Recommended Update: Punish Rage Quitters In Ra

Why should I be punished by being forced to play with sandstom rangers and backfire paragons?

My time isn't there to play for the sake of it.

Ive been playing a new build on my monk to teach scrubs why ppl rage quit in RA. You require 105hp, preferably 55hp if you can, a vamp weapon, and erm, the following skill bar:

[skill]blood is power[/skill]

I hope that more people will then realise why rage quitting in RA is a good idea. I would urge other players that are voting no and fed up of whiners to do the same thing.

I have better things to do with my time than play with crappy builds that won't get me a glad point. Honestly, if you think there aren't ways to fake err7 by flipping off your surge protector, pulling out a cord, etc. then I just dunno. Even if those won't work, a 10 minute ban is not going to stop me quitting... then again, maybe I'll just minimize and read threads on forums and wait for my team to wipe. Sounds like a good idea.

hahaha, i love how so many ppls points on why quitting is ok, and we will find a way around it.....

But your flames are not welcome here, this is a simple discussion, not a place to post your "wonderful overly uber ideas on why you are god".....

Few favs lately are.... the BIP build.... so, you admit you rage quit, and are very proud of it, and want more ppl to support no punishment for rage quitting... by pissing them off and running a build that kills u 2 secs into battle..... im kinda confused there.....

And Gimme... ya, u keep flippen that surge protector on and off.... that is alot better then 5 min punishment for leaving first minute into battle....


OK GUYS BACK TO SUBJECT.... its not that you are waisting 3 hours while an assassin runs circles and you all chase... the topic is leaving at the very start of the match, maybe loosing 2 whole minutes of your oh so important and fast paced life to wait to see how the battle starts at least what is on the other team..... some of you really need to go back and read the OP "thats original post" for you 1337 ones who cant follow a simple subject as this is....

Check this out! You really wouldnt believe the amount of hilarity we got out of it ^^

Leavers suck, you get them in all parts of this game, and going into several matches and getting anythign from 1 to 3 leavers in your group so you never get any enjoyment is awful.
Sure folk have to leave, but they don't have to quit, they can just stand there and when the team fails then they will be sent back to the outpost.
sure there might be legitimate reasons, I have crashed myself, ona number of occasions, but I'd rather fall into getting punished for it than have to put up with hundreds of inconsiderate selfish ignoramuses, that ruin it for those of us want a fun game without searching for hours for a team.

This just doesn't apply to RA though I see it a lot in AB, and to a lesser extent in TA and HA

For all of you who think leaving RA or killing yourself is justifiable, go to TA. You can pick your team there. Now you have no excuse.

"Oh, but Kaida, I want to leave repeatedly until I get a good team in RA so I know I have the advantage!"

Too bad. They are random arenas for a reason. They are NOT pick-your-team-by-leaving-repeatedly arenas. Go to TA and stop taking from everyone elses gaming experience.

Bipping yourself to death in RA for your own ammusement is pretty sad. It's not even that funny.

But it does show why you shouldn't make leaving punishable >_>

Sorry but the conjure phantasm warrior who doesn't bring a res signet takes away a lot more from my gaming experience than the monk who leaves because there's too many monks on our team - that actually improves the experience

Then go to team arenas. They are there for a reason.

Stop been a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hypocrite. I'm pretty sure the arseholes who leave constantly till they get a good team causes alot more problems than that 1 noob or occasionally badly spread random team cause to you.

All of your reasons so far have been entirely about you, not a single thing to do with teh rest of RA putting up with this crap.

bhavv... if you find that sorta thing funny... i feel sorry for you.

When I play RA its because i don't want to/don't have the time to gather a TA team, but I do want some success - if my team is hopeless, i'm gonna want to move onto the next one. Why play if you are guarenteed to lose?

Obviously your failing to see the reason behind it. I didnt do it at first because I found it funny, although it had me in stitches when there were 2 of us doing it.

The Reasons were:

1) HA and GVG both suck for me. I used to Enjoy HA but right now all the imba crap is ruining it

2) HM destroyed PVE. I never did much PVE after finishing the game, and HM is pointless untill Anet balance and fix it. Im not complaining that its too hard, it is in fact very easy. The problem is purely the inability to H/H it, which for non puggers is annoying.

3) RA and TA are the only things I am playing atm, and I was fed up of whiners complaing about rage quitters so im set about making others realise why people leave. Sure, I'll admit that I rage quit in RA. I also get 3-5 glad points a day from doing so. I am not going to play in a monkless group, or a group with rubbish players, although recently, there are in fact a lot of good players in RA, and you dont have to rage anywhere near as much as you used to t9o get a good group.

It is actually easier to get glad points in RA, since there arent any organised guild groups to face. If you go into TA, chances are your glad point runs will be ruined by a etter guild group.

Also, if you dont like rage quitters, Why dont YOU go to TA and make a team where no noe will rage quit? Im pretty much sure that all the people against rage quitting are in fact the Mending wammos with ressurect, on W/Me with backfire, of W/E with firestorm, or Mo with Healing breeze, or E geo tanks etc etc.....

Exactly said. There is no point playing in a team that is incapable of winning 10 games. Its a complete waste of time, and is too frustrating to do. I suggest all the complainers find some proper builds to run, and then maybe people will stop leaving since you wont be casting mending anymore

/Signed. There should be a *light*punishment for ppl who leave during a match. They can leave without penalty after a win before they transfer to next arena, so the group gets a new random player assigned.

I also like a penalty for AFK-ing at Fort Aspenwood.

Not really, people probably wouldn't leave if other people would be less bad at the game.

The rest of RA wouldn't have to put up with this crap, if they weren't so bad.

You're boring me.

You know... you could always just not play the game if you enjoy nothing about it anymore..... that is an option.... instead of ruining other ppls good time, and possibly turning them off to the game...

3-5 points a day, sounds like you actually do have some time on your hands to play.... that would be 5 hours or more of RA everyday if my estimates are correct.....


Here is a few thoughts for all you uber 1337 players who are forced to suffer and deal with all of us nooblets who have no idea how to do anything more then healing breeze our warriors......

1. Since your so "Godly" in all that is GWish and shouldnt have to deal with us noobs..... HB is right around the corner, why not go setup your "ubbbbberness" team, set the up the way you want them, and have at it....

2. Why ruin other ppls game time for you? that is about my biggest question that not 1 person can answer with anything other then trash talk, name calling, or such. What makes your game time / playing time so much more valueable then any other players?

3. It is just a game, so why cry because "my team has no monk, whaaaa!".... I think some of you needed a few more hugs when you were a baby... and in RL do you just quit when you dont get your own way?




--Noob builds / noob player -- Teach others...
--Faster Points-- Sounds like someone needs to rely on those noob builds abit
--I dont have time to TA-- Then why RA rage quit? you got some time it seems
--I dont have a TA team-- Not our problem, ur uberness should find one
--I wet my panties-- It happens, especially when u blame everyone for ur faults

Like the OP I think that a punishment should only be implemented at the start, like their exampel the first minute, Some people quit before the match even starts, that should not be allowed, how anyone can know anothers skills before a match starts I don't know, However though I dislike quiting in the middle of the match I think it should be allowed, in one particualr match both teams diead apart from one player. One a dervish the other a ritualist, neithr could kill the other, and they were at it for well over 2 hours befire i went to bed. This was late at night and i was planning on stopping after we lost the match, so i stayied in and watched them slag each other and refuse to quit, I can understand people quiting there, and in a situation where its a long drawn out fight. Also when the builds are bad or team makeup is poor

They are good reason to want to quit, but there should be a penalty for those that simply do it in the first seconds of apearing on the map.

QFT, TA > HA when it comes to both skill and build diversity atm (that is except the high ranked guys that win without using lame stuff), tell that to all those Searing (F)lames spikebots ^^. But you can leave a crap team after the match right? in that way you only ruin a minute of time at worst.
Hmm, people who get glad points by farming noobs don't always deserve them imo (beside the point because they get them nonetheless). if TA/RA is all you play, get a better better guild group. And aNet should make something for TA to make it worth playing even without glad points, to draw people like you to TA. those districts are way too empty and TA = good and honest PvP.
And that should be changed imo, see pt. 2

Arena PvP needs something fresh, it's worth it, give TA a ladder aNet, plzthx
People like Bhavv sound a bit lame, but they have a few good points, its either glad points or nothing.

I dont get the QQ argument that you're ruining ppls enjoyment and game experience, its RA ur playin with random ppl how is that so enjoyable, and what so someone quits and now their teammate needs psychiatric help or something? they cant just zone back and go back and enter battle and 20 seconds? and the number of quitters from my exp is exagerated, when I RA only about 1/5 of teams with no monk have ragequitter/s. Also a lot of ppl dont quit if theres a rit or some crap like that

Stop this crap. Any time people say reasons of quitting RA, you keep saying "Then go to TA", then I can ask you back : If you want a non-quitter team, then go to TA and form a team, which you don't have random teammates. "TA is there for a reason", right ?
This is hilarious. Why the RED GO ENGINED GO ENGINE can't we leave if we know for sure we can't win, and HAVE TO stay there for other teams to kill instead of leaving. It isn't a waste of time, is it ? And how can you say "ruining other people good time" in those ones ? Besides that, never talk about "/resign" in RA because it seems no one ever uses it. I have ever seen any team resign in RA (both sides), and many times one in team resign and tell others to do, they still keep running around or wamo tanking and waste a lot of time.

Once again.... for the short bus riders.... RA = Random Arenas, not Random Number of Players on team.....

And since you mention it... if you want a certain team build, go to TA...

This isn't an argument about "balancing teams" or making sure that "each team is equal". Honestly, this shouldn't be an argument, this forum is here for ppl to share ideas on how all the rage quitters in RA can be fixed. Not for you to flame it up saying that if everyone ran your builds you would stay.

Keep this on track, and i too agree that there should be some other reward system to motivate ppl to play more TA, as in mentioned by other ppl....

But once again, this forum is here to discuss why ANet forces players in RA to deal with all the people quiting at the very start of the match... and if people would like to see some punishment for those who leave at the start. That is it, that is the topic, if you cannot stay on it then don't post, go make your own thread about whatever.....

This is an easy topic, not designed to be a gathering of trolls or to be flamed up.

Here’s the difference.

People like me, who are “QQing” about leavers, just like to hop into RA to play for a bit, and want to play for playing’s sake. Do you know of this concept? Anyway, we have accepted the “randomness.”

People who are “QQing” about lame builds, noob players, no monks, too many monks, no “guarantee” of winning, and then leaving … you have not accepted the randomness, unless it benefits you when there are lame builds on the opposite side for you to exploit. You are attempting to circumvent the nature of RA, by turning it into your personal TA. Only instead of taking the time to form the team you want, you keep pulling the lever on the slot machine, wasting even more time, waiting for the perfect match. And, making your (ex)teammates grumpy in the process.

See the difference now?

We can all see, that you wish to form a TA team in Random, in order to smash an RA team over the head in Random. I don’t know why some of you cannot see how lame that is.

I’ll reiterate, I wish they take the glad points rewards out of RA. RA is supposed to be casual, it’s supposed to be fun, it’s supposed to be random, it’s not supposed to be all business.

A small time penalty (5 mins or so) for one who leaves within the first minute of the match, is reasonable. It may be just the incentive to find out your crazy build, and your crazy team, actually works.

^ couldn't have said it better myself.

I do RA for glad points, but I also stay when my team looks bad. I mean, is 1 min really going to kill you. If after that 1 min its obvious that your team sucks or its gonna be 30 min of no killing then you can leave. Besides, I've won 10 consec with teams that looked really bad at first.

If a 10 min time limit would be implicated for all types of arena matches, they could never stretch into infinity.
But people should stay till the end.

I voted "yes" ...

But there are things that sound better than the word "punishment" on your suggestion.

I made a "detailed suggestion for RA timer" a while ago, where i tried to take into account all the "valid reasons" to leave matches.

I think my suggestion could use some support

/signed

People leaving RA teams at the start is a problem. It is selfish and spoils the fun of up to 7 other people. There is no justification for it.

To all of you people moaning about how we should shut up and just accept that people leave....i dont get it.. if you dont care, then dont post in a thread like this since it doesnt effect you... far too much hate goes on in this forum which swamps genuine concerns and good ideas.

What some of you forget is that RA is the first place new players learn about and can experience PVP.(and they need to win there to get further anyway) I have only been playing GW a few weeks and entering RA was a big experience and deal. Then i find out that so many people leave cause they are 'too good' for the rest of us or whatever reason they tell themselves its ok to leave... meh.. have some respect for others please.

What that sort of behaviour does is influence us new players to think that maybe we dont want to get further involved in PVP if that is the attitude displayed and promoted.

Thanks for the link - "detailed suggestion for RA timer" , Halbarad Wolfson. I have added my support to your good idea which i would like to see ANet implement.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3095214#post3095214

Locking this thread, and all the other "Fix Leavers" threads in Sardelac, for the time being. When the new system is revealed, we'll look at it, look at these threads, and see if they need reopened or not. Until then, let's all be patient and see what we get.