[Dev Poll] Guild Wars Titles - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

DeXyre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

06 Feb 2007 at 09:31 - 402

I'd rather have a profession related skill title

(like when you have all elementalist skills on a char you can be Master of the Elements, if you also happen to have the dervish skills on that char Master of the Scythe, or something like that)
Personally I'll never go for skill hunter the way it is, because I'd rather have skills I can actually use on my chars in stead of mostly useless skills.... (except for heroes, but that also works when you split your skills over different characters...)
Account based title for skills does sound bad because you'd have lvl 1 skill hunters running around

The Silver Star

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK, Scotland

Il Guild Name Il

W/

06 Feb 2007 at 12:32 - 403

I agree there should be campaign specific but no title for all Campaigns Elites, and i also think they should remove KoBD and PKM, not only would this stop people bosting eg "stfu u noob i have KoBD" (btw i have this title but dont show as i am against it) It would also stop the whiners saying "omg it cheapens KoBD and PKM i want to cry QQ" It would also give people less reason to grind and buy new campings jsut to max out a title.

Dragou Du Porzan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Mo/

06 Feb 2007 at 16:59 - 404

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Silver Star

It would also give people less reason to grind and buy new campings jsut to max out a title.

And that's exactly why there's no chance of KoaBD being removed. Anet understands that obsessive-compulsiveness sells units. It's the same reason why they're in no rush to implement changes to the elite title system. The current design of the elite skill title encourages O-C types (and I'll include myself in this category) to purchase every chapter. Change the system and you run the risk of some of your player base saying, "I've earned enough titles... no need to purchase that next chapter." Leave it how it is and you've got them constantly chasing after the dangling carrot that can't be reached. From a business standpoint, it makes perfect sense. From a player standpoint, it's frustrating.

I'm sure eventually there will be a change of some sort to the elite title system. My advice for now, however, would be, "Don't hold your breath."

Blackdiamondmali

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

07 Feb 2007 at 03:34 - 405

I am currently almost 1 title away from the title peopel know me. If i spend 2 hours i would be 1 title away most likely. I enjoy title hunting and i wouldnt mind skill hunting titles for the 3 different campains but i think it would be very easy that way. Maybe if you made it a bit toupher it would be better. Also most importantly is that it is pointless to get anything beyond kind of a bid deal till People Know Me. Right know i got 8 max titles very close to 9 but i have no motication to get number 9 till i have the means to get number 10. If you could put a number at the end of the title on the kind of a big deal title track for every max title you have sort of like the rank title how you get a new number and name after each level you go up. Than the kind of a big deal title track would be alot funner and more competitive. I not saying you need a new name for every title you get every 5 is fine. But the number following the title name should reflect how many maxe titles you have.

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

07 Feb 2007 at 03:52 - 406

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Silver Star

I agree there should be campaign specific but no title for all Campaigns Elites, and i also think they should remove KoBD and PKM, not only would this stop people bosting eg "stfu u noob i have KoBD" (btw i have this title but dont show as i am against it) It would also stop the whiners saying "omg it cheapens KoBD and PKM i want to cry QQ" It would also give people less reason to grind and buy new campings jsut to max out a title.

Oh please, I've had lots of people try to throw, say, rank in my face, but I've never had anyone throw KoaBD in my face.

Vigorator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Noob University [GeD]

R/

07 Feb 2007 at 05:37 - 407

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dashface

I have 191 elite skills, and decentralising the title would be colossally disappointing to me. (Well, maybe not colossally, but people on forums are obligated to over-dramatise.) I would prefer seeing the current Skill Hunter title renamed to International Skill Hunter, perhaps making the first level higher than the total number of elites on any one continent.

Additional titles do not concern me, but decentralising Skill Hunter would seem to me to be a step in the wrong direction. If people are so desperate to max out titles, why not allow temporary maxing out? As long as someone had the maximum available at that time, give them one point towards Kind Of A Big Deal.

i agree with this as i currently have 218 elites. i would rather have something like keep the current skill hunter title track but also add the campaign specific ones for the people who only have 1 or 2 campaigns. The international one would be fine, but as long as i have the opportunity to flaunt that i have all of the elites capped (when i finish) otherwise if i had to pick a campaign to display all the work i have put in would seen like kind of a waste, because like i said i couldn't then flaunt the fact that i have hundreds of elites capped.

anyway thats just my 2 cents on it

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

07 Feb 2007 at 06:54 - 408

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

This strongly suggests a CH4 is definite.

Of course it's definite. We just don't know anything about it yet.

Mylon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

07 Feb 2007 at 17:35 - 409

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimm

Of course it's definite. We just don't know anything about it yet.

One of the classes will probably be a summoner. That's why all of the skills made to affect spirits have been changed to "summoned" creatures.

LordVylcan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Hard Nips In Syberia [poke]

Rt/N

11 Feb 2007 at 22:14 - 410

i dunno i kind of like like the idea and at teh same time dont about teh skill title.i dont mind capping all those skills but by the third campaign i think we should have had teh chance to reach maxed out title. but the international title sounds cool

Comorv

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

The Ivy League

E/

14 Feb 2007 at 07:31 - 411

Last 2 weeks a friend of mine & I set out to cap ALL the skills in the game... we did'nt know that the skill hunter title couldn't be maxed out... you can imagine how mad we were when we got the last skill & notice that we had to capture another 90 skills to "max" it, now we know that it cant be maxed.

i personally think that its really bad that you cant max out a title..., that u get no benefit from maxing it... & that you have to capture (in this case) 90 more skills that arent even released!... so now we have to settle for havin 291 elite skills on our count & we have to wait until ANet delivers the next expansion to get the other 90, just so that we cant max the title again...

Am completly in favor of separate titles & a benefit for gettin any title in the game, such as the benefit for getting LB title, which actually is the only one that "gives" something back to the players who have it.

legendel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK

League of Friends (LOF)

R/

14 Feb 2007 at 16:50 - 412

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comorv

Am completly in favor of separate titles & a benefit for gettin any title in the game, such as the benefit for getting LB title, which actually is the only one that "gives" something back to the players who have it.

you forgot that the treasure hunter and wisdom titles give you better salvaging odds (ie not destroying the item) and i think the pvp ones let you gather more balthazar faction, but thats only a "think" not a definate

Tay Zendreth

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Legion of the Black Phoenix [LBPx]

E/Mo

14 Feb 2007 at 20:54 - 413

Like many of the others here I spent a fair amount of time to get to 291 elites without realising it wouldnt be maxed. I do feel that anyone who achieves the maximum possible should be rewarded with it counting towards the max title tracks ( KOABD or PKM )

I would however like to see the number after those titles indicating how many maxed titles you have, so rather than KOABD 1 and PKM being 2, you would have KOABD going from 5-9 and the PKM starting at 10

Dont know about anyone else with KOABD, but i feel that someone who has worked hard to achieve 9 maxed titles should be recognised for that fact,not just having the same title as someone who only has 5 maxed titles.

I am quite happy however for the skill title and also international titles for Cartography and Protector to only be max level until the next chapter comes out. I make no apology for the fact that I hunt titles - I made the decision very early on that I was going to focus all my efforts on one character and try and complete absolutely everything with him. That was my choice and the titles are the reward for doing so.

Anyway A-net, lets make it happen

Vastrae

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

Brovian Knights

Mo/Me

15 Feb 2007 at 20:51 - 414

I am in favor of spliting the title into campaign specific ones.
I also like the idea of another title to recognize those that have completed them across all campaigns.
For those who think it devalues Koabd, perhaps they should be more concerned with titles that are easily purchased by ebayers devaluing it rather than more titles for which you actually have to work. I love working towards max titles and it's the ones people don't earn that bother me.

Corran Horn

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Alliance of Xen

R/Me

15 Feb 2007 at 21:35 - 415

Isn't this thread dead yet?

snabelfisken

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/

15 Feb 2007 at 22:35 - 416

I vote "I favor removing the existing Skill Hunter title and replacing it with 3 campaign-specific titles."

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

15 Feb 2007 at 23:39 - 417

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corran Horn

Isn't this thread dead yet?

Dead? It's only 3 months old!

HEY, WAIT A MINUTE!!!! This thread is THREE MONTHS OLD!!!

Why hasn't the proposed change (or any change) to the Skill hunter title track been implemented?

Gaile Gray, you asked us if we wanted it. The answer is "YES" by a landslide (It has been obvious since the first week of the poll.). I'm Guessing that it's an important issue, since you actually started a poll to discuss it. What I don't understand is that, as an important issue, it didn't get changed. But we can now have mini-pets in town - something that I've never seen a poll about.

Corran Horn

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Alliance of Xen

R/Me

16 Feb 2007 at 00:25 - 418

Well, as far as I know Gaile said that the did decide to implement this. If I recall it is supposed to be changed some time this month. Does anyone remember where she said this? Or am I wrong?

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

16 Feb 2007 at 00:39 - 419

Lol, why did Gaile even give this big suggestion and poll to us if the Devs still haven't done something that could take no more than a couple hours to do?

Its been 3 months...and no news..although I'm not really complaining much...

Across The Battle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Jersey

W/

16 Feb 2007 at 00:55 - 420

I asked gaile about this specifically the other day in kamadan. Shes aware that it hasnt been done yet and doesn't know why or when it will be done.

:-\

Acosian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/Mo

16 Feb 2007 at 21:53 - 421

Yeah in agreement that the skills hsould be campaign specific as otherwise it isnt a relevant title...like many i am a title seeker and to reach KOABD was great, but then reviewing my options to get up to the next stage either required a lot of grinding to gather golds and money for keys etc all which didnt really contribute to overall gameplay.

Gws has always been good at making ordinary things more fun so someone seeking grandmaster carto can gather lb points, and elite skills caps along the way.

The skills must have a limit and i think its perfect that each campaign has a specific maximum that can help towards maxed out titles. On top of this consider the leg work put into mastering all missions or mapping the entire area, surely skill hunting is just as worthy of a campoaign title due to the wide varying locations, added to the cost of sigs of cap and more importantly the skill points which seem to take forever to go up :-)

Anyway i hope this is implemented soon, been stacking up on elite skills for ages now and finally reached max for two of the campaigns but is sad that i require a hypothetical 180 more skills to reach the current maxed out award.

Gr8 forum Gaile lets just get this impleemented and movved along :-))))

Acosian

mesa

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

vaders first

E/Mo

18 Feb 2007 at 11:24 - 422

I vote against it because I think it is a bad suggestion. I think it is good that there is a pve title that is not campaign specific, like most title is and move across all of the campaigns. Also people that have all ready gotten the title would lose.

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

18 Feb 2007 at 15:13 - 423

Quote:

Originally Posted by mesa

I vote against it because I think it is a bad suggestion.

I hope you don't think you can get a PHD with that kind of reasoning.

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

18 Feb 2007 at 15:39 - 424

I think.... Gaile just opened this thread to keep people happy and assuming there would actually be a solution coming. When in reality... they're not doing anything. How long since this thread was started? 2 months? And not a single scrap of evidence has been seen that they're actually working on it.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

18 Feb 2007 at 15:43 - 425

Quote:

Originally Posted by mesa

I vote against it because I think it is a bad suggestion. I think it is good that there is a pve title that is not campaign specific, like most title is and move across all of the campaigns. Also people that have all ready gotten the title would lose.

Here's the problem - Nobody has the title! Nobody can GET the title! To max it out, you need 380 elite skills captured. Currently, there are only 291 elite skills in the 3 chapters. Presumably, when chapter 4 comes out the requirement will go up again, like it did with the release of Nightfall.

MarcinJ13

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

20 Feb 2007 at 17:02 - 426

Well I'm kind of disapointed. Getting some of the titles was very hard task (Anyone with all three GMC knows what I talk about).

I maxed 7 titles so far and I'm getting close to have Lightbringer as well.

However there are titles I've been working on and it seems that I'm in Limbo.

Following list shows what I'm dissapointed with:
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1) Lucky/Unlucky -> I kind of expected to have some 9 ring fun during Canthan New Year. Instead there was guy with pig-catapult.

2) Sunspear -> There are people who managed to get next level due to some exploit. It was nerfed. While Anet promised some solution, semi-honest players have no way to achieve it yet.

3) Skill Hunter -> I have all elites. It was hard to get, but It is done. And still no Max level.

4) Uneven titles. -> Imagine Wisdom title. By average unidentified gold takes you back 600gp+10 mins of chest run OR 3k at local market. So in order to reach max level (10,000) you have to either spend 70 days of constant run + 6 mil gp ... OR .. 30 MIL buing from other players. So at least it is hard to get. On the other hand new SWEET TOOTH title cost you 2mil (probably bought on e-bay) and 15 minutes of doubleclicking. Adding titles like this, while it might be gold sink, it REALLY CHAPENS OTHER TITLES.

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This topic has been started month(s) ago. Is there any progress on changes to titles ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

20 Feb 2007 at 17:11 - 427

No announce from the Devs so far. It may've just very well been a poll to see what we thought.

As to the Sunspear thing, that was pretty nasty. Gaile encouraged other ways to get it (please verify this some, saw it in a thread awhile ago, can't remember it) and now they're removing it from people. Ouchies.

The Sweet Tooth title is hilarious. They should have at least made it like the Drunk title, where you had to use up the amounts. Otherwise it literally is just double-clicking-ftw.

And how were we to boost up the Lucky/Unlucky titles? Were there any other games to reach toward them?

Rene Saliere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

New Zealand

20 Feb 2007 at 19:04 - 428

I have two questions about titles I'd love to have made clear.

1) Can we have clear information on how to gain the maximum rank in Sunspear and Lightbringer ranks without having the Bounties capped as a rude surprise?

2) We want to know whether or not a Protector Title will count as the maximum level of the respective Protector Title Track with regard to Kind Of A Big Deal. Not the Guardian Mission Track. The Protector Title Track.

Thanks!

PS: Yes to Skill Hunter change. Yes to new, separate Guardian Title Track. No, No, No to 'unmaxing' Protector Title Track.

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

22 Feb 2007 at 09:27 - 429

Yes to Skill Hunter change

Yes to new, separate Guardian Title Track.

No to 'unmaxing' Protector Title Track.

Yes to allowing the "international titles" to count as well.

Hell Raiser

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

Mo/

22 Feb 2007 at 10:06 - 430

I think it is sad to see people with KoaBD/PKM don't think other people should get to have Skill Hunter Titles to count towards KoaBd 'cause you had to "work" (would hardly call it work, more like tons of free time and gold [wich imo is what alot of these titles are]) for them.

If you went to war and had a terrible experience, would you want people to be able to come back without a scratch or bad memory? I would say you would (or you are a terrible, terrible person). This thread was dead, I know that (has been for a month) but I never posted here, so I thought I would.

So /yes.

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

22 Feb 2007 at 11:13 - 431

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasamune

Note: A lot of people are voting in favor of this because they are myopic and don't see that even though they may be getting more titles as a result, so will everyone else and will just result in a bunch of KoaBD discriminators. "LF More for mission + bonus must have KoaBD or PKM"

I'm all for discriminating against people who do that.

kooomar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Pow Pow Pow [myau]

Mo/E

01 Mar 2007 at 07:22 - 432

It seems to me that it is possible that they are actually thinking about implementing this. Though, its not proof by ANY means whatsoever. If you notice, you can now seperate your skills list by profession, listing which are core, which are NF, Proph, and Canthan.

This is just my personal opinion, if anyone has any other ideas on this, please share them.

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

01 Mar 2007 at 19:05 - 433

I would vote yes for this title and any others with similar requirements. It only makes sense since the Cartogrophy and Protector Titles are separate for each campaign. I am also in favor of creating cross-campaign titles, so that those who have maxed those titles in each campaign can show off their achievement.

Someone also mentioned in an earlier post about cleaning up the title UI, which will be much needed at this point. A start to making it more orderly would be adding tabs to view campaign specific titles, account specific titles, and maxed titles. I don't necessarily need to see my progress for the cart or pro title for Factions while my character is in Tyria, nor do I for the progress on the special event titles like gamer or skillz until a special event weekend.

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

01 Mar 2007 at 19:13 - 434

I asked Gaile about it the ending night of the last festival thing with the games. She told me that it would be coming in the update with "Hard Mode" most likely, probably coming with that update is the way to get Sunspear points up as well. So probably another month or two.

NOTE that is most likely not a 100% yes it's coming with that update.

Here I got the log for you.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...darke/log2.jpg

It's near the middle where she says it.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

01 Mar 2007 at 19:20 - 435

Quote:

Originally Posted by garethporlest18

I asked Gaile about it the ending night of the last festival thing with the games. She told me that it would be coming in the update with "Hard Mode" most likely, probably coming with that update is the way to get Sunspear points up as well. So probably another month or two.

NOTE that is most likely not a 100% yes it's coming with that update.

Well at least the answer wasn't vague, unlike all of her other replies. We don't know when the hard mode is coming, though, so who knows.

Sandblasted Skin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

St. Paul, MN

Strength and Virtue Eternal [SaVe]

W/

01 Mar 2007 at 23:53 - 436

Some of us have worked (are working) on getting this title. To change it now would lessen the prestige of the title.

As it stands now I condsider this to be the one and only title I am proud of. It is also the only title that I am actually trying to get.

You can change it to add chapter specific elite skill titles, but do not take away my overall skill title (and no I have not maxed yet but am close).

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

02 Mar 2007 at 03:55 - 437

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandblasted Skin

Some of us have worked (are working) on getting this title. To change it now would lessen the prestige of the title.

As it stands now I condsider this to be the one and only title I am proud of. It is also the only title that I am actually trying to get.

You can change it to add chapter specific elite skill titles, but do not take away my overall skill title (and no I have not maxed yet but am close).

Quote:

For those who choose to pursue multiple regional titles--across all existing campaigns--we could add a snazzy "international" title, as well. For example, someone who had earned the titles Tyrian Skill Hunter, Canthan Skill Hunter, and Elonian Skill Hunter might also get the title International Skill Hunter. (As we introduce more campaigns, we'd introduce higher levels of the cross-campaign Skill Hunter title.)

Yes, you get to keep your current title it'll just be changed to "International Skill Hunter".

Ahab The Great

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

[hOmE] - Hawks of Montenegrian Empire

04 Mar 2007 at 14:35 - 438

I think the hardest title to get in this game at the mo is the Legendary Survivor title. You can't power level your way up there anymore, so it takes at least a good month of staying alive as you micromanage what missions and quests you're doing, and with what skills and tricks you'll stay alive. it is in my view harder than these skill capping titles. anyone can cap a skill, and only a few elites are imo v. hard to cap (eg Lingering Curse in NF and Sandstorm in NF).
I vote yes to this, even though i dont really have the skill hunter titles in very high regard personally.
As for titles being completely irrelevant and just a gold sink and time waster, well, if you're playing GW its arguable you're wasting your time already. WoW doesn't have titles, sure but in WoW to get somewhere you need to grind like a cow.
I'm Very Important is OK, but the fact that a) Sunspear is a no-way-out, b) Lightbringer currently takes around 4 months to max, c) Elona GMC is practically impossible unless you spend 12 months checking every little corner of the map and finally d) Wisdom/Treasure hunter maxed titles also take on average 4 months to achieve, I'd say these maxed titles titles are very hard to attain as it is imo.
There are still many things with the AI in the game that sincerely p1ss some people off (->me), like for example the fact that your char won't always obey your commands, when you click on the foe to attack for example, and will just stay stuck somewhere when there is another foe in front of him, even if he can move on to the one I'm targetting, and thus will die in 3 secs unless one has to hastily move him around and attack the foe, these kinds of boring glitches that make it that much harder to be a complete success in battle are more important imo than another batch of titles or not. Sure Sweet Tooth means nothing, and neither does Connoisseur of Confectionaries, but theyre fun in theyre own right.

Cheers

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

E/

04 Mar 2007 at 15:51 - 439

My main character has every elite in the 3 campaigns and displays the Elite skill hunter title because I think it's one of the few titles that actually shows time and effort. I don't think the title should be split into 3 for the continents, because I don't think there are enough elites in a single chapter to make that title special enough. I'm sure there will be those who disagree and I accept that this doesn't help those who only have one or two of the campaigns. However, that's why the title has a progression.

For those who have said that they didn't realise the elite skill hunter title couldn't be maxed....you might spot the trend below....

Treasure hunter title
1 - Treasure hunter
2 - ADEPT treasure hunter
3 - ADVANCED treasure hunter
4 - EXPERT treasure hunter
5 - ELITE treasure hunter
6 - MASTER treasure hunter
7 - GRANDMASTER treasure hunter

What we have so far for the Elite skill hunter title
1 - Skill hunter
2 - ADEPT skill hunter
3 - ADVANCED skill hunter
4 - EXPERT skill hunter
5 - ELITE skill hunter
6 - MASTER skill hunter
Chances are the title maxes at level 7 and it'll be called "Grandmaster skill hunter".

I could suggest that maybe the skill hunter title should contribute to the KOABD/PKM title if it's maxed for the campaigns available at the time (so with 3 titles currently available, elite skill hunter would contribute now, but wouldn't when the next chapter is released). Obviously it's what I'd want, as it would help me in the KOABD/PKM title, but then I started collecting skills knowing that the title couldn't be maxed at the time. I just thought it'd be more convenient to get skills while I was exploring for the cartographer title and doing quests/missions.

Zorglubb

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

04 Mar 2007 at 15:59 - 440

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahab The Great

I think the hardest title to get in this game at the mo is the Legendary Survivor title. You can't power level your way up there anymore

You still can. Only hero battles got nerfed, but it's very boring to get power-leveled.

Skill Hunter is not of extreme difficulty to get as NF and Factions Elites are all very easy to capture (only a couple of Prophecies skills present a challenge IMO, mostly because of the long trips), but along with protector it's one of the only "fun" titles (ie. not boring grind in the same place, killing or doing the same stuff repeatedly), and additionally it serves a game-related purpose (UAS).

Indomitable Survivor is easily achieved with quests and XP scrolls, and after that, if you go for skill hunter, you'll max the Survivor track long before you've maxed the skill hunter track.

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

04 Mar 2007 at 20:08 - 441

I vote for the division. It seem just fair towards those who don't own all campaigns and therefore is currently impossible to max out the skill hunter title. This might hurt my unfinished title but hey what's life without a challenge?