Petition: Insignias available for Tyrian/Canthan armor

Aeon_Xin

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Me

/signed


I've decided to not buy any new GW chapters(only have proph n factions) untill they shape up. and equalize the playing field. They really opened up a can of worms with this not retrofitting the old chapters of the game...They're F'ing stubborn and need to be whipped a bit.


I would suggest a mass boycott, but you fiends would never stop long enough for anet to notice.

Bouddha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

/signed

Paid an expensive armor I can't modify, it's unacceptable!

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

I want new necro and monk armor, but paying 15k for looks with shitty stats, No, I don't think so.

/signed

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

Just give Armor Crafters that Craft Max armor have both the original armor AND blank copies of it.

/Signed(General Idea)

BrotherGilburt

arzamond

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Batavia

The Order of Baa [Baa]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution X
I want new necro and monk armor, but paying 15k for looks with shitty stats, No, I don't think so.

/signed
yeah!
and see what happen to price for material used for those 15k crap! worthless!!! compared to material used for nightfall's armor.... unbalanced economy!!!

fix it fix it fix it! give tyrian 15k armor flexibility stats.

Corinthian

Corinthian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

/unsigned

If you're dumb enough to buy FoW or 15k armor, it's your own damn fault it's not upgradeable. Or dumb enough to NOT buy Nightfall.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corinthian
/unsigned

If you're dumb enough to buy FoW or 15k armor, it's your own damn fault it's not upgradeable. Or dumb enough to NOT buy Nightfall.
So wanting expensive armor in the skin and stats we want makes us idiots ?

Edit to add: What about those that bought their expensive armor before Nightfall came out ?

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corinthian
/unsigned

If you're dumb enough to buy FoW or 15k armor, it's your own damn fault it's not upgradeable. Or dumb enough to NOT buy Nightfall.
thats a very closeminded attitude to have, surely making all the artworks available to be insignia'd as people want and giving more choice is a good thing?

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

/signed, its too expensive and it takes too much spaces to have all kinds of different armors. Tho with PvE requirements are usually not that stringent. having optimal sets would still be nice tho.

arzamond

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Batavia

The Order of Baa [Baa]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corinthian
/unsigned

If you're dumb enough to buy FoW or 15k armor, it's your own damn fault it's not upgradeable. Or dumb enough to NOT buy Nightfall.
u mean, those who provided fow and 15k armor is dumber, right? and those who said the buyer dumb is the dumbest, right?

GuildWiki Jamie

GuildWiki Jamie

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Heroes Of Primeval Eden

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corinthian
/unsigned

If you're dumb enough to buy FoW or 15k armor, it's your own damn fault it's not upgradeable. Or dumb enough to NOT buy Nightfall.
Unlike this fella here, I think adding insignias too other campaigns is a great idea, not only creating balance, but also giving collector's of armor something to look for. I know some die hard PvErs who would love for some of their suits to become useful in the battlefield.

Surely insignias at all rune traders should not simply be for convenience, sort it out ANet!

/already-signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

This can be done and is absolutely no rason not to do it.

Most probably next campaigns will use this new system, so old ones must be updated too. Not only armors, but inscriptions and new upgrades too.

They may do it like they did with the 'Xunlai Representative' adding it later to the other campaigns, but doing it is a must, no matter how much you think about it.

DemonSpawn

DemonSpawn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

RPV

Guards of the Gate [GRDS]

R/

/signed

I have 15k Pyromancer's on my Elementalist, 15k Druid's on my Ranger, and 15k Gladiator's and 15k (made a mistake with this one >_<) Platemail. Now I don't see how regular 1.5k Nightfall armor should at all be superior to the 15k armor which we worked extra-hard for. I mean sure, technically the 15k armor is the exact same thing as the 1.5k armor, stats-wise, but at the very least 15k armor should be just as good as 1.5k armor. I desperately want my 15k Druid's to be Insignia-compatible. :\

Chris Blackstar

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

United States

/not signed

Takes away from the unqueness of each chapter, not to mention that if you were going to do that, then all current armor sets would need to be change to inscribable, and all known weapons would need to be changed as well.

The only way it would work is to make sunspear armor avalable in other chapters.

Sentience

Sentience

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

I hate ppl who put stupid locations here

Jelly Toasts [jT], Team Love [kisu]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar
Takes away from the unqueness of each chapter
No it doesn't.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar
not to mention that if you were going to do that, then all current armor sets would need to be change to inscribable, and all known weapons would need to be changed as well.
Anet was able to remove those bugged axes that allowed you to upgrade them with two hilts, so clearly they have the capacity to change things on a grand scale.

Cthulu

Cthulu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

LaZY

W/

Quote:
/unsigned

If you're dumb enough to buy FoW or 15k armor, it's your own damn fault it's not upgradeable. Or dumb enough to NOT buy Nightfall.
What else are we supposed to do with the gold adding up in our storage boxes?

It makes us stupid for wanting good looking characters and not wanting to buy a bunch of accounts to hold gold? 15k armor gives you something to spend money on.. which in turn gives you a reason to play because you need money... i would have been done playing this game a long time ago if it werent for rare skin weapons and Ascended armor. I needed to play to get money and buy my armor and weapons.

/signed

I believe that it would open up some variety in the armor people wear. i believe some of the original 15k armor is the best looking. (male monks) I would like nothing more than to buy some platemale for my warrior and Studded Leather for my ranger and be able to mod them how i want.

FelixCarter

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corinthian
/unsigned

If you're dumb enough to buy FoW or 15k armor, it's your own damn fault it's not upgradeable. Or dumb enough to NOT buy Nightfall.
I bought my 15k Monk tats before Factions even came out. I also bought Factions and Nightfall. Why am I an idiot for wanting my 15k tats to be custmizable like my Elite Sunspear armor?

/Signed in blood

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar
/not signed

Takes away from the unqueness of each chapter,
How ?

Quote:
not to mention that if you were going to do that, then all current armor sets would need to be change to inscribable, and all known weapons would need to be changed as well.
ANET has changed existing items before, so they are able to do so again. Though in this case the script to do the changes will need to be a bit more complex (more variables to remember) and will take quite a bit longer to run due to there simply being way more armor sets to change.

Or ANET could simply modify the armor crafters to produce insignia armor (and the Canthan and Tyrian drop tables to make enemies drop insignias) and let people buy new armor or stick with their non-insignia armors. Just make a new item by coping the stats from a NF armor and the skin from elsewhere, then tell the armor crafter to produce it.

Based on ANETs history with changing pre-existing items, I'm expecting that we will see the crafters changed to produce insignia armor in one update, with the change to existing armors coming a few months down the track after ANET is finished making sure the script is bug free.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

And even in such a process at grand scale would be too much for servesr, they could always add an NPC that upgrades the items for during some months.

You talk to the NPC and any items in your inventory are updated.
People would be warned, so it would be your fault for not to enter the game for 6 months or so.

Ismoke

Ismoke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Fullerton, Ca.

CDXX/THE420TH.COM

Mo/Me

SIGNED!!!

My Fow monk armor needs insignia;s which he has had for 2 years!! and i have cantha and nightfall!

/signed

arzamond

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Batavia

The Order of Baa [Baa]

R/

someone already suggesting about 'armor insignier in elona'

here can be the concept:
the insignier will apply stats like radiant, survivor, blessing, etc for some price and materials. the price can be a fix price for example 1 platinum each part of armor, or vary depend on insignia current price.
as for materials, additional material when crafting obsidian armor can be used as refference. for example, elementalist battlemage's armor - robe part- need additional 15 deldrimor stee ingotl. and for leggings part need additional 10 deldrimor steel ingot.

Sha Cz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

/signed at least for Fissure and Elonian chapter owners

I don'T suppose ANet would do something for improving the game system. How many signs are needed to make them do something?

PGodden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Rt/

/signed
Dont wanna buy more warrior fow armor or monk

arzamond

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Batavia

The Order of Baa [Baa]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
You do realise this will probably be added anyway!

They updated the tyrian armor when factions was released, so there is no reason they wont get around to updating tyrian and canthan armor to fit in with Elonian gear.

Its only been about a month, give them a chance.
your post's date is 11-08-2006 and in fisrt page of this thread...
so actually it's more than 4 month...they update other things than this feature instead...

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

/signed fully and totally!

Neon Ciaren

Neon Ciaren

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ardent Adversary

A/

/Signed

It would be nice to change my FoW Armor sense back in prophecies I didn't have a choice of insignia's. Also people have a disadvantage in PvP, if they have a PvE Character there. If they see someonewith glads armor people know that the person doesn't have any special armor benefits and more energy benefits. It may not be that big but it is there.

Coran Ironclaw

Coran Ironclaw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Guardianes Del Honor

R/Mo

/signed

extremely annoying my fow now is really worse than a 1.5k sunspear armor.

Shmanka

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coran Ironclaw
/signed

extremely annoying my fow now is really worse than a 1.5k sunspear armor.
Agreed, yet I somewhat disagree. Primarily

/signed

I think that my "Gladiators" FoW is something special now that people will never invest the time to get anymore, along with my "Ascalon" helm. I just think that these items you can never get again. Somewhat making your character special compared to the new ones.

Shmanka

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coran Ironclaw
/signed

extremely annoying my fow now is really worse than a 1.5k sunspear armor.
Agreed, yet I somewhat disagree. Primarily

/signed

I think that my "Gladiators" FoW is something special now that people will never invest the time to get anymore, along with my "Ascalon" helm. I just think that these items you can never get again. Somewhat making your character special compared to the new ones.

Predator [CD]

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Damm, so much time passed and nothing from ANet...

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

When GW:EN comes, Guild Wrs would be finished, and the whole game should follow some standards.

Why?

Because not everyone buy the games in the same order, and when you have played Nightfall, playing Prophecies then is a pain.
At least making the 'system' in the game be the same (star mission by talking to NPC, all armor allow insignia, all equipable drops having a chance to be inscribed, challenges with rewards, etc...) would hep to make the 'feel' of the same game. A whole great game. And not some campaigns that you'll buy only to see the cinematics once, gather the skills, and then leave forever.