this method to the hole game and you have a quite good bounty system and it's possible to reach the higher rank, just need much more work. And you are able also to add higher rank (r10, the perfect sunspear rez signet, sunspear legend) and you can only obtain it with a bounty of... 2 or 1 per each kill.
DergeDraconis
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its not done .. nothing we can do .. i would rather wait then have them do a rush job on it.
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As I'm sure we're all disappointed that there currently is not elite missions, its best now that we let them take their time on it and get it right, since it's going to be "late" anyway. Hopefully it will require less patching than NF has so far.
Fender
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My point exactly. I reached Castellan just before moving on to Vabbi, without farming for points at all. I've just been playing: exploring the map, doing quests, capping all elites, and sometimes going back to areas I completed to help guildies along. This got me to Castellan without trying.
Now, I've played through Vabbi, without blessings, and will play through it again, capping the elites and probably again helping guildies, and at the end of it, I won't have scored a single promotion point. A few months from now, when there's absolutely nothing more to do in Kourna and Vabbi for my main (title collecting) character, I'll have to go back and grind for 7,000 points. Doesn't feel right to me. |
WasAGuest
As a different point of view, I see the forth coming Elite Missions and eventual addition of "working" expanding ranks (I do not consider things the players must work around to be working*) as a interesting move on Anet's behalf.
Factions was dead within weeks of it's release for many as they had seen and done about everything there was to do. These players then took their newly made Factions characters back to Tyria and played through that campaign.
Releasing the "end game content" later, months down the line will bring back players when it's released, and keep other players moving slowly through the camaign time to get there. Pretty smart move IMO.
My only wish, is that ANet would finally add in with the changes the ability to change looks, rangers finally getting a quiver so they can stop pulling arrows out of their... reconnects and an auction house. If these are finally coming in that update, I'll finally be semi content (AI must be fixed as well).
Any way you can tell us what is "planned" Gaile. Before listing, please add something like "planned additions - but not guarenteed to make it" so that nitwits don't take what you say as gospel and promises.
Factions was dead within weeks of it's release for many as they had seen and done about everything there was to do. These players then took their newly made Factions characters back to Tyria and played through that campaign.
Releasing the "end game content" later, months down the line will bring back players when it's released, and keep other players moving slowly through the camaign time to get there. Pretty smart move IMO.
My only wish, is that ANet would finally add in with the changes the ability to change looks, rangers finally getting a quiver so they can stop pulling arrows out of their... reconnects and an auction house. If these are finally coming in that update, I'll finally be semi content (AI must be fixed as well).
Any way you can tell us what is "planned" Gaile. Before listing, please add something like "planned additions - but not guarenteed to make it" so that nitwits don't take what you say as gospel and promises.
Thargor
Thanks for the info Gaile!
It is great news that the title will be attainable and that the elite mission will be added. I could personally care less if I have to wait a few months or not, its not like that tile does anything for you right now anyways!
There are plenty of other things to work on like getting my other 7 characters thru the game, working on lightbringer title, cap elites, get the dervish and paragon thru prophecies and factions, etc...
I can't say I am surprised that there are many people crying about it not being in the release.
This whole "lets ask gaile for some info and then when she gives it to us lets beat her up about it cause anet isnt running their bussiness just to please me" crap is really old.
Honestly people, it is not Gaile's job to add the content, design the content, or even what info to release about the content. How about lets stop treating her like its all her fault and just be happy that she posts here with the info that WE ASKED FOR.
Thanks again Gaile!
It is great news that the title will be attainable and that the elite mission will be added. I could personally care less if I have to wait a few months or not, its not like that tile does anything for you right now anyways!
There are plenty of other things to work on like getting my other 7 characters thru the game, working on lightbringer title, cap elites, get the dervish and paragon thru prophecies and factions, etc...
I can't say I am surprised that there are many people crying about it not being in the release.
This whole "lets ask gaile for some info and then when she gives it to us lets beat her up about it cause anet isnt running their bussiness just to please me" crap is really old.
Honestly people, it is not Gaile's job to add the content, design the content, or even what info to release about the content. How about lets stop treating her like its all her fault and just be happy that she posts here with the info that WE ASKED FOR.
Thanks again Gaile!
Effendi Westland
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Originally Posted by WasAGuest
Releasing the "end game content" later, months down the line will bring back players when it's released, and keep other players moving slowly through the camaign time to get there. Pretty smart move IMO.
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Besides when they eventually do put it in, it is bound to be limited to rank 10 sunspears only or something, and current chars cannot (without a lot of work and knowing prior how) achieve ranks beyond rank 8. So your completed toon with whom you'd like to do the elite mission with will need to farm for xx hours to get there, something you cannot prepare for.
But truth be told these are minor issues. I'm enjoying NF alot.
Desires
I think the reason for the annoyed people including myself is that Anet is being so kind to give us a "Free Update". Its one thing to put something in the manual that will be ready in "months" I'm sorry if you include it in the game manual then its not a "free update" its part of the product.
This is what likely happened:
They had the game manual boxs ect.(and probably the prima guide that got axed) in my guess is september maby earlier who knows. Anyways it only became apparant very close to realease date that the elite mission wouldn't be done.
My best guess is they underestimated how long NF would take cause lets be honest compared to factions its like N64->Gamecube(not graphic wise though they did get a boost too) In all likely hood they had to put more things like raz and elite mission on the backburner to focus on the more core system bugs and even jsut missions ect. I mean lately I've started exploring the torment realem while farming LB points and must say theres some nice stuff in there that many people haven't seen yet.
This is what likely happened:
They had the game manual boxs ect.(and probably the prima guide that got axed) in my guess is september maby earlier who knows. Anyways it only became apparant very close to realease date that the elite mission wouldn't be done.
My best guess is they underestimated how long NF would take cause lets be honest compared to factions its like N64->Gamecube(not graphic wise though they did get a boost too) In all likely hood they had to put more things like raz and elite mission on the backburner to focus on the more core system bugs and even jsut missions ect. I mean lately I've started exploring the torment realem while farming LB points and must say theres some nice stuff in there that many people haven't seen yet.
bblackmoor
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Originally Posted by The Great Al
I thank you again for your answer, however I feel almost as if this 'big update' is going to be something like...stuff that probably should have been included with the release of chapter 3, but is being held off so it can appear that we are getting a huge update. Well, either that, or the elite mission just wasn't done in time for NF.
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bblackmoor
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Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
No. You don't say something is going to be in a game, put it in the manual, and then don't have it in the game when the game releases. In the real world, with real products you would get a refund or some percentage of the sales price back.
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Kry Onicle
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Originally Posted by Karlos
I also reject the notion that those who "found a way around it" were doing something clever that the rest of us dolts were unable to figure out. As soon as I figured out the silly bug, I stopped trying. Because even though I knew about the glitch, it was meaningless for me to delete my character after she had accumulated 6 maximum titles. It was also meaningless for me to start a character from scratch just to get THAT title on him. That is know as throwing your life away.
The only ones who were "clever" in this whole ordeal are those who did not power through the game and defeat it brilliantly, instead went through slowly so that they knew about the glitch before getting stuck in Castellan. Yeah, kudos to them. |
Glad we'll be getting the elite mission eventually. Rather then spending more hours trying to find it, Ill actually take more chars in now
Clone
So, Anet's official stance is that the game was intended to be incomplete at release? Gaile, post all you want. Its somewhat amusing trying to see you spin this as a good decision.
Avatara
I think everyone should be reset to rank 8 ones the updates will be released. It's the same as having people keep their duped items because they where the lucky ones to find out how to dupe before it was fixed. You either give everyone access to rank 9 or no one.
JC68
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Originally Posted by Fender
Perfectly summed up. If I could still get points just normally playing the game now, I won't have to go back and farm these later. Why do title have to be grind? I'd probably be really close now if I wasn't locked by just playing the missions and doing quests.
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