Petition: Insignias available for Tyrian/Canthan armor

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

get this, it should be done: if you own nightfall = you can get inscriptable weapons to drop in tyria and cantha.

if you own nightfall, at either endgame or at a npc in the chapter (anywhere) they can infuse the power of insignias onto your armor from maybe a quest or just cash, something to get you insignias on old armors.


READ MY POST PLA...

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Ok, I've tried sayin this before, and apparently most peope ignored me.

Did they make it so that I can get ANY of the Factions stats on Tyrian armour? (Gladiators, Necrotic, Star Patern...etc.) No.

So then why would they suddenly decide to make it so that you can get a Nightfall feature on Tyrian and Canthan armour?


Frankly, it's bad enough that you can get Factions armour stats for your Nighfall armour (Survivor, Blessed, Sentry's, Herald's, Sentinel's, Scout's, Disciple's...etc.). I can understand having Tyrian armour stats availible, since it's basically core.

The Muffen Man

The Muffen Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Druery Lane

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
Ok, I've tried sayin this before, and apparently most peope ignored me.

Did they make it so that I can get ANY of the Factions stats on Tyrian armour? (Gladiators, Necrotic, Star Patern...etc.) No.

So then why would they suddenly decide to make it so that you can get a Nightfall feature on Tyrian and Canthan armour?


Frankly, it's bad enough that you can get Factions armour stats for your Nighfall armour (Survivor, Blessed, Sentry's, Herald's, Sentinel's, Scout's, Disciple's...etc.). I can understand having Tyrian armour stats availible, since it's basically core.
Erm yes they did they reworked the tyrian armor stats to match the canthan ones.

Marco1983

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Netherlands, Geleen

W/E

This is one of the features that really needs to be added. I think it's a little unfair advantage that NF players can do these things, and the players of other chapters can't.


/signed

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

/notsigned

Nice idea, but Anet is never going to do it. I mean did they give tyria factions armor crafters after the second chapter came out? Likewise what if people want factions-type armor crafters and weapon smiths in nightfall?

I say keep insignias to NF where they belong.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Muffen Man
Erm yes they did they reworked the tyrian armor stats to match the canthan ones.
What game are you playing? The only changes that they made to Tyrian armour was with the release of Nightfall.

Metanoia

Metanoia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Actually, he's right. They did update the Tyrian armours just before* Factions was released. They removed the energy penalty from things like Judge's and upgraded Dragon, Wyvern and Platemail be up to par with Dreadnought.

*IIRC it took awhile for previously crafted armours to recieve the update. It finally came when they implimented that item-update macro to deal with things like Denravi items etc.

Arkhar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Guild Wars

W/

It should be noted that a NF only player would be very confused by the fact that FoW, which they have access to, is not only the most expensive but also the only suit for them that cannot be given insignia.

/signed with gusto

Lyphen

Lyphen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Please please please!

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

/signed

I've recently started a new Tyrian ranger to get the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title, but I'm not gonna keep her in pre-searing. The reason I signed this is because I wanna get 15k studded leather for her (best looking armour for ranger so far, in my opinion), but who really wants armour vs lightning damage? Okay, lightning damage can be quite powerful at times, but it's not terribly common, and I'm a ranger so most lightning attacks probably won't even be fired at me.

I can see why people want inscriptions exclusive to nightfall, and I say that if there were a change, then having a new NPC placed somewhere in the NF campaign, or even a new tab added to armour crafters only in Elona, would be the best. After all, inscriptions are part of Nightfall. If all armour was just modified throughout the two older campaigns, it would slightly devalue the new one (Only slightly. Nightfall is a great game. Much better than Factions).

BryanM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

I reiterate my support and desire of this.

It was mean that they changed my headpiece to +1 energy. A ridiculous default, it is.

Not going to blow a load of cash to re-buy character art across all my thugs that I already bought once.

RinLian

RinLian

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Florida

AA

I would like to put insignias on my 15k luxon armor... so yeh...

/signed

Sven788

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Die or Leave Plz

W/

I don't want another set of FOW

/signed

ShadowStorm

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

/signed

I just did a quick tally of the votes as of this post and I only counted posts that specifically had "/sign" "/signed" "/notsigned" "/agree" "/disagree" in them.

Votes For: 81

Votes Against: 13

C'mon Anet!! The people want this as a majority!! Do something so that I can have my Bloodstained Cultist 15K armor!!

Frozy

Frozy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Seems like most people who voted against it say it's because it should remain exclusive to Nightfall, but can we agree they should at least let us upgrade the foreign armor if we have Nightfall? (as suggested, put a special NPC in Kamadan)
That way, it remains exclusive to Nightfall, Anet Win.
We can now use any Art with any Function, We Win.
We all Win, so Anet, why not?
... Somebody please tell Gaile about this thread.

Predator [CD]

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

/signed

I think it will be good to place some NPC like "Armor Insignier" somewhere in Nightfall - in Kamadan or Chantry of Secrets (in this case player will need to buy Nightfall before he can upgrade his armor). It will be the best decision of the problem.

Veripare

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, Ontario

/signed

I don't find it fair that NF armour is more powerful then other armours. Then again life isn't fair ... but the Devs can make it fairer!

Nelis Bonecrusher

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Holland

The Afterlife Warriors

W/

15k dragonscale with radiant insignia for my ranger? i'm in!
/signed

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

/signed.

No way I'm paying another 75k + materials for more - personal armor.

I'm happy with my current armor with the exception of stats. I'd like the freedom to change often without having to buy a new armor set. I also hate having more than 2 full armor sets (10 slots - and that's vital with our little storage) for different builds.

I'd be happy being able to use one set of armor, and being able to change insignias/runes at will.

sasukeUchiha

sasukeUchiha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

New Zealand

Da Nine Missing Nin of Akatsuki [llll]

W/E

There are different types of armor with different insignias already on them...I don't think they will make an NPC to "strip" the insignia off. They should make one you try and apply take over the stock insignia.

/signed ...on getting new insignias on old armor, not on stripping npc tho.

Elnai

Elnai

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Top Rating Loss Guild 5/25

Maybe.. I don't really know.

R/

/Signed....I want to be able to trap in my amazing looking 15k drakescale...

arzamond

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Batavia

The Order of Baa [Baa]

R/

keep insignia for nightfall only, that's nightfall feature.

for canthan's and tyrian's, better use method like obsidian armor : u can modify it with materials in specific place (fow forge for example). that way, all armor are flexible, especially tyrian's.

how about that?

MagicWarrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

/signed

I really like the way some of my armour sets look in the non-Nightfall campaigns... and would be cool if could make them as flexible as Nightfall.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

After what happened to me with the 15K Kurzick Guise (accidentally getting the wrong one) ....

... definitely /signed

Zavulon Shadow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Russia, Moscow

Professional Farmers [PvE]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator [CD]
/signed

I think it will be good to place some NPC like "Armor Insignier" somewhere in Nightfall - in Kamadan or Chantry of Secrets (in this case player will need to buy Nightfall before he can upgrade his armor). It will be the best decision of the problem.
Agreed.
/signed

P.S. Русское комьюнити поддерживает петицию. ФОВ-армор с инсигниями маст хэв для всех!

Wulfgast

Wulfgast

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Louisville, KY, US

Rite of Passage [RP]

W/Rt

/signed

I think consistency is the key here. Some changes that NF brought about should be NF specific, but others (such as this) should've been global.

Aya Neji

Aya Neji

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

Omg Noobs

E/

/signed

I don't like FoW and NF armor for my chars..

master_of_shadows

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Civil Disorder[CD]

N/Me

/signed.

Without insignias/inscriptions almost no sense to explore/farm/play in Cantha and Tyria. So this lead to dead continents .

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

/not signed. They are unique to Nightfall and I'll keep it that way.

omens

omens

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

After getting my monk fow while it was just chap 1, and then new and better armour mods coming out, and also the best monk armours in factions I would love for you to be able to get insignias on all armours.

/signed

Priest Of Sin

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

although I'm sure i've already said /signed on a previous page, I can't help but wonder WHY anet didn't do this.

Is it too difficult to modify existing armor sets? I am not familiar with the system they use, but I would like a definite answer. Like, is there a coding issue? Or would it just cost too much money (paying the programmers) to redo all the armor? Or is it something as sadistic as "We want you to buy Nightfall to inscribe armor." Personally, i cannot STAND monk, ele, or Ritualist armor in Nightfall, why am I stuck with obsolete sets?

Predator [CD]

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by KANE OG
/not signed. They are unique to Nightfall and I'll keep it that way.
Ok man... Say me please, I have FoW armor on my ele, I farm on it during about 3 months, I didn't buy money for it (we all know what really many people bought money), and after Nightfall was released people who craft FoW after this can craft easy-upgradable with insignias FoW armor. But I can't using insignias with my "old" FoW armor. So, if I want "insigniable" FoW, I need to farm about 1.5-2 mil. gold again? Do you think it's ok??! Do you think it's right??!

Yes I can agree what (maybe) insignias should be "Nightfall feature", also I really think what it's easy to re-craft 15k armor BUT try to re-craft FoW armor! It takes really much time and forces. Btw, FoW is core armor set, so it will be absolutelly right to make ability to upgrade all exists FoW armor to "insigniable" versions, of course if player has Nightfall.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.

WBR.

Cynicus

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

I like my 15 k Hydromancer armor skin
/signed

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

I think that being able to mod existing crafted armor stat-wise (in Kamadan/Sunspear Sanctuary) is a better idea. It still gives reason for people to buy nightfall, which I think is probably the main reason why they didn't make it retroactive.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

/signed
/signed
/signed

gosh darnit /signed.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

/signed

- There are some armor skins, like mesmer enchanters armor, which currently is only usable if you want the stats that come with it. With insignias you would be able to craft it with whatever stats you want.

- Headgear from nightfall takes insignias but I don't think other armors do. This puts players with non-nightfall at a disadvantage as they can't get the same stats. Though if it turns out that other headgears can take insignias then this point is moot, but it also means that some non-NF armor already takes them.

- As I understand it people without nightfall still see all the insignias listed in the rune trader, despite being completely unable to use any of them. I imagine that this would be annoying for them.

- While having all armors using insignias would increase demand for them, it should also include ANET making altering the current drop tables so that insignias drop in Tyria and Cantha. So this isn't an issue, and it might even decrease their value as people who farm outside of Elona will also get ones they don't plan to use.

- Currently the armor crafters in Cantha have to list all the various stats for the armor they carry, making a long list, meaning its easier to click on the wrong one. If they are switched over to insignias it means they only list 1 piece for each part of the body, and one headgear for each attribute.

partyzan fedor

partyzan fedor

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

Russia

OMG Noobs [OMG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator [CD]
/signed

I think it will be good to place some NPC like "Armor Insignier" somewhere in Nightfall - in Kamadan or Chantry of Secrets (in this case player will need to buy Nightfall before he can upgrade his armor). It will be the best decision of the problem.
Agree this idea.

/signed

PS: I like Prophecies armor art's.

wormda

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ukraine, Kiev

Professional Farmers[PvE]

Mo/

I like Canthian weapons most of all platinum sword ...question? "why i cant get a sword and put inscription what i like"
/signed

arzamond

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Batavia

The Order of Baa [Baa]

R/

/signed but not with insignia (nightfall feature!). better use less material to re-craft but not as expensive as creating a new one.

white lait

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Russia

Black Jokers Company[joke]

Mo/A

Rawr! tons of times i told to all about this.....>.<
/signed